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[Solon]

Ahoy there!

[Solon]

I be a TPR! Get off my wagon or be off with thy heads!

[Solon]

VOTE: mmb

Naked vote?
Third on the wagon?

This has the hallmarks of an undesirable. You shall pay with your blood!

VOTE: Dannflor

[Solon]

Why would you claim TPR with 3 votes on your wagon instead of keeping that secret and just like, being townie

What is this question meant to achieve exactly?

Transparency is the finest instrument a townie has available to them. I have nothing to hide! I’d rather die being true and honest than cower in fear of execution.

I note that despite my claim you still haven’t rescinded your naked and opportunistic vote.

[Solon]

What is this question meant to achieve exactly?

I'm trying to figure out if you're replacing into a scum slot who overreacted to a mid-size wagon or if you're bad town

This isn't genuine solving, unless you yourself are a really bad player. It's incredibly surface level.

You're just trying to excuse yourself for sticking on my wagon while making it look as though you're not being blatantly opportunistic.

[Solon]

your claim sucks and so does everything else from your slot

This post sucks.

[Solon]

Tomorrow I'll either have potentially game-solving information or I'll be dead, either way there is no reason to elim me Today when I've openly claimed TPR upon entering the game.

The fact I'm claiming this so early should be a clue that I'm being honest about it.

[Solon]

If you want to label me 'bad town' then fine, I'll wear that as a badge of honor coming from you.

I play my own way and the way that feels right in the moment. I am guided by intuition, and in the moment I was being guided within into claiming as I have done. I believe Dannflor's reaction to this has been scum-indicative, as he should certainly know better given his join date. I don't believe at all that he's genuinely considering the situation - more like he's biding his time and waiting to see where the crowd goes with this.

[Solon]

VOTE: Klick

kill this and move to the next day

But that's an inactive slot? Why not wait for a replacement

[Solon]

The players who aren't voting should vote. Like, what are you waiting for?

[Solon]

This is a very auspicious environment for scum. Let's change that.

Join me on the Dannflor wagon!

[Solon]

I've just now read back a little and saw a novice detection claim, I'm weighing it up.

What was the other one

[Solon]

I don't want to say too much, but the Novice Detective role makes some sense alongside my own role.

I'm not the best at setup spec but this is what I feel right now.

[Solon]

Honestly, I think you being a TPR is more likely than the novice detective claim being true

So why are you voting me

[Solon]

What I think is leave the PR claims alive for now and let it self-resolve

[Solon]

Where is the Klick 'soft', I had a quick scan through but couldn't locate it

[Solon]

Oh and April also claimed D4 Innocent Child

That seems a very convenient claim

[Solon]

The game could be virtually over by Day 4

[Solon]

Reads on Hyposoc?

Their posting style seems scummy to me as it's very carefully written and diplomatic

[Solon]

DGB could be scum as well. I don't get the sense that they're actually trying to solve the game

[Solon]

Bugspray seems pretty Townie, although their last post really sucked

[Solon]

Hmm interesting

[Solon]

Bugs' last post sucked as it was so negative and had a draining effect on the thread, and I disagree that my claim sucked.

We are nearing deadline and I can't wait around until it's too late that people will be like 'meh, there's no time let's just elim Solon'.

I have claimed to have hard info Tomorrow, which is something scum in this situation would have zero reason to do.

Maybe my predecessor sucked? Idk but that's irrelevant. Focus on the present, not the past. Whatever my predecessor did is beyond my control, and I refuse to be held accountable for something someone else has done.

[Solon]

VOTE: Clidd

Let's try this for size

[Solon]

I don't like his position regarding the Novice Detective claim, it seems manipulative

[Solon]

Honestly I could vote half the playerlist right now

[Solon]

I'm willing to elim anyone that is not a claimed PR.

Disclaimer: future claims do not guarantee you a pass, given what has gone before. You will be scrutinized.

I'm feeling a little better about Dannflor, but maybe I'm just going soft?

[Solon]

I think people are using the frozen deadline as an excuse to slack off.

Scum are definitely amongst these slackers.

[Solon]

Any reason you jumped off the Clidd wagon just as I joined it?

[Solon]

the solon slot is fucking town and we've known it ever since the only wagon was on it for like at least 48 hours and nothing hapopened

i will yeet:
mini > clidd > gerain

Does not compute

[Solon]

Feh, are all these slot replacements normal?

I'm just generally annoyed by all the player swapping, and keeping track of who claimed what, and who practically admitted to being mason with whom. Forty pages of day one... it feels kind of miserable, and actively counter productive.

Are we settling on anyone at all?

I'm happy with the slot vote I am currently going for, but I have no reason to be stubborn about it. If geraintm is someone we can agree to get out, I'll swap to that, or I'll hold strong if we want to get Solon out. Power role claiming on three votes feels weak and desperate.

This is a scum post

VOTE: HypoSoc

[Solon]

In post 903, Solon wrote:
I be a TPR! Get off my wagon or be off with thy heads!


really, another day 1 claim. i think i believe about one third of these are true

gretchen and klick are pretty much always the same alignment soo

I don't really see a reason not to believe klick or grethcen. Would klick really run a gambit like that to save his partner? Klick certaintly wouldn't do that as scum to save a town pr. Maybe gretchen happened to fake claim a pr that supposedly synergizes with Klick? Seems doubtful.

Mini's slot claimed in a really weird spot. Doesn't seem natural that they would feel the pressure to claim there. It is also a pretty safe fakeclaim given there are 2 other prs that can die in the night.

I'm scumreding this as well

Btw I didn't even know about the other claims when I made mine. This subtle discrediting shit aint gonna fly

[Solon]

I want to shoot inside of HypoSoc, DGB, and AliceK for today

VOTE: HypoSoc

VOTE: hyposoc

Disclaimer

: I didn't see these votes before I made mine

[Solon]

I haven't really been interested in the Da Dude wagon because I didn't have particular suspicions for that slot, nor did I think flipping it would reveal anything.

But now I am suspicious of MiniMegabyte, and I feel Da Dude flipping scum would all but cinch it.

That said, the Da Dude wagon is evaporating, so maybe I should just vote for my suspicion directly.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

But, if the Da Dude slot wagon returns, I am happy to swap to it.

that's such an artificial post

Scum voting other scum?

kinda feeling like switching to hypo

Why do you scumread me?

[Solon]

See, yeah, compared to "late activated IC", Novice Detective IS something that makes sense for scum to claim.

Also, it feels like you made the claim pretty early... like, as town it's a role you want to keep secret. You weren't at risk of being hammered immediately (only E-2 at the time you made the claim, if I counted correctly), so why would you give up the town power role's anonymity so quickly?

Edit by way of preview: +1 to April's "frustrated scum" analysis

lmao i want to vote him for this post alone. infact i will do that, VOTE: HypoSoc

Woah shit there was another one

[Solon]

This wagon feels a little dirty with how quickly it's sprung up, let's try this instead

VOTE: Lotus

[Solon]

I haven't really been interested in the Da Dude wagon because I didn't have particular suspicions for that slot, nor did I think flipping it would reveal anything.

But now I am suspicious of MiniMegabyte, and I feel Da Dude flipping scum would all but cinch it.

That said, the Da Dude wagon is evaporating, so maybe I should just vote for my suspicion directly.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

But, if the Da Dude slot wagon returns, I am happy to swap to it.

that's such an artificial post

Scum voting other scum?

kinda feeling like switching to hypo

Thinking about it, this post actually makes tons of sense from the perspective of biped being HypoSoc's partner

[Solon]

In post 903, Solon wrote:
I be a TPR! Get off my wagon or be off with thy heads!


really, another day 1 claim. i think i believe about one third of these are true

gretchen and klick are pretty much always the same alignment soo

I don't really see a reason not to believe klick or grethcen. Would klick really run a gambit like that to save his partner? Klick certaintly wouldn't do that as scum to save a town pr. Maybe gretchen happened to fake claim a pr that supposedly synergizes with Klick? Seems doubtful.

Mini's slot claimed in a really weird spot. Doesn't seem natural that they would feel the pressure to claim there. It is also a pretty safe fakeclaim given there are 2 other prs that can die in the night.

I'm scumreding this as well

Btw I didn't even know about the other claims when I made mine. This subtle discrediting shit aint gonna fly

And just generally a lack of townie play. He's made two posts since I replaced in and they've both been underwhelming at best.

[Solon]

You're making out that it could be scummy without directly calling it scummy - I'd say that was an attempt at being subtle.

I didn't say it was a

good

attempt.

[Solon]

I think I've already answered that.

I wasn't willing to let it get to a stage where I'm a compromise elim based on the actions of my predecessor, which is outside of my control. A late claim might not have been believed as this is a closed setup, therefore the best weapon in my arsenal as a Townie was transparency. I play mostly by instinct, and my instinct at that moment told me to claim as I did.

I'd much rather eat a NK than the elim so I'm not too worried.

[Solon]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

[Solon]

I don't scumread those who criticize it, I scumread those who are trying to subtly discredit it. Big difference.

[Solon]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

Disagree totally. It is natural in my opinion to question a claim like that. Especially when there are two claims already, town needs to really start evaluating them. You didn't know about the other claims at the time, but yeah. Sure I suppose there can be scum questioning your claim, but personally I'm not reading much into that.

I am the only claimer that has promised hard info Tomorrow, and yet someone said I was the most likely to be lying?

[Solon]

I can't remember who said that now but I'm sure someone did

[Solon]

I didn't say I was absolved.

There is no logic behind saying I'm the

most

likely claimer to be lying.

[Solon]

I don't believe gretchen linked her role to Klick's? I have also linked mine to Gretchen's before I even knew of Klick's soft.

Obviously the IC claim is the most likely to be a lie.

[Solon]

And while I

think

gretchen is telling the truth based on my own role, I'm far from certain as I don't know much about how roles are usually linked in these games

Anyway, I feel as though this discussion is becoming increasingly redundant

[Solon]

To hammer or not to hammer, that is the question

[Solon]

The fact Hypo is still sitting on my wagon is almost a scum claim in itself. He doesn't want to give away associatives by making another push

[Solon]

I don't like how there are two players not voting anyone.

FOS

them if this flips green

[Solon]

I dislike both Hypo and Biped, but the fact is one has claimed a pr, one hasn't

so...

[Solon]

VOTE: Hypo

Let's have it

[Solon]

VOTE: HypoSoc

Excuse me

[Solon]

Not really

Anyway

I have some information

But I feel like I want to wait and see how things play out first before I reveal it, for information's sake

[Solon]

Btw I feel insulted that scum would choose to NK Biped rather than me.

You shall pay for that

[Solon]

This game is so desperately dull

[Solon]

Should I just reveal my info?

I was hoping for more action than this

[Solon]

Scum must be so comfortable in this environment.

It’s easy to blend in when everyone is so underwhelming

[Solon]

VOTE: minimegabyte

Do you realize Mini is no longer in the game?

[Solon]

I got a green light on Lotus

[Solon]

Very likely green light anyway

I don’t feel the need to reveal the specifics at this point, you’ll see when I flip

[Solon]

VOTE: Alice

[Solon]

She strikes me as rigid scum

Her reads and views aren’t adapting, she still wants to push my elim because..????

[Solon]

Maybe that’s why I wasn’t NK’d, because she’d have to actually alter her stance

[Solon]

Apologies for inactivity, I’ve been quite ill recently

[Solon]

I liked my Alice vote but no-one seems interested in her elim for some reason?

We are nearing deadline and I have quite a fever and don’t feel like reading up right now. I’m just going to sheep the only player I know is Town for the sake of a wagon

VOTE: DGB

[Solon]

One thought that came to my mind, btw, is the fact that Solon had an approximate period of 6 days of inactivity and received no prod.

I suppose that N_M could have just forgotten, but an interesting theory was if Solon was posting on some PT but not in the main chat and N_M was under the illusion that Solon was active and not needing a prod.

This is disgusting

VOTE: Clidd

@mod

can you confirm why I wasn’t prodded?