Newbie 2057: Mars! - End!

[WhemeStar]

Ffery always has the best noobie flavor

VOTE: no bears on Mars

[WhemeStar]

Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!

VOTE: WhemeStar, for being several hundred light years away, probably.

you misspelled skitter

autocorrect is 1 crazy thing

VOTE: skitter

[WhemeStar]

sup am town

Town would be voting skiktter.

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pooky >:(

@ffery i'm vla on fridays/saturdays!
and i love your flavor

Copy cat

VOTE: Skitter

[WhemeStar]

nice fake claim there are no ic's /s

VOTE: pooky

[WhemeStar]

also: heya wheme, it's been a while

Hi skitter long time

[WhemeStar]

I think creative is obv town

I think pooky is scum

[WhemeStar]

Skitter do you have a lot of experience with pooky?

This play from him currently seems fake and sounds like he’s trying to put on a front for no reason.

Unless he does this type of thing every game then that would change my mind.

[WhemeStar]

Nvm creative is not obv town

[WhemeStar]

94 threw me way off

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T3 May I suggest finding an avatar to use? A lot of people on this site use avatars to know who they are talking to ( or at least I do) so having an avatar helps putting a face to the name

[WhemeStar]

94 threw me way off

what exactly about 94 threw you off so much to change your read?

That was a sort of sharpish turn from "obv town" to "maybe not obv town"

I would prefer to not talk about it until later

[WhemeStar]

94 threw me way off

what exactly about 94 threw you off so much to change your read?

That was a sort of sharpish turn from "obv town" to "maybe not obv town"

I would prefer to not talk about it until later

Why is that?

I would prefer to not talk about it until later

[WhemeStar]

94 threw me way off

what exactly about 94 threw you off so much to change your read?

That was a sort of sharpish turn from "obv town" to "maybe not obv town"

I would prefer to not talk about it until later

Why is that?

Something I find interesting too because you never know when you will die, X amount of people could come and hammer you and that thing you were going to say later will never be said. Also it's not townish to withhold info unless it's such as a town result from a cop and you don't want to out yourself yet or a role of a town power

I’m not the type of player who really gets night killed

I also don’t think me getting flash wagoned hammered happens ever

[WhemeStar]

All good creative your more advanced with the forum posting/quoting than I am.

[WhemeStar]

Is there any reason you believe 1 scum is active and 1 scum is inactive?

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I don’t see why you would ever think that unless you have meta on player

[WhemeStar]

Hi im here catching up soon still on like page 7 didn't read the wagon at all.

[WhemeStar]

i think this guy is being fake helpful

I think thats pretty bold considering we just started this game.

I don't think I like this post.

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i will speed hammer pooky if there is another vote on him so we can get creative after when pooky inevitably flips town

I get either scum vibes or mason vibes from this, it's way too early to call flips like this so this is scum trying to make us not eliminate their partner, or a mason who knows pooky is town due to them being their partner, 3rd option is pooky is town and SAMCRO is pushing for a second miselm after a first one

I don't like this post either

[WhemeStar]

Skitter is your only scumread Samcro?

I think samcro is obv town and I don't think scum does what he did there.

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He is WAY to confident for how a newbie scum would play.

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I feel those reads are way too confident for town too, and I know they're wrong, no one is ever 100000% sure someone is scum unless they're cop in a game where they're sane with no invest confusing roles

Do you think newbie scum acts confident with their scumreads?

[WhemeStar]

Megan/Griff do you have any thoughts at all?

[WhemeStar]

Megan/Griff I also suggest finding an avatar as it is very helpful for when others are reading the game to sort players!

[WhemeStar]

i think this guy is being fake helpful

I think thats pretty bold considering we just started this game.

I don't think I like this post.

???

What's wrong with it?

Because when I scumread people for being fluffy it’s usually at the start of the game

[WhemeStar]

WhemeStar, I don't understand how you think. What makes it so obvious that SAMCRO is confident town?

I can agree with him about creative

Scum aren’t so confident in fake reads that he will vote someone else just to get his point across.

Why do you scumread him?

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Creative

obvious tryhard scum

What do you think about griff?

[WhemeStar]

I can agree with him about creative

Scum aren’t so confident in fake reads that he will vote someone else just to get his point across.

Why do you scumread him?

What Pooky said just made a lot of sense to me. I just don't think it's so unreasonable that Charge Into Glorious Battle is a scum strategy in the newbie queue. I'm not sure what to tell you beyond that.

From my experience that's not what happens.

[WhemeStar]

i think megan has viable scum equity too

For what?

[WhemeStar]

i don't really have a good explanation for why i don't like megan here, it's literally gut basically

is it because you have to many townreads so your tryign to poe her into your scum pool?

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I do think they both are going to get replaced though

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@WhemeStar
@Kazyan

do you agree to get creative and skitter once i am elimmed? i wont ping the other two cuz they might be replaced apparently

I would prefer waiting for the 2 missing players to get replaced before any elim.

[WhemeStar]

When would the ia's be replaced on night start or midway through the day, because it feels like wheme is just trying to delay his scum buddies death now

You think Samcro and I are on a team?

[WhemeStar]

I'm currently at a weird spot with Wheme. #91 Wheme calls Creative obv town, when I really didn't think Creative was?? #96 Wheme was like "ok maybe not" that also felt a bit weird idk.

I believe that was when i didn't want to explain my reasonings. Makes sense for it to be weird.

[WhemeStar]

Also welcome Seeds and Andante!

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If not voting Samcro, wheme is acting unlike an SE or feels like he is trying to draw out a day where town is doing nothing

How am I drawing out a day when we needed 2 replacments?

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So my issue with Seeds is I always townread wall posts for 0 reason so I basically townread seeds but I also share very similar reads with seeds, I would probalby change skitter's/creatives spot

[WhemeStar]

I also hate reading wall posts and I end up always scimming them

[WhemeStar]

We needed replacements but you wouldn't let the replacements join at night? why would we need them to join during day, just elim and they can join during the night phase

Because its better for them to join during the day so we get content out of the slots.

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Is this not Samcro's first game? I thought they were a newbie. Their join date is 2/24.

I think Creative is talkign about Skitter

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@andante you can use UNVOTE: [./UV] tags to unvote someone

UNVOTE:

Example on what it looks like

Will catch up after I’m done working

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@andante you can use UNVOTE: [./UV] tags to unvote someone



Example on what it looks like

Will catch up after I’m done working

[WhemeStar]

Oh my fucking god I just fucked up so bad LOL

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I need to get off my phone I’m so sorryp

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Ok im here.

Seeds what do you think of creative?
Andante what do you think of creative?

Im much more confident with a Creative vote here than I am a skitter vote.

[WhemeStar]

TBF I haven't read liek the last 2 pages yet.

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Nvm creative is not obv town

Are you willing to explain this now? This is a pivotal moment in the game imo.

I thought he was big softing a power role.

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Andante wht do you scumread Sam?

I will ISO kaz but iirc he was in my lock town slot until seeds replaced in

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Wheme, where are your reads at right now on everyone?

Samcro seeds kaz town

You idk yet

Creative skitter

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VOTE: Kazyan

You know, honestly? I wonder if Andante is town and he thought I was playing scummy I should use that as a reference point. I wonder if Kazayan TR me because he is scum. I guess Wheme also TR me though. But I do feel like when I am being attacked by town it's more common for maf to come to my defense. I may be open to this vote tbh.

Crazy question: would it be best to just flip SAM here? If he is town like I think I think he is going to be miselimed like for sure in ELO. And if he is scum then I will lose the game in ELO voting with him. At least flipping SAM here would give us a little bit of information, like to me him flipping blue would make Wheme a pretty strong town, and I feel like Andante feels like a town right now. Also I feel like letting someone win as scum the way SAM played is just bad for the game. And this way I won't feel guilty for throwing if you guys were right that he was scum. Just a thought.

You know what I'm not going to play that game. SAM town, if he's scum I lose.

I wouldn’t go that far with my townread on SAM. Why would you?

The townirsy person here is probably you

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Kazyan

You know, honestly? I wonder if Andante is town and he thought I was playing scummy I should use that as a reference point. I wonder if Kazayan TR me because he is scum. I guess Wheme also TR me though. But I do feel like when I am being attacked by town it's more common for maf to come to my defense. I may be open to this vote tbh.

Crazy question: would it be best to just flip SAM here? If he is town like I think I think he is going to be miselimed like for sure in ELO. And if he is scum then I will lose the game in ELO voting with him. At least flipping SAM here would give us a little bit of information, like to me him flipping blue would make Wheme a pretty strong town, and I feel like Andante feels like a town right now. Also I feel like letting someone win as scum the way SAM played is just bad for the game. And this way I won't feel guilty for throwing if you guys were right that he was scum. Just a thought.

You know what I'm not going to play that game. SAM town, if he's scum I lose.

I wouldn’t go that far with my townread on SAM. Why would you?

The townirsy person here is probably you

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Creative

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VOTE: Kazyan

You know, honestly? I wonder if Andante is town and he thought I was playing scummy I should use that as a reference point. I wonder if Kazayan TR me because he is scum. I guess Wheme also TR me though. But I do feel like when I am being attacked by town it's more common for maf to come to my defense. I may be open to this vote tbh.

Crazy question: would it be best to just flip SAM here? If he is town like I think I think he is going to be miselimed like for sure in ELO. And if he is scum then I will lose the game in ELO voting with him. At least flipping SAM here would give us a little bit of information, like to me him flipping blue would make Wheme a pretty strong town, and I feel like Andante feels like a town right now. Also I feel like letting someone win as scum the way SAM played is just bad for the game. And this way I won't feel guilty for throwing if you guys were right that he was scum. Just a thought.

You know what I'm not going to play that game. SAM town, if he's scum I lose.

I wouldn’t go that far with my townread on SAM. Why would you?

The townirsy person here is probably you

Lol man, I really hope this isn't a pocket. What moment did you think was towniest from me?

I believe I answered this

[WhemeStar]

Can we please vote creative

[WhemeStar]

I’m very confident he doesn’t flip green

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Ok, I really hate the "well we know sam and creative is a 50/50 for scum, if we vote out town in them just get the other tomorrow" I fail to see how we know for sure there is a 50/50 there, and

Sometimes things are obvious when it’s town vs town, scum vs scum, or town vs scum. Saying that isn’t really AI

[WhemeStar]

Know what, I kinda just want to hammer Creative. is that a bad thought? Like, we gain something from a creative flip yes?

I haven’t really thought about what happens if creative flips town because there is no possibility for me that he does.

[WhemeStar]

Every post he makes just reinforces my scumread on him like I don’t see it coming from town

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I’m confident in San being green so idrc if replacement comes during day or night unlike the other 2 slots

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Ok if you don't want me gone just yet that's ok too I guess

It makes me feel happy that I may have a chance to prove my innocence

This feels so fake

[WhemeStar]

Wheme how does it feel fake? also how confident are you that sam flips green, percentage wise?

I can’t think in percentages he’s my 2nd hardest townread

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Is it had that i'm thinking wheme/sam rn?

Wheme feels off right now. "Haven't even thought about Creative flipping town"

I mean, I can see the 1 scum in Creative/Sam but I could also see them as both town. I feel bad for whoever subs into Sam.. gonna be a rough battle for them lmao

Creative is making up bs reasons on why sam is scum and his reactions feel overreactionary and fake

If you think that comes from town that’s fine

[WhemeStar]

If I was mafia you’d be my night kill creative

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I thought you were HEAVILY softing a power role day 1 which is why I rolled back my townread of you to try and grt scum to not kill you

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Now I no longer think you are a power role I think you are scum

[WhemeStar]

also notice how wheme said we shouldn't hammer samcro and wait for a replacement but now when it's me to be hammered he is eager tho elim me and not wait on a replacement who may leak themselves as scum?

This is blatantly not true. Please vote this off

[WhemeStar]

Now I no longer think you are a power role I think you are scum

when did you stop thinking he was an pr?

Stsrt of day 2 when he was heavy set up speculating

[WhemeStar]

Because if I say your obv town when I think your a power role along with skitter saying your obv town then that makes you a better night kill as you would be a town read slot

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also notice how wheme said we shouldn't hammer samcro and wait for a replacement but now when it's me to be hammered he is eager tho elim me and not wait on a replacement who may leak themselves as scum?

This is blatantly not true. Please vote this off

It is true lol

When samcro was gonna be hammered you said "we should wait for the replacements to arrive"

Now I am at E-1 and you want it to hammer and not wait for samcro's replacement which is inconsistent behaviour

Because Samcro has posted content. At the time those 2 slots haven’t produced any content so it’s better to wait for replacements then. I thought this was obvioisb

[WhemeStar]

wheme i'm kinda starting to sr you ngl

You can vote me since you aren’t gonna vote creative

[WhemeStar]

also notice how wheme said we shouldn't hammer samcro and wait for a replacement but now when it's me to be hammered he is eager tho elim me and not wait on a replacement who may leak themselves as scum?

This is blatantly not true. Please vote this off

It is true lol

When samcro was gonna be hammered you said "we should wait for the replacements to arrive"

Now I am at E-1 and you want it to hammer and not wait for samcro's replacement which is inconsistent behaviour

Because Samcro has posted content. At the time those 2 slots haven’t produced any content so it’s better to wait for replacements then. I thought this was obvioisb

Samcro hasn't posted since new info/reads came up, t's been a few irl days since he posted so that's not obvious, we'd want that slot's opinions before we decide on the final lynch

This is scum

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wheme why did you think he was a pr again?

sorry, did you answer this?

94

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I mean it depends on the strength of the read, a small read would definitely be reasonable on anyone by anyone, but a strong one this early is more likely pocketing or some nefarious tactic especially considering I have done nothing too townish yet, however we must remember mason possibility this game and that will also affect people's reads, I am not saying me and skitter are masons but it is something to look for in people's later reads. also cops definitely with experience will include their results in their reads, But as it's only D1 with no headstart there should be no invest results.

this was almost a vt soft imo
meh ok i agree that you probably kill him last night tho

We can agree to disagree
Regardless I think he’s flailing currrently and his logic is making 0 sense

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UNVOTE:

I hate my life

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I’m VT btw

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Samcro being scum makes me think his partner cannot be skitter.

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I don’t think you let Samcro kill n1

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Uhm what that is not something I would say I dont use perfect gammar

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Wheme, Kazayan if you TR me please vote SAMCRO. You're outted scum otherwise

no

[WhemeStar]

I think its better to wait for a samcro replacemnet

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Is it even better

IDK

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I think everyone should have a chance to counter claim at least

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whatever ffery now you dont have to find a replacement VOTE: samcro

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Am I being trolled

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I catch scum on like page 5 and the reward I get is being their partner

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I thought it was fairly obvious who scum were but I guess not

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Kazyan can you put into words why you think I’m scum in 1 post

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Idrc about convincing seeds I’m not scum I think I only need to convince you

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Idrc about convincing seeds I’m not scum I think I only need to convince you

Well if you're town then this game is over and you might as well self vote because I'm town and you need me to vote correctly in order to win. I was also your biggest TR coming into today - your post here implies that I am mafia and thus my vote doesn't matter but you don't care to actually scum case me? Also if you are town here you need both the other town to vote correctly with you, "only needing kaz" on your side does not make sense from a town perspective, there are 3 towns in this game right now and all three must correctly coordinate and vote a mafia for the game to continue.

I don't really understand what you are saying in this quote, it makes no sense from a town POV.

No my post implies that we are lynching scum today then you are dying tonight

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You have mis repped a lot of my posts today maybe you are scum but I highly doubt it I think there is just a communication issue

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Idrc about convincing seeds I’m not scum I think I only need to convince you

Well if you're town then this game is over and you might as well self vote because I'm town and you need me to vote correctly in order to win. I was also your biggest TR coming into today - your post here implies that I am mafia and thus my vote doesn't matter but you don't care to actually scum case me? Also if you are town here you need both the other town to vote correctly with you, "only needing kaz" on your side does not make sense from a town perspective, there are 3 towns in this game right now and all three must correctly coordinate and vote a mafia for the game to continue.

I don't really understand what you are saying in this quote, it makes no sense from a town POV.

You act like mafia aren’t going to hard buss their scum claimed partner here

[WhemeStar]

wheeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmeeeeee
who's the partner

Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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I’m confident my reads were right early on

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wheme you could also make a very distinct argument that i'm not 'hardbussing my partner' here

I dont think you have hard bussed. Im saying seeds says we need all 3 town to vote together when that is not the case because scum will easily bus creative here.

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Dude did you not think samcro was obv town ?

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Can I not say the same things that you are saying about me about you?

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I have 0 reason to hard bus creative when it cmae to the samcro/creative 1v1

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I have 0 reason to push creative hard when he was at L-1 when the wagon was lightening up.

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I'm not sure what you questioning me accomplishes at this point.

Im not liking a lot of your posts today so far and am trying to convince myself that your not a super deep wolf and its just the simple solve with skitter/creative

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h

I don't know I dont really do Night kill analysis because im bad at it.

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488 This is where I had a scumping on you. If you thought creative was so scum why were you trying to make me question my SAMCRO TR when I had just hard committed to SAMCRO town?

It probably came off that way but thats not what I was trying to come across as. I was just trying to say that SAMCRO wasn't the most obv town person at that time anymore so I didn't understand why you were going to flat out refuse to vote him ever. I guess it makes sense from your POV as to why though because if I was you my top town read would have been SAMCRO at that time.

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[quote="In post 773, six pomegranate seeds"][/quote]

His tone was fake.

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His happy upbeat tone seemed fake to me. Did I scumread him for it? Sure. Did I think it was enough for him to get elimed? No. If I was around during that time and wasn't working I would have unvoted.

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I don't know why pooky matters in any of this.

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again if you think ive hard bussed all game and forced pressure on creative at L-1 just as soon as the wagon was about to fall apart then go ahead and think im scum.

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Also Q: For skitter - why did Andante die?

Maybe because you pointed out that he had intention to hammer creative?

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Know what, I kinda just want to hammer Creative. is that a bad thought? Like, we gain something from a creative flip yes?

Thanks for your answer Kaz, was rereading this. Andante expresses they may hammer Creative.

537 Whemestar who is convinced that Creative is scum has a chance to say "YASSSSSSSSS HAMMER YAAAAASSSSSS DEW IT"

His response is instead "I haven’t really thought about what happens if creative flips town because there is no possibility for me that he does." This is not very convincing in getting Andante to hammer, she instead says lets not hammer and wait. Wheme's line also ends up making people sus of wheme instead. When skitter expresses sus on Wheme, wheme apparently doesn't really care that much about getting Creative hammered

575 "You can vote me since you aren’t gonna vote creative" I initially thought maybe that's a townie thing but for someone who is so convinced creative is scum why is that his response? Does he actually want the wagon swung onto him so it looks like creative is easy town? Creative has gotten TRs from me and skitter at this point and if SAM lives into ELO SAM is looking like an easy miselim. Idk I just feel like that's such a weird response from someone who fels they have scum on the chopping block.

I’ll reply to all of this after work seeds I don’t know if you are misrepping me intentionally or not but it is pinging me a lot.

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ok im here

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Why would I take claim tracker to get samcro lynched as scum if it meant that I was going to be lynched next day, I would have just had my sum partner tie it at EoD and then killed someone on my wagon to be able to easy eliminate samcro and get a win. At this point as scum I would have given up and admitted it but I'm not scum so I haven't because I don't want town to lose because I made a stupid mistake that I regretted immediately after I made it because I realized if Sam was town then we(town) would lose. My mind set was that at least one scum was hard defending Sam and I believe he would bescum and that backfired, I'm saying if you think wheme is also scum eliminate him before you attempt to eliminate me I can guarantee I am not mafia though and town will lose at EoD we had 2 miselims and mafia want me to be eliminated for a third to win, I can guarantee after the first vote on me I'll be quickhammered by scum faster than anyone can anticipate to stop it and then it will be GG and WP.

Because you thought you were going to die so you fakeclaimed to get a mislynch through.

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it

I dont make scum cases its not how I play you can read all of my games if youd like .

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Know what, I kinda just want to hammer Creative. is that a bad thought? Like, we gain something from a creative flip yes?

Thanks for your answer Kaz, was rereading this. Andante expresses they may hammer Creative.

537 Whemestar who is convinced that Creative is scum has a chance to say "YASSSSSSSSS HAMMER YAAAAASSSSSS DEW IT"

His response is instead "I haven’t really thought about what happens if creative flips town because there is no possibility for me that he does." This is not very convincing in getting Andante to hammer, she instead says lets not hammer and wait. Wheme's line also ends up making people sus of wheme instead. When skitter expresses sus on Wheme, wheme apparently doesn't really care that much about getting Creative hammered

575 "You can vote me since you aren’t gonna vote creative" I initially thought maybe that's a townie thing but for someone who is so convinced creative is scum why is that his response? Does he actually want the wagon swung onto him so it looks like creative is easy town? Creative has gotten TRs from me and skitter at this point and if SAM lives into ELO SAM is looking like an easy miselim. Idk I just feel like that's such a weird response from someone who fels they have scum on the chopping block.

If I said "YASSSSSSSSS HAMMER YAAAAASSSSSS DEW IT" I would hope you would vote me off for being super fake.

My response is me saying hey I know this dude is scum (turns out I was right!) I don't get how thats a bad response but whatever.

Im not really sure how your logic makes any sense. I want the wagon to loosen up on creative so I pressured him and made scummy posts so that I would get voted off? Why would me as scum ever do that for my partner when my partner is caught. If I didn't manage to die and wanted to push SAM the following day that would just be a huge scumtell because I have been calling him obv town all game this doesn't make any sense and I don't get what you are trying to say here.

I said if your not gonna vote creative then vote me because your vote is useless and I was confident I wasn't gonna get voted off over someone like Creative.

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I honestly had a little paranoia that Creative could be town but this particular observation makes me feel comfortable he isn't:

Skitter 31
Creative 11
seeds 65
Kaz 21
Wheme 22
Post count so far excluding the past couple of posts (I counted this up earlier this afternoon)

Creative went from top poster to ghost mode, consistent with the fact that he's just outted. I think Kaz's answer to Creative being mafia was fine, didn't lean one way or the other too much.

If his posts today aren't obvious that he gave up as scum to you then I have no idea what to tell you if your town.

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I thought it was fairly obvious who scum were but I guess not

wheme why is me?

Your reads have been very subpar this game. You've stayed close with Creative which is what I think an SE scum partner would do with a newbie in the newbie queue. I feel like you have been on the fence all game without trying to heavily jump to one side or the other. I think you've tried to focus on appearing towny this game rather than focus on finding scum. One more thing pinged me but I forgot it maybe itll come back to me.

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I'm not sure I got that much out of the skitter iso other than that everyone will TR her when she's scum lol just as I had assumed on d2.

I do still want to think this through properly I regret just insta voting SAM rather than taking my time.

My question for you guys is why did Andante die there?

I think the better question is why did you not die

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Like Seeds if your scum here I think you deserve the win because of how towny you have been. But part of me thinks this logic from you makes you scum

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Easy working day. Home early.

This game seriously goes on forever.

The reason I wanted an ISO on you wheme is that I think part of the reason I'm SRing you is that your lack of doubt is not something I have as town, as town even when I think a read is good I often feel insecure about it. You've seemed just pretty confident this game that you've been right the whole time. Maybe you just play that way as town and don't second guess yourself at all and had great reads this game.

Today I will reread the creative/wheme hammer interactions.

I will rearead Kaz and think about whether I should question my TR at all.

I will think through my reasons for TRing skitter and think about whether they are strong enough.

That’s how I play as town idk what else to say

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I think I’m voting creative soon.

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If you survive and kaz dies than I’ll try to convince you better I guess I don’t know

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Inb4 seeds is 200 iq faking a scumread on me so they live through the next day

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What crumb?

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I’ve did that

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We talked about that the ending of the day before I’m confused

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94 was the post

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Oh you found it

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also definitely don't rush an elim, which is why I warned that I was putting pooky at E-2, but definitely I want to see as many people as possible voting or putting forward candidates for the vote as it's one of the best ways to read a player

This post pinged me as well

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i'm now wondering if maybe wheme told creative to make a 'pr soft' that he could then 'pick up on'
maybe that's why 94 seems so weird? idk
i still think that that post reads distincly vt and i'm still not sure how wheme gets pr out of it

94 came across like he knew stuff about he setup and it pinged me

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your analysis is really, really, really good and way over anything you have to do as scum tbh

It’s reminding me of prism scum tbh

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I think creative is obv town

I think pooky is scum

Nvm creative is not obv town

94 threw me way off

so how did you get to 'creative is not obvtown' from 94 if you think you saw a pr soft there

I didn’t want creative to be a top nightkill target

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Correct

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Q: to wheme.

Can Kazyan be mafia here?

No

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VOTE: Creative

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Pagetop

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Q: to wheme.

Can Kazyan be mafia here?

No

Y?

Why does Kaz make sense as creatives partner

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Q: to wheme.

Can Kazyan be mafia here?

No

Y?

Why does Kaz make sense as creatives partner

He doesn't imo, I wanted to see what you would say.

Well tbh Wheme I'm going to vote you if I'm alive in final 3. I don't see how you as town ignores me telling you I'm going to vote you for sure in final 3 and just wants to run to final 3 now.

I was tempted at points during this day 3 to just vote you and see if mafia hammered tbh because I couldn't see the other two as mafia.

I'm going to tell the others to vote you final 3 as well if I am the night kill.

If you're mafia you're probably going to have to turn the other two against me tbh with you. I'm not changing my mind.

If you're town good job to whoever was mafia, you did a really good job and I'm sorry town I didn't figure it out.

I just dont understand where the read comes from so it’s hard for me to make a case to defend myself when I already barely do that. I don’t see how anyone could see me as creatives partner with how I interacted with him day 1 and the end of day 2. If you disagree then whatever

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I’m ready to get today over with

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I’m happy my read was right but sad that it made me scum for being right

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This game has stalled out it looks like

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I’m on vacation til Sunday shouldn’t really effect much just wanted to let you guys know.

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Yeah I mean at this point I'm just waiting for feedback from other people the only thing I could do is try to put my entire whemestar sus into one post but I'm too tired right now, for now I'm just checking into see if other people post.

I’m getting paranoid that seeds is scum and I’m getting prism’d.

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Pagetop ez

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I need to look at creative/seeds interactions but probably to lazy to ever do

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Maybe I’m wrong about skitter

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But I really don’t think so

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Who asked for short night btw

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Take your time

I’m ready whenever and down to wait I don’t really care

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oh man the paranoia induced by that post

Skitter did you ask for short night

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i wasn't the person who originally asked if that's what you're asking

Interesting I figured it was you.

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Kaz’s vote gave you paranoia?

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Honestly I don’t think I die here ever so I’ll probably read interactions after one of you 3 die

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I’m still paranoid of seeds. Like I townread them for all the work they are doing but that’s the only reason

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that's fair
i kinda would expect you to feel more 'trapped' if you were the partner and i'm not getting those vibes

No I definitely feel trapped all 3 of you scumread me and I don’t get why

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I don’t think I’m gonna read to much into creative votes today because he’s conf scum in my eyes

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Pagetop again ez

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Skitter when do you expect to be caught up?

Kaz do you have any last minute reads/thoughts you want to post

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Also what was the game that was brought up and illegal at the time? What was the importance of bringing it up I forgot

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It’s not a real pagetop if you took the page bottom as well!

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This scumpings me because it seems obvious and I'm not sure why you have to say it. There are so many other things you could respond to or talk about and you say this.

Because skitter just talked about a creative vote????

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he has demonstrated no reaction or indication that he had any second thoughts about Kaz when I present a massive town case for skitter,

You did the same thing for Kaz

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I’m not gonna lie I d beeen drinking all day and I can’t read your posts without mxijf up words so j can’t get into this right now maybe tomorrow

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all I gotta say is means scum doesn’t want creativentonfakenclaim tracker and I don’t grtnwhyn

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all I gotta say is means scum doesn’t want creativentonfakenclaim tracker and I don’t grt why you would ever think we are partners I’ve scumread him all game and now that I know I’m right I’m so confident in my rewds but it kind of tilts me that I’m getting scum read for them. I really don’t know how scum anymore I’m just confident in creative scum

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I just double posted I’m so sorry I wish I was banned for 12 hours

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Who asked for short night btw

I did not ask for short night. I didn't know it existed. I replied yes when I was asked if I agreed to it. Why did you want to know this wheme?

I thought it could point to who scum is for some reason. I thought skitter asked for it but guess not so idk

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Who asked for short night btw

I did not ask for short night. I didn't know it existed. I replied yes when I was asked if I agreed to it. Why did you want to know this wheme?

I thought it could point to who scum is for some reason. I thought skitter asked for it but guess not so idk

So I want to know what your conclusion is from the answers you got then.

Nothing really

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I also really don't understand why Wheme PR read creative and where that line "Creative you'd be my night kill" came from. That pings so scummy to me knowing that Creative ends up being mafia. Not being able to explain your suspicion is just soooooo bad from wheme.

Why do you think mafia interacts with their partner like that

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I’m home from vacation hello

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Who do I gotta convince tomorrow to not vote me

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Am I remembering this game wrong by thinking the creative wagon never happens without me

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Why do I do that to a newbie partner I don’t get the logic

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The one day 2

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Do you know why kaz scumread creative ?

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GG thanks for modding ffery your always great!
Ty Kaz for carrying.

GJ town sorry it ended that way. Going into the final day there wasn't much you could do there.

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I was very impressed with all the newbies in the game. You all played really well. I was somewhat impressed with my scumgame this game even though I hate rolling it.

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/in se again.

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/in se again.

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Eek sorry that went in the wrong thread.