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Newbie 2057: Mars! - End!

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:38 am

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Newbie 2057 - Mars!

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In honor of the Mars Perseverance mission, this game is dedicated to the mythology, history, exploration and science of the Red Planet.

The flavor is purely for your enjoyment (and mine!), and has no effect whatsoever on the NewD3 newbie game setup and rules.


Player List (9)

Kazyan

CreativeName

SAMCRO

six pomegranate seeds
GriffNotGraph

Andante
Megan Thee Stallion

T3

PookyTheMagicalBear
(SE)
WhemeStar
(SE)
skitter30
(SE)

bold
= confirmed
* = prod


Spoiler: Alive
Kazyan
WhemeStar


Spoiler: Dead

PookyTheMagicalBear,
Vanilla Townie
, was eliminated on Day 1.
T3,
Town Jailkeeper
, was killed on Night 1.
SAMCRO,
Vanilla Townie
, was eliminated on Day 2.
Andante,
Vanilla Townie
, was killed on Night 2.
CreativeName,
Vanilla Townie
, was eliminated on Day 3.
six pomegranate seeds,
Vanilla Townie
, was endgamed on Day 3.
skitter30,
Vanilla Townie
, was endgamed on Day 3.


Spoiler: Banished
Let's not go there


Spoiler: Vote Counter Settings
Living PlayersKazyan
CreativeName (replaces Creative)
six pomegranate seeds (replaces seeds, GriffNotGraph)
WhemeStar
skitter30


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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:40 am

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5



Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:41 am

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Rules:


In-Game Behavior


1.
Site Rules are in effect. Please familiarize yourself and follow them.


2. Posts consisting purely of insults without game content are not tolerated. I penalize such posts with a strike. Three strikes and you're out. Severe issues will be reported to the listmods.

3. Claiming scum is allowed. Claiming scum with another player (whether as a joke or not) will result in severe consequences for you, and consequences for your team.

4. Play towards your win condition. Gambits are fine, directly harming your own team is not.

5. Loophole abuse is not tolerated.

6. Have fun! There are a lot of great people who play, discuss mafia game theory and practice, and discuss life, the universe and everything, too, here at Mafiascum.net. During and after this game, please take a look around the site and get to know us. I think you'll like what you see.


Voting and Deadlines:



1. Voting must be bolded in the form
Vote: Player
- bold tags

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Player[/b]
or

VOTE: Player vote tags

Code: Select all

[vote]Player[/vote]


or else they will not be counted. Unvotes are not required to change your vote, but they are helpful. Please note: I'm using an automated vote counter.
If you don't use the vote tags, be sure to add a colon after the word "Vote".


2. Votes inside of spoiler tags will not be counted.

3. I don't mind if you use nicknames/abbreviations when you vote someone. But if I have no idea who you're voting for, then the vote won't be counted. Please note: the vote counting application may be more finicky about nicknames than I am. If you notice that your vote hasn't been recorded, please let me know.

4. Eliminations require a majority of votes: (number of living players/2) +1, rounded down.

5. If there's no majority at deadline, there's no elimination.

6. When the hammer vote is cast, all players, including the eliminated may talk freely until the final vote count and eliminated player's card-flip have been posted. I will lock the game thread at that time.

6. Once you are dead, you may not post in the game thread again. Not even a "Bah" post.

7. Deadlines are set at 10 days on Day 1 and 7 days for subsequent game days. and Extensions may be granted if there are replacements near deadline, or under other extraordinary circumstances (e.g., site outages, major holidays).


Prods and Replacements:


Replacing Out
If you need to replace out of this game, send me a private message about it. Do NOT post that you want to be replaced, or that you have asked to be replaced in the game thread.
I will acknowledge your replacement request by replying to your PM. From that time forward, you are out of the game. Do not make any posts in the game thread.

This is a site rule that can entail penalties if broken. It applies to all mafia games at Mafiascum.net unless the game moderator explicitly states otherwise.



1. Prods will be given if you do not post in
36 hours
.

2. You will be replaced if you either do not respond to a prod, or need to be prodded more than 3 times total. You may request for a player to be prodded at any time. Prods requested when a player has been absent for less than 36 hours do not count for replacement purposes.

3. If you are V/LA (on vacation/have limited access), make sure I know. If you are V/LA for more than a week, I suggest requesting replacement, but it's not required. If a lengthy V/LA is adversely affecting the game (e.g., if you are not able to post minimally during that time), then your mod may replace you.without penalty.


Misc.



1. Dark Blue (#004080) is the color I will use for mod posts. Please don’t use this color or otherwise try to make your posts look like mod posts.

2. You can talk about the game in the private threads given to you via PM, assuming you were given one. Otherwise, please refrain from talking about this game outside of this thread, and don't talk about other games inside of this game. This is a sitewide rule. See announcement here.


3. No editing, deleting, using invisible texts, write in code, using font sizes less than 70, etc...

4. Don't quote or talk about any mod-recieved PMs. Your flavor is for you to enjoy and you only, until the end of the game.

5. I make mistakes. If you notice I make one, please let me know.

6. Questions are vastly preferable to Modkills. If you're thinking about to do something that you're unsure is within the letter or spirit of these rules and the game of mafia, then ask me privately about it first.


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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:41 am

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Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:40 pm

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This is the Pregame Phase. I'll send out Role Private Messages (PMs) during the next few hours. Please respond to your Role PM with your alignment (Town or Mafia) and Role Name to confirm that you have received it.

You have 48 hours from the time I send you the Role PM to respond. If you cannot respond by then, I will seek a replacement.

Once 8 of the 9 players have confirmed via PM reply, the game will begin!

I'll update this post as we progress through Pregame.

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All Role PMs
will go out shortly
have gone out!

8 of 9 players have confirmed.

Day 1 will begin momentarily!

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Post Post #5 (isolation #5) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:46 pm

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Vote Count 1-1
Day 1 Begins!


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In 2016, the Jet Propulsion Lab commissioned some artwork -- a series of recruitment posters for recruiting new employees for future jobs on Mars. These posters join an earlier series of travel posters for vacations in the solar system and beyond.



Not Voting
(9): PookyTheMagicalBear, Kazyan, Megan Thee Stallion, SAMCRO, T3, CreativeName, WhemeStar, GriffNotGraph, skitter30


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: March 12, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-11 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Megan Thee Stallion has 40 hours in which to post before I must search for a replacement. (expired on 2021-03-03 13:45:32)
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Post Post #49 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:06 pm

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Post Post #50 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:06 pm

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Vote Count 1-2
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"Inquire within!"



PookyTheMagicalBear
(2): SAMCRO, WhemeStar
WhemeStar
(2): Kazyan, PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting
(5): Megan Thee Stallion, T3, skitter30, GriffNotGraph, CreativeName


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: March 12, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-11 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Megan Thee Stallion has (expired on 2021-03-03 13:45:32) in which to post before I must search for a replacement.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:24 am

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One more JPL Mars "Help Wanted" ad, and then I promise I'll move onward!



PookyTheMagicalBear
(3): SAMCRO, WhemeStar, CreativeName
WhemeStar
(1): PookyTheMagicalBear
skitter30
(1): T3

Not Voting
(4): GriffNotGraph, Megan Thee Stallion, Kazyan, skitter30


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: March 12, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-11 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Megan Thee Stallion has (expired on 2021-03-03 13:45:32) in which to post before I must search for a replacement.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:37 pm

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Mycenaean Greeks called the planet Mars Ἄρεως ἀστἡρ (Areos aster), or "star of Ares". Ares was the god of War in the Greek pantheon. I was today years old when I learned that Hellenistic Greeks also called Mars Πυρόεις Pyroeis, meaning "fiery". :o



PookyTheMagicalBear
(3): WhemeStar, CreativeName, GriffNotGraph
WhemeStar
(1): PookyTheMagicalBear
skitter30
(1): T3
CreativeName
(1): SAMCRO

Not Voting
(3): Megan Thee Stallion, Kazyan, skitter30

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: March 12, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-11 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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Post Post #203 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:57 pm

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Where did the Greeks get the idea that the planet Mars was associated with Ares? Possibly from the Babylonians. In Babylonian astronomy, the planet was named after Nergal, their deity of fire, war, destruction, and the netherworld, possibly due to the planet's reddish appearance



PookyTheMagicalBear
(5): WhemeStar, CreativeName, GriffNotGraph, SAMCRO, T3
WhemeStar
(1): PookyTheMagicalBear
SAMCRO
(1): skitter30

Not Voting
(2): Megan Thee Stallion, Kazyan

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: March 12, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-11 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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An Elimination has been Achieved!
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Post Post #204 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:12 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear was a
Vanilla Townie
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Night 1 begins now and night actions are due by Midnight, Friday, March 5. Deadline: (expired on 2021-03-04 21:00:00).

If you have a night action please send it to me via PM before the deadline.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #12) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:00 pm

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T3 was a
Town Jailkeeper
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Post Post #206 (isolation #13) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:00 pm

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This is one of the first photographs sent back from Mars Perseverance, moments after landing on February 20



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Post Post #234 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:21 pm

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In Egyptian mythology the planet Mars was called Harakhty, which translates as "Horus of the Horizon", with horizon meaning the area lit by the sun's light just before dawn. The planet was also called Her Deshur, meaning Horus the Red. Horus appears to have been a syncretic deity. In different contexts he was referred to as a god of kingship, of the sky, and of war.



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Post Post #267 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:22 pm

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In post 262, skitter30 wrote:
@ffery can we get prods on megan and griff plz? neither have posted yet today
prods will go out in a few hours. Newbie weekend rules for prods are in effect right now.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:27 pm

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GriffNotGraph and Megan Thee Stallion have been prodded.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:33 pm

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In Hindu mythology, the planet Mars was called Mangala, after the Hindu god of anger and aggression. I'm sensing a pattern here...



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Post Post #304 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:27 pm

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Searching for replacements for GriffNotGraph and Megan Thee Stallion.

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Post Post #307 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:02 am

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six pomegranate seeds replaces GriffNotGraph. Please welcome him!

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Post Post #325 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:06 am

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Andante replaces Megan Thee Stallion. Please welcome them!

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Post Post #327 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:29 am

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The planet Mars has inspired fictional accounts since before the term "science fiction" existed. One of the first novels about the planet was "Across the Zodiac", by Percy Greg, published in 1880. Greg is also known as an originator of a genre of fiction called Sword and Planet. In the novel, an unnamed narrator flew his ship, the Astronaut, to Mars using an anti-gravitational energy called apergy. The planet was inhabited by a race of diminutive beings who believed there was no life elsewhere in the universe, beyond their own planet. The novel also featured an alien language -- possibly the first of its kind.

Interested in reading it? You can find it at Project Gutenberg.


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Post Post #330 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:37 am

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In post 328, Kazyan wrote:Mod, six pomegranate seeds voted for Skitter.
Fixed, thanks!
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Post Post #401 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:36 pm

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This is just a reiteration that it's against the rules to refer to other games that are ongoing. Be careful going forward that games you mention have been finished and the game moderator has declared a winner. More about the rule here.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #24) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:07 pm

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A Martian fighting-machine battling with HMS Thunder Child. (1906), by Henrique Alvim Corréa for an illustrated version of the novel


One of the most famous of the early works of fiction about Mars is "War of the Worlds" by H.G. Wells. Unlike "Across the Zodiac", Well's novel was set on Earth and posited a terrifying invasion from the Red Planet. Perhaps more famous than the novel itself, is the radio dramatization of the novel by Orson Welles in 1938. Some panicked listeners thought the dramatization was real.



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Post Post #458 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:13 am

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SAMCRO has been prodded.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #26) » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:35 pm

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The original book cover illustration by Frank Earle Schoonover


In 1912, Edgar Rice Burroughs (better known for his Tarzan novels) published a serialized story in the All-Story magazine titled "Under the Moons of Mars". It was later published in novel form as "A Princess of Mars". And thus began a series of novels about Barsoom, as the planet was known to its fictional inhabitants. This series is in the genre of science fantasy, specifically planetary romance. The subgenre could be described as sword and sorcery with a few science-y sprinkles here and there. He and his heirs published 11 novels and collections, with the series finale, "Skeleton Men of Jupiter" first published in 1943.



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Post Post #525 (isolation #27) » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:28 pm

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Mariner 4


In March, 1964, Mariner 4 was launched, a mission involving a close fly-by of Mars. This mission sent back detailed imagery and telemetry of a strip of Mars over which the probe made its closest pass, a level of detail of the planet's surface that had previously been impossible. There were no canals. There was hardly any atmosphere. The surface was pitted with craters. And with that, science put the lie to decades of science fiction that had posited a habitable, and even inhabited planet, a place to colonize, an alien civilization. All of those possibilities were put to bed, once and for all.

Or were they?


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Post Post #528 (isolation #28) » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:09 pm

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Post Post #530 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:12 am

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Searching for a replacement for SAMCRO. If he posts before a replacement is found, he can continue.

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Post Post #616 (isolation #30) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:43 pm

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Mars exploration rover, Alexandra Hodgson


Post-Mariner science fiction writers worked with the Mars we were beginning to know, positing grim outposts, grand terraforming experiments, prison colonies, and even alien life forms who swam in vast seas of dust, for whom water was poison. The psychology of living in and exploring harsh environments, cut off from home, too far for quick and easy rescue missions, became major plot points. And meanwhile scientists have learned more and more about the planet and its potential for supporting life.


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Post Post #642 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:44 pm

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"Dome, sweet dome". How far in the future is the first Martian city?


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Post Post #643 (isolation #32) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:50 pm

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Post Post #644 (isolation #33) » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:00 am

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Post Post #645 (isolation #34) » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:01 am

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The Ingenuity is a drone helicopter that hitched a ride on the Mars Perseverance mission. Once a take-off and landing spot has been chosen, the Ingenuity will start exploring how flight in the Mars atmosphere works.



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Post Post #667 (isolation #35) » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:39 am

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In post 663, Kazyan wrote:fferylt, your countdown appears to be off by 1 hour. No big deal.
fixed! (damned daylight savings time)
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Although fiction about colonizing Mars and other planets have featured motifs about Earth becoming over-inhabited or less habitable, scientific exploration efforts themselves haven't made existential concerns a centerpiece of justification. This is changing.



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Post Post #936 (isolation #37) » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:29 pm

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In 2016, National Geographic aired the first episode of a series about Mars that went on for 2 seasons. It was part documentary and part hard science fiction, extrapolating from interviews, discoveries, exploration and commercialization of space in the near past and present to how those discoveries and forces might play out in the near future. In the series, a scientific expedition landed on Mars to found a colony and truly explore how humankind could live on a different and hostile planet. It was a rocky, near disastrous beginning.



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In the Mars docudrama, the existential questions for the colonies were "Is there enough available water? And where IS the water?" The presence of water on Mars is no longer in question, thanks to many exploratory missions. In July, 2018, a small, liquid, lake of water was detected on the planet's surface. The questions of how much water, where, and how accessible all remain to be answered.



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It's hard to tell where documentary ends and fiction begins in some of the near-term plans for exploring and colonizing Mars. In both, there's a wide ribbon of resource exploitation and profit.



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Post Post #1024 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:01 am

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Post Post #1025 (isolation #41) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:01 am

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What would it take to terraform Mars? Many scientists think that current technologies aren't sufficient for that enormous undertaking. Side effects of terraforming include the potential displacement or destruction of indigenous life. In the case of Mars, this could be microbial life. What are the ethical considerations about making the planet uninhabitable for that life?



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Post Post #1086 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:11 pm

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So, the question of whether there is microbial life on Mars is germane to human exploration there. We know there are organic compounds on the planet, which are the buillding blocks of terrestrial life. We know there is liquid water. There is atmosphere, but not much. The conditions for life exist, but is there life?



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Post Post #1087 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:16 pm

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The replacement rules for Newbie games mean that the weekend counts as a single day for prod purposes, but this game day would end before prods could go out. For this reason, I'm going to add a day to the deadline, and go ahead and issue a needed prod.

Kazyan has been prodded.

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Post Post #1124 (isolation #44) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:41 am

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In post 1112, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1087, fferyllt wrote:
The replacement rules for Newbie games mean that the weekend counts as a single day for prod purposes, but this game day would end before prods could go out. For this reason, I'm going to add a day to the deadline, and go ahead and issue a needed prod.

Kazyan has been prodded.

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@ffery is this still in effect? or the old one since kaz came back?
Yes, this one is in effect.
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #45) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:47 pm

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Terraforming Mars will be a process -- a really long process that could take centuries.



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Post Post #1144 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:47 pm

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Whemestar,
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #47) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:49 pm

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Thanks so much for playing!

I'll post the private threads shortly!

Thread reopened.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #48) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:58 pm

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Post Post #1164 (isolation #49) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:16 pm

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Once again, thank you all for playing!

Players, you're encouraged to keep playing newbies as long as you like, of course, but I humbly suggest trying out different games and styles, if you're brave enough and feel like checking out other game styles and sizes!


If you liked the "solve the setup" interactions with a semi-open setup like the NewD3 setup:

Spoiler: Check out the Open queue!
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #50) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:22 pm

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In post 1161, six pomegranate seeds wrote:Thanks Kaz, you were a good mafia.

It's unfortunate that Creative fake claimed - we weren't even going to vote him from my POV lol.

I'm not really sure that forum is for me tbh. I had some free time so it was interesting to try, but it takes soooooo long.

Was nice playing with you guys though. Was an experience.
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If there are aspects of this game that you enjoyed, it might worth trying another game or so and see if you adapt to the pace.
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #51) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:45 am

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In post 1172, CreativeName wrote:I kind of figured it was wheme/kaz at the end as no one was hammering me and so that meant both scum were already on my wagon :S, like even if I was scum I would have quickhammered to stop talking
I wanted to talk about your fake claim and what went wrong with it. There were two main issues:

The person you fake claimed wasn't around to react to it. How SAMCRO reacted to a fake guilty could have given you and the other town players some info for figuring out his alignment. Although if he'd been around on Day 2, his play might have helped in that respect anyway. But, with his absence, the most valuable data from a fake guilty wasn't going to be available.

Even though SAMCRO wasn't around, the way other players reacted was also potentially alignment indicative, though if there had been a tracker or friendly neighbor in the game, they might have counterclaimed you. Being able to look at how other players reacted, how quickly they voted etc., was data, though. If you had treated the fake claim as a gambit, and revealed that after everyone had a chance to react/vote, it might have shaken things up and resulted in a scum elim.

You didn't play the fake as a gambit, though. And that's often a recipe for two mis-elims -- the town player you got elimed and yourself!
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