Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

I like MathBlade for town.

[DrippingGoofball]

MathBlade, you want to yeet Pooky?

[DrippingGoofball]

MathBlade, you want to yeet Pooky?

No. I am saying if Titus continues to push Pooky I will yeet her and likely be successful.

I will NEVER want to yeek Pooky.

Who do you want to yeet. I will vote there too.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Titus

*shrug*

[DrippingGoofball]

If you iso Prism this game. The title of the work "The agony and ecstasy of being in the zone." written by town Prism. Pops up before their first posts do.
That's it. That's my town case for town Prism. If you keep that in mind it fits. So the scum team is just going to have to night kill them I guess or they can live with that town albatross around their neck all game.

I agree that she's town.

[DrippingGoofball]

The entire fucking table has told you we don't care that you know who the masons are and your solution is to pound the table over the course of 70 posts going I'M A GENIUS AND IF YOU PUSH ME I'M GOING TO OUT THE MASONS

Playing with you is completely souldestroying, Titus as scum isn't voting you right now because she's forced to, it's because you are being so intentionally insufferable that it is literally free for her to do so.

She has a townie in her scumreads.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey Dunnstral

Of everyone here, you know best why I'm not feeling having reads and pushing them. It's very insulting being punished for being wrong.

Yeah. I am in *passive player mode* right now and a lot of this is ON YOU.

So, get outta of here with your shitty, scummy vote. You can't read me for diddly squat.

Speaking of players who can't read me for diddly squat, and whose VCA is so tragically wrong that it's sometimes considered yeet-worthy. Titus. Titus, your VCA blows chunks once again and you scumread me 80% of the time, and suspect me the remaining 20%. So, get outta here too with that rubbish. At least I have learned, the hard way, that your VCA being pure trash doesn't mean you're scum.

Prism. Remember that game where you did me a favor a couple of times? Hint hint I am town.

MathBlade got it right.

[DrippingGoofball]

Prism's post warmed my heart so much that it has inspired me to make an effort and read the game.

I was going to get around to it tonight, but what should have been a 10 minute phone call turned into an hour and a half, and I'm tired now.

[DrippingGoofball]

How I thought of it was that I thought it was odd that DGB went right to Mathblade as a rock entering the game and wondered why that might be

His tone is pretty obv town, why wouldn't I?

[DrippingGoofball]

Is there anything I should concentrate on with my read of the game? Anything I should look at in particular?

[DrippingGoofball]

I find mathBlade easy to read, yes.
I think Titus is town. A horrendous VCA she strongly believes in is probably a town tell for her.
What about Pooky?

[DrippingGoofball]

A horrendous VCA she strongly believes in is probably a town tell for her.

What's horrible about it? You seem intent to come in and criticize me (discredit if in a negative mood). Do you disagree with my conclusion on Battle Mage? It's even fueled with some in thread events.

I'm town-reading you for being wrong, so it's not, shall we say,

productive

discrediting from a scum perspective?

I'm town and your VCA has me down as solid scum. So, from my POV, your VCA cannot have any value. You as me if I would consider your conclusion that Battle Mage is scum. It would be absurd for me to agree that Battle Mage is scum based on the VCA.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think that post shows DGB's agenda. She doesn't care about sorting me, she cares about discrediting me.

Again, that's not true since I'm town-reading you for it. I may be discrediting your method and your conclusion, but I am crediting the process and the earnestness. The fact that I am town-reading you means I have cared enough to sort you already, so "She doesn't care about sorting me" is also wrong.

I say this affectionately, you do scumread me disproportionately to my probability of being scum in any given game. One day you'll find a way to calibrate your scumdar; there are other players that can read me correctly.

[DrippingGoofball]

My strongest town read is Prism. I hope someone doc-protects her.

[DrippingGoofball]

Prism (6):

sangres

, Tammy, Titus, Prism, Spiffeh, SirCakez
Lady Lambdadelta (3): PookyTheMagicalBear, Battle Mage, Bell

sangres

(1):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

Kitty Trauma Team

(1): MathBlade
Not voting (6): borkjerfkin,

Kitty Trauma Team

, Lady Lambdadelta,

mastina

, GreyICE, Dunnstral

Prism (1): Titus
Lady Lambdadelta (9): PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, Prism, Balttle Mage, Spiffeh, Tammy, SirCakez, Lady Lambdadelta,

sangres

sangres

(1):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

Kitty Trauma Team

(1): MathBlade
Not voting (5): borkjerfkin,

Kitty Trauma Team

,

mastina

, GreyICE, Dunnstral

Dunnstral (3): , SirCakez,

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Battle Mage
MathBlade (4): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Titus
Spiffeh (1): Dunnstral
PookyTheMagicalBear(1): MathBlade
Titus (2): GreyICE,

sangres

borkjerfkin (1): Spiffeh
Not voting (5): Tammy, borkjerfkin,

Kitty Trauma Team

,

mastina

, Prism

Dunnstral (4): , SirCakez,

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Battle Mage, Spiffeh
MathBlade (5): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Titus, Dunnstral
PookyTheMagicalBear(1): MathBlade
Titus (2): GreyICE,

sangres

Not voting (5): Tammy, borkjerfkin,

Kitty Trauma Team

,

mastina

, Prism

Dunnstral (3):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Battle Mage, Spiffeh
MathBlade (5): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Titus, Dunnstral
Titus (2): GreyICE,

sangres

SirCakez (2):

mastina

,

Kitty Trauma Team

Prism (1): MathBlade
PookyTheMagicalBear (1): SirCakez
Not voting (3): Tammy, borkjerfkin, Prism

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (6): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Titus, Battle Mage, GreyICE
Titus (1):

sangres

SirCakez (3):

mastina

,

Kitty Trauma Team

, Dunnstral
PookyTheMagicalBear (1): SirCakez

mastina

(1): MathBlade
Not voting (3): Tammy, borkjerfkin, Prism

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (5): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Battle Mage, GreyICE
Titus (4):

sangres

, Prism, SirCakez, MathBlade
SirCakez (4):

mastina

,

Kitty Trauma Team

, Dunnstral, Titus
Not voting (2): Tammy, borkjerfkin

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (5): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Battle Mage, GreyICE
Titus (5):

sangres

, SirCakez, MathBlade,

Kitty Trauma Team

, borkjerfkin
SirCakez (3):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus
Not voting (2): Tammy, Prism

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (3): Battle Mage, GreyICE, Bell
Titus (7):

sangres

, SirCakez,

Kitty Trauma Team

, borkjerfkin, MathBlade, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez (3):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus
Not voting (2): Tammy, Prism

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (1): Battle Mage
Titus (6):

sangres

, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, MathBlade
SirCakez (3):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus

mastina

(2): Bell, GreyICE
Not voting (3): Tammy, Prism,

Kitty Trauma Team

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (1): Battle Mage
Titus (6):

sangres

, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, MathBlade
SirCakez (3):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus

mastina

(2): Bell, GreyICE
Not voting (3): Tammy, Prism,

Kitty Trauma Team

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (2): Battle Mage, Bell
Titus (6):

sangres

, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, MathBlade
SirCakez (3):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus

mastina

(1): GreyICE
Not voting (3): Tammy, Prism,

Kitty Trauma Team

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
MathBlade (1): Battle Mage
Titus (5): SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, MathBlade
SirCakez (4):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus,

Kitty Trauma Team

mastina

(4): GreyICE,

sangres

, Bell, Prism
Not voting (1): Tammy

Dunnstral (3):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, MathBlade, SirCakez
Titus (3): borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez (4):

mastina

, Dunnstral, Titus,

Kitty Trauma Team

mastina

(6): GreyICE,

sangres

, Bell, Prism, Battle Mage, Spiffeh
Not voting (1): Tammy

Dunnstral (2):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

, Spiffeh
SirCakez (7):

mastina

, Dunnstral,

Kitty Trauma Team

, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalbear, Titus, MathBlade

mastina

(7): GreyICE, Prism, Battle Mage, Tammy, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Bell
Mathblade (1):

sangres

Dunnstral (1):

quiet/DrippingGoofball

SirCakez (7):

mastina

, Dunnstral,

Kitty Trauma Team

, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalbear, Titus, MathBlade

mastina

(9--BRONZED): GreyICE, Prism, Battle Mage, Tammy, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Bell,

sangres

, Spiffeh

=========

ANALYSIS

================

Titus (5): SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, MathBlade
SirCakez (4): mastina, Dunnstral, Titus, Kitty Trauma Team
mastina (4): GreyICE, sangres, Bell, Prism

Dunnstral (3): quiet/DrippingGoofball, MathBlade, SirCakez
Titus (3): borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez (4): mastina, Dunnstral, Titus, Kitty Trauma Team
mastina (6): GreyICE, sangres, Bell, Prism, Battle Mage, Spiffeh

The movement between these two wagons is interesting.

Who left the leading Titus wagon, and where did they vote next?

• SirCakez left the Titus wagon for Dunnstral
  
• MathBlade left the Titus wagon for Dunnstral

I will label both these movements as slightly leaning town.

Where did the influx of votes on mastina come from?

• Battle Mage boarded the mastina wagon from MathBlade (it was a vanity wagon), and is vote #4
  
• Spiffeh boarded the mastina wagon from Dunnstral (it had 2-3 votes)

I will label both these movements as leaning town.

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Dunnstral (3): quiet/DrippingGoofball, MathBlade, SirCakez
Titus (3): borkjerfkin, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez (4): mastina, Dunnstral, Titus, Kitty Trauma Team
mastina (6): GreyICE, sangres, Bell, Prism, Battle Mage, Spiffeh
Not voting (1): Tammy

Dunnstral (2): quiet/DrippingGoofball, Spiffeh
SirCakez (7): mastina, Dunnstral, Kitty Trauma Team, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalbear, Titus, MathBlade
mastina (7): GreyICE, Prism, Battle Mage, Tammy, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Bell
Mathblade (1): sangres

Here mastina is leading with six votes, and SirCakez by two.

Where did the influx of votes on SirCakez, the competing wagon to scum come from?

• Lady Lambdadelta left the Titus wagon for SirCakez
  
• PookyTheMagicalbear left the Titus wagon for SirCakez
  
• Titus unvoted and re-voted SirCakez
  
• MathBlade left the Dunnstral wagon for Sir Cakez

I will label all four of these movements as leaning scum; Titus somewhat less so for the unvote/re-vote.

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Dunnstral (2): quiet/DrippingGoofball, Spiffeh
SirCakez (7): mastina, Dunnstral, Kitty Trauma Team, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalbear, Titus, MathBlade
mastina (7): GreyICE, Prism, Battle Mage, Tammy, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Bell
Mathblade (1): sangres

Dunnstral (1): quiet/DrippingGoofball
SirCakez (7): mastina, Dunnstral, Kitty Trauma Team, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalbear, Titus, MathBlade
mastina (9--BRONZED): GreyICE, Prism, Battle Mage, Tammy, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Bell, sangres, Spiffeh

• sangres and Spiffeh drive the mastina wagon to the station.
  
• sangres is the towniest vote for being first tipping the scale.
  
• Spiffeh's hammer is neutral, town or scum could have equally done it.

===========================

Leaning town

Battle Mage
Spiffeh

Slightly leaning town

Sir Cakez >>>

however based on being the mastina counterwagon, I'd cautiously label it as TOWN.

Slightly leaning scum

Titus

Neutral

MathBlade

Leaning scum

Lady Lambdadelta
PookyTheMagicalbear

===========================

DISCLAIMER

These aren't

holistic

game reads, they are

granular

pieces of information based on a single wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yaknow I really wanted people to ask me about Prism so I could do this sooner but I actually don't feel like waiting as a reactive thing so I'mma be proactive and put this out.

I actually have a fairly compelling case for why I think Prism is scum here.

First I want to preface this by saying I'm intentionally playing more abrasively. As mentioned before, diversity is nice and I'm tired of playing friends after Iceland.

1: Nine times out of ten, a player saying this is going to be scum. Deliberately altering your playstyle in a game with multiple players intimately familiar with your playstyle and justifying it in advance is a common scum ploy. (Heck I can even back this up with a rather notorious example if you'd like, but suffice to say, this is a real tell.)

2: Nothing Prism has done this game has felt town. Quite the opposite in fact.

3: I believe Prism's flavor claim of being HG Wells--I do not believe HG Wells would be a VT.

4: I believe HG Wells started with the trident. I do not believe HG Wells started with it as town; I believe it was a scum artifact that Prism is trying to get towncred for.

5: I believe the flavor claim of being HG Wells--I do not believe that makes the claim town. Everyone who watched the show probably remembers how HG Wells ended up, as a retired warehouse agent more or less...but did they forget that HG Wells spent

an entire season

as THE series Big Bad? Whose opening episode on the show was

killing the series' long-established Big Bad

? Not out of heroism, but to show how she was eviler and more insane than the first Big Bad? (Whole, sorting algorithm of evil, thing; she killed the previous big bad to show that she was a worse threat than the previous big bad.)

In fact, HG Wells is one of only three Big Bads I can actually remember. (I know there were more than three, pretty sure, but she sticks out to me as one of the three real, non-imaginary-in-your-head Big Bads. The other two being the one she killed and the final Big Bad.)

In other words I think that Prism is a scum HG Wells, who is not a VT, and who started with the flavor-appropriate trident, and passed it on for cheap towncred.

The biggest question is what was going on in 930s that made Mastina wall Prism

I'm not sure if I want to make conclusions based on mastina wallposts but gut says this is scum vs. town. Why? Ugh, aside from point #1, everything is flavor nitpicking. She begins by saying that Prism is obvscum for behavioral reasons, setting up the stage. But her real "case" here, which should be her

strongest

argument, is all flavor speculation. She really wants to convince us that Prism's flavor is a condemnation. Why would she want to do that? Entertain the possibility that scum may have very townie flavors like

Sally Stukowski

LOL.

[DrippingGoofball]

Anything I should look at in particular?

thoughts on:
Titus
Cakez
Dunn
BM
Pooky
Spiffeh

is what I'd like to see atm.

Titus

- Leaning town atm for earnest, if misguided, VCA. She is treating it as a "game solve" as is her usual m.o. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cakez

- Town by virtue of being the counterwagon to mastina, and general tone and enthusiasm.

BM

- I like BM for town.

Pooky

- Gonna say town for now: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12647693

===========================

Spiffeh

- Something weird.

FEBRUARY 26

- mastina is null.

Town: {Bell,

sangres

, Tammy, Mathblade,

Kitty Trauma Team

}
Townlean: {SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Prism, LLD*}
Null: {Pooky,

mastina

, Titus, GreyICE}
Scumlean: {

quiet

, Battle Mage}
Scum: {Dunnstral}

MARCH 1 2:37 pm

- waffles on mastina yet votes her.

I think mastina's Prism flavor case is trash but I don't think it is necessarily alignment indicative for her. I thought her avoidance of the thread early on could have been scum indicative as I have only seen inactive mastina be scum, but I thought her transition to a more consistent (albeit less than I would like) activity was encouraging. It scares me to say that it's a possibility that all three viable wagons could be Town here.

VOTE: mastina

MARCH 1 2:52 pm

- self-conscious about being a recent vote on mastina???

In post 1837, borkjerfkin wrote:
but i'm more spooked by the last minute shift here than anything else because titus is just sitting there, mastina is MIA, and yet there's momentum
If you're talking about the recent votes on mastina, who specifically are you spooked by on that wagon?

MARCH 1 6:03 pm

- unvotes the scum after 3 hours.

VOTE: Dunnstral

===========================

Dunnstral

- Very cranky, wastes a lot of posts on relative nonsense. Was willing to vote anybody yesterday, but was cagey about mastina. To wit, Dunnstral's #1060:

Yes, I agree

BM's iso is bad

Titus is also bad

I think

sircakez is bad

I'd probably vote for these players today
lld, how confident are you right now?

Mastina not so much for me, but she's weird.

I also don't like the "lld, how confident are you right now?" because that's some pretty sly abandonment of responsibility on LLD. If Dunn is scum; LLD is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

In blue, things Pooky always does as town.
In red, things Pooky may do as scum (???)

THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around

buddying people and coasting

until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially

OMGUS push

on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT

THE KEY POINT

WHERE IT WAS

EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED

.

He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1

- all of his pushes day 1 consist of either

sheeping

or

attacking people who attacked him.

He used being leashed

to LLD as

an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.

He repeatedly expressed

fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him

- despite all of the above.

[DrippingGoofball]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=80832 Here is the game.

Good sleuthing. Claiming mason early in this game is a good way to gain artifacts, no? I haven't read the game rules as usual

I have a hard time reading Pooky in general because his tone plays with y heartstrings but on the basis of his relationship with the mastinascum wagon, I'd be willing to vote there, though I wouldn't have the confidence to push it.

I would be willing to yeet Dunstral on the basis of his #1060 alone, it's classic scum "I have very strong scumreads on townies but I'm very waffly on my buddy

in case I need to bus at some point

" or abreviated, ICINTBASP.

For reference, Dunnstral's #1060:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12621496

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't have a townread on Tammy, largely on account of regular insertion of RL excuses, especially when related to demotivation and lack of participation. That's a scumtell to me. I reckon I am in the minority reading that as scum behavior.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB posting big analysis? Highly unusual in recent experience of town-DGB. anyone else got a meta here?

Yeah my meta is that I do it as town all the time.

@MathBlade, there is deadline, is there?

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: noone

I'll re-evaluate both slots tonight Prism.

It may be hard for you to evaluate from your perspective, but from mine, SirCakez is town for the way he's pushing regardless of your alignment. So please set it aside and contribute in other ways because I find you hard to read enough as it is, it's impossible if all you do is push back against SirCakez.

[DrippingGoofball]

Speaking of, I have an incredible urge to murder titus for calling me scum again and again despite my mason claim at this point

like i just don't see what titus accomplishes by doing it and i wonder if the accomplishment isn't just "shouting into the void to be seen as doign something"

I read it as town.

Scum can say they believe you all day long and NK you. Townies don't know for sure if you're town and have to lay out their doubts in broad daylight.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am trying to help get an explanation for DGB scum other than quiet lurked on D1.

DGB being scum is likely why scum couldn't flip the wagon to Cakez.

What??? SirCakez is town.

@Prism - earlier in the game I addressed you. I hinted something specifically at you. I was hoping you'd read between the lines. Clearly you did not. Go back and read again.

[DrippingGoofball]

You didn't catch it then.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's unfortunate, but I will say nothing more about it. Keep voting me.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's unfortunate, but I will say nothing more about it. Keep voting me.

I don’t get why you would say for prism to keep voting you.

Resignation.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think your initial response to Titus was pretty emotional manipulative.

how

[DrippingGoofball]

Assume it is obvious and you are town:

Who do you think is voting/shading you for D1 play?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they want you gone?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they genuinely scumread you?

@DGB I didn’t get an answer to this?

I didn't realize this was directed at me.

I only have three votes. Titus, Dunnstral, Prism.

• Titus always scumreads me. I don't think very highly of her VCA in terms of results, but I like that the exercize makes it easier for me to read her alignment. Misguided as she is, I think she is town who believes in her VCA. It's happened before; recently we were in a game where her VCA was an abomination and she was literally yeeted for a VCA so bad no one believed it could come from town. She was town
  
• Dunnstral, possibly a combination of voting D1/D2 play, wants me gone, but could want me gone because he's scum, and that's where I'm at with Dunnstral. He's a scumread of mine.
  
• I am mystified by Prism, I don't understand what she's doing, she is my strongest town read in the game, I can't wrap my head around it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is DGB voting Titus atm when they have made like 6 posts about Titus being town lmao

Did you check the votecount? There's a reason why I'm keeping it there despite the read, at least for now. I'm waiting for something.

[DrippingGoofball]

Can we not wait until the last minute to eliminate someone this time?

Why is DGB voting Titus atm when they have made like 6 posts about Titus being town lmao

Did you check the votecount? There's a reason why I'm keeping it there despite the read, at least for now. I'm waiting for something.

This is why we wait until the last minute.

I'm just one vote. I'm not the one holding things back.

[DrippingGoofball]

P-Edit: Is it because you're the alternative or want the nonvoters to vote somewhere?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB townreading Titus this whole Day but keeping its vote there is not a good look.

Now it's become self-preservation.

VOTE: DGB

I was bodyguard, protected Prism. This is what I hinted at to Prism, so I'm pretty shocked she continued to vote me.

Kirk out

[DrippingGoofball]

I keep rolling awesome town PRs lately and I keep fucking up and getting myself hanged and vigged and never get in more than one night choice.

[DrippingGoofball]

My scumdar is so broken lately that I'll win more games as a dead PR than alive.

[DrippingGoofball]

Prism hammer me so that I can sign up or replace in another game and fuck it up too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hi DGB

I believe your self vote puts you at L-1, you're not hammered.

I don't think there's any way in hell town!you votes yourself thinking you've hammered. I think this is a gambit to try to "townslip as a last ditch effort to save yourself.

I know I'm not hammered, that's why I am asking Prism to hammer me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Okay, you definitely know that I'm already voting you, surely lmao

Whatever

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd say Spiffeh is scum but no one should trust my reads.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also while I was a nice near-UTR I was literally a claimed VT with no artifact

Can you fullclaim w/ flavor & artifacts?

No artifacts. This I remember. Let me check the stupid flavor, as if it matters.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh I guess I misinterpretted, you're not trying to pretend you hammered yourself.

Either way I don't think town!DGB acts like this.

Here's more

DGB would do this, DGB would do that

, made up strawman BS. How on Earth do you know what I don't even know myself.

Anyhoo you're scum why am I arguing with you

[DrippingGoofball]

My flavor is Mrs. Frederic's bodyguard - power called Phoenix -

[DrippingGoofball]

Even with bodyguard over doctor I'm pretty shocked that we have an inventor mason w/ a selfprotection artifact and a bodyguard.

Not impossible but uhhhhhh

Maybe you don't and the mason claim is BS

Kill me and find out

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB lost me. I don't understand what is going on here at all. You've been playing Mafia for over a decade and you're still making posts like that? It has to be a joke. Or an act. How can you have played and experienced so much and then make a post like that?
it's not a good scum post, it's not a good town post.
What am I seeing?

LOL

I make posts like that VERY PREDICTABLY

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I fucked up my PR again.

I'm so angry with myself.

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The Phoenix is an artifact, which is interesting.

I literally got a separate PM saying I got nothing in my inventory.

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IDK why you're being so hard on yourself right now when it's literally just our fault if you're town lol

Game after game of fucking up PRs and hard townreading all the scum does that.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB lost me. I don't understand what is going on here at all. You've been playing Mafia for over a decade and you're still making posts like that? It has to be a joke. Or an act. How can you have played and experienced so much and then make a post like that?
it's not a good scum post, it's not a good town post.
What am I seeing?

LOL

I make posts like that VERY PREDICTABLY

Please elaborate so I can understand where you're coming from and why you are town this game.

UNVOTE:

I don't believe in meta but I do this all the goddam time, I don't know why it's not in my vanity title. Why I'm town? Who cares, I was the BG and I wanted to be the hero to save another PR for another day, instead I'm just another fucking zero and if you don't kill me today I'll be dead tomorrow.

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IDK why you're being so hard on yourself right now when it's literally just our fault if you're town lol

Game after game of fucking up PRs and hard townreading all the scum does that.

Okay, so you're on a losing streak. Don't people usually just reevaluate how they've hunted and figure out a method or something else they can do to to achieve a town win condition.

Yeah

Getting killed early improves my chances at winning lately.

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your reads are literally too sharp

I can't do anything right.

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Even having "sharp reads" gets my yeeted.

A fine example of my shitty scumdar
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85985

In this game, I'd suicide bomb on Dunnstral, so he's probably town
I'm townreading Titus, so she's scum

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I can see DGB being frustrated but not to the point of self voting and acting defeatist, when looking at the posts prior to her self vote.

Again more presumptuous, pompous declarations of what I'd do or not do.

I'll do as I please and may your made up goal posts be damned.

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you have played well, so well that it's suspicious.

Right? I wanted to live because of my PR, and even that gets me killed.

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instead of pushing for my lim if you truly felt this way

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm probably wrong again, I'm sure as hell not going to try to push any of my garbage reads.

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Is it because that "townread" being limmed was your only chance at surviving?

Is that a problem?

I know my alignment.

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Pretty much, for somebody that wants to die they're giving Spiffeh a lot of shit.

How are these two things incompatible?

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You have touted her as a town read all this time but have been parked on her

What was the point of unvoting when she was in no danger, and I didn't know who else to vote for?

Spiffeh you're just looking for reasons to yeet me. Pick one and just do it.

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A game where I'm proud of my play will continue to elude me, I see.

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This is a tactical demand for a reset. Using AtE.
I don't think the emotions are real.

VOTE: DGB

I apologize if wrong DGB as I am essentially denying your feelings by saying I don't believe them. I'm not sure how to say this in a less insensitive way.

You're just scum looking for reasons, I'll be sure to congratulate you and Spiffeh when the game is over.

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I just wanna note I'm gonna be salty if we have to randomly guess what is a role power and what is an artifact this game

Imagine your shock where, in addition to bodyguard, I'm also going to flip one-shot bulletproof.

All wasted on MS's shittiest player

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this heavily imples DGB scum

You're as good as player as me, I see.

Just vote me and get it over with.

[DrippingGoofball]

one shot bulletproof bodyguard?

So she can what, protect me twice?

Hammer me, the town will yeet you tomorrow, one for one we go.

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DGB is claiming one-shot bulletproof bodyguard

Wow I missed the bulletproof part

This is NOT a town claim

LOL you are sooooooooooooooo looking for reasons

You'd yeet me for farting too slowly

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB is claiming one-shot bulletproof bodyguard

Wow I missed the bulletproof part

This is NOT a town claim

That's why I held it off

I knew this would happen

But since Prism got started with setup spec... I had to out it fully.

[DrippingGoofball]

LLD

You faking mason to collect artifacts away from the town?

[DrippingGoofball]

I apologize to all for yet another shitty anti-town performance and waste of an awesome PR.

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Maybe I existed to prevent LLD's gambit.

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Thank you penguin for modding!

Serene needs to return so that kuribo can teach me how to scum hunt and I can teach him how to be the day 1 yeet in every game.

[DrippingGoofball]

The only player I've been able to read is Titus, and Titus scumreads me every single time.

[DrippingGoofball]

You inherited your scumread based on the votes. I was sticking with the votes with the theory the scumteam hadn't imploded because emotional reading takes psychological efforts that I just lacked. You never had a shot and I'm sorry for that.

Your VCA always gets me wrong, too.

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Mastina, you're a good sport <3