Newbie 2057: Mars! - End!

[SAMCRO]

sup am town

[SAMCRO]

sup am town

Town would be voting skiktter.

yeah, but i'm not just any town. i'm

Spoiler:

vanilla town

[SAMCRO]

PookyTheMagicalBear

[SAMCRO]

oh i messed that up

[SAMCRO]

Vote: PookyTheMagicalBear

[SAMCRO]

i give up for the rest of my life

[SAMCRO]

VOTE: POOKY

damn

[SAMCRO]

ty brother

[SAMCRO]

VOTE: Creative

[SAMCRO]

i think this guy is being fake helpful

[SAMCRO]

i don't think it's bold

[SAMCRO]

He jumped on the bear for a very bad reason and then tried to make it seem like the bear realistically had a chance at ever pushing that BW through only 3 pages into the game. I don't know Pooky, he seems like a jolly bear, but I think this is probably something he does a lot. Then Creative makes a reads list and divides people by high activity and low activity when the day just started! Then says maybe some of the people in low activity are lurking. How do you know if they are actually lurking or not? Maybe they are really not here. If creative could point to a post and say "this seems like lurking" then maybe his post would have validity, but since he just says people are possibly lurking with no actual merit behind that statement it's just a way to subtly shade an entire group of players. NEXT!

[SAMCRO]

And by fake helpful I meant that his posts sound like he is trying to solve the game, but he actually just makes a lot of baseless assumptions.

[SAMCRO]

He jumped on the bear for a very bad reason and then tried to make it seem like the bear realistically had a chance at ever pushing that BW through only 3 pages into the game. I don't know Pooky, he seems like a jolly bear, but I think this is probably something he does a lot. Then Creative makes a reads list and divides people by high activity and low activity when the day just started! Then says maybe some of the people in low activity are lurking. How do you know if they are actually lurking or not? Maybe they are really not here. If creative could point to a post and say "this seems like lurking" then maybe his post would have validity, but since he just says people are possibly lurking with no actual merit behind that statement it's just a way to subtly shade an entire group of players. NEXT!

The fact that you appear out of no where after we discussed your inactivity and then vote me and give a reason as if you have been following the game is a good indicator and example of lurking, also why is it wrong to divide the players by activity, we have had many hours. possible SAM x Pooky scumteam, seems to defend pooky with a meta comment "but I think this is probably something he does a lot" that states they haven't really interacted before or at all

question for you, where have you been all day, you've had plenty of time to chime in with your reads and opinions why now? did you see me say I may sleep and thought you could get a sly votr in while I couldn't defend myself? Well i decided to be a goblin of no sleep and it's a good thing I did

Also on another note it appears everyone has at least said something so it looks like no one will be replaced, or at least not for now

how is that lurking? you posted that TWO HOURS ago lmao. that's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch. claimed scum right here. i didn't even open the thread until now. so no, i wasn't lurking.

[SAMCRO]

sup am town

Town would be voting skiktter.

yeah, but i'm not just any town. i'm

Spoiler:

vanilla town

Pooky did a meme comment directly after that and didn't even comment on the VT claim. I wouldn't expect that from an SE. I've seen this happen in newbie games before when someone claims vanilla town and then everyone under is basically screaming at them.
From the votes I could see a possible w/w there.

i am vanilla townie which means i have no powers which means you can eliminate me and then get creative next, i am fine with that

[SAMCRO]

Seems reasonable, but I still dont agree with you saying he's being a fake helpful. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to defend creative from your assumption but I dont have enough to simply agree with you so for that reason im voting pooky to just go along with the others.

VOTE: POOKY

Will warn now Pooky is at E-1 be careful with your votes

so you think he is scum? haha? i should vote him then and when he is town we can get you next creative

[SAMCRO]

why would you be scared if you think he is scum and are saying me and pooky are scum together

[SAMCRO]

i will speed hammer pooky if there is another vote on him so we can get creative after when pooky inevitably flips town

[SAMCRO]

so you think he is scum? haha? i should vote him then and when he is town we can get you next creative

This also feels a bit fake

I think this is a decent starting vote for now:

VOTE: samcro

this is fine. just promise to get creative tomorrow

[SAMCRO]

the scums are creative and skitter possibly. skitter is defending his scum friend very hard here and trying to make it seem like she isnt

[SAMCRO]

i meant her scum friend, but you get the idea

[SAMCRO]

Oh wait false alarm E-2 not E-1

I was scared there

Sorry if I am annoying you guys with questions but what is e-1 and e-2?

E1 is one vote to hammer (i.e. if 5 votes are needed to hammer and there are already 4)

E2 is two votes to hammer (i.e. if 5 votes needed to hammer there are already 3)

Usually, we encourage

giving intent

when someone is at e1 before you place the last vote on them, so that they have time to claim before hammer and everyone can say their last thoughts before the day ends

People tend to give announcements that its e1/e2 to make people aware that its close to hammer as a courtesy

I would appreciate if we kept pooky at e2 or below so that we dont approach hammer just yet, the day is still kinda early

no. you said i am fake and scum, so i will vote pooky and prove you wrong.

VOTE: Pooky

you are confident in this, it shouldn't scare you unless you are scum and scared of the implications

[SAMCRO]

i am vanilla townie and i am no mason so if you say i am scum you should not be scared to vote pooky here since he is apparently my partner. if you think he is town, like i do, because i think creative is scum then i get my way anyways if you do not vote him just by the fact that i am voting him

[SAMCRO]

Can someone unvote please?

you wanted this skitter

[SAMCRO]

Can someone unvote please?

you wanted this skitter

I'm not sure how you can possibly come to that conclusion

Samcro / t3 has at least one scum i would guess
Probably samcro

well you will be alive tomorrow anyways since scum cannot target themselves

[SAMCRO]

Pooky did a meme comment directly after that and didn't even comment on the VT claim. I wouldn't expect that from an SE. I've seen this happen in newbie games before when someone claims vanilla town and then everyone under is basically screaming at them.
From the votes I could see a possible w/w there.

it seems kind of silly to scream at a newbie for something lol :#

i am very friendly ^_^

im sorry pooky, it seems that creative convinced them after all

[SAMCRO]

PookyTheMagicalBear (3): WhemeStar, CreativeName, GriffNotGraph

+ samcro + t3

I think samcro is prob scum?

Roughly like samcro > t3 > griff > wheme > creative in order of scumminess (p7 caveat etc)

you are so scum that it actually makes me laugh

[SAMCRO]

i forgot this game was still goin. wazzup

[SAMCRO]

creative is pretty much confirmed and skitter tryna act like she would be killed for no reason is also sus. btw, can we afford to miselim today?

[SAMCRO]

Also 2 makes an

Es -2

on SAMCRO don't hammer pls

I'll do a small reads list

Key:
+ Lock town
/+ Town read
//+ Town lean
/ Null
//- Scum lean
/- Scum
- Lock Scum

Pooky (+)
T3 (+)
Me (+)
Skitter (/+)
Griff (//+)
Megan (/)
Kazyan (//-)
Wheme (//-)
SAMCRO (/-)

Ok

can't help but notice all of your scum leans are people who know you're mafia

[SAMCRO]

creative is pretty much confirmed and skitter tryna act like she would be killed for no reason is also sus. btw, can we afford to miselim today?

I am not confirmed scum because of 1 misread? Like how does that confirm I am scum

Also we can afford 1 more miselim because it would take it to 3 v 2, so sure eliminate me, because I am town, how much are you willing to bet I am scum, you getting Lynched next day?, My reads being used to eliminate you and your scum buddy, because you seem so sure I am scum for a humble vanilla townie who has no extra info, if you are that good at reads idk why we haven't eliminated the mafia by now, or are you mafia and you know I am town, so you're too afraid to vote me because when I flip town you'll be the next one to go. How sure are you that I am scum, are you sure enough to take a 100:1 odds paying $100? or are you not sure as if you were sure i was confirmed scum you wouldn't need to ask if we could afford a miselim now would you?

i am willing to bet 100000%. also the first line pretty much confirms you know i am town

[SAMCRO]

VOTE: Creative

obvious tryhard scum

[SAMCRO]

yeah skitter and creative are just obvious scum. please elim me and then just get the two of them back to back

[SAMCRO]

skitter just had a scum read on someone who has NEVER talked this game. just insane anyone could think that's town

[SAMCRO]

just the way you've been playing. i'm fine with giving up right here and being elimmed if it means everyone promises to get skitter and creative back to back after. idk how u can even get gut pings from a slot that hasn't talked but okay wolf

[SAMCRO]

idc if it's fake. ill wait for everyone to post and agree to elim me and then get you and creative after

[SAMCRO]

@WhemeStar
@Kazyan

do you agree to get creative and skitter once i am elimmed? i wont ping the other two cuz they might be replaced apparently

[SAMCRO]

that's literally what you did yesterday tho and i think the consensus is that that didn't work out ...

wdym? i didnt make anyone agree to it tho

[SAMCRO]

this time i will get full agreement for it

[SAMCRO]

I mean could be a Refuge in Audacity Gambit

no idea what this means

[SAMCRO]

so creativename is saying never townread anyone and is discredting everyone's reads. very townie of him

[SAMCRO]

I am saying Just because something is townie doesn't mean the player is town

Like lynching a scum could be a town move, could be a bus

again. creativename is saying don't townread anyone for anything because there is a possible chance they are scum. very townie perspective brought to the thread just now