Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

WHO KILLED SYRYANA
VOTE: spiffeh
It was you wasn't it you little scumfuck

[SirCakez]

Math I trust you to be my flavor guide this game

[SirCakez]

Im so excited for the page count limit
I'm so sick of unlimited day 1s that go in circles forever
Anyone who was in recent Booneytoonz knows what I'm talking about

[SirCakez]

Tammy I swear I'll redeem myself for Popcorn

[SirCakez]

Math I trust you to be my flavor guide this game

im not sure if he is in this game?

Huh?

[SirCakez]

If flavor is alignment indicative then scum would receive fake claims.

yikes

guess i need to hit the mechanical drawing board to think of a way to confirm i am a specific person

See I don’t think you’re seeing the point here.

You could claim and be mod confirmed any character from the show that says nothing for who you are.

Instead of “confirming” yourself you should be trying to hunt.

How your flavor claim would fit is irrelevant if scum have fake claims.

You’re spouting noise and should fucking stop.

What are you even trying to fight about here?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: titus
I hate her entrance

[SirCakez]

) There is only one anti-town faction in play for this game (Mafia). There are four Mafia-aligned players.

Come on guys

[SirCakez]

VOTE: spiffeh
here the scumfuck can have it

[SirCakez]

Those last two BattleMage posts were not great

I need moar

[SirCakez]

If LLD is still arrive circa day four she is probably scum lol

[SirCakez]

Alive*

[SirCakez]

Pooky does not have anyone's back, I've learned recently

[SirCakez]

Mouse on the bus

[SirCakez]

Elaborate?

He's been scum lately

[SirCakez]

I think Spiffeh town BM scum Prism null LLD scum lean Cakez is prob town but scum in a very minor circumstance so not considering it. If I am right then Titus is town by proxy.

Scummy reads

This all you have to say?

[SirCakez]

Quiet I hope we can see more of you this game after booneytoonz had such a lame ending

[SirCakez]

Wow penguin made me use the confirmation phrase...

[SirCakez]

#192: You called?

I was gonna day that’s like me and bell I think and that would get real boring, but I didn’t want to hurt your feelings if you were sensitive about it so I just chuckled to myself.

I'm sensitive about it, in that kind of, "why can't I lie good so that I don't ruin the game for others?" Guilt sense.
But that's about it.

Just off the top of my head.

Pooky, Dun, BM, LLD. Town.

Could be wrong on one or more.

Spiffeh and Math both kind of just reminding me of their scum game, but on the otherhand, they both appear incapable of rolling town in games I'm in so take that with a grain of salt or 10.

I'm meh on everyone else.

Tammy's a vibe read this game.

Are we finally town together Bell?????

The other alternative would again be a lady who would be a very viable fake claim for scum or town depending upon which timeline we are in. However she doesn’t make sense combined with the black hole reference where as the gentleman does. Therefore she would be a horrible flavor to confirm much as she is probably my favorite character in the entire show.

I feel like y’all are going to yeet me and so I am just going to try to stop as much damage as possible before you do.

You can hate my reads I am shit at it but after I am dead please listen to my mechanical advice. It’s almost always spot on.

I was really excited to go far in this game too.

Why are you having this meltdown less than 24 hours into the game?

[SirCakez]

Pooky do you think continuing to proclaim that I'm scum every time I post is going to get you townread?

I can tell you rn it's not working

Why do you even care Spiff? Normally you shake this stuff off.

Why are you having this meltdown less than 24 hours into the game?

Mala assured me that math having a meltdown isn't alignment indicative, more that warehouse 13 is one of maths favorite shows and so math feels strongly about the flavor

But that's immaterial to me because that isn't even close to a "meltdown"


Like, you're in a game with me, GreyICE, and LLD. And while the rules specifically say a dim view will be taken on toxicity and even excessive cursing, it's like... that's what you call a meltdown?!


That doesn't even crack the top 50,000.

-k

Ok what's your point here? This is such a dumb thing to nitpick.

[SirCakez]

I'm expecting a certain half of sangres to be extremely paranoid this game

[SirCakez]

Ok what's your point here? This is such a dumb thing to nitpick.

My point is that I feel like you're making mountains out of emotional molehills by calling that a meltdown, and that's a real real strong alarm bell to me.

So again, I ask you, what part of that post you quoted do you call a meltdown? Two mildly peeved posts, if even that level of annoyance is hardly a meltdown, but that's the word you used.

-k

He was literally saying he was excited to play the game but was accepting that he was going to be elimmed after like one person attacked him. It was ridiculous.

[SirCakez]

Not sure what to think about Prism yet

MathBlade has been transparently town to me from jump and I'm not thrilled with there already seeming to be somewhat of a consensus scum read there

He's clearly not the most charismatic player itg (no offense!) and I feel that's being used to put him in the hot seat already and there is absolutely no scum motivation to start and maintain this back and forth with Prism so early on

+1 This is how I feel.

Do you have your own opinions tho

[SirCakez]

What does that have to do with this game?

Nothing really I was making a joke about his title it wasn't game relevant

[SirCakez]

Why are we discussing the definition of a meltdown? Mathblade's emotions made him easier to read imo. Why care about the description?

I agree with you on that, remember, reading emotions is how I read the game.

I'm asking why Cakez felt the need to use that word in particular. Meltdown makes it sound so much messier, more charged than what it was. I mean, it's not like I recently laid out exactly why I take a second look at players who do that or noted the very real fact that it has netted me scum on a shockingly accurate basis. I could be misapplying what amounts to a personal tell that only works when the target is me, but there's only one way to fine out.

So no, we're not nitpicking over a definition. I'm not even calling Cakez scum. But here's the thing: Attempting to paint another player as more angry or volatile than they are has serious scum equity. And so I want to know: why the word meltdown? And while we're at it, I want to know if Cakez thinks Math is scum or town. Many answers to these questions would be more than satisfactory to me, but I'll tell you one that isn't: "Why do you care?"

-k

Call it an overreaction then if it bothers you.
I think Math is town-ish actually I just think his behavior is very silly.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: prism this is fine

[SirCakez]

Hot take: dunnstral is scum again

[SirCakez]

Where GreyIce?

[SirCakez]

Ok what's your point here? This is such a dumb thing to nitpick.

My point is that I feel like you're making mountains out of emotional molehills by calling that a meltdown, and that's a real real strong alarm bell to me.

So again, I ask you, what part of that post you quoted do you call a meltdown? Two mildly peeved posts, if even that level of annoyance is hardly a meltdown, but that's the word you used.

-k

He was literally saying he was excited to play the game but was accepting that he was going to be elimmed after like one person attacked him. It was ridiculous.

LLD Mala Prism Bell Titus Dunn are one person. Some have stated they’ve checked out til elim phase. That’s not one person.

Ok one person was an exaggeration

[SirCakez]

I think ur town dude just stop feeding people attacking you

[SirCakez]

Do you think he's scum Bell?

[SirCakez]

People don’t just offhand comment “Insert paragraph” I may be socially weird but that doesn’t happen.

It can be a comment when somebody doesn't want to write the full thing out but knows they can.

[SirCakez]

Has Spiffeh even rolled town since he came back to ms

[SirCakez]

I think Prism is townier

[SirCakez]

I'm slightly leaning town on Prism but also think if Prism is scum, they really really want that artefact, which is bad news. LLD didn't push as hard for it.

No one even knows what it does though

[SirCakez]

LLD and Prism are playing like idiots

[SirCakez]

VOTE: lld

[SirCakez]

I would describe battle mage and bell as thirsty

[SirCakez]

Actually scratch Bell from that

[SirCakez]

I would describe battle mage and bell as thirsty

i think someone already used that word? strange coincidence, unless you were just repeating?

Yeah someone did I'm ripping them off

[SirCakez]

LLD and Prism are playing like idiots

What, you think it was wrong for me to claim this role in this position?

It was always happening today, I just got to smoke out Prism's weird distracting nonsense of a soft half claim at the same time to sort it as well.

Personally, I think this is optimal outcome, especially since I got to troll Prism a little too.

Yeah and I don't think it was necessary but whatever it's done

[SirCakez]

VOTE: dunnstral
Please be town Spiffeh

[SirCakez]

A Math wagon is really boring and unhelpful
Join this one instead!

[SirCakez]

Yeah I'm happy with my Dunn vote

[SirCakez]

A Math wagon is really boring and unhelpful
Join this one instead!

No.

Why not?

[SirCakez]

Hot take: dunnstral is scum again

This is not a hot take, it's a good one.

Three of Dunny's four posts have been low effort nitpicks, and the other was a mechanics question that I didn't understand. 174 specifically doesn't sound like something town says, questioning specific players about their sangres read is one thing but shading everyone town reading them without explanation is useless. It reminds me of Titus vs. Alisae when I caught him for similar shady, nitpicky posting where he'd lurk and post full quote-wall catch ups taking potshots at random shit that never ended up forming into genuine reads or having real progression.

And while I've been scum in my three recently completed games, Dunn has been town in all of them and he it was obvious from his first few posts. That's not the case here.

Maybe I'm calling this out too early and it would have been better to see how he continues to play the game without my interference but I kinda want to try and this is me trying

VOTE: Dunnstral

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=30572

Nobody is going to read through that long-ass game. Make your point.

[SirCakez]

Still pretty slammed today, but I'm committed to carving out that time late tonight; order of operations will be trying to break up/sort out my town pile into some kind of sensible grouping/order, figure out who doesn't make sense in combination, and review the positioning around Math and Prism this morning.

What is your read on Math? You kinda dance around him without actually taking a position.

[SirCakez]

Furthermore I am sketched out that Bork never confirmed anything specific so we don’t know if Bork actually got it.

So this is just weird. I don’t like it and maintain my objection and if I am miselimmed while I am at work artifacts always go to townreads. Assume LLD is scum until/unless she proves a mason buddy as she is breaking the cardinal rules of how she operates. Her play today is absolute garbage and she should be ashamed.

I can't even remember a Bork post this game. He needs to get his butt in here.

[SirCakez]

Ignoring Math until he starts using his brain

[SirCakez]

This is VC pagetop reservation~

Who told you you could do that?

[SirCakez]

What is my scum MO Math?

[SirCakez]

General negativity and not building a townread list or starting from there

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=26092

Same vibes as here
I suck at explaining meta reads so example provided

Ok but that's just how I play it's not unique to my scum meta.

[SirCakez]

Along that thought stream, what if LLD is town and Prism is town and they’re both town derp? Scum didn’t want me miselimmed but were more than happy to add to the pressure.

And Cakez that is not you every game. You ask more questions as town. More vocal.

What's your example here?

And Pooky imho is scum.

lolol what

I don't even know who the bad guys in the show are

Says scumbear

A Math wagon is really boring and unhelpful
Join this one instead!

No.

Why not?

Joke answer: Because he's my scum partner.

Actual answer: I've made a similar case on Dunnstral before and he was town in that game. I'm not going to say he's town in this one, but I'm more cautious about it and it seems like scum are pretty happy to vote Dunnstrall, but not Mathblade.

Who are the scum voting Dunnstral?

Titus feels off.

What's off? This is useless.

[SirCakez]

Bless the page limit

[SirCakez]

I reread and think the Dunnstrall wagon is now blatantly anti-town.
Get off or claim scum.

I take your threat and raise you a literally no one cares

[SirCakez]

I want more from players like bork, mastina, GreyICE, and Pooky (Not really a lurker) because I think they're likely scum slots by default.

Yeah these four are not looking hot
In fact I'd say they are looking quite cold

[SirCakez]

you can't seriously scumread me

that's absurd

This was so scummy and fake

[SirCakez]

I reread and think the Dunnstrall wagon is now blatantly anti-town.
Get off or claim scum.

I take your threat and raise you a literally no one cares

I take your idleness and call you scum for it. You're not hunting.

I'm doing more hunting then your crappy potshots so far this game

[SirCakez]

I don't think anyone can ISO me and then objectively say that's what I have been doing this game

[SirCakez]

I can't believe you legitimately think it's absurd for someone to SR you

[SirCakez]

Just look at your ISO it's fluffier then a teddy bear

[SirCakez]

Ok

[SirCakez]

wait that's it?

The ok was to Bell
I don't have any more to say to you either tho

[SirCakez]

Cakez, you made a bit of a thing about expecting paranoia from me. You haven't really done anything with it since. If that's how you plan to read me here, what's going on wrt it?

It hasn't been long enough. I think I made that point like 24 hours ago?

[SirCakez]

Pooky, you worry me.

Can you say more about this? Because I think Pooky is scummy but I am not sure if this means you feel the same way.

[SirCakez]

does any1 read mathblades posts and actually think he doesnt believe LLD is a mason

Yeah I do that's Mathlogic

this is so bad i think u r trying to make me look bad after u redflip so people will be like. oooh scumtheater

Awful fearmongering

My impression of the game was that you were getting townreads too easily. I also think this is true for spiffeh, by the by. I had 4 posts at the time, saying I didn't follow up isn't really fair

Who cares?

[SirCakez]

Interestingly, you posted this and then called out the only paranoia source I've acknowledged with a post.

I didn't take the "worry me" post as paranoia I took that as just you calling Pooky scummy
To me paranoia is when you've had someone sitting in the town block with you for three days and you start to wonder if they are deepwolf

[SirCakez]

cake what fearmongering am i doing

I actually got the post backwards. MB.

[SirCakez]

I'm nowhere near 100% on bork being town, but I liked his "you don't have to worry about me" post, and kinda townread it.

I think if bork's scum again it will show pretty quickly because he hates being scum and is no doubt still exhausted from drawing 2 scum roles in a row.

I admit the "you don't have to worry about me" part of that post was what most I townread him for from his ISO

However, that is overshadowed by two things:
1. His posts this game just seem overly...polished/manufactured? 694 is one of the posts that gave me this impression. Idk how to put it but I just get the vibe he's concerned with how he comes across here where I didn't at all feel that way in Tenet.
2. More concerning, I didn't like his interaction with you. The question about your read on LLD before her mason claim is pretty useless, as LLD has already claimed mason and is confirmed town assuming that claim is true. What is he looking for from you in terms getting a read when asking that? And then mentioning Tenet and how you both were fooled by LLD felt off to me too. I think scum!bork recognizes part of his win condition is getting town!sangres on his side and I view this interaction more as him buddying you than genuinely trying to get a read on you.

I can foresee this Day turning into the MathBlade/Titus/Dunnstral show and I'd prefer to shine some light on and not write off some of the players that are more likely to escape radars.

I don't think scum!Bork can snow ffery this game due to what happened in Tenet.

I'm nowhere near 100% on bork being town, but I liked his "you don't have to worry about me" post, and kinda townread it.

I think if bork's scum again it will show pretty quickly because he hates being scum and is no doubt still exhausted from drawing 2 scum roles in a row.

I admit the "you don't have to worry about me" part of that post was what most I townread him for from his ISO

However, that is overshadowed by two things:
1. His posts this game just seem overly...polished/manufactured? 694 is one of the posts that gave me this impression. Idk how to put it but I just get the vibe he's concerned with how he comes across here where I didn't at all feel that way in Tenet.
2. More concerning, I didn't like his interaction with you. The question about your read on LLD before her mason claim is pretty useless, as LLD has already claimed mason and is confirmed town assuming that claim is true. What is he looking for from you in terms getting a read when asking that? And then mentioning Tenet and how you both were fooled by LLD felt off to me too. I think scum!bork recognizes part of his win condition is getting town!sangres on his side and I view this interaction more as him buddying you than genuinely trying to get a read on you.

I can foresee this Day turning into the MathBlade/Titus/Dunnstral show and I'd prefer to shine some light on and not write off some of the players that are more likely to escape radars.

I applaud your final sentence here, but I feel like it's been the MathBlade/Dunnstral show, which is my biggest qualm about voting Dunn, plus a few of his posts do give me some town-glimmers. Nacho's Dunn-scumread is the stronger one.

I'm hyper-alert about bork, and I'm going to give him room for now.

I just want Math to STFU and let the game breathe for a day

[SirCakez]

I'm not seeing whatever you're seeing in Dunn's more recent posting Spiffeh

[SirCakez]

because ffery's aforementioned paranoia
And I feel like if you are scum you'd be aware of that

[SirCakez]

its p funny cakez/titus both want mathb to stop scumspewing all over the thread lulz

what are you trying to insinuate here?

[SirCakez]

i mean, i play w/ ffery all the time, trying to find each other early isn't really a new thing for us, and i would definitely make an attempt to engage her as scum as i did in illicit substances, the last game where we had that exact alignment combo, where she kind of sat in my pocket all game to the point that she wouldn't let cabd vote me.

so yeah, a++++ would attempt pocket again

it strikes me that your posts about this aren't really considering the possibility that they're not town

Bigger scumspects to fry atm

I feel LLD and GreyICE are probably town, but their play is shit. LLD in particular cares more about control than honesty and valor. I bet that will make her angry but I don't really care about LLD's tantrums.

I don't know how you can call GI town with what he's posted

[SirCakez]

what are you trying to insinuate here?

don't be nervous buddy

I'm not nervous your logic is terrible if it's what I think you're implying.
Why would I be coaching Math in thread if we were buddies?

[SirCakez]

Dunnstral is all like "better not let this easy miselim slip out of our hands"

[SirCakez]

I'm not that bad

[SirCakez]

I'm not that bad

In fairness to Pooky, well, I've played with you before. He kinda got a point.

?????????
I don't even remember what you're referring to

[SirCakez]

We kinda all coached each other in BooneyToonz lol

[SirCakez]

This is such a dumb argument anyways
Literally nowhere on site does coaching in the main game thread still happen

[SirCakez]

Dunnstral is all like "better not let this easy miselim slip out of our hands"

This does not sound like my scum play, or what you've seen of my scum play. It's also very weak.

You just saw me in Popcorn Mafia

Be more specific.

This is such a dumb argument anyways
Literally nowhere on site does coaching in the main game thread still happen

are you more insulted by GI's lack of belief in your scum skills

or my belief that you'd actually openly coach a buddy in the thread

or MB's belief that it should be him coaching you and not the other way around?

:3

there's only one correct answer that Town!Cakez would make

All of the above
All three of you are clowns

I developed a ton of respect for your play and approach to the game in Tenet despite our both being pocketed by scum-Dandelion. It came to naught in that game, but I thought the fundamentals of your townhunting, scumhunting, and leadership/management in the forward thread was really solid.

If you're town here, I hope your play reaches that level and I want to work with you -- this time without being lost in deep fog and unable to link up with other town as well.

Right now, I don't feel like we're on a course where that happens.

Yeah? My play in Tenet didn't happen spontaneously when I joined the game

Here I got voted instantly after having made 4 posts, and I'm constantly being hounded about those four posts (you're still doing this)

FTR my scumread on you has evolved well past the "four posts"

Really? 152 made me go from nullscum to locktown?

This cracked me up too

[SirCakez]

Mastina's reads are truly awful

[SirCakez]

Honestly not wrong.

I actually think you're probably my strongest non-LLD townread, which would be:
Lady Lambdadelta*
PookyTheMagicalBear

I am definitely being set up here >_>

Elaborate.

Yaknow I really wanted people to ask me about Prism so I could do this sooner but I actually don't feel like waiting as a reactive thing so I'mma be proactive and put this out.

I actually have a fairly compelling case for why I think Prism is scum here.

First I want to preface this by saying I'm intentionally playing more abrasively. As mentioned before, diversity is nice and I'm tired of playing friends after Iceland.

1: Nine times out of ten, a player saying this is going to be scum. Deliberately altering your playstyle in a game with multiple players intimately familiar with your playstyle and justifying it in advance is a common scum ploy. (Heck I can even back this up with a rather notorious example if you'd like, but suffice to say, this is a real tell.)

2: Nothing Prism has done this game has felt town. Quite the opposite in fact.

3: I believe Prism's flavor claim of being HG Wells--I do not believe HG Wells would be a VT.

4: I believe HG Wells started with the trident. I do not believe HG Wells started with it as town; I believe it was a scum artifact that Prism is trying to get towncred for.

5: I believe the flavor claim of being HG Wells--I do not believe that makes the claim town. Everyone who watched the show probably remembers how HG Wells ended up, as a retired warehouse agent more or less...but did they forget that HG Wells spent

an entire season

as THE series Big Bad? Whose opening episode on the show was

killing the series' long-established Big Bad

? Not out of heroism, but to show how she was eviler and more insane than the first Big Bad? (Whole, sorting algorithm of evil, thing; she killed the previous big bad to show that she was a worse threat than the previous big bad.)

In fact, HG Wells is one of only three Big Bads I can actually remember. (I know there were more than three, pretty sure, but she sticks out to me as one of the three real, non-imaginary-in-your-head Big Bads. The other two being the one she killed and the final Big Bad.)

In other words I think that Prism is a scum HG Wells, who is not a VT, and who started with the flavor-appropriate trident, and passed it on for cheap towncred.

Since when do you write cases?

At this point the thread is going to be pissed off when I flip town and bicker at each other. This is the first time I have /inned to a game in a year+ and the biggest thing I have learned is just to never /in and replace in always. And that’s sad.

You’re still scum Pooky.

????? we were just in Booney together

[SirCakez]

VOTE: pooky
here my Dunn vote is stale and Pooky's posting lately has been truly terrible

[SirCakez]

Prism what is a game where you were scum?

[SirCakez]

I wonder if this is the game where Battle Mage and I are town together

[SirCakez]

cakeboi trying real hard to get into the too scummy to be scum pile. playing into his natural strengths. :3

yes this is my plan

[SirCakez]

I wonder if this is the game where Battle Mage and I are town together

To elaborate on this, he feels different from previous games but like not in a bad way? He feels a lot more transparently town then in other games.

[SirCakez]

Quite possibly the towniest town who ever towned

Honestly not wrong.

I actually think you're probably my strongest non-LLD townread, which would be:
Lady Lambdadelta*
PookyTheMagicalBear
Dunnstral
Bell
Kitty Trauma Team (hydra of Malakittens and kuribo)
borkjerfkin
sangres (hydra of fferyllt and Nachomamma8)
Tammy
GreyICE*

Titus
Spiffeh

Battle Mage


quiet

MathBlade

Prism
SirCakez

FUCK YOU

I DON'T WANT TO LYNCH LLD DAY ONE

I'VE BEEN AVOIDING THIS

Like she's not town.
I know she's not town.
It's just not a wagon that's going to succeed today, and I'd like to play a game with my wife where something stupid doesn't happen day 1.
If I'm dead tonight come back to this plox

Are you calling LLD scum just because she's mastina's top townread? lmao

No.
It’s very much in character for me to want things town should want as town.
I’m not a difficult read. Pretty much everybody that matters already thinks I’m town this game.
And I will not let them or you forget it.

Food tell

I am very, very glad I went to lunch and a walk before making this.

The issue is not you being paranoid or not townreading me. The issue is that any attempt to dialogue with you across three different fucking games has been met with outright hostility and refusal to exercise even the most rudimentary level of critical thinking when presented with feedback on your thought processes. Simultaneously, I am apparently god herself because I made a fucking horrendous opening post in FGO that the one player who knew me correctly identified it as a hard scumclaim. I replaced out of illicit half because of you, half because ffery was being annoying. I tolerated you in Xenoblade because I had petapan. I considered dodging this game for several players in the list and you are one of them. I no longer consider the first an option, and petapan is not here. You are not scum right now, but if we lose later because you won't fucking dialogue with me and say "It's obvious", I will not feel even remotely sorry for you.

Sit down, and think to yourself again whether "spotless go deep scumplay" matches up even remotely with page 1 of the game, and do better.

I am sorry that you felt this way about me and did not enjoy playing with me. Without expressing your feelings directly I won't notice your frustrations.

I shut down dialogue about whether or not I am scum or whether or not my thinking makes sense because engaging people on their read of me is unpleasant for me and rarely feels productive. I will explain my thinking, but "does it make sense for Bell to be this paranoid on day 1 about me given I posted like once in FGO and he is using that as the basis for his opinion of me doesn't make sense." I refer to the idea of how foundational (by necessity really) first impressions are and they rarely go away. I did not feel like going through the minor frustrations of articulating myself on that, not because I'm scum, but because it's just hard to explain how I felt about your posts in FGO and how when reisoing your slot later in that game turned me away from thinking you were scum and how that was problematic for the game state at the time. Because I felt that your early post was distinctly townie in appearance. Now somebody being famliar with your play an calling it a scum claim is great and all but I didn't know that nor was I likely going to give them the time of day on a swipe read like that, that they made in jest and didn't even follow it up with a vote.

Likewise, I don't see why me asking for the comb is in anyway concerning, sure I could have been scum and if you were town that distrust might have made you feel afraid, but given you also self-voted for it, as did others you should be able to understand why I would want it. You quoted me mentioning I wanted it because I was town and agreed with me later. . You linked that post but did not articulate what about me self voting and asking for the comb was problematic, so I either had to guess or.

I mean, just reading what I've written so fair, I'm like, why did I even write all this? What good will it do? and iunno, but I'll respect your feelings on this matter and answer your questions when you ask.

This post is town as fuck

[SirCakez]

I got behind

[SirCakez]

Are you calling LLD scum just because she's mastina's top townread? lmao

CAKEBOI IS IN ON THE SETUP CALLING IT HERE

damn Pooky u should be a psychic

This post is town as fuck

No it's not, it's NAI. I'd make that post to anyone regardless of my alignment. In fact it's probably a good example of something that I'd often call "belongs in Mafia Discussion" because I could transplant it there almost word for word without breaking site rules.

It's just a post I felt like making

The post I quoted there was a Bell post though

[SirCakez]

I could sheep Prism on KTT, then no one can call it OMGUS

[SirCakez]

these flavor arguments are fucking dumb
nobody should be basing any read on anybody's flavor claim

Pretty town
===========
bork

Can you talk about this one because Bork has not shown up at all for me yet

Tammy and sangres will not be dying tonight.

This is not a crumb (I don't do that), it is a fact.

Carry on.

you are heading in a compass direction on my readslist that is not north, east or west

A few recent scumreads from Math IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER (note, this is only a sample, and excludes townreads - the flip-flopping between townreads and scumreads is incredible).

Mastina is scum

BM and Titus are scum though pretty much ride or die.

You’re still scum Pooky.

my gut pings she’s scum.

VOTE: Mastina

I can do BM or Titus. I prefer Titus.

Prism is probably scum

VOTE: Pooky
I do scumread you.

VOTE: SirCakez

I have reasons but they’re anti town to say

VOTE: Dunn

Actually
VOTE: Cakez

Hopefully this can become a thing.

This post is kind of misleading because some of these posts are renaming the same SRs. It's not like it's 15 different SRs.

[SirCakez]

I'm catching up now but here's a real hot take: The star-crossed siblings MathBlade and Titus are both Town and will be mislimmed this game despite my efforts.

Let's see the efforts then
I'm excited

Maybe she’s going for the too scummy to be scum approach

On that note I started writing such a detailed post to Fery and then my iPad died during the middle of it and i lost it all.

FML

your mistake was playing MS on an iPad

Yea I'm sure Dunnstral after getting savagely snowed and crushed in Tenet would decide to play the exact same way because he is a glutton for suffering and pain.

Look at this shit
I'd bet dollars to donuts Pooky and Dunn are buddies
Pooky would definitely go in hard to protect a scumbuddy because redacted

[SirCakez]

there are too many walls in this game I had to start skimming

He's gotten two or three votes with players widely suspicious of him beyond those who have voted him already. I remain optimistic on that front.

Who the fuck are these people?
You obviously can't actually case me.

In other news where did quiet go?

[SirCakez]

want to yeet: Dunn, Pooky, Titus,
would yeet: Quiet, KTT, mastina
idk: Spiffeh, Bell, GreyIce, Bork
don't want to yeet: sangres, Tammy, BM, Math
never yeet: Prism, LLD

[SirCakez]

want to yeet: Dunn, Pooky, Titus,
would yeet: Quiet, KTT, mastina
idk: Spiffeh, Bell, GreyIce, Bork
don't want to yeet: sangres, Tammy, BM, Math
never yeet: Prism, LLD

To elab on some of these i haven't talked about:

Prism did a good job explaining my unease with KTT. I thought the worst thing was when Mala just sort of sheeped onto SRing me with the exact same logic as Kuribo. It felt really unnatural, like something they cooked up as their big push of the day in their hydra PT.

Like some have said Quiet has just been way more absent then when he was town in BooneyToonz.

Mastina I always find to be scummy but idk I have a gut feeling here she is actually scum this time.

[SirCakez]

Yeah fight me.
Mala presented her SR of me like it was some original thought and not an agreement with you.

[SirCakez]

but wait, did she present it as an original thought? or did we cook it up together? can't be both, genius.

Yes it can...

I'm sorry you guys are having irl issues though

[SirCakez]

Too bad I'm not gonna roll over for your scum squad

[SirCakez]

On break.
Can you explain why spiffy and I are null reads cakez?

I’m hesitant to pile on esp. given your reads lists is kind of out there and I can feel some of that shift onto your head. But I gotta ask anyway.

Actually you should be in "don't want to yeet"
I forgot about that one post you made that I thought was extremely town
Spiffeh is null because his earlier posting and Dunn case were good but I also feel like at points he's making posts that are super coasty

[SirCakez]

Can you elaborate on "out there"

[SirCakez]

who am i kidding, you're probably gonna end up next to Uberninja

Is this an insult or a compliment

[SirCakez]

these flavor arguments are fucking dumb
nobody should be basing any read on anybody's flavor claim

Pretty town
===========
bork

Can you talk about this one because Bork has not shown up at all for me yet.

This is entirely a reaction to Mini Normal 2181. Bork's initial play that game was extremely careful, and I wound up catching him testing me for a potential weak link rather than genuinely hunting. In later stages of the game, he was clearly felt positionally paralyzed, played extremely scared, and blatantly had no idea what to do.

This game he's been a lot less worried about specifically where he's at and what he should do next and a lot more off-the-cuff. He's still taking down other people's reasoning when he feels it appropriate but it's no longer blatantly testing for a place that's safe to stand. The questions have actual hunting incentive and he hasn't been nearly as afraid about who to go after and when.

ie. Very subjective meta read.

I haven't read that game but I am not seeing that lack of paralysis. He still seems quite cautious.

@Kitty+Cakez I don’t think either of you are scum and Cakez is who scum wanna miselim? Can we compromise on Titus or Mastina flash wagons? Lots of people want Titus but no one is voting there.

Not super interested in either of those atm vs Pooky or Dunn wagons.

[SirCakez]

these flavor arguments are fucking dumb
nobody should be basing any read on anybody's flavor claim

Pretty town
===========
bork

Can you talk about this one because Bork has not shown up at all for me yet.

This is entirely a reaction to Mini Normal 2181. Bork's initial play that game was extremely careful, and I wound up catching him testing me for a potential weak link rather than genuinely hunting. In later stages of the game, he was clearly felt positionally paralyzed, played extremely scared, and blatantly had no idea what to do.

This game he's been a lot less worried about specifically where he's at and what he should do next and a lot more off-the-cuff. He's still taking down other people's reasoning when he feels it appropriate but it's no longer blatantly testing for a place that's safe to stand. The questions have actual hunting incentive and he hasn't been nearly as afraid about who to go after and when.

ie. Very subjective meta read.

I haven't read that game but I am not seeing that lack of paralysis. He still seems quite cautious.

@Kitty+Cakez I don’t think either of you are scum and Cakez is who scum wanna miselim? Can we compromise on Titus or Mastina flash wagons? Lots of people want Titus but no one is voting there.

Not super interested in either of those atm vs Pooky or Dunn wagons.

Pooky would be like elimming the moderator.

You can try it all you want but I think there’s like no interest there.

Then push Dunn if you don’t want my suggestions of Titus or Mastina. Do something with a chance of happening or at least sell a case if you really want Pooky.

How can you say there is no interest in Pooky?

[SirCakez]

fine let's do this
VOTE: Titus

[SirCakez]

pooky's BLOOD needs to be fed to the blood gods by day three

[SirCakez]

LLD why so sure Dunn is town?

[SirCakez]

My reads ain't moving much.

I would rethink Spiffeh, Cakez, he's either town or this is scum him on a good day I guess.

@Bm, Why do you want more reads lists?

why?

[SirCakez]

I want to see what SorCakez does with the meta request he made of Prism.

I was going to dig through them to see if his scum game is like this one but I haven't gotten to it

[SirCakez]

I want to see what SorCakez does with the meta request he made of Prism.

I was going to dig through them to see if his scum game is like this one but I haven't gotten to it

Well, why not do it now? You asked for it, so you should do it. Give me a strong conclusion.

Because my brain is exhausted by my first week of classes

[SirCakez]

It's like in that Legends game when I kept promising the (accurate) Agar case
It just takes like 20-30 minutes of strong brain mode and my brain is not in strong brain mode today..
This weekend perhaps

[SirCakez]

This game started at a terrible time for me

[SirCakez]

That's why I had to start skimming earlier my head was literally pounding while I was trying to read through all this dense content and eventually I had to go fuck it

[SirCakez]

cuz he's not actually interested

its fake busywork

Also this is trash I have never used this tactic as scum and I never will because I'm a lazy fucker

[SirCakez]

I can probably track down the quotes of other players who have said you're not north of null, too.

Please do (they don't exist)

[SirCakez]

Also this is trash I have never used this tactic as scum and I never will because I'm a lazy fucker

lol self-meta

Ok then you meta me idc you'll get the same result

[SirCakez]

Depends on how you feel about UN.

I don't know who that is
Maybe I don't want to

[SirCakez]

I do scumread Cakez

Literally just earlier today you said I was never scum

[SirCakez]

Bork flavor argument is useless do something productive

[SirCakez]

@Bork, what are your thoughts on stuff?

stuff that you particularly commented on here, off the cuff:

Game is starting to get a little drowned out by non-AI chest thumping but:

Still think Math is town; what do you mean by "Trollish" - reading this as more "I'm continually slighted by LLD; what can I even do here?" and am not bothered by it
I actually like everything from Dunn 1125+
Agree w/ Prism town and don't really see anything that suggests otherwise in that body of work. Whatever, Prism could probably run circles around me if they wanted but I'm just not seeing the angles of attack that some others are making; seems breadth focused, analytic, bristly when attacked for the wrong reasons, pretty much everything I saw in 2181.
I think Cakez is town?; I noted that he called out Prism's read on me in particular as something that he disagreed with, but had me in null, and was looking for another spot where he and Prism differed in a more profound way and couldn't really find one. is poking at stones mostly ignored by others.
Don't really like anything Mastina has posted so far, esp wrt that flavor angle
Don't like any of Titus' voting patterns esp wrt Mathblade.
Don't really like Battle Mage's stance around Titus and Math or Dunn.

This post is better then anything else in borks iso

[SirCakez]

Claiming VT.

Don't care if I get yeeted. This game is a town loss. There's no cohesion or ability to get it thanks to the stupid post restriction.

You have my solve. See you in 1-2 months.

hi scum Titus
she doesn't vomit this defeatist delusional crap as town
I'm sorry she is not feeling well right now but that does not make her town

Titus is sort of scummy but IDK

And this is how buddies talk about each other at this point where an elim is likely but not inevitable.

unlike spiffeh who eventually seems to have finally rolled town

still not seeing this
he's not blatantly scummy but the town vibes are very nonexistent there

[SirCakez]

Cakez that was such a great post until the very end, I agree with the Titus point specifically.

You really fucked it up with your last statement though

Sorry bruv
If you're town hopefully I will see it soon <3

[SirCakez]

reading
I am going to be EXTREMELY BUSY for the next ~10 days so my posting will be infrequent

[SirCakez]

I think her early posts addressing MathBlade directly seemed Town. Even mentioning policy limming didn't bother me, I perceived it as her trying to get Mathblade's head out of his ass. I also think Titus' early interactions with LLD lean way more Town than Scum.

Someone else talked about this but I think this is actually scummy Spiff. She was practically egging him on at certain points.

1304 is the towniest post in the game, from anyone. The fact that MathBlade is a contender to be limmed today is a travesty.

If I am alive (probably will be) then we can focus on Dunn tomorrow.

I actually thought it over what LLD is doing and I am not sure she has a choice. I think her messing up the gender may be a clue. I think the artifact is making her push me. In the show when a person was whammied with the comb they started talking strange. Lemme check something in thread after work.

This is the moment I went from "Maybe if I sit down and REALLY think about MathBlade for a few hours, I can understand him for alignment" into "I will never in a million years understand this slot"

This is actually the single most insane post I have ever read in a mafia game

indeed
lol

Town: {Bell, sangres, Tammy, Mathblade, Kitty Trauma Team}
Townlean: {SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Prism, LLD*}
Null: {Pooky, mastina, Titus, GreyICE}
Scumlean: {quiet, Battle Mage}
Scum: {Dunnstral}

*If LLD is mason, she's obviously confirmed town. This is where she is in the reads list if she's lying about the mason claim. Because apparently that's a thing.

Random thoughts:
I made this reads list a little top heavy; I'm open to reevaluating my Town reads down the line but I feel good about a lot of people and I wanted my reads list to reflect that. If I were being conservative I'd probably put KTT in Townlean and bork, Prism, and LLD in null.

To elaborate a little bit on the Mathblade read, I felt from the beginning that there's no reason for Mathblade to thrust himself into the limelight during the Prism Flavor Saga (which is a good title for a fantasy book series). When met with a ton of pressure after his flavor arguments, and declared the lim for the Day by the claimed mason, he doesn't back down, which tells me he's anything BUT survivalistic as a lot of people are trying to characterize him (this is probably the first place I'm going to look for scum in the event Mathblade is mislimmed, btw). I find myself agreeing with a lot of his later posts, such as his reach out to KTT and SirCakez as TvT (although he seems to be back on the Cakez is scum train?), and his recent exchanges with Titus always leave me questioning Titus and completely understanding where Mathblade is coming from. I already cited 1304 as a the towniest post in the game and I stand by that an hour and a half later.

KTT wins most improved: From humble beginnings as an early scum lean, they have catapulted themselves to one of the top spots in my town pool thanks to both heads' recent posting.

Cakez feels natural and isn't trying too hard to be a badass so he's probably Town.

I almost put GreyICE in the scum lean category, I didn't like his first several posts where he emphasized how he didn't care about the Morning phase, and I don't like how the majority of his content is wrapped up in picking apart mastina's walls. These interactions with mastina don't really fit with the rest of his play style this game. Like cool we can all find some shit wrong with mastina's posts in every game she plays, regardless of her alignment. I felt, and still kinda feel, that getting into a back and forth with mastina of all people would be easy for scum to do because it makes a big show of "scumhunting" when it doesn't really accomplish anything. But then I remembered his first post where he immediately checks mastina's ISO for a scum read, so there is precedence for his focus on mastina. And I seem to recall GreyICE pretending to give a shit every time I've seen him as scum, and his early posts don't really point to that. So all of this cancels out into a null read, congrats. Be more readable pls

I hated Battle Mage's vote on Mathblade, he had a previously stated town read on him and his justification for the 180 in the read was that Mathblade was being survivalistic which I already explained is like the exact opposite way I would characterize Math's behavior. He also had a post that rubbed me the wrong way about SirCakez having a great scum game, which to me seemed to fuel the fire of the ongoing Cakez paranoia at the time without really contributing his thoughts on Cakez in a meaningful way? Felt like scum taking a potshot from the sidelines. And while I was Scum in both Xenoblade and Pooky vs. FL (I sound like a broken record) I thought Battle Mage was super obviously Town in both those games and I don't get those vibes here. But I also didn't give a fuck about reading him in those games so take that with a grain of salt.

here is the Spiff content I enjoy

[SirCakez]

I completely agree with the rest of your townreads/townleans though I think SC might be lower

you keep taking these potshots at me. are you actually gonna reeval me or just keep saying "hmm he could be scum not sure"

sangres (hydra of fferyllt and Nachomamma8) - Null (their reachout sole reason
2. Tammy - gtmh scum, nothing done since midmorning
3. borkjerfkin - gtmh town
4. SirCakez - scum
5. Kitty Trauma Team (hydra of Malakittens and kuribo) - town
6. Lady Lambdadelta - can go eat rocks, anti-town
7. mastina - gtmh null
8. Bell - town
9. Spiffeh - lean town, could be whitenighting
10. GreyICE* - gtmh town
11. PookyTheMagicalBear - town
12. Titus
13. MathBlade - needs death
14. quiet - lurker scum
15. Prism - meh
16. Dunnstral - sheeping this from Spiffeh so scum
17. Battle Mage - town

this readslist is truly terrible
she has one real scumread (me), a LHF universal scumread (quiet), a sheep SR, and then whatever the hell those reads on Tammy and Math are
also like LLD said she has been pretty restrained and cooperative this game so calling her antitown is just ridiculou

I EAT AND FART TOWNVIBES

~M

@mala you should sig this

[SirCakez]

I am beginning to wonder if quiet was just overwhelmed by this game and flaked as opposed to him being scum lurking pre-replace out
I don't like how everyone just sort of shoved him into their SRs

[SirCakez]

Battle Mage went V/LA right? He does feel less present then normal atm but I felt his early game was transparently town.
I'd rather just stay on course with Titus anyways. I think we've got her dead to rights.

Hi I would like to say I love literally everyone in this playerlist and hope they are doing well

I have never been more excited with a playerlist on this website than I am with this one, and am glad to be playing with all of you <3

I hope everyone that is scum gets limmed tho

Spiffeh man this post is terrible even if you were drunk/high like I'm guessing

[SirCakez]

revised
I'm also moving KTT up a little bit because I liked that recent stream-of-consciousness post Kuribo (I think?) made
I think I might have mole/deepwolf scum in my "don't want to yeet" pool

want to yeet: Titus, Dunn, Pooky
would yeet: mastina
considering yeeting but would not yeet atm: Spiffeh, KTT
idk: GreyIce, Bork, Quiet
don't want to yeet: sangres, Tammy, BM, Math, Bell
never yeet: Prism, LLD

[SirCakez]

I have kinda been giving Tammy a pass here because of the disaster in Popcorn Mafia
Sangres is just tough for me to read; ffery always seems insanely town to me

[SirCakez]

For some reason I thought we had more together
Well then let's say in our games together I always find you to be town

[SirCakez]

I will do that meta dive soon.tm

[SirCakez]

It's not really that I think anything quiet did was especially townie
I just find it odd how he ran straight to the bottom of everyone's readslists
Feels very LHF

[SirCakez]

The reason I'm meh on Titus elim is because I'm just not convinced that this is scum, I don't have anything other than their sort of weird play.

What does this even mean

[SirCakez]

The only reason I'd vote Math at this point is to help clear up the gamestate
I think he continues to make bad post after bad post and I just don't think it's scum play at all

[SirCakez]

I'm not as sure on quiet scum but SirCakez is definitely deflecting attention away from a slot under no pressure. It also likely won't be made to catch up either. So why does Cakez need to defend quiet?

I made those posts in response to seeing quiet in Prism and someone else's (I forget who) yeet piles.

[SirCakez]

My feelings on Bork can be summarized as a blank face.

Same

[SirCakez]

By "bad" i meant illogical and surface level scummy

[SirCakez]

I find them excellent posts and I am probably dead tomorrow anyway.

Like this for example
Yeah a lot of people SR you but you're acting like you are doomed when that is definitely not true

[SirCakez]

I find them excellent posts and I am probably dead tomorrow anyway.

Like this for example
Yeah a lot of people SR you but you're acting like you are doomed when that is definitely not true

Dude, I have a claimed mason claiming I will be vigged and Lucretia’s comb is out.

Very likely I die.

If I don’t I am surprised.

Nobody knows what the comb does.
LLD spouts random stuff like vig demands all the time it doesn't mean anything.

By "bad" i meant illogical and surface level scummy

Still vapid. What is illogical? What is scummy?

For example, take this "i am doomed" posting you are doing. You are letting things get you panicked. Logically you are not doomed here.
If I didn't know you better I'd call it scum AtE, this surface level scummy.

@Cakez, Why the switch on the quiet read?

I already explained this. I saw quiet going into some yeetpools and reevaluated.

[SirCakez]

I already explained this. I saw quiet going into some yeetpools and reevaluated.

Except you never said anything about quiet at all. You had quiet in your yeet pool for many of the same reasons that you're now objecting to. You don't mention which slots caused you to reevaluate.

It reeks more of trying to buy a scumpartner space on subbing in.

I know one was Prism, i have to go back and look at who else was doing it but I'm on my phone so can't do rn.
I did have quiet in my yeet pool earlier, before they flaked. The flaking is key.

[SirCakez]

@Dunstrall, Bork. Yeet targets?

I'm waiting on Nacho. TBH.
I am losing convinction on MB scum.

Town block RN is just Sangres, Spiffeh, LLD today. Which isn't good enough based on my experience in Tenet. If I want to win through PoE I need to solve faster tbh.

SirCakez, Mathblade, Spiffeh, Titus

That's where I'm at

Quiet slot can live to day 2 while we get somebody else - right now I think it's likely scum as well

Help me bus Titus then

scumread-with-a-conditional-locktown-condition scumread lockscum.

what the fuck?

Bell, I do not follow and your townread is tanking fast.
Let’s take a look at what you’re saying but instead of Mastina replace it with scumread

Because a scumread’s view point is such that she is asking that I trust the scumread in a game of mafia using an appeal to authority. The scumread’s view is narrow.

Of course scumread’s view is narrow definitionally, they’re scum. So try again, why Mastina over Titus? When scum Mastina wants to be elimmed over Titus?

This is exactly what happened in Boonskiies that I took advantage of as scum. I manipulated the RA hydra into continuing to push Angel to the point Angel scum claimed (as town) to protect sequence. At best Mastina is deluded town here. At worst she’s scum who wants Titus alive. Her reads are crap and her mechanics are crap and LLD’s take her list and flip it upside down is better than right side up imho (exception LLD obvi)

my problem with Mastina is I have learned the hard way that her batshit insane reads and logic don't necessarily mean she is scum (I fell for it so hard in Doubles Mafia)
I think certain things she is saying are scum pinging but I'm not that confident

[SirCakez]

why does GreyICE vanish whenever LLD is not being discussed?

[SirCakez]

Cakez, can we talk more about your Titus read? What makes you so confident in having her dead to rights? I see the delusional stuff in 1391, I'm not as familiar with Titus but I absolutely buy it, and I don't see as many issues with the reads wall as you do in 1568. In particular, I think her stances on Tammy, mastina, and the lack of stronger scumreads besides yourself are really questionable as scum. These also largely match up to what I saw from her thinking in her ISO.

This does remind me that I should reread her specifically to check out the progression on you.

ok so I have quite a bit of experience with Titus, most recently in BooneyToonz game where I won as scum by getting her misyeeted
when she is town and under pressure she doesn't react the way she is reacting here. she does not get this defensive for sure.
as well she takes stronger stances as town then the stuff she is offering up here. her SR on me seems incredibly fake by her standards, from my PoV it is completely wrapped around this meta I didn't do which I don't think town!Titus uses as enough of a reason for her top SR. it seems like she is grasping at straws because she does not have something better to offer up.

[SirCakez]

also fucking scumbear has gone MIA
I didn't forget about you Pooky, you're next after we dispose of your scumqueen Titus

[SirCakez]

I'll help yeet Mastina if we can't force Titus

[SirCakez]

I do think scum want to miselim me this game, I was right about this in the recent Popcorn Mafia
historically people on this site love to miselim me and the pool of people on my ass (dunn, titus, mastina, pooky) is definitely infested with scum

@Prism, Sir Cakez' received some critique of his scum game in the Among Us large theme post game, and I understand that he applied it in the Booneytoonz game. Long story short, he's always tended to bus too easily. He worked on that in the BoonyToonz game. I'm not firing on all cylinders atm but I don't ~think~ his behavior around his partners was a big factor in what you were comparing from Xeno to here, but maybe I missed it. Here's his booneytoonz ISO. I'll take a closer look at this tomorrow. It seems like something that would be more useful to consider on Day 2, though his day 1 positioning on Noraa in Xeno looked scummy and also highlighted her as a likely partner.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12507107

I will :thumbs-up: this
I don't think my scum game in Xeno is really too relevant anymore because I feel I have significantly improved since then with advice from a lot of people (including scum god Cabd and a bunch of people postgame in Among Us) and a lot of experience in three scum large theme games in a row

This also has none of the hallmarks of a Titus town game
1) No attempt to townblock
2) No attempt to pick apart mechanics
3) No attempt to lead
4) No shotgun poke everything and it’s sibling.

None of that.
Instead she’s said “woe is me” and Math don’t post.
Which is very indicative of scum!Titus hating what I am posting versus anything Townie

I think this is a pretty good reflection of what I'm feeling about Titus @Prism
And Mathblade knows her much better than I do

[SirCakez]

I have changed my mind on KTT I think they are town and I'm just annoyed Kuribo won't fuck off to actual scum

[SirCakez]

HEY CAKEZ

1V1 STILL STANDS

ok I know I just said I TRed you but I will fight you anyways
BLOOD GOD IS HERE
AND HES REAL HUNGRY

[SirCakez]

everyone

first off
who the fuck is everyone?
the four members of the scum team probably and you
how does it feel voting with a bunch of scum huh?

[SirCakez]

I initially liked that he was concerned about the quiet issue and being in everyone's poe/bronze piles, but looking back Cakez had quiet in his would bronze list. He didn't like quiet's position on Mathblade the way quiet danced around mathblade but didn't take a position. He then got worried about his activity vs. booneytoonz. He then starts calling quiet a LHF bronze when criticizing mastina's reads list and finds it odd that everyone else had that scum read too. When Titus calls him out on it, he says he made the post in response to seeing quiet in Prism and someone else's bronze piles. But here's where that loses me. Prism is a never bronze for Cakez, so why does quiet being in his super strong town read's list make him nervous? And he doesn't do anything with the other one, he says he'll have to go back and look. He mentions that he also had him on his bronze list until it seemed clear he flaked and the flaking is the key there. I guess I just don't really get that point or why he didn't show any concern about who he thinks is sticking quiet in their bronze pool as LHF.

My point with this wasn't that scum were specifically trying to misyeet Quiet
I was saying that I think we were just looking in the wrong place with him
At the time I made that post Quiet had come up as a potential elim for the day and that's roughly when I reconsidered
I had him in my elim pool earlier before he flaked. The replace out is key; it indicates that he was not lurking, but legitimately just had something else going or couldn't handle the game

[SirCakez]

also fucking scumbear has gone MIA
I didn't forget about you Pooky, you're next after we dispose of your scumqueen Titus

cakeboi

not a single post you have made this entire game makes me think you actually believe I am scum.

it's comical at this point.

Wow I beetlejuiced you into the thread
strange how that works

I have a predisposition towards scumreading Titus

I didn't know this

[SirCakez]

pooky after we are done with titus/mastina/whoever today
tomorrow I am going to absolutely bury you in an unending onslaught of destruction
you will die tomorrow and there's nothing you can do about it

[SirCakez]

all Pooky talks about is how scummy I am and he's not even voting me LMAO

[SirCakez]

leashing is a great excuse to not take responsibility for your vote

[SirCakez]

math that's just straight OMGUS

[SirCakez]

I'm not gonna bother writing a case when day is nearly over and no one else has expressed interest in elimming you because your fucking scum buddies have pointed interest elsewhere
When have I EVER worried about being shot at night LMAO
I HAVEN'T BEEN SHOT AT NIGHT IN LITERALLY YEARS
AND WHY WOULD I TRY TO FORCE AN ELIM ON YOU WHEN ANOTHER TOP SR OF MINE ACTUALLY HAS A WAGON ON THEM

[SirCakez]

Pooky has NO fucking idea what my town play is like and yet he professes to know exactly what """town!Cakez""" would be doing here
it's asinine

[SirCakez]

you are playing exactly like you did in Tenet, where you pretty much only survived because of bad town play and your scum team protecting you
you have done jackshit this whole game and gotten away with it and it's disgusting

[SirCakez]

Pooky's logic - "hmmm there is a wagon on cakez strong SR and no wagon on another strong SR of his - why isn't he casing the other strong SR and moving the wagon???"
terrible

[SirCakez]

I'm not gonna bother writing a case when day is nearly over and no one else has expressed interest in elimming you because your fucking scum buddies have pointed interest elsewhere
When have I EVER worried about being shot at night LMAO
I HAVEN'T BEEN SHOT AT NIGHT IN LITERALLY YEARS
AND WHY WOULD I TRY TO FORCE AN ELIM ON YOU WHEN ANOTHER TOP SR OF MINE ACTUALLY HAS A WAGON ON THEM

are you trolling right now.

this pooky suspicion isn't something you came up with just at the end of the day

you've been throwing shade at me the entire game.

0 people have agreed with you.

some people TR me

your response to this isn't to case me or pound table or get more conviction

its just more bullshit 0 substance shade

that ain't a town reaction to your read getting shit on buddy.

why would I give a fuck about my SR shitting on my SR on them LOL

[SirCakez]

who the fuck TRs you

[SirCakez]

look at how Pooky has only now showed up with content despite being absent and coasting basically the entire day phase
ALL because I dredged his name up as a scumspect close to EoD

[SirCakez]

Pooky's logic - "hmmm there is a wagon on cakez strong SR and no wagon on another strong SR of his - why isn't he casing the other strong SR and moving the wagon???"
terrible

yea why would cakes case the person he is sure is scum but nobody else is seeing as scum

gee I wonder why town!cake would do that.

gee

gee

a real headscratcher that one.

nice misrep of my comment
you're really trying here huh?

[SirCakez]

I have not been this pissed off by a post in a loooong time

[SirCakez]

look at how Pooky has only now showed up with content despite being absent and coasting basically the entire day phase
ALL because I dredged his name up as a scumspect close to EoD

you would say this regardless of when I decide to actually show up.

its disingenuous and stupid.

also maybe I showed up because its 11 hours to deadline and I don't have the fear of wasting too many posts since we are on a post limit and something I actually am interested in discussing popped up.

Maybe it's that.

there's no fucking way it's a coincidence you rolled in within an hour of me calling you scum and then immediately started pushing me too

[SirCakez]

who the fuck TRs you

are you even reading the same fucking game

this is not an answer this is a scum dodge

[SirCakez]

there's no fucking way it's a coincidence you rolled in within an hour of me calling you scum and then immediately started pushing me too

ROFL YOU HAVE BEEN CALLING ME SCUM THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME YOU CLOWN

I ONLY HAVENT REACTED BECAUSE I DIDNT WANT TO WASTE ANY POSTS ON THIS SHIT FIGHT WHEN I AM LEASHED AND WE ARE POST LIMITED

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN SCUMBEAR
"not wasting posts" fucking BULLSHIT since when have you cared about that??

[SirCakez]

this is not an answer this is a scum dodge

ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO DIE ON THE HILL THAT NOBODY IS TRING POOKY

DO I NEED TO ACTUALLY QUOTE SOME TRS TO CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU ARE LIVING IN AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE

it must be hard to be this desperate to be right

[SirCakez]

pooky right now desperately digging through the first 10 pages to find any post where someone might have mentioned he was vaguely townie LOL

[SirCakez]

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN SCUMBEAR
"not wasting posts" fucking BULLSHIT since when have you cared about that??

I've obviously been extremely restrained in my shitposting lol.

my goal was to come in under 125 posts since that is the allotment per player - I was at 110 before logging in today.

I am deciding to go over the limit since the deadline is 11 hours away and we are probably not going to run out of posts to use.

I'm going to stop wasting time talking to you.

Come up with an actual case if you want to prove you are town.

Otherwise this is just feeble and pathetic.

go ahead run away scumbear
tomorrow I'll END YOU and you can't do a damn thing about it
unless you want to be the first scumteam in ages to NK me <3

[SirCakez]

I townread Pooky.

why

[SirCakez]

Fine I will bury Titus instead

[SirCakez]

Pooky townvibing with the passion here. could be TvT.

im gonna scream

[SirCakez]

TITUS

[SirCakez]

I would flashwagon Dunn at any time and Spiffeh would too
I think some others SR him too but I'd have to recheck

[SirCakez]

there is no wagon on Math really Bell

[SirCakez]

mastina is my #1 choice and I won't be swapping except to avoid a no-elim.

This reeks of omgus.

look how bad this is
titus criticizes bork for attacking people in the "townblock" then IMMEDIATELY does the same thing herself

[SirCakez]

there is no wagon on Math really Bell

Why would you flashwagon Dunn but it's a problem there's no wagon on Math?

because I want Dunn dead not Math lol

[SirCakez]

VOTE: dunn
VROOM VROOM MOTHERFUCKERS

[SirCakez]

i already said I'd do mastina but I'd like to actually hit one of my top SRs not someone who will maybe be scum

[SirCakez]

i will be here all day so i'm not worried

[SirCakez]

WHERE SPIFFEH FOR DUNN MURDER

[SirCakez]

DUNN HAS FIVE VOTES
GET YOUR ASSES ONBOARD

[SirCakez]

DUNN HAS FIVE VOTES
GET YOUR ASSES ONBOARD

Sorry, why are you against Mastina so much and want the softed PR who cannot claim for us to move their wagon in time again?

Are you sure you're town siding.

I don't understand this post

[SirCakez]

I will accept Titus or Mastina yeets

[SirCakez]

checking that VC makes me more confident KTT is probably town here - no way the whole scum team is on me

[SirCakez]

HALLLLEJUSAHAHAHAHAH

VOTE: CAKEZ KILL THIS WITH FIRE PLS

LMAO THE OVERLORD HAS GIVEN HER LITTLE SCUM PET PERMISSION TO VOTE ME

[SirCakez]

checking that VC makes me more confident KTT is probably town here - no way the whole scum team is on me

THIS IS FAKE AF

SO IS ALL OF CAKEZ ISO

JUST PULL IT UP AND IT IS DRIPPING WITH LIES

YOU CANT EVEN DO IT ALL YOU CAN DO IS TELL OTHER PEOPLE TOOOOO

[SirCakez]

LOOK POOKY LITERALLY CANNOT PUSH ME BY HIMSELF
HE NEEDS OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT FOR HIM AND THEN WHEN I FIGHT HIM HE RUNS AWAY
SCUMLORD

[SirCakez]

WATCH WHEN I FLIP TOWN POOKY WILL BLAME LLD
GUARANTEED

[SirCakez]

WATCH WHEN I FLIP TOWN POOKY WILL BLAME LLD
GUARANTEED

YOU WONT FLIP TOWN BRUUUH

fake as fuck

[SirCakez]

HES SCUM AND I CANT KILL HIM

[SirCakez]

fake as fuck

LOL YOUR FACE IS FAKE

I REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN POOKY HAD MY BACK
HE ONLY HAS FUCKING MAFIA BACKS NOW

[SirCakez]

WATCH WHEN I FLIP TOWN POOKY WILL BLAME LLD
GUARANTEED

IF I GET ELIMMED REMEMBER THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[SirCakez]

you're plastic Tammy you can't even explain how I'm posturey

[SirCakez]

triple posting one-liner insults with 0 substance what a joke

the fucking hypocrisy here
good lord

[SirCakez]

claiming because deadline
I'm Steve Jinks, Artifact Detector
Each day I can target someone and will get a list of their artifacts at EoD
I haven't used it yet because I haven't seen something to use it for yet
I was hoping to hide this and catch somebody in a lie later

[SirCakez]

WHAT A FUCKING LIE YOU KNOW THE MAFIA START WITH AN ARTIFACT AND YOU HAVENT USED THAT TO FIND MAFIA R U FUCKING KIDDING ME

yeah and they will just claim they started with it cuz obviously people other than Mafia started with it just look at Prism

[SirCakez]

oh no not the flavor crowd

[SirCakez]

can't wait to die because in some episode of some random SyFy show this Steve dude did something that was not related to artifact detection