Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Good morning guys.

Kuribo and I are getting a PT so we can talk about reads without having hydra dissonance or whatever you call it nowadays.

I have some early reads, but going to discuss it with K before I post.

I’m not really townvibing or scumvibing with Math over the flavor bombing part. This show was always a talk about subject. So the flavor for me is a null subject.

I will admit that LLD has a point with no quick back from Math regarding being engaged.

More to come.

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Mala is probably town.

An early read on me doesn’t sit right.

Nevermind it was ffery who thinks I'm town, not Nacho, back in the null pile you go.

I was gonna say

LLD thinking Nacho's posted is kinda meh. He might be around in 9ish hours or so.

If I had to vote elsewhere, it would be BM right now.

The morning-vote confusion rankles. I wouldn't expect Titus to be confused about that kind of thing.

Hi mala!

Hey Fery!

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

@sangres:

I haven’t. I’ll eleborate more after he explains the townread on me if you don’t mind

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Scum might very well want a vocal active townie with the artifact due to its downside.

But there's nothing that says the vocal townie has to use it, is there? They could simply choose to pass it along themselves. Or am I misunderstanding?


-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Is there any reason for us to think the comb is a good artifact that does good things?

I see people claiming early townreads and trying to pass it off quickly.

Objects have an ability and a downside. A downside implies an upside as well.

And the receiver can simply choose not to use it if they don't like it. Or to give it to someone else.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

But that assumes the person never wants to use it.

Think power roles with a nasty twist, not "omg this item is cursed."

Like, if I get a vig shot that makes me voteless or kills me outright, I'd probably take it and shoot the first person that asked me to pass it along

But then again I guess I'm playing for two right now so I'd at least theoretically run it by Mala before blowing somebody away.

Theoretically.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Yah, but mafia could just pass it among themselves and lie anyway

Leashing could work but it's tricky considering we don't necessarily want scum to know who has what artifacts. And considering passing isn't public knowledge. So, say, we all vote to give the comb to LLD, and we all then insist she give it to Spiffeh. If they're scum together, (and I'm using them as examples because I'm townreading them), then either the pass never occurs or they simply lie later.

Leashing adds another layer of consensus voting, (which complicates an already complicated game) but I do see an upside when it comes to mass claim later. Ie, "I have a guilty on Pooky" "bull crap, the artifact I sent you doesn't do that."

pedit: I was gonna say maybe someone who's better at mechanics than me could weigh in but I think Tammy explained where I'm at better than I could


-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I have 0 knowledge of this show and what its about

i dont even know who the bad guys are

so im definitely town

What I’m about to say may offend people or make some people upset:

But I skipped all of season 1 and went into Season 2 and I’m about 6 episodes in. I also may have cursed at one of the episodes while at work and got my coworker to chuckle at me and go “karma THATS what you get for skipping one season”

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Spoiler: “For Math”

H.G 4ever

[Kitty Trauma Team]

So I’m going to break this ice:

Because I feel bad enough.

Math can you pls explain why you got a town read on me

[Kitty Trauma Team]

https://warehouse13.fandom.com/wiki/Ang ... out_Trunks

Here’s the context.

I remember this episode!

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Going to bed. Please don’t let me wake up with 10 pages to read once I get all my stuff done for work. I just wanna be able to watch an episode or two before the citizens of my lovely town I work for decide to all call at once.

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Why are you having this meltdown less than 24 hours into the game?

Mala assured me that math having a meltdown isn't alignment indicative, more that warehouse 13 is one of maths favorite shows and so math feels strongly about the flavor

But that's immaterial to me because that isn't even close to a "meltdown"


Like, you're in a game with me, GreyICE, and LLD. And while the rules specifically say a dim view will be taken on toxicity and even excessive cursing, it's like... that's what you call a meltdown?!


That doesn't even crack the top 50,000.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Ok what's your point here? This is such a dumb thing to nitpick.

My point is that I feel like you're making mountains out of emotional molehills by calling that a meltdown, and that's a real real strong alarm bell to me.

So again, I ask you, what part of that post you quoted do you call a meltdown? Two mildly peeved posts, if even that level of annoyance is hardly a meltdown, but that's the word you used.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Why are we discussing the definition of a meltdown? Mathblade's emotions made him easier to read imo. Why care about the description?

I agree with you on that, remember, reading emotions is how I read the game.

I'm asking why Cakez felt the need to use that word in particular. Meltdown makes it sound so much messier, more charged than what it was. I mean, it's not like I recently laid out exactly why I take a second look at players who do that or noted the very real fact that it has netted me scum on a shockingly accurate basis. I could be misapplying what amounts to a personal tell that only works when the target is me, but there's only one way to fine out.

So no, we're not nitpicking over a definition. I'm not even calling Cakez scum. But here's the thing: Attempting to paint another player as more angry or volatile than they are has serious scum equity. And so I want to know: why the word meltdown? And while we're at it, I want to know if Cakez thinks Math is scum or town. Many answers to these questions would be more than satisfactory to me, but I'll tell you one that isn't: "Why do you care?"

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I have identified one (1) scum player so far

Good job Spiffeh!

I feel quite good about Prism being town but that's it for things I feel strongly about.

I'm kinda leaning town on mathblade for being for being so laser focused on the prism/bork thing. What do you think there?

I low key personally agree with you on this, but this is just me.*

*I’m not speaking for the full hydra.

I think the leashing idea is really not smart.

The only thing it does is keep things vanilla and powerless.

I am telling you elim me if you have to the plan is stupid.

Let’s assume Townread X gives an artifact and gives it to scum Y. Scum Y tells the truth we learn nothing.

Let’s assume Scumread Y gives it to Townread X. Townread truth tells we learn nothing unless scum intentionally want to force a 1v1 between those two players.

Assume it’s town and town. We learn nothing.
And assume it’s scum and scum we learn nothing.

Some artifacts will be meant to be passed I think and some kept.

Outing the plan is stupid though.

Math is likely town. I have said this before and gotten burned, so take it with a grain of salt.

Titus is this the post that’s giving you townvibes from Math, or is it more posts?

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

This is me being a swell husband and snagging this pagetop for my wife to edit in a VC tomorrow morning.

Simp! ILY tho.

Hey Titus, got something up your alley. Make a list of everyone who sussed me at the start don’t forget yourself. Who is scum there

Here

I am actually going to hold on this question. I want to see the thread flow to determine which people are scum. It's a question to answer on a reread after a day or two. I just have to do it.

Why are you assuming you get more than one day? You bemoan the fact you’re the N1 NK usually. What’s different?

Hey Titus, got something up your alley. Make a list of everyone who sussed me at the start don’t forget yourself. Who is scum there

Here

I am actually going to hold on this question. I want to see the thread flow to determine which people are scum. It's a question to answer on a reread after a day or two. I just have to do it.

Why are you assuming you get more than one day? You bemoan the fact you’re the N1 NK usually. What’s different?

A) I haven't been the NK recently. B) I doubt I am in this playerlist C) Right now the question you ask hasn't matured yet. It's one of those things where you know scum are there but it's too early to know motivations of everyone. It's the same reason VCA takes time.

Both of these posts are fair. As I was mentioning to Kuribo. Since I came back from hiatus I have only played with Titus a few times. The last time I played with her she threw herself to scum by fakeclaiming. So I feel like I may be able to read her a bit better once I can vibe with her which seems lately impossible.

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Not sure what to think of titus and interaction with math bland there :/

I think we are vibing here on this. Titus replies makes sense, but it seems like it’s placed. More or so. I think I got the wrong word here.

It’s just odd how it’s let go, but then again it’s early so I’ll just make a note and hopefully it will be addressed later on.

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

we don't care

Excuse u

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Ok what's your point here? This is such a dumb thing to nitpick.

My point is that I feel like you're making mountains out of emotional molehills by calling that a meltdown, and that's a real real strong alarm bell to me.

So again, I ask you, what part of that post you quoted do you call a meltdown? Two mildly peeved posts, if even that level of annoyance is hardly a meltdown, but that's the word you used.

-k

He was literally saying he was excited to play the game but was accepting that he was going to be elimmed after like one person attacked him. It was ridiculous.

LLD Mala Prism Bell Titus Dunn are one person. Some have stated they’ve checked out til elim phase. That’s not one person.

Here’s the thing:

Just because I agreed with LDD that you weren’t fast with a comeback does not mean I think you are scum. I just agreed with the fact she had a point there, but does not mean I’m scum reading you for it.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

But for real

I can see where it looks out of place if you're looking for that, but I do think it's a stretch to call it a scum pt post. But I could be biased because I'm still traumatized from last years TM. Math is one of my stronger town reads, and I think he's come from a place of at least trying to solve the game. Might be too over-eager, I've been there where you start seeing things everywhere.

Call it an overreaction then if it bothers you.
I think Math is town-ish actually I just think his behavior is very silly.

See now was that so hard? Isn't it easier to just answer my question instead of making me ask repeatedly? You don't have to answer that one, I'll give you that for free.

PEdit: I'd be comfortable passing it to LLD more than Prism, tbh. But I've played with LLD a ton and I feel generally confident that I can spot her scum game by day two or three. She will probably deny that, but in her heart she knows it's true.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Actually, better idea Prism

let's both rage full claim and we can kill the least townie of the two of us.

Wanna do it?

Can we not and say we did?

[Kitty Trauma Team]

You are so not deserving of that character.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I really hate you both

Thanks for making my already bad day worse.

Next time if you guys wanna pull shit like this then replace out

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I’m on mid season 2 and she’s already complexed.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Damn, LLD suggests giving BM the artifact and BM starts thirsty posting harder than prism

I've really never been a fan of power-begging. Looks super greasy every time


-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

So I slept like majority of all of Monday so I’m going to check in with K and then go from there. I’m not really too keen, personally, on elim Mathblade. I don’t really have a read on Dunn either way.

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

My Kitty Trauma Team worries are growing. I like some of what they've posted. I'm surprised mala hasn't tried to connect with us more. Nacho has some concerns, too, partly to do with kuribo. Not sure I can do them justice for him in his absence, so they can wait until Nacho's around.

Nachos just gonna have to get over it, it's not like I'm in the middle of moving and working 70 hours a week and hate being town and presently having Covid vaccine side effects like a mother or slipped last night in a puddle of dog piss and busted my bad knee. I mean obviously I'm just so active all over the site, that's why I post nightly in my NES thread. Oh no wait I haven't even had time for that in over a week.

Turns out a hydra consisting of two retired players working in Covid hotspot fields aren't the most active posters


I mean who knew

And since y'all always hate on hydras who have dissonance between them, Mala gets my reads first. Love it or don't, idgaf, imma go throw up now. Deuces.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Was skimming the thread yesterday in between calls and then having a major freak out because I didn’t have just vomit on one piece of clothing, but two after my patient decided to leave me that present.

So the whole LLD v Math v Dunn is kinda taking up majority of the thread and I think right now scum are hiding in that distraction. I have a strong townread on 2/3 of those players. Kuribo actually agrees with me on that as well. For Dunn I’m more or less reading null on him. I’m not 100% following the scum read on him, but the last time I had a decent vibe on him it turned out to be wrong.

@Fery: Part of the reason why I haven’t connected was the last game I played with a few familiar faces I got snowed really hard by them. So I’m trying to disconnect the buddying approach as it majority fucked me last game I was in.

I don’t think both twins are the same alignment. I actually happen to believe that Titus will have a decent chance at flipping scum, whereas, Math will most likely flip town.

I’m currently liking Mastina’s posting. She can go in my townbin for now.

VOTE: SirCakez

Kuribo has a gut feeling that this slot is prob scum. I have to agree with it. Between the whole trying to paint a picture with the whole wording over a “meltdown” that wasn’t really a “meltdown”.

Even tho I been at work for an hour I’m not fully awake so give me a bit of time to let my antimurder juice kick in and I’ll try to post something more of a better read list

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I'd be interested to hear why Kitty Trauma Team is actually town to people, the angles they're taking are insanely safe as scum, not at all difficult to fake, and the constant hedging/Cakez progression bother me.

I'll get to Bell/LLD comments later btw have just been trying to focus on reading, OKAY BE BACK LATER GOTTA STOP BURNING POSTS ON ONE LINERS

I wasn't hedging anything you illiterate fuck, I applied a tell, I wasn't sure if it was applicable because I haven't used it that way before and I said so right here in the thread

Don't fucking come at me when I got a fever of 101

If you think this is my scum game at all, I got oceanfront property in Idaho to sell you


I didn't even want to be in this game, Mala talked me into it so back the fuck off till I feel better.

God dammit look what you made me do


I hate everything about this site

[Kitty Trauma Team]

My scum reads are Cakez, Prism, Titus

Town reads are Math, LLD, probably GreyICE

Now leave me the fuck alone, last warning

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kuribo is going to be out of commission until he feels better. He’ll be keeping me updated, but I want him to focus on feeling better.

@Prism: I was in between whether or not you were town/scum from when you and Math were first being engaged. I dead set agree with Math that you kept saying that your claim would show you are super town, but in terms of flavor it doesn’t. The enough information/episodes I watched I have to agree that H.G. wells wouldn’t start off with that artifact.

I also know P_A/Cabd enough that they wouldn’t let a game get broken via flavor.

Right now my personal reads (outside of Kuribo’s) are more vibes than actual cases. I have a really bad feeling regarding Titus/Prism/SirCakez.
I do think LLD/Math are likely to flip town. I have a feeling that Tammy/Mastina are town. I do have a feeling sangres might be town* (*this may change depending on how Prism flips)
I really didn’t like Bells/Dunn/BM beginning posts.

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Maybe she’s going for the too scummy to be scum approach

On that note I started writing such a detailed post to Fery and then my iPad died during the middle of it and i lost it all.

FML

[Kitty Trauma Team]

My Kitty Trauma Team worries are growing. I like some of what they've posted. I'm surprised mala hasn't tried to connect with us more. Nacho has some concerns, too, partly to do with kuribo. Not sure I can do them justice for him in his absence, so they can wait until Nacho's around.

Nachos just gonna have to get over it, it's not like I'm in the middle of moving and working 70 hours a week and hate being town and presently having Covid vaccine side effects like a mother or slipped last night in a puddle of dog piss and busted my bad knee. I mean obviously I'm just so active all over the site, that's why I post nightly in my NES thread. Oh no wait I haven't even had time for that in over a week.

Turns out a hydra consisting of two retired players working in Covid hotspot fields aren't the most active posters


I mean who knew

And since y'all always hate on hydras who have dissonance between them, Mala gets my reads first. Love it or don't, idgaf, imma go throw up now. Deuces.

I'm sorry things aren't going great and I'll try to factor in your and Mala's time constraints. I'm not trying to piss you off. I'm trying to read you. We both have to read you guys somehow or other, based on what you post.

Personally, I don't get worked up about dissonance as long is I can see that the individual reads are internally consistent.

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Was skimming the thread yesterday in between calls and then having a major freak out because I didn’t have just vomit on one piece of clothing, but two after my patient decided to leave me that present.

So the whole LLD v Math v Dunn is kinda taking up majority of the thread and I think right now scum are hiding in that distraction. I have a strong townread on 2/3 of those players. Kuribo actually agrees with me on that as well. For Dunn I’m more or less reading null on him. I’m not 100% following the scum read on him, but the last time I had a decent vibe on him it turned out to be wrong.

Who do you think is hiding in the distraction?

@Fery: Part of the reason why I haven’t connected was the last game I played with a few familiar faces I got snowed really hard by them. So I’m trying to disconnect the buddying approach as it majority fucked me last game I was in.

How does your non-buddying approach work? I'm really not sure how to go about reading 2021-Mala.

I don’t think both twins are the same alignment. I actually happen to believe that Titus will have a decent chance at flipping scum, whereas, Math will most likely flip town.

This is a point of agreement.

I’m currently liking Mastina’s posting. She can go in my townbin for now.

What is it you like about Mastina's posting?

VOTE: SirCakez

Kuribo has a gut feeling that this slot is prob scum. I have to agree with it. Between the whole trying to paint a picture with the whole wording over a “meltdown” that wasn’t really a “meltdown”.

Even tho I been at work for an hour I’m not fully awake so give me a bit of time to let my antimurder juice kick in and I’ll try to post something more of a better read list

-M

That's an interesting trajectory. Am I getting tangled up in dissonance?

I have been trying to personally use work less as an excuse during games, but I have been learning to balance it a bit more since coming back to the site.

To answer your question regarding the distraction: I noticed a bit of a pattern we had a mixture of different people posting and then the type of content that were being posted.

I had liked how Math engaged Prism during the morning, but things went south when LLD got into the mixture and then it just went up in a fiery blaze — just like my call today.

We had people who I noticed who were trying to sort out reads in addition to trying to get a hand on the artifact during the morning. (Tammy/Sangres/Math/LLD) Then we had the players that posted, but their content to say the least I would describe as a mixture of “one liners/trolly/buddy-buddy”.(Bell, BM, SirCakez, Pooky) then we had a few players who posted no content at all such as prod-dodges or those who barely posted at all. (Dunn, Mastina, GreyICE, Bork).

Those players who weren’t in the whole trying to sort players out kinda got to stay in the shadows as you would call it. I think personally a lot of people just started to go with the flow and was like let’s vote Math D1, which then obviously got stronger once LLD claimed.

I haven’t really gotten a handle on my play style anymore because I feel like I’m so rusty with mafia that before Hiatus I was terrible and then when I came back I’m even worse. I have really only played maybe four games and only one was scum and that game I felt like I did better, but that’s because I was able to hide a bit during the player list. I just know I got wrapped up in my last game I played as town and got distracted and didn’t sort the “older” players because I tried too hard to sort the newer and got snowed really hard. I kinda brushed off the older players.

Along with the fact since coming back from Hiatus I barely remember any meta, or meta-tells on players are now gone or at least evolved from when I was last active.

I know I’ll need more solid proof, but the last time I played with Titus she turned out to be town and I feel like she’s 180 here currently. She hasn’t really even acknowledged my present/tried to sort me like she would in past games. Then again I don’t know if we have a personal disconnect going here or maybe I just feel like there might be.

I think it’s because I’m finding myself agreeing with a lot of Mastina’s posting. I’ll do a separate post with quotes for you.

Your slot is getting tangled up in dissonance. Kuribo has a theory regarding your slot, but we need a flip or two in order for him to flesh it out. So it’s really hard to explain because it’s so early with no flips in order to do it. I actually happen to be okay with your posts or at least I’m not finding anything red-flaggish. So we have a conflict here.

-M

This was originally better, but then when my iPad died I lost the whole entire post and I’m kinda brain dead and exhausted from the whole day.

Spoiler: “This is why I didn’t post today”

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Ok maybe it was only post 932 that I liked in regards to Mastina. >>

I guess if I were to actually flesh out her posts they are underwhelming to say the least

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kuribo is going to be out of commission until he feels better. He’ll be keeping me updated, but I want him to focus on feeling better.

@Prism: I was in between whether or not you were town/scum from when you and Math were first being engaged. I dead set agree with Math that you kept saying that your claim would show you are super town, but in terms of flavor it doesn’t. The enough information/episodes I watched I have to agree that H.G. wells wouldn’t start off with that artifact.

I also know P_A/Cabd enough that they wouldn’t let a game get broken via flavor.

Right now my personal reads (outside of Kuribo’s) are more vibes than actual cases. I have a really bad feeling regarding Titus/Prism/SirCakez.
I do think LLD/Math are likely to flip town. I have a feeling that Tammy/Mastina are town. I do have a feeling sangres might be town* (*this may change depending on how Prism flips)
I really didn’t like Bells/Dunn/BM beginning posts.

-M

I think you’re missing my point.

I think this doesn’t make sense for town prism and scum prism (which necessitates scum Bork and sorts itself out)

The powers claimed kinda confirms LLD as mason much as I tried to avoid that so LLD likely doesn’t get shot. Hence the winkies as I was being sarcastic and hoping people doubted LLD as a mason not to run her up but to avoid being shot.

I think yes the powers are scum utility but scum Prism just doesn’t out that and confirm LLD and another player without a serious game plan. Prism’s plan was flawed but I think it’s so flawed it can’t be scum.

Okay now that I can somewhat focus.

It doesn’t make sense for either alignment. I was actually half thinking a traitor role for Prism which would actually make sense for HG flavor.

I knew what you were doing with the winks in regards to LLD.

Then again the way prism has gone about this game is all types of odd. I don’t really see how scum-Prism does this, but again I don’t see how town-Prism does it either.

I just don’t want us to say okay its so flawed it can’t be scum and then she flips scum after all of it.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kitty is on the fence
Tammy townreads me
Mala is townreading me/on the fence

lol what

mala is one half of kitty, and i've been very clearly townreading you both here, in our private kitty trauma ward, and on snapchat for probably longer than mala

real weird to call that on the fence when i just called you one of my strongest town reads but okay

Kitty slot lives to day 2 because I don't believe Kuribo makes that post as scum.

Not that he is incapable of doing it, Kuribo is definitely skilled enough.

and not that Kuribo couldn't do that as a neutral non-alignment response in any game if they were having a hard day

but in this game with this circumstance and being in a hydra with Mala, I just don't see Kuribo making that post because he has to know it makes him look worse and cedes a ton of his ability to live to players like me.

And I'll jump on that shit. having a bad day? don't care, lemme push you and see if you squirm the way scum does.

and Kuribo knows it.

So IDK, they live to day 2 not buying that shit from Kuribo scum this specific game

blah blah blah blah blah, not a single game has ever gone by where you didn't misread me (either intentionally as scum yourself, or just because you can't read me) and call me scum, and in fact i'm pretty sure every time you've ever done it as scum, I got you voted off instead

and if you think i'm gonna squirm in a game i have no investment in, then i guess you've lost a step or two


on a more personal note, LLD, i like you as a person. I really do. but holy shit, you are forever exhausting to play with. I think this'll be our last game together.

i just can't deal with you trying to pick fights with me just because you can't fucking read me. every game we play together you tunnel me, either because you're scum or because you're just this hyperaggressive maniac who doesn't know how to actually play. and the fun thing is, i don't have to deal with that.

and my play style doesn't revolve around you, i'll post whatever I want, whenever I want, you can either like it or don't. i'm not afraid of you because i'm just not going to engage you and if you mislynch me then oh fucking well, i only came here because mala was excited about the flavor and asked me to play. i got no investment here.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Prism did a good job explaining my unease with KTT. I thought the worst thing was when Mala just sort of sheeped onto SRing me with the exact same logic as Kuribo. It felt really unnatural, like something they cooked up as their big push of the day in their hydra PT.

how weird that a person would trust their hydra partner

how weird that most of my opinion of you has to do with a gut feeling


how weird that you and my other scumread have decided to start tag teaming me


wanna 1v1?

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Prism and Cakez:

Either of you are free to bronze me today in a 1v1, but when I flip, you both go next. that's the deal. put your fucking life where your mouth is.

and LLD, while I'm posting:

on a more personal note, LLD, i like you as a person. I really do. but holy shit, you are forever exhausting to play with. I think this'll be our last game together.

this isn't meant to sway you on anything in this game, i know you well enough to know you'll think that. This is a personal statement, and I lay odds that after this game is over, long after I've flipped green, that's when it'll occur to you. Love your modding, love your posts, even love reading you in games. Can't fucking stand playing with you these days.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Yeah fight me.
Mala presented her SR of me like it was some original thought and not an agreement with you.

mala literally spent 30 hours yesterday riding in an ambulance dealing with people crashing cars into houses and throwing up on her, i spent the last 30 hours laying in bed having fever dreams

you think either of us have any semblance of consistency at this point?


but wait, did she present it as an original thought? or did we cook it up together? can't be both, genius.


Bronze us today, then your scum ass goes after we flip green. that's the deal.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kuribo um she called you not scum

no, she said she was saving me for day 2 to see if i'm gonna squirm


but i don't squirm as scum


and i don't squirm as town


and i'm not gonna squirm in a game i'm not enjoying anyway

[Kitty Trauma Team]

but wait, did she present it as an original thought? or did we cook it up together? can't be both, genius.

Yes it can...

I'm sorry you guys are having irl issues though

I don't want your sympathy.

I want your head.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Too bad I'm not gonna roll over for your scum squad

don't worry, when i put your head into the trophy case of the scum i've killed, i'll put you somewhere nice

maybe you can go next to Fate if you play respectably enough


who am i kidding, you're probably gonna end up next to Uberninja

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I don't want your sympathy.

I want your head.

that was probably uncalled for, i just really like turning phrase

thank you for the kind words, you might be a scumfuck, but at least you're a decent human

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kuribo um she called you not scum

no, she said she was saving me for day 2 to see if i'm gonna squirm


but i don't squirm as scum


and i don't squirm as town


and i'm not gonna squirm in a game i'm not enjoying anyway

Kitty slot lives to day 2 because I don't believe Kuribo makes that post as scum.

her first line says she doesn't think you make that post as scum -> she thinks you are not scum

Ah I misread the part about "not buying that from Kuribo scum" to mean "I'm not letting him get away with this"

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I'm just so used to her pretending to scum read me that it takes on a different tone I guess

[Kitty Trauma Team]

@Prism, it's not OMGUS, I could give a shit how some nobody I've never heard of reads me, least of all one I've been scum reading since pages and pages ago

I'm not asking if you're willing to flip me, I'm asking if you're ready to nut the fuck up. I've only been mis-elim'd twice in eleven years on this site. And not once since 2012 (by GreyICE no less) You willing to sacrifice your scum team to take the glory? You wanna join CKD and GI in the annals of history you are damn sure dying when I flip town. There's a fucking price scum pay when they come at me, and you and Cakez have got to learn.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

And lol you call this anger? This is my normal tone


You ain't seen shit for anger lol

[Kitty Trauma Team]

VOTE: Kitty

Someone needs to come pick up their boomer.

You're as clever as an oral bowel movement.


The die is cast. When I flip green, this and Cakez go next.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Can we like not? Please?

Too late, I can feel the old ways building in me, the murdercock thirsts.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Can you please avoid references to body functions?

If you’re going to get into a stupid 1v1 at least avoid making me dysphoric while you do it?

That's fair, I apologize


Probably need a better analogy in 2021

Would you accept the spirits of my ancestors who guide my actions as an acceptable substitute?

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Mala's either sleeping or on an ambulance

There is no Dana


There is only Zuul

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I don't make cases. I play on gut. I play on reading emotions. But since you asked nicely:

I don't like that you spent most of the early game trying to buddy people. Especially sangres early on. I first started calling you scum on Saturday February 20 at 5:46pm, to be more specific. I started thinking your enthusiasm made you town and questioned the scum read, but Mala urged me to see how it played out since it was early. She didn't quite understand the interactions between you and Tammy and I explained what I felt was the jist of it.

Me wanting to know if you knew what the artifact did, Mala answering that you seemed to indicate you did before I had a chance to ask here.

A lot is lost forever via Snapchat rather than the PT.

5:30am Wednesday I wake up with a 101 degree fever, mention this to Mala, talk about finding you and Cakez scummy, Cakez is a gut read. Call LLD and GI probably town with Math and LLD being my hardest town reads. She tells me keep trying to break the temp, I tell her yeah I'm already popping Tylenol, and I retire to my sick bed.

Your turn.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

It was a trick question, I don't negotiate with terrorists and I don't actually care what justification you try to come up with

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I'd be interested to hear why Kitty Trauma Team is actually town to people, the angles they're taking are insanely safe as scum, not at all difficult to fake, and the constant hedging/Cakez progression bother me.

I'll get to Bell/LLD comments later btw have just been trying to focus on reading, OKAY BE BACK LATER GOTTA STOP BURNING POSTS ON ONE LINERS

And by the way, you pretending I'm "hedging safe posts" or whatever is bullshit of the hugest order

I've been very clear about my reads, fuck you very much, especially with calling math town which is pretty ducking far from a safe read

[Kitty Trauma Team]

And we both agreed via snap that you choosing to wait until I'm not feeling good to come at me makes you not just scum but is greasy as hell regardless

You couldn't even wait 24 fucking hours. You thought you saw an opening so you took it

It wa never how dare you push me but how fucking dare you choose that moment, I was never going to respond nicely and I reckon one of your buddies knew that and wanted me to dive into fever fueled toxicity so the thread would decline more

Now I'm gonna stop posting and driving but this 1v1 ain't over by a damn shot

[Kitty Trauma Team]

@LLD- yes, I'm aware that I was an asshole, and I misread your posts as I mention later with Pooky

I do apologize, and I mean that on a personal level

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

And I didn't mean what I said about not liking playing with you, I was just frustrated and still not feeling 100%. I do like playing with you or I wouldn't keep doing it.

That was wrong, and I'm sorry.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

@LLD Like I've had a few hours to step back and realize how hurtful I was, and if you'd said the same to me I'd be pretty miserable about it myself. We both know what it's like for people to call us toxic even when we aren't trying to be, or to get the wrong impression of us. I know you don't intend to upset people or act toxic, and I know this because I don't either. And if you'd leveled an accusation at me like I did, I'd have been hurt too.

I'll play with you anytime. Just not thinking clearly the last day or two, not that that's an excuse for being hurtful.

Pedit: the fever was a side effect from the second dose of the vaccine, I already had Covid in January but it's only been about three weeks since I recovered, so the vaccine effects hit a lot harder

[Kitty Trauma Team]

@Math, your wagon is almost entirely town. You're committing every sin that I warned you about and frankly it may be too late.

@GreyIce, I'll see what I can do this afternoon to catch up and not use any posts. If I knew this game had a hard post limit, I never would have inned.

This whole post comes off bad. Like legit bad vibes.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Yeah fight me.
Mala presented her SR of me like it was some original thought and not an agreement with you.

Yeah fight me.
Mala presented her SR of me like it was some original thought and not an agreement with you.

mala literally spent 30 hours yesterday riding in an ambulance dealing with people crashing cars into houses and throwing up on her, i spent the last 30 hours laying in bed having fever dreams

you think either of us have any semblance of consistency at this point?


but wait, did she present it as an original thought? or did we cook it up together? can't be both, genius.


Bronze us today, then your scum ass goes after we flip green. that's the deal.

In other words a few games along someone tried to narrow down my post times and i think it backfired on them because one night I was posting at 5am in the morning and then next night at 8pm. Those days when my sleep schedule is that of an exhausted pidgeon.

who am i kidding, you're probably gonna end up next to Uberninja

Is this an insult or a compliment

Depends on how you feel about UN.

@Kuribo >> I apologize for only mentioning Mala. I was ignoring you to give you time to recuperate as I thought you wanted. Your reads could change on coming back and I didn’t want to assume.

@Kitty+Cakez I don’t think either of you are scum and Cakez is who scum wanna miselim? Can we compromise on Titus or Mastina flash wagons? Lots of people want Titus but no one is voting there.

I’m ok with Titus. I feel like you would personally be able to read your twin well enough. I know I tried to do that in F2F mafia and kept getting burned. I just feel like maybe I haven’t played with her enough since I have gotten back, but she seems so different and it’s so hard to connect with her now a days. I feel like she’s not even trying.

I'm not really down to engage with kuribo, given that it is largely "How dare you push me?" rage OMGUS and there's no actual questions for me besides "Are you willing to flip me?", for which the answer is yeah, not confident but I'd be down.

I'll again leave the dialoguing to sangres, but I'm still curious to hear from Mala about my first paragraph in 1081 when she eventually gets in.

For LLD, re: 1108, I have no experience with kuribo and am having a hard time reading into the anger posts. I can totally see the slot flipping town but I don't think the "he has to know" section is true.

I will get back to this. I thought I was up to this area where I last left off, but I think I jumped a few pages ahead by accident.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I'm happy with sangres's questioning of Kitty Trauma Team and don't really want to go further in light of kuribo's last post. The only one I have to add on is that several players have yet to explain why "town-Prism's actions don't make sense" beyond "Why pass an artifact to someone else?", and I want to know if there's anything else. I think 1015 explains my mechanical thinking regarding my opening well enough: as far as I can tell there's been no commentary about my reads, pushes, or positions.

For sangres I basically felt the same on quiet w/ the selfcontained posts, combine that with very gut/tonal reasoning rather than the deeper curiosity he couldn't really keep inside during Iceland and you have me skeptical.

I finished catching up, my reads didn't really shift. I was on my phone and so didn't really take notes. Titus had like, one post that was okay and bork went up. Dunnstral is completely missing the point me/sangres are making and I'm inclined to scumlean him for it.

I can probably vote anyone in my scumleans and maybe mastina/MathBlade, Pooky I think becomes readable and Grey deserves more time. My issue is there's no one I'm really confident on but Kitty is still the top.

P-Edit: Concur w/ Spiffeh on Dunnstral, read on me at least is very underexplained and the entire engagement around my read with sangres-my read was the questionable one, but it's not scummy, also not interested in questioning me further on it-has been bizarre. He had some questioning posts later that were OK iirc but given the level of pressure on him this is about what I'd expect.

For me personally. I didn’t care for how you started out the morning. I still don’t really see how the trident flavor confirmed you to Bork when there was fake claims. I know K mentioned about how he had other questions regarding it and it looked like you knew exactly what it did and what the possible conquense of using it was. At least we got that questioned answered later in the morning area when you decided to just go all suns out - guns out with LLD. I think part of my scum read vibes on you were a bit tainted because like K was saying i was also getting a lot of town vibes from MB.

Again, the whole LLD v MB v u ate up a lot of Morning time and ate a chunk of posts that probably could have been avoided had people not gone all bull in a china shop approach. I’m not usually the type to go for those who are lurkers and I’m not saying I am, but I have personally see so many people go under the radar when we have TvT.

I just feel like yes we need to sort out LLD v MB v Prism, but we also need to regroup and refocus. Titus should remember in one of my first games back from hiatus I think I was able to get away after Titus fake claimed being a cop D1 and then the real cop flipped and she got insta-lynched D2. I was scum there and sat back and watched as the town legit inner destroyed themselves. That’s the best way that I can describe as what I felt happened during the morning, but this time I’m town and I’m sick of getting fucked by endless TvT that all it does is distracts. I had this same issue during the last newbie game I was in. I had two players go back to back, even tho I was the JK’r and blocked the NK N2 I fucked up because I was so tainted and exhausted from the back and forth that I didn’t think clearly.

IDK I’m just sick of losing games to fucking endless wall wars and back and forth.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I have been trying to personally use work less as an excuse during games, but I have been learning to balance it a bit more since coming back to the site.

I came back to the site in August and felt like I got fairly well back into it with a few bumps and bruises, and then I got utterly buried in the Tenet game. I think I'm shaking that off. I hope.

To answer your question regarding the distraction: I noticed a bit of a pattern we had a mixture of different people posting and then the type of content that were being posted.

I had liked how Math engaged Prism during the morning, but things went south when LLD got into the mixture and then it just went up in a fiery blaze — just like my call today.

We had people who I noticed who were trying to sort out reads in addition to trying to get a hand on the artifact during the morning. (Tammy/Sangres/Math/LLD) Then we had the players that posted, but their content to say the least I would describe as a mixture of “one liners/trolly/buddy-buddy”.(Bell, BM, SirCakez, Pooky) then we had a few players who posted no content at all such as prod-dodges or those who barely posted at all. (Dunn, Mastina, GreyICE, Bork).

Those players who weren’t in the whole trying to sort players out kinda got to stay in the shadows as you would call it. I think personally a lot of people just started to go with the flow and was like let’s vote Math D1, which then obviously got stronger once LLD claimed.

I like this. I came out of the Prism/Math stuff with a strong townread on Prism, and that read definitely colored my take on Prism/LLD. I'm not unhappy with how it's resolved at least to this point. Prism isn't a stake in the ground for me this game, but I might have tried to make him one if I needed a read for the game to pivot on.

I haven’t really gotten a handle on my play style anymore because I feel like I’m so rusty with mafia that before Hiatus I was terrible and then when I came back I’m even worse. I have really only played maybe four games and only one was scum and that game I felt like I did better, but that’s because I was able to hide a bit during the player list. I just know I got wrapped up in my last game I played as town and got distracted and didn’t sort the “older” players because I tried too hard to sort the newer and got snowed really hard. I kinda brushed off the older players.

Coming back from my hiatus, I'm finding it difficult to sort a whole large theme game-sized player list (smokefilled antechamber didn't count in this respect because I was in a dethy embedded in the game, which made the rest of the game basically a mini theme). I like large themes, though, so I'll probably struggle along until I figure out how to do this again.

Along with the fact since coming back from Hiatus I barely remember any meta, or meta-tells on players are now gone or at least evolved from when I was last active.

Preach.

I know I’ll need more solid proof, but the last time I played with Titus she turned out to be town and I feel like she’s 180 here currently. She hasn’t really even acknowledged my present/tried to sort me like she would in past games. Then again I don’t know if we have a personal disconnect going here or maybe I just feel like there might be.

I've been told by multiple players/hydra partners that Titus has mellowed post-divorce and is a more enjoyable person to play with now. We were both in the Tenet game and both town, but were in opposite threads (the game was divided into two threads until day 4). We interacted a little over her (correct) LLD read, but not enough for me to get a sense of what her town play is like now.

I think it’s because I’m finding myself agreeing with a lot of Mastina’s posting. I’ll do a separate post with quotes for you.

Your slot is getting tangled up in dissonance. Kuribo has a theory regarding your slot, but we need a flip or two in order for him to flesh it out. So it’s really hard to explain because it’s so early with no flips in order to do it. I actually happen to be okay with your posts or at least I’m not finding anything red-flaggish. So we have a conflict here.

-M

I'm a little sad. :/

I like Kuribo, and that Peregrine-modded NY game I played with original Serene in 2013 really made an impression on me in terms of DGB and kuribo as players. When he's ready to get active again maybe we can talk through whatever it is.

Initially when I asked Kuribo to join it wasn’t even a hydra offer, but I just wanted to play with him as I felt like I haven’t. He reminded me a long time ago we had played, but ofc I didn’t remember. I initially /inned due to another player, but he had to back down due to work + school. I was kinda scared going into a large game with my weird schedule. I don’t really have a 100% perfect schedule. I’m more worried that once I get behind I’m going to stay behind. This could still happen even tho I’m in a hydra so I’m trying really hard to skim while I have time, use my hydra PT/Snapchat and then if i have a decent chunk of time I post in here.

As you know an old play style of mine is to interact with people during the real time. I can’t really do that when I can’t be on for a while so it kinda hurts my way to engage. IDK I’ll eventually find a way to balance, but I feel like I’m having an easier time getting thoughts out this game, but again it might be because I have another person to chew over posts with or it could be a mixture of knowing a good chunk of the playerlist.

I just feel like the whole Prism v LLD could have been avoided, but hey it’s over with and at least we moved on from it. Hopefully in the future information will be gained from it. It’s not like we can go back in time and erase it.

This is my only second game with Titus since hiatus. The first I was scum in and I didn’t like what I was seeing that game, but I used it to my advantage. I just feel like I should have some engagement with Titus and there’s nothing. I legit buddied the ever living shit out of her that game and she didn’t bat an eye. I don’t know maybe its just me, but I feel like she should try to engage me some way here or be a bit on edge due to that, but it seems like she doesn’t care??

Kuribo had already touched on what he didn’t like some what about your slot when he posted with SC/Prism/LLD. When he’s feeling better hopefully you two can interact and get that sorted. IDK I have never been the best at reading either you/nacho. Usually you were able to spot town-Mala over scum-Mala and work out with me once you had that sorted. I just have this vibe you are probably town, but again it’s still early and I need to interact more with you/others.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kay well if you dont care then I don’t. I mean at least attempt to sort me, but instead I’m just thrown away like a piece of trash.

You could be doing other things rather than just deciding to wave the white flag and PL MB.

People are right that you aren’t even trying to sort others. I don’t even know if you do that thing where you tow block people are try to work with them there. I dont have enough time to dig through games anymore and honestly meta is trash, but I’m just having a hard time seeing you so disconnected rn

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Afternoon Vote Count 1.08

Afternoon 1 will end in (expired on 2021-03-01 23:59:59)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to Bronze.

Dunnstral (2): quiet, Spiffeh
MathBlade (5): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Battle Mage, GreyICE
Titus (4): sangres, Prism, SirCakez, MathBlade
SirCakez (4): mastina, Kitty Trauma Team, Dunnstral, Titus

Not voting (2): Tammy, borkjerfkin


Mod notes: 51/85 pages used

Oh wow. Just saw this. I doubt Prism and Cakez are scum together based off this VC. Probably Sangres, Cakez, (Tammy/bork), (Grey/quiet).

Disagree.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Oh shit MB and I are on the same wavelength here

1304 is spot on.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Afternoon Vote Count 1.08

Afternoon 1 will end in (expired on 2021-03-01 23:59:59)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to Bronze.

Dunnstral (2): quiet, Spiffeh
MathBlade (5): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear, Battle Mage, GreyICE
Titus (4): sangres, Prism, SirCakez, MathBlade
SirCakez (4): mastina, Kitty Trauma Team, Dunnstral, Titus

Not voting (2): Tammy, borkjerfkin


Mod notes: 51/85 pages used

Oh wow. Just saw this. I doubt Prism and Cakez are scum together based off this VC. Probably Sangres, Cakez, (Tammy/bork), (Grey/quiet).

My scum reads on you three are based on your individual actions. I don't hunt the entire team day one, nor do I look for a quick fix solve.

I have a saying:

I don't need to find the entire scum team. I just need to find one. I can only elim one at a time anyway. I get one and then we'll talk associatives.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Yeet

VOTE: Titus

[Kitty Trauma Team]

There might be a little dust on the bottle
But don't let it fool ya about what's inside
There might be a little dust on the bottle
It's one of those things that gets sweeter with time

Anyways. I’m going to bed - I got to be functional in the morning.

Right now I’m good w Titus vote although the Bork jumped bothered me, but he was scumreading her so maybe not.

Also a bunch of posts w/in the last hr or two that weren’t signed were by Mala, but should
Be able to tell that from my interactions

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Excuse me, but am I the only one unsettled by the fact Bork has not mentioned Titus once prior to Ffery interaction and then

humped

jumped on after I voted.

-M

Preddit:

You done ducked up.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

1304 is the towniest post in the game, from anyone. The fact that MathBlade is a contender to be limmed today is a travesty.

If I am alive (probably will be) then we can focus on Dunn tomorrow.

I actually thought it over what LLD is doing and I am not sure she has a choice. I think her messing up the gender may be a clue. I think the artifact is making her push me. In the show when a person was whammied with the comb they started talking strange. Lemme check something in thread after work.

I really felt it was odd. I mean like for her to change your pronouns like that and say oh yeah it was just an accident. It was like more than once in one post and even my own phone won’t do that.
I just don’t see cabd/PA doing something like that either tho... I know them on a personal level and they wouldn’t risk causing trauma to someone just to force another to change pronouns

So I’m at a loss for words...

Spoiler: “let me go to hell for this”

[Kitty Trauma Team]

1304 is the towniest post in the game, from anyone. The fact that MathBlade is a contender to be limmed today is a travesty.

If I am alive (probably will be) then we can focus on Dunn tomorrow.

I actually thought it over what LLD is doing and I am not sure she has a choice. I think her messing up the gender may be a clue. I think the artifact is making her push me. In the show when a person was whammied with the comb they started talking strange. Lemme check something in thread after work.

This is the moment I went from "Maybe if I sit down and REALLY think about MathBlade for a few hours, I can understand him for alignment" into "I will never in a million years understand this slot"

This is actually the single most insane post I have ever read in a mafia game

Yet I understood him perfectly

[Kitty Trauma Team]

The post restriction is a limit of 80 something pages and you’re not even posting.

There’s 40 pages left.

There’s actually a pretty good town block imho, even if I am not in it which is my job as a Townie.
LLD, Kitty, sangres, Tammy, Pooky, Prism, bork and that’s off the top of my head.

Is Titus just defeated scum here?

Tammy isn't posting because of grading and spam. No one tries to work with her.
Kitty is town and fair to be in a block.
LLD is lying and not a team player so she is not in any block. She's a dictator.
Sangres isn't town which is a requirement. That's part of why town loses.
Pooky is fair in a block.
Prism isn't working with anyone and his interactions with Cakez are bad. If it wasn't for VCA, they'd be partners.
Bork is close to fair but not active enough to actually form a block.

Townblocks are active and discuss reads with each other. Aside from Cakez, it's which policy elimination to pursue.

I don't want to play in a post limited game with you and LLD but subbing out would be tactical and against the rules.

To be honest, I tried multiple times for you to reach out to me, but you decided against it each time. The last post you had directed at my broke my heart a little. I mentioned it to K before I went to bed where my thoughts were on it.

I hate to say it, but I disagree with a majority of this. I don’t really get the pooky townreads, but maybe Ihavent played with him enough. Tammy is very readable or was in the past, but I got townvibes from her. Regardless of activity and catching up she’d still be allowed to be in a block

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I read emotion as well as or better than the majority of people on this site. It's the core mechanic of how I play.

I do believe Titus is genuinely demotivated and I do believe a majority of that is due to things outside this game. I don't believe Titus is cold-hearted, ruthless, or sociopathic enough to emotionally manipulate members of a community that she is close to. So if she says she's got shit going on, I believe it.

I do however feel I have a hard time reconciling her posts with a town mindset. I promised Mala a deep dive into Titus ISO last night and I held back out of respect for Titus' revelations about being depressed.

I've seen firsthand Grey and LLD enact their policies about granting death to those who seek it, and I've adopted a similar mindset. You can't let people who aren't willing to play stagnate the game. Never mind that there are people who will try and woe is me into saving their own necks as scum. Again I don't believe that's what this is, but lesser players have done it. And so, if someone wants to die in the game, you oblige them. You call their bluff but to a permanent end.

I don't believe Titus is town here, but I'd be lying if I said I was as confident today as I was yesterday. But again I still haven't dived into her ISO.

My vote stands.

On a personal note, Titus, whatever you're going through, I'm sorry to hear about it and my inbox is always open to you as usual if you need a set of ears.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I don't believe Titus is cold-hearted, ruthless, or sociopathic enough to emotionally manipulate members of a community that she is close to.

the entire point of the game is emotional manipulation tho >_>

Not everyone is a cold blooded asshole like me.

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

EXCUSE ME

ITS NOT JUST KURIBO OK

IM ANOTHER HALF

WHO HAS PURE TOWNBLOOD

I EAT AND FART TOWNVIBES

~M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

God damn it took me like ten minutes to type up that post explaining my point of view and I just skipped over the Pedit and hit send only to find a hammer


Like I even ignored a patient for five of that

They're fine, they just wanted to call their dead spouse but still

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

So if that's hammer and if Titus is being honest about being town, I still don't like prism or Cakez as town. They can be buddies together, and I think there's one scum if not both. Leaning more towards Cakez.

I like Math's effort in solving, some of his stuff is waaaaaay out there but I think it comes from a good place

Quiet might be scum

GI and LLD are town reads. One could be scum, but I doubt it. LLD is one of my hardest town reads.

Spiffeh and Pooky always seem town to me.

Watch the back end of the Titus wagon if she flips town.

I remember telling Mala when I had a fever that Bork could be scum, can't remember why, must be the spirits of my ancestors visiting me in my dreams

mastina is pretty in line with what I expect from her town game, but I can't catch scum-mastina and she probably knows it

Bell makes me nervous, not quite sure why. Might deep dive this slot

Dunn is another I want to deep dive

Tammy I leave to Mala

Battle Mage gives me nice town vibes

This is what I have in case scum decides to kill me tonight with pretty much everyone calling me town

They may as well do it tonight anyway, day one is always a wash to me and I'm better once I have flips. And everyone knows my reads are subject to change based on the weather.

Just in case Mala and I don't make it through the night, i will bid you adieu, and say goodbye *mwah!* and good! Night! Bang!

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Tbh I usually leave Tammy up to sangres

Unless they are both scum then we ducked

M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

@Ffery:

A bit of both. I have a tendency to be able to understand math on a personal level then most people can. So I know where his line of thinking comes from.

Or I could just be wrong and trying to paint a connection that’s not really there

I have a terrible headache. Idk why I haven’t had it at all today until I came home and I just finished a 12 hr

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Why? I have been abundantly clear that your claim was for control regardless of if you're a mason or not. That's the problem I have. It's the elitism and anti-town play that's my problem. If you're a mason, that makes it worse not better as you were under no pressure.

she has literally not done thread control except for leashing my vote to hers

Yeah.

She could have stopped Dunnstral from hiding behind her.

LLD knows that she has that level of influence.

Why would I stop that?

Because Dunn’s scum Dunndunn

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Can you talk about your Battle Mage townread? I don’t see it at all.

General feeling


Nice town vibes is probably a stronger assertion than I mean for it to sound about a player that I've barely put any scrutiny into

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Can you talk about your Battle Mage townread? I don’t see it at all.

General feeling


Nice town vibes is probably a stronger assertion than I mean for it to sound about a player that I've barely put any scrutiny into

Could you? BM is a pretty strong scumread for me.

Just for you I'll dive the ISO when I get home

[Kitty Trauma Team]

You are talking to Kuribo, not me Math.

We are both online and posting. I’m just being a lazy bum in my bed trying to fight this headache, but I’ll prob be going to sleep in a few bc I can’t stand the pain.

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Hello hydra! You've been remarkably silent! Glad you decided to give us some activity day 1.

lol what

whichever hydra you're referring to, both have very nearly twice as many posts as you, so no more "remarkably silent" than you yourself. Anyway, I'm glad you decided to give us some activity day 1.

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I'm sorry, I'm post limited. I've can only make one post for every one of your IQ points, so I'm damn near out.

it's not that my IQ is low, it's just that I have to make sure I speak on a level you can understand. it's really the best i can do without resorting to drawing you pictures.

....

anyway:

Can you talk about your Battle Mage townread? I don’t see it at all.

General feeling


Nice town vibes is probably a stronger assertion than I mean for it to sound about a player that I've barely put any scrutiny into

Could you? BM is a pretty strong scumread for me.

Just for you I'll dive the ISO when I get home

so i'm not sure how you confused me and Mala, but this is what I've got and we'll go stream of consciousness as my ancestors guide me. this is the kind of deep dive commentary that usually just goes in a t-file I keep to myself or to my hydra partners:

Early ISO kinda fluffy, there was a lot of flavor / mechanics talk around the first few pages among the general thread. ISOs 1 -3 are non AI, Iso 4 is a misunderstanding of the expression "flavor guide"

Things get a bit more substantive (is that a word, i'm a writer god dammit, if it's not a word I'm coining it now) by ISO 5: post 66 is a little fence-sitty toward LLD's Prism read. Calls it weird but questions if Prism scum would be so blatant, but then says don't give him the artifact anyway. Could be a scumbuddy of Prism and unwilling to take an early stance? Iso 6 is fluff, Iso 7 is vaguely related to the thread, still feels fluffy. Clarified in Iso 7 that he thought spiffeh's 4 scum thing was cringey. I don't remember what 4 scum thing that was, and the button to find out is on the other screen and meh. Iso 9, hops on the train to give LLD the artifact. Iso 10, fluff. Iso 11 confirms that he confirmed without the confirmation phrase. yeesh, can i stop writing confirmed. Iso 12, essentially tells people that the key to reading Math is tone and behavior. Iso 13, defends Math saying that the slot will be self-resolving. I've never liked this argument. The only self-resolving slots are the dead. 14- clarifies iso 4. 15- Wants to move past artifact phase, isn't sure Prism should be rewarded for trying so hard to get the artifact, I think is what he's saying? 16- says LLD is "on point." By this time LLD is firmly established as a town read for most anyway. 17- fluff, or rather a comment about the "insert paragraph" business. 18, urges Cakez to come over to giving LLD the artifact. 19, sitting on the fence about Prism, but prefers to give it to LLD since Prism begged harder (agreed). 20- asks Prism for a read on him

By this point I can see BM fitting into my scumreads on Cakez and Prism

21- fluff. 22- calls himself town, votes for himself to get the artifact. 23- fluff. 24- claims VT. 25- Asks for artifact, 26- asks LLD to confirm he's not mason to her. 27- Asks prism why he gave away the artifact. 28- says too early for mass claim, agreed but dude you already claimed. 29- asks Bell for artifact vote. 30- wants to know why Prism gave away the artifact. 30- I wouldn't call it fluff but I'm not commenting on this post. 31- tries to counter my accusation that he's thirsty for an artifact. 33- realizes it's not gonna happen and nakedvotes LLD. 34- fluff. 35- takes issue with Cakez repeating my thirst allegation.

By this point, LLD has received the artifact. Isos 36 and 37 are both essentially just naked voting for Dunnstral. Small defense of Mathblade in 37. 38- says Dunn is trying to deflect attention. 39- wants town to stay on Dunn. 40- Asks Pook to go back to Dunn. 41- Calls Math town based on day 1. 42- Says Titus is fine, to leave her alone for the day. 43- Says Bell always looks scummy. 44- says Math's quoted game isn't indicative of Math's ability. 45- fluff 46- calls Math, Titus, LLD, Prism possibly all town. States he has meta on Math. 47- declines to leave Dunn wagon. 48- Likes Spiffeh, doesn't want to elim Math or Titus. 48- says he'd consider bork

So iso 50 surprised me, and it's probably because on Wednesday I was riding the Pfizer wave that I didn't remember this, but he does a complete 180 on Math. this is pretty stark when you notice him defending Math up to that point and seems to come out of nowhere. 51- explains the 180, rightly points out that he had been calling math town to this point. I disagree that Math seems to not care who gets elim'd. 52, taunts his shiny new scumread. 53- speculates that people are trying to distance from scumbuddy Titus, admits he's seen it done with her as town. 54- calls mathblade scum. 55- offers post game advice to math. 56- fluff. 57- calls Math flip-floppy in terms of scumreads. I kinda can see what BM is saying here, but I don't think it's Math just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks; rather I think it's just Mathblade not being able to consolidate having too many scum reads on day 1. 58- rightfully corrects mathblade about the voting record. 59- makes the case for titus town regarding her defense of mathblade. 60- denies that it's a bad reason for townreading titus. 61- calls Dunn out for saying BM's iso is bad. 62- calls Math and Dunn scum. 63- wants to see reads. 64, says Cakez is good as scum. 65- goes VLA.

Okay, so that's my deep dive, and now if you're not reading that jumbled mess, I can give you my TLDR analysis: At first glance I thought I was going to hate this ISO. I felt like it was fluffy, and before reading him, I couldn't think of a single thing BM had said all game. But taken into its own, the iso isn't NEARLY as bad as Dunn seems to think it is. It's no fluffier than probably anyone else's, I don't like the artifact thirst, but I do like that he's pushing his scum reads, even when there doesn't seem to be traction there. He's scumreading a townread of mine, Math, but that doesn't make him scum. He's given his reasons for scumreading Math. There's an internal consistency that I feel comes through thus far. Whether BM is right or wrong, I think that HE thinks he's right.

In short, I wouldn't call BM my strongest town read by a damn sight, but he's higher than null.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Unvote

I don't want my vote resting on Titus until I have a chance to deep dive her


I'll spare you guys the stream of consciousness for that and just make Mala read it instead

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Kind of thrown by kuribo not really pushing me after the "This 1v1 isn't over" but I remain extremely impressed by the quality of reads/posting, continues to raise the bar higher.

Again, I don't need your whole team on Day 1.

I just need one of you.

And you can rest assured that until you NK me, I'll keep coming at you the next day, and the next day, and the next day.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

It’s not that he did a 180 Kuribo it’s that the reasoning after the 180 is BAD. It sounds good alone but look in context. It’s a lazy “maybe I am wrong”, then all of a sudden it’s gung-ho confidence. It doesn’t compute Kuribo. BM says I don’t give a crap about finding scum which is patently false.

In Polite Mafia, (sorry GreyICE if I just gave you PTSD) I eliminated a scum that had been one of my top townreads when I woke up one day and decided to just start scum reading them. It's true. I had no reasoning for it. My reads had been so bad that I decided that voting my town reads couldn't be the worst thing in a game that was so boring and inactive that GreyICE *literally* posted a scum QT post in the main thread and NOBODY NOTICED.

I mean, I've voted people just because I dreamed they were scum.

But I digress. What I'm getting at is that YOU may feel his reasoning is patently false or bad, but my play style relies heavily on emotion and reactions. And I do feel thus far that BM genuinely believes his reasoning for scumreading you, despite the fact that I disagree with him.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

It's not really that I think anything quiet did was especially townie
I just find it odd how he ran straight to the bottom of everyone's readslists
Feels very LHF

I like this post.

@Math:

I do got a question and it’s not even a huge one, but how did you confuse Kuribo and I?

-M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I typed this up in the hydra PT but then decided fuck it, it can go here

Here's what I have for Titus's ISO:

0- She isn't sure how we bronze scum, indicating she probably didn't read the part of the rules that says we're in a multi-part day phase. Right off the bat, I can tell you I don't see scum faking this. I don't see town faking this. I believe she was genuinely not understanding.

1- RVS vote on Battle Mage.

2- Another post not understanding the rules. She states that scum probably know what the artifacts do, but MY understanding is that they only know the nature of the artifacts IF they possess them at some point. You can correct me if I'm wrong on this. I actually think this is highly town indicative. I don't think she makes this post pretending as scum not to know the rule, there isn't enough benefit from it.

3- Definitely did not read the rules, didn't know about the confirmation phrase.

4- Confirms she hasn't read the rules, sets forth a plan about leadership as if such a thing is possible in this player list.

5- Calls Math's suspicions post gibberish

6- Says it's too early to get a read on Nacho and ffery (agreed)

7- calls Math town, admits she could be wrong

8- Agrees with Spiffeh that Math is town

9- Questions me why I took exception to the use of the word meltdown.

10- Votes Prism to receive the artifact because she's sheeping Tammy

11- Asks Math which post she missed

12- Apologizes for interrupting my interrogation by questioning me. It annoyed me at the time because I had a good reason for asking, and I don't believe I should ever be held accountable for anything I say or do in a game. But more importantly, she broke up my rhythm. It's whatever now, but still, the old me wouldn't have explained and would have asked her to stay outta grown folks business.

13- Offers to answer Math's question somewhere down the line. Now, right here, I notice a subtlety in her tone that indicates she's starting to feel disconnected from the game, and it's earlier than I thought. She says she's going to do it, but she "just has to do it." That subtle wording tells me that she's not looking forward to it. That it's a chore she's going to have to make herself do.

14- Admits that she won't likely be NK'd with this player list (agreed), says it's more productive to wait until we have more posts to decide who out of Math's early critics are scum. (Probably so)

15- Says she's limited access, NAI

16- Thinks we should move on to the bronzing stage. Calls Math town, urges Math to take a breather from the thread.

17- Asks Tammy how she feels about her sheeping Tammy onto Prism. I like this post.

18- fluff

19- Asks Dunn for more reads

20- Doesn't necessarily buy LLD's mason claim, doesn't think she's scum for lying about it if she's lying. Analysis of LLD wanting control, and if I remember right this is where Titus started becoming worrisome for me.

21- Tells Math what she feels he's doing wrong. Calls Math anti-town, but not scum.

22- Townread on Spiffeh

23- Calls Math a moderate townread but admits she's willing to policy bronze.

24- Asks Math his read on Dunn since at this point Dunn is coming into conversation.

So I think on the surface, this might look to some like scum-coaching, but remember, we already know from the rules that scum have day talk. She doesn't need to coach her partner in open thread, and tbh it doesn't happen nearly as often as people think it does because current site meta gives scum daytalk in themes anyway if im not mistaken.

The next couple posts, 25 and 26 are essentially game theory, and pretty basic at that.

27- Agrees that she's threatened to policy Math before.

28- A quick statement about who's on the Dunn wagon. This a good post and i'm writing this as a mental note to look at something at some nebulous point.

29- moves her vote to Dunn

30- Says her vote is to reward good behavior whatever that means

31- Says the Math wagon is justified. Explains why she feels Math's personality causes this to happen.

32- Asks Math why his read changed.

33- Explains her method in regards to the Dunn wagon

34- Likes BM, is souring on Bell

35- Asks BM if Bell could be TMI. I don't understand what that means but ok

36- Explains her Bell read to Spiffeh. Says Bell is trying, but calls the pushes "vapid."

37- Calls Bell's bluff about not voting Bell. There's an aggressiveness to this post that I like. Titus doesn't need to challenge Bell here and does anyway.

38- Says she scumreads Dunn, says she's trying to work with others.

39- Wants LLD to answer her question

40- Flavor / mechanics post, Titus (rightfully) points out both Prism and bork having possessed an artifact, would know what that artifact does

41- Calls Bell her highest scumread

42- Questions Math not wanting to help her on Bell. I have thoughts on this, but it requires more time than I have right now.

43- real good post questioning why Math asked Bell (who apparently scum reads Math) to sheep him. I'm with Titus on this. Like, I townread Math, but god damn I'd never ask someone who's scumreading me to sheep me. Like... why even bother asking?

44- Finally votes Math, seems genuinely frustrated with her brother.

45- says she'll be busy the next few days

on that note about halfway through, I'm taking a breather from this. i fear my wife may shoot me if I snooze my alarm one more time and I need to finish cleaning out the old apartment by midnight

-k

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Find it odd KTT stopped the ISOing of Titus before this post. Just a random stop.

It's not a random stop, are you illiterate?

I stopped at the halfway point y 8:55am after half a fucking hour of doing shit for a game while procrastinating on other shit I had to leave at 9am for


Like don't fucking shade me for no god damn reason, you'll get the rest when you get it. It takes fucking time.

She had 90 posts, I stopped at 45 when I had five minutes left before I had to leave


HALF OF 90 IS 45

"MATH" BLADE

you fuckers are never happy with anything, do the god damn deep dive yourself if it's that important to you you gotta whine about the stopping point


Jesus Christ

-k

God dammit


and math if you're gonna nit pick at me then you can deal with your sister yourself I ain't for that shitty shade

[Kitty Trauma Team]

No to all of those.
I can’t read Tammy.
KTT has written a lot, but their takes are lukewarm.
And somehow they aren’t voting anyone. (For Tammy indecision seems to be normal? for mala and kuribo I have no idea why they haven’t murder tunneled somebody yet).

They’re both in my meh reads.

We were voting Titus but Kuribo unvoted because he wanted to do an ISO and didn’t want any shenanigans.

_M

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Also we don’t murder tunnel until D2

Stay turned for we will have vicious scum blood on our hands.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

I was waiting for Nacho, but now that I know he won't be posting I'm okay moving forward with a Mastina elimination.

Nacho will hopefully have at least a few hours before deadline tomorrow assuming the day doesn't end sooner. So, too late, probably to have a massive late-day impact on the game, but time to get our synced thoughts together and into the thread, I hope.

@Mathblade: Can you please, please please make an effort to help us NOT hit 85 pages before Nacho has a chance to post again?

I wanna hear nachos thoughts as well. So please for those who have been quite active as posting just trim it down so this could happen

Tia

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Picking up my Titus dive from my "random stop"

wait hold on, somebody's knocking on my door which is weird because it's 6:15am and I don't get mail delivery here

Oh wow, hey that's weird. Sure I'll sign for the package.

here mathblade, these are for you, it's a special delivery, just came in with your name on it

Spoiler:

46- doesn't like that Math got attacked for FoSing LLD's claim. I gotta agree here, but I do think LLD fakeclaiming mason is possibly NAI

47- Thinks sang could be scum, doesn't have a case, feels the same about Dunn. Thinks LLD and GI are town, but playing badly. Says she's sure LLD will get mad but she doesn't care about LLD's tantrums. See, me personally, if I was scumreading LLD or Grey, or even mildly suspicious, I'd probably just keep it to myself. Not because I'm afraid of them, mind you, but because they're about as hard to elim as I am, and I don't think this game is ever ready for the 40+ pages it would take to get there. Both of them have a similar style to me in which they intentionally make it a long, arduous, draining process to eliminate the slot. So, if I suspected either of them, I'd just keep calling them lock town until they either killed me or they took me to endgame where I could betray them by revealing that I've been scumreading them for a long time. But I digress.

47.5- Anyway, she then goes on to say she's glad Math is letting the thread breathe. (agreed, I was just complaining to Mala about how Math's posts make the game hard to follow. She seemed sad about my feeling that way) Thinks Spiffeh is whiteknighting her, leans town on bork. Calls Cakez town for now, which I very obviously disagree with.

48- Says she should scumread a Pooky post but likes the tone.

479- Talks about how LLD is all about control. This is her interpretation of LLD's playstyle, and I don't think LLD is necessarily about control. I think she's about just shouting her deepest emotions into the thread and hoping it helps her. I actually think LLD has a lot more *self*-control than she used to, but I've seen her lose control of too many games to think that control is her deal. I don't think there's any game where she fears getting drowned out in a game of personality. But this conversation about certain playstyles and thread control could go on for weeks and never come to consensus.

50- Clarifies 47

51. Calls manipulative a dirty word for persuasion

52- Repeats the choice of word. Says she doesn't enjoy a game with Math and LLD "like this." Again, I can feel the thread wearing down on her psyche. This is a slow descent, and I feel like I can definitely see a logical trajectory to her defeatism later.

It should be noted that by this point in the deep dive, I'm town reading Titus a lot better. I told Mala around the time yesterday that I took a break from it, that I was starting to feel a lot better about the slot

53- Agrees with Spiffeh saying she should have asked something

54- thinks math might flip town and doesn't trust LLD. Complains about Math's posting rate (agreed, I said something to mala about this yesterday, I believe my exact words were "Jesus fucking christ, I can't read this shit, he posts like a caffeine addicted hedgehog with a meth problem. It's like he's on fire, rapidly burning to death and only more posts can put the fire out." Isn't a fan of post limits. I think they can work depending on the player list. This is not that player list.

55- Says the wagon on Math is almost entirely town. I'm not looking at who was on the wagon at the time, but I do disagree with this assertion.

56- Says she's going to catch up. good fucking luck lmao

57- More of where she's starting to feel like her posts don't matter because people are giving LLD control. Again, she's behind in the game, she's out running errands, and the game just keeps moving at a thousand miles an hour, so this is another logical progression

58- Thinks sang is playing it safe and can be scum

59- Surprised LLD isn't angry, some more annoyed-posting (remember the whole point of this deep dive is because I play the game by reading emotion and responses and this helps me get a grip on her emotional progression) No longer thinks Grey is town because of the shade he threw on people for trying to catch up. I don't scumread Grey for it, but I thought it was real real shitty, given Grey's own lack of posting, the breakneck speed of the game, the "but there are two of them" towards me considering the whole fucking point of a hydra is that neither of us have time to post a hundred posts a day, and the fact that I never ever once promised to "catch up soon." I will always and forever read only what I want, and if the thread gets too out of hand, I'll just ignore the backstory and jump back in. You think that's shitty? Here's a secret-- When I replace into 200 page games, I don't even read to catch up. I just tell everyone I did and start screaming at someone.

60- Sheeping mastina onto Prism. I don't like the flavor case mastina made. I think it's meaningless and I don't think the game would be broken by flavor. I think there are other reasons Prism can be scum. Now, I've softened on Prism a bit, and I told Mala that yesterday. I do kind of like Prism's reaction to my shouty kuribo posts, and I fairly like his posts since then. If he's scum, he can wait till after Cakez. I digress. Here, Titus also says she can see Prism and Cakez being scum together, and I do agree with that, although as I say I'm softening on Prism.

61- jesus christ do I really have like twenty more posts to go Anyway she's not sure if LLD is scum.

62- Interacts with LLD, doesn't like Math's reads. Calls being arrogant while wrong a town-tell. whew what a relief. Points out that Prism is townreading Cakez despite Cakez not fulfilling Prism's request, calls the game a chore, again mentions being demotivated. I don't think she's faking the reasoning for her demotivation. At one point I worried that she was scum watching her team burn in flames, but this deep dive definitely charts a progression of frustration.

63- Calls Cakez out again for not filling Prism's request

64- Votes Cakez, says it's Cakez + Prism I like this

65- says sangres probably too. Okay listen, mala keeps mentioning that I had concerns or a theory about the sangres slot, but I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty sure I told her that when I had the fever and now I can't remember what the hell I was on about. mala, if you read this, remind me lol this whole game is a gray mush of a slog

66- Asks Math why the flavor expert hasn't analyzed mastina's flavor case on Prism. I don't care about the flavor arguments and my soul glazes over whenever it comes up

67- Tells mala that she doesn't care. Accuses Math of not posting in good faith. Says she doesn't want to engage Math

68- doubts Cakez and Prism are scum together based on VC. yeah but a day 1 wagon that doesn't end in elim is easy as hell to manipulate.

69- Claims VT Says she doesn't care. This right here is the boiling point where her frustrations over the past week have hit a head.

70- Gives her final list of reads. Says she wishes she could replace out because she just doesn't want to play with Math and LLD. Calls a replace out in that case tactical, which it wouldn't be, but whatevs. Replacing out because other people are making you not want to play has nothing to do with an in-game advantage.

Titus and everyone reading this, if you EVER ever EVER listen to ANY post I ever make, make it this one:

You don't owe anyone your mental health.

This is the most important advice I can ever give another living soul. I don't care if it's your partner, your ex, your sibling, your parents, or some random nobodies on the internet. You don't owe them your mental health. That is too valuable a price to keep anyone in your life.

71- Admits she's feeling defeated, hates the mechanics

72- Fairly good analysis of the gamestate and revealing more of her defeated attitude. It's somewhat long but I agree with a lot of it

73- Still annoyed with the game itself

74- Says she may be depressed and takes some time to sort all of that out.

I'm going to end this deep dive at this "completely random" point (@Math: ) which is actually where I always intended for it to end. The whole point was for me to see if I could find a trajectory to her feeling defeated in the game state, and based on my reading of her emotion and tone throughout the game, this is where I am:

I feel that Titus was frustrated for the better part of a week about the gamestate and its breakneck speed. I feel she's frustrated with her brother, because she had given him advice on how to kinda help the thread settle and she felt he didn't take it. I feel she's frustrated with LLD and has concerns about the mason claim. I feel she's frustrated that she feels some of the stronger town players are getting drowned out to what she essentially feels is a lot of arguing and noise. I add all of these up and not only do I feel her frustration and defeatism is legit, I think it's town.

And that's a pretty important distinction to make. Again, I play the game by reading emotion and response. I did this deep dive fully expecting to come back and place my vote back on Titus, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I don't think she's scum. I can't imagine that's what Math wants to hear, or what a few other people want to hear, but lol like I give a fuck what anyone thinks. This is how I feel, having now spent two hours of my life reading an analysis of Titus' posts. TWO THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED WORDS about Titus. If I add 2100 more and a few sex scenes, whip up a nice cover with some titties, I could publish it on Amazon and make $20, but nooooo I had to waste nearly 3000 words and two hours of my life on this game.

[Kitty Trauma Team]

And somehow they aren’t voting anyone. (For Tammy indecision seems to be normal? for mala and kuribo I have no idea why they haven’t murder tunneled somebody yet).

AH YES "lukewarm" takes like "HEY YOU SCUM FUCKERS, ELIM ME TODAY AND MY SCUMREADS TOMORROW" or "here is how i waste hours of my life ISOing people"

I'd lynch Cakez so fast it would make your soul cry. I have been very vocal, very clear, and i have OFFERED TO LET MYSELF GET BRONZED FIRST AS LONG AS YOU DUMMIES TAKE HIM NEXT. Mala wakes up from a 30 hour shift to find me in a 1v1, and you call that lukewarm? Man, if you don't gtfo with that.

I'm going to tell you something that I have had to repeat a billion times over the last fourteen years: I will vote whoever the hell I want, whenever the hell I want, and you'll not have a god damn thing to say about it.


And who the fuck are you that you think you know my style? Listen here, I don't do "lukewarm" regardless of my alignment. This game is so rambling and unfun that the only reason I'm not screaming at the screen with blood frothing from my very lungs is because, surprise surprise, I tend to get banned for "abusive behavior," if I do things like tell you that your analysis of me is the stupidest god damn thing I've read since that erotic novel I read that was CLEARLY ripping off Kenshi lore. So I'm not going to tell you that, but I am going to nod and point vigorously in the direction of Kindle Unlimited. If there's one thing it should be REAL FUCKING CLEAR by now, I don't like soft shade. I don't like stupid pointless snipey shade.

And speaking of this game being unfun: "Oh hey, we have a page limit of X, let's add 23 pointless pages over the course of 48 hours!" Honestly, I'd have replaced out already if I weren't the second head of a hydra. The whole fucking point of hydra'ing with Mala is because I don't really play anymore, I don't ENJOY playing anymore, and I barely have time to play. And you know what Bell? If you can't figure out in EIGHTY FUCKING POSTS that I'm town, that's honestly a you problem. Whether you're town or your scum, I suggest you stop sniping at me with shitty non-arguments like "lol lukewarm." It's not going to accomplish anything

These are the only two posts I'm making today, the rest of you can keep spewing your word vomit into a post limited thread for all I care.

man do I miss three weeks ago when I wasn't playing. i could be playing NES games or writing erotic novels and making some money instead of dealing with you people

Vote: SirCakez

real funny how everyone keeps calling him scum but this thread is just tripping over itself to bronze anybody but him.

HEY CAKEZ

1V1 STILL STANDS

-kuribo duh, and the previous post was me too, man, don't none of y'all go bugging mala about why she said this that or the other, it's real fucking obvious which posts are me and which ones are her