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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:31 am

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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:32 am

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@mod v/la weekends as well
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Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:45 am

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Any thoughts on claiming what animals we chose?
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:48 am

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Alright, I got dog, which was my first option.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:51 am

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also, i need to clean up my apartment because i have a lot of things coming in today, and i have d&d tonight, so i likely won't be around a lot for today regardless.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:52 am

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also, penguin picked penguin, obviously.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:54 am

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In post 33, WhemeStar wrote:The king enjoys exotic tastes
do you now?
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:56 am

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what animal did you pick exactly?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #8) » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:58 am

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i also must leave now to go clean because a few of my amazon packages arrived; i'll return in like two hours to read
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Post Post #248 (isolation #9) » Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:28 pm

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I'm V/LA due to weekend, and I'm lurking because this game just isn't interesting to me atm. Like, once we get past koalawang or whatever, I'll be happy to play.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:12 am

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UNVOTE: Korina
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Post Post #281 (isolation #11) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:12 am

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yea no
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Post Post #284 (isolation #12) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:52 am

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because i'm town? and i suspect we have a janitor based on my role?
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Post Post #285 (isolation #13) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:53 am

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because if there is no janitor in this game, or role that fucks with roles in an equivalent way, (or even just no-flip), my role makes zero sense
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Post Post #287 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:04 pm

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I'm only apathetic because 1) it's the weekend, and I'm V/LA every single weekend. 2) the koalawang game just isn't interesting to me. I joined this game to play mafia, not anything else.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #15) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:04 pm

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I have already softed my role, so if anyone continues to vote me, you are 100% scum in my eyes.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:06 pm

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I'm genuinely tempted just to flat-out claim my entire role just to get something going with this game, because this just isn't fun to play.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:06 pm

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I realize this puts me as the target for the n1 kill, and mafia likely have a strongman, but honestly, unless something starts happening, I really don't care.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #18) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 248, Korina wrote:I'm V/LA due to weekend, and I'm lurking because this game just isn't interesting to me atm. Like, once we get past koalawang or whatever, I'll be happy to play.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #19) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:44 pm

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I don't even think I've ever lied about my role, not that I can at least recall.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #20) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:46 pm

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And also, based on my claim I'm a dog, and what my role is, and the fact it's almost always a town-aligned role, I think you're just scum who wants me out because you don't think nking me will work.

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Post Post #296 (isolation #21) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:47 pm

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Fr, in this game with a singleball, what point does my role have to being scum?
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Post Post #301 (isolation #22) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:55 pm

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I'm going to just hardclaim then:
I'm a coroner. What purpose is there for a scum coroner?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #23) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:55 pm

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Esp if there's a janitor like I suspect?
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Post Post #304 (isolation #24) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:56 pm

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Coroner is a role that hard-counters a janitor, so it'd make sense in this game for there to be a role that gives my role some use.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #25) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:57 pm

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In post 20, Korina wrote:Any thoughts on claiming what animals we chose?
In post 24, Korina wrote:Alright, I got dog, which was my first option.
Image
In post 29, Korina wrote:also, i need to clean up my apartment because i have a lot of things coming in today, and i have d&d tonight, so i likely won't be around a lot for today regardless.
In post 32, Korina wrote:also, penguin picked penguin, obviously.
In post 35, Korina wrote:
In post 33, WhemeStar wrote:The king enjoys exotic tastes
do you now?
In post 20, Korina wrote:Any thoughts on claiming what animals we
C
hose?
In post 24, Korina wrote:Alright, I got dog, which was my first
O
ption.
Image
In post 29, Korina wrote:also, i need to clean up my apartment because i have a lot of things coming in today, and i have d&d tonight, so i likely won't be around a lot for today
R
egardless.
In post 32, Korina wrote:also, penguin picked penguin,
O
bviously.
In post 35, Korina wrote:
In post 33, WhemeStar wrote:The king enjoys exotic tastes
do you
N
ow?
In post 39, Korina wrote:what animal did you pick
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xactly?
In post 41, Korina wrote:i also must leave now to go clean because a few of my amazon packages arrived; i'll return in like two hours to
R
ead

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Post Post #306 (isolation #26) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:58 pm

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In post 305, Korina wrote:
In post 20, Korina wrote:Any thoughts on claiming what animals we
C
hose?
In post 24, Korina wrote:Alright, I got dog, which was my first
O
ption.
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In post 29, Korina wrote:also, i need to clean up my apartment because i have a lot of things coming in today, and i have d&d tonight, so i likely won't be around a lot for today
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egardless.
In post 32, Korina wrote:also, penguin picked penguin,
O
bviously.
In post 35, Korina wrote:
In post 33, WhemeStar wrote:The king enjoys exotic tastes
do you
N
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In post 39, Korina wrote:what animal did you pick
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xactly?
In post 41, Korina wrote:i also must leave now to go clean because a few of my amazon packages arrived; i'll return in like two hours to
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Just to prove as well that I either deliberately chose coroner from the start of the game, or actually got it ^^
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Post Post #307 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:58 pm

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I also don't see anywhere in the setup details that states we will have no-flips, or reduced information flips, so from my pov, we have to have a janitor.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #28) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:59 pm

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Otherwise, Krazy is literally a dick and gave me the functional equivalent of a VT, in a game that is supposed to have no VTs
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Post Post #309 (isolation #29) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:00 pm

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Now, with all that being said, I'm going to die tonight because of course mafia want me out with a janitor in play.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #30) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:00 pm

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then fucking rolecop me, why do I care?
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Post Post #312 (isolation #31) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:02 pm

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And also, you can see my reason to believe why there's a scum janitor, because this is supposed to be a VT-less game. Literally, a tracker can also prove my role, because I can only visit dead players.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #32) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:03 pm

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Whoever we elim today, is who I visit tonight to see their role PM, because that's the only action I can take.

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Post Post #315 (isolation #33) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:03 pm

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or track me tonight, and see I visit a dead player. Regardless, it proves my role.
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Post Post #320 (isolation #34) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:07 pm

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we're just going in circles, and the only thing I remember about you jj is that you genuinely pissed me off in gamma's game from a while ago.
so, to that end, i'm going to step away from the thread, and not post until I'm off work tomorrow.

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Post Post #323 (isolation #35) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:07 pm

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but i got coroner, with a gif of a dog digging a hole, which actually does make sense too, but i'd have liked bloodhound/tracker more.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #36) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:10 pm

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I don't remember anything from GE's game, beyond you pissing me off JJ. I've mostly purged that game from memory because I remember playing incredibly poorly in it.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #37) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 339, mastina wrote:
In post 301, Korina wrote:I'm going to just hardclaim then: I'm a coroner. What purpose is there for a scum coroner?
When there's a town vig that janitors, to name just one example.

Suffice to say this is a fine instance tho of role != alignment. I do not think that in a Krazy game a claim of coroner is a town-only role.

If your plan was to coast by on claim alone, it aint gonna work. I'll want to see content from you and so far it is lacking in townness.
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Even as scum, I don't like coasting by on claim alone. I think winning from that alone is a cheap, and lame victory. I'd rather have a win that I actually worked towards, or a loss that I feel was a fair and just loss.

I have also said now multiple times that I will play once koalawang is over, and now that it's over, I'm playing. Not to mention, I'm V/LA on weekends. This is in my signature, so there's literally no excuse for not realizing this. If you're expecting me to put actual effort into a game when I'm not around, and really only checking the forums at inconsistent times, you're sorely mistaken.

Your gut read on me is entirely wrong as well. Sorry to say it.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #38) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:13 am

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In post 341, Superb Subtlety wrote:I didn't make the vote on Korina with an actual scumread there
Just had reasonable chance of flipping scum when I've got some townreads elsewhere in the game, and that's enough for me to vote Korina

However, I think all the incorrect assumptions that Korina has made and the stubborn insistence on maintaining them could well be town!Korina
This isn't something that's exclusive to Town!Me. This is something that's related to me being a very emotion-based player, and the fact I'm very reluctant to concede a position I genuinely believe in. Because this is singleball, yea, this is something that's more likely to come from Town!Me, just because Scum!Me would likely have considered these things already. As scum, I tend to put more thought into my play to try to seem townie, whereas when I'm town, I just say fuck it a lot of the time and don't plan.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #39) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:13 am

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In post 355, WhemeStar wrote:The king is wondering if he should claim
I'm just wondering what the deal is with your posts, and why you're referring to yourself as "the king"
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Post Post #405 (isolation #40) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 360, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I don't see scum claiming coroner here. This is a pretty odd role to claim. I get it seems desperate but the way they claim and how the claim just screams sincerity to me. Maybe I am just being the naive here but I dont think I can vote Korino. want to give her at least another day to be sorted.

I am confused by Mastina ranking system which seems to only based on the Koala game. Then again i think she did the same thing in the Steven Universe mafia when there was an in-game involve and she was town there as well. Based on meta Mastina is prob town but I do not trust meta so......

Wheme you should not claim....it will only help scum. You are not in any danger right now so claiming is a bad move here.

UNVOTE: Mastina
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Post Post #406 (isolation #41) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:17 am

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Does your role actually have a PR, or are you just faking it for shits and giggles wheme?
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Post Post #408 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:21 am

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ok, tell me then, what are your reads?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #43) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:23 am

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i'm asking who do you think is town, and scum.
i really don't give a fuck about what you are.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #44) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:31 pm

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so, question: why town godfather?

like, coroner for dog makes sense, since you bury a body in a hole, and dogs dig holes, so it'd make sense i'd dig up our last elim, but how does someone who appears innocent while being scum make sense for a snow leopard?
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Post Post #463 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:35 pm

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well, like most other cats according to google, it sleeps most of the day.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:35 pm

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i'm not throwing shade, and i'm just asking a question?
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Post Post #465 (isolation #47) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:35 pm

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the fact you instantly jumped on me asking "how does a town godfather relate to snow leopard" and framing it as i'm throwing shade really makes me distrust you now
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Post Post #466 (isolation #48) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:36 pm

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literally, i'm just trying to figure out how someone gets town godfather from a snow leopard
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Post Post #467 (isolation #49) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 pm

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if you're talking about the fact i'm literally describing what the godfather role does, to try to make sense of this, and saying that's me throwing shade, you clearly cannot read.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #50) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:38 pm

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the fact you made a post before deciding "hey korina can be scum for doing this" is also highly questionable
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Post Post #471 (isolation #51) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:41 pm

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ok, but like, you can at least get some semblance of what krazy was thinking, yea?
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Post Post #475 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:42 pm

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In post 470, Noraabear wrote:
In post 463, Korina wrote:well, like most other cats according to google, it sleeps most of the day.
Ok and what role even remotely matches that description?

Flavor hunting is absolutely useless and I don't think anyone questioning flavor is town.
look, you literally asked "what are snow leopards even known for doing"
i googled it, and answered your question.
what more do you want from me?

i'm literally trying to figure out in what universe a town godfather makes sense.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:44 pm

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ok, i'm going to make this post to prevent any further confusion:

@penguin, you said your ability was a stretch. are you able to at least figure out some train of thought/logic that would've lead krazy to your ability? yes or no?

@norra, i also googled "what do snow leopards do" and one of the first results is literally sleep for 18+ hrs a day. the only role i can think of that would be anywhere close to this is a delayed role of some sort, (since you're spending the day sleeping.) beyond that, i have no idea.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:44 pm

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i'm just as confused about a town godfather as you are, and that's why i wanna try to figure it out.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #55) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:46 pm

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the only other thing i could remotely think of that would lead to a town godfather is krazy using godfather as a really weird fucking way to say bulletproof and investigation immune, which would make sense since snow leopards live in snowy areas, and would be able to camouflage well.

pedit: ok, that answers a lot.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:47 pm

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tbf, i really didn't read the setup details, i just saw it was an animal upick and i decided to join because i wanted to submit dog.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #57) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:52 pm

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Ok, so, I just decided to check the site on a whim before going to bed, we’re still good to continue right?
If so,
@mod, v/la today, (wednesday), and thursday. Friend is coming to visit.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:40 am

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I’m currently on break at work, so I’m going to quickly mobile post this, and I’ll explain later:
Superb I’m going to treat as a mod confirmed IC
And mastina is just scum I feel

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Post Post #754 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:43 am

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I wanna see vc before voting rathe.
I’m good with yeeting them from existence
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Post Post #755 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:44 am

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Also King, are you a janitor vigi?
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Post Post #822 (isolation #61) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:30 am

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Superb, who’s scum in your eyes?
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Post Post #945 (isolation #62) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:16 pm

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prodge, I haven't had any of my sleep medicine, and have been working. will continue playing after my v/la this weekend.
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #63) » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:40 am

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VOTE: fuzzy

I’m checking thw thread due to it being close to deadline
E-1, as well.

I only want a flip today to use my role.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #64) » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:51 am

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Game is confirmed single ball
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #65) » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:51 am

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No sk
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #66) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:07 am

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I got no information from my ability, just the flip that was posted, so there’s nothing hidden on TFL’s role.
They were in fact a scum dayvig.
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #67) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:30 pm

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Oh boy, I’m heading back home and I’ll read and catchup. Fmpov and what I’ve read, we have scum in {SS, MHTP}, yea? What’s stopping us from eliminating one and if it’s not scum eliminating the other as well?
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #68) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 1127, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:why play mafia

when you can play

KOALAWANG

LET'S PLAY KOALAWANG!
Why, just why.
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #69) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 1157, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Oh before I read and no doubt get distracted again, my ultility is spent and I will fullclaim.

I am a Dormouse; a 1-shot combined loyal neighbouriser and compulsive hider, Smoke and Mirrors was my target last night, I have had no response from my action. My understanding of my role PM is that I will resolve before all other actions.
You're still a hider, no? Or is the hider a part of your 1-shot neighborizor? Your wording of this role pm is really vague and I don't like that.
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #70) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 1161, Battle Mage wrote:well i can confirm most of it haha
Oh cool, so this is now 2 for 1. I also doubt there's a framer or some other role if mafia have a day-vig, and we have a janitor in the game.
I really do doubt two scum come out to try to elim a single townie however.

I'm still all for eliming S&M today just to confirm both MHTP and BM. If S&M is town, they're both scum. If S&M is scum, they're both town.
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #71) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 1189, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1180, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:I am indeed NAR 1. I was unsure if I would be permitted to proclaim that part of my role.

My understanding of the loyal modifier is that my action only succeeds when I target someone of the same alignment, my claim therefore enforces a 1vs1 scenario which is such a suboptimal play to the point of a potential game throw as scum.
I don’t understand then because there’s no way that shouldn’t have succeeded. Something weird is happening. Maybe similar to DnD where Wisdom had this crazy role that subverted things.

So, I think your result must have somehow been tampered with by scum, so probably shouldn’t have reacted like that but brainbomb on MU tried to run me up with a fake guilty but I think BM suddenly jumping on me like that is hella sus, so I think he’s a better elim.
That is a possibility, but we have two people vouching that you're scum, which makes eliming you the objectively better option here IMO.
Like I said before, I also really doubt mafia have a framer. If anyone has that type of ability though, they should absolutely claim now.
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 1220, Battle Mage wrote:can we just elim this already? :roll:

i'm done for the day i think
As much as I want to as well, we need to confirm if anyone has any role that is a framer or fucks with cop results.
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #73) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 1222, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1217, Superb Subtlety wrote:It doesn't matter what you say is possible here- we have a scenario that very strongly points to you being scum and you can't influence that scenario.

On the positive side for you, I think it's highly likely that if MHTP was blocked here in some way it was by town rather than scum

A scum roleblocker or similar would have been on Mastina
Okay, I would prefer not to out this but if we’re going to get run up I suppose I will have to. :/
If you have any information that would prove MHTP is lying, you should've claimed it
as soon as
they said you were scum. Maybe at latest when BM claimed a clear on them.
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:25 pm

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In post 1261, mastina wrote: Battle Mage isn't hardclaiming his investigative role, nor should he, but he is vouching for MHTP in a way that is incredibly unlikely to be scum--so a fairly high chance of being town here. Narrows it down further to this:
IIRC, they claimed cop, if not indirectly claimed cop by saying they had a guilty on S&M. Based on the roles thus far, it'd make sense that town would likely have a normal cop to balance out things.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 1286, mastina wrote:
In post 1283, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1118, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1116, mastina wrote:I literally posted a picture of a flame here, as about as unsubtle of a "I'm a phoenix" 'crumb you can get.
could you explain what you mean by - and how that is - a crumb?
Mastina - could you please answer this?
I thought you were being facetious there.
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And this isn't even all of the google search results for phoenix.

I think I've made my point on how flames are a phoenix 'crumb. :P
@mastina, please please please use the spoiler tag if you're going to post a lot of images like that.

@mod can you please spoil the images in 1286 for all of our sakes?
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:28 pm

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I still stand by killing S&M today because that clears two slots, and gives information.
I think we just take today to discuss then, yea?
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:52 am

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In post 1258, mastina wrote:
In post 1188, Superb Subtlety wrote:Sorry Nancy, but it's actually a very plausible guilty and I'm still not sure of your alignment here
If you're town, just sit and hope there's an explanation someone is willing to give because nothing else can realistically be done
If nothing changes I can see myself voting you when I've had more time to use the day phase
Basically, this.

I am not 100% sure Smoke/Mirrors is town or scum.
But barring any other explanation. Lightning rod, rolestopper targeting Smoke/Mirrors, roleblocker targeting Mad Hatters Tea Party, alien targeting either S/M or MHTP, busdriver driving S/M with someone else, redirector. (Most of which if existing would probably be scum disinclined to claim their result.)
The mechanical guilty is not something we can ignore.

If nobody comes forward with an explanation for the failure, the possibilities are only, 1: scum caused the failure, or, 2: the failure was due to targeting scum and getting a guilty.

The possibility of the latter is too strong to ignore.

So I believe that Smoke/Mirrors should, 100%, be the elimination today because it's either a guilty or gives us information about the scum's PRs, confirming they have a Manipulation-category role. The former puts us in a position to possibly have a literally perfect town game with zero town deaths and three dead scum; the latter, while costing us the life of a town player, gives us a small cautionary tale and lets us know that scum have a method to interfere with our roles.

Given we're so early into the day--it feels premature to end the day on a Smoke and Mirrors elimination; we should give it time, let people post, get collected, all and all in general talk, discuss, get any info out that they feel they need to get out, air any suspicions they feel they need to give, etc. (Thus why I'm not voting right now.)

But Smoke and Mirrors absolutely
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(Plus on a side note. They're one of the only slots who'd kill either me or Superb Subtlety N1. Other players could kill the Ali/jjh hydra, but Smoke/Mirrors is legit the only slot who I could see targeting either of us, honestly.)
Lightning rod isn’t possible, because unless I’m secretly strongwilled, I got TFL’s role PM as my feedback. If someone did interfere with S&M, they absolutely should claim they did so as well.
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:58 am

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In post 1343, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1336, Korina wrote:
In post 1258, mastina wrote:
In post 1188, Superb Subtlety wrote:Sorry Nancy, but it's actually a very plausible guilty and I'm still not sure of your alignment here
If you're town, just sit and hope there's an explanation someone is willing to give because nothing else can realistically be done
If nothing changes I can see myself voting you when I've had more time to use the day phase
Basically, this.

I am not 100% sure Smoke/Mirrors is town or scum.
But barring any other explanation. Lightning rod, rolestopper targeting Smoke/Mirrors, roleblocker targeting Mad Hatters Tea Party, alien targeting either S/M or MHTP, busdriver driving S/M with someone else, redirector. (Most of which if existing would probably be scum disinclined to claim their result.)
The mechanical guilty is not something we can ignore.

If nobody comes forward with an explanation for the failure, the possibilities are only, 1: scum caused the failure, or, 2: the failure was due to targeting scum and getting a guilty.

The possibility of the latter is too strong to ignore.

So I believe that Smoke/Mirrors should, 100%, be the elimination today because it's either a guilty or gives us information about the scum's PRs, confirming they have a Manipulation-category role. The former puts us in a position to possibly have a literally perfect town game with zero town deaths and three dead scum; the latter, while costing us the life of a town player, gives us a small cautionary tale and lets us know that scum have a method to interfere with our roles.

Given we're so early into the day--it feels premature to end the day on a Smoke and Mirrors elimination; we should give it time, let people post, get collected, all and all in general talk, discuss, get any info out that they feel they need to get out, air any suspicions they feel they need to give, etc. (Thus why I'm not voting right now.)

But Smoke and Mirrors absolutely
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(Plus on a side note. They're one of the only slots who'd kill either me or Superb Subtlety N1. Other players could kill the Ali/jjh hydra, but Smoke/Mirrors is legit the only slot who I could see targeting either of us, honestly.)
Lightning rod isn’t possible, because unless I’m secretly strongwilled, I got TFL’s role PM as my feedback. If someone did interfere with S&M, they absolutely should claim they did so as well.
You got TFL’s role pm? What?
I’m a coroner. I check a dead player at night and receive their role PM, including any missing information. This information obviously doesn’t include things like other names in the PM or whatnot. Have you not read anything I’ve said?
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:52 am

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tbf, I'm 99.9% sure mastina is town. Why would scum have a bodyguard that confirms themselves?
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:53 am

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Like, I get because we have a vigi, but that just seems so pointless to counteract a single role
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:04 am

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Yea, I agree. Anyways, I'm going back to cleaning my apartment out because today is my day off.
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:43 pm

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In post 1530, WhemeStar wrote:Next person who steals pagerop gets eaten
there's a joke here and i'm not sure what it is
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #83) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:42 am

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In post 1571, Superb Subtlety wrote:Korina has dodged the question twice :(
I would’ve said so if I got it. As well, I already answered the question about any feedback I got, which just stated I got only TFL’s PM. No videos. I would have said “I also got something else,” if I did.
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #84) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:43 am

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If I got the badger video, I’d have likely assumed it was a flavored FN notification and just said “whoever the badger is, is town,” or something to that effect.
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #85) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:56 am

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how does ss die?
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #86) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:57 am

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unless i missed it somewhere, mastina can still target ss
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Post Post #1590 (isolation #87) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:10 am

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I thought their bp was one shot.
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #88) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:57 pm

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S&M also lied about having a redirection of some sort.
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #89) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:42 pm

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Oh the day is still going? I’ll also hammer at around 4 p.m. EDT, (~17 hours), if nobody has yet.
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #90) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:44 pm

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Ask nicely Peng
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #91) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:44 pm

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Oh wait you did, and I must oblige because you asked nicely

VOTE: S&M
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #92) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:55 am

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Nothing special on S&M. Whoever was the cop, post your results please and ty
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Post Post #1767 (isolation #93) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:08 am

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Wheme, did you shoot last night?
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #94) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:44 am

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Mobile posting from work, but I think the current elim is Wheme because with two mafia out of three dead, I’d have shot a scumread last night and hope the game ends.
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #95) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:45 am

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Based on flavor, I think we just kill Wheme. If he’s town, that’s fine, we still go into the next day with basically two ICs, and if he’s scum, cool we win.
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #96) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:53 am

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They can roar pretty damn loudly
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #97) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:55 am

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VOTE: wheme

Ok, I’ll be back after work
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Post Post #1812 (isolation #98) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:11 am

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You should’ve shot last night. The entire fact you didn’t makes you scum in my eyes. Had you shot, and had we had a mafia kill alongside it, I’d have believed you were town. You didn’t so die. Or concede if you’re mafia.
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #99) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:15 am

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Then the fuck are you?
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #100) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:33 am

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Yes you do
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Post Post #1818 (isolation #101) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:39 am

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Then die
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #102) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:41 am

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BM, vote Wheme
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Post Post #1821 (isolation #103) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:42 am

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If we’re going to massclaim, I want Wheme to claim first or die first.
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #104) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:40 am

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I've already full-claimed:
I'm a dog, and a coroner.
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #105) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:48 am

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Oh, I see. ggs then.
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #106) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:51 am

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wheme what were you?
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #107) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:35 am

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God your back must hurt from carrying all of us Alisae.
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #108) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:44 pm

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In post 2012, WhemeStar wrote:I imagine korina was more bored though
Oh yea, I was really considering replacing out. After we got TFL out, and d2 begun, I was kinda interested, but really didn't care at all.
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Post Post #2017 (isolation #109) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:44 pm

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Also, I wanna address this from the dead pt:
TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:BTW I hate how they bullied Korina in this game and I would not let Alisai or JJ play in one of the games I would mod. That has to do with their personal action ad not to do on their game play

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Post Post #2019 (isolation #110) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 2016, Korina wrote:
In post 2012, WhemeStar wrote:I imagine korina was more bored though
Oh yea, I was really considering replacing out. After we got TFL out, and d2 begun, I was kinda interested, but really didn't care at all.
I was gonna try to solve in my notes PT, but I got through part of d1 solving, and then just stopped.
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Post Post #2022 (isolation #111) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:49 pm

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Hang on, let me get a quote from my note PT.
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #112) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:50 pm

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In post 9, Korina wrote:I'm going to vent this in here, just because this is actually related to the game at hand:

JJ, I don't know what it is about your personality, but jfc you make it insanely hard for me to actually keep a level-head. I know I'm a very emotional player. That's just my playstyle to these types of games. There's literally nothing I can do about that, beyond just not playing. Vex is the blatant attempt to not be as emotional, but even then, when playing as Vex, it's hard for me to keep my cool when playing with someone like you.
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #113) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:51 pm

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Now that it's passed, I don't really care that much, but that's mostly just because I didn't really care for this game at all.
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #114) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:53 pm

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