Mini Normal 2199: Baseball (Over)

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dkkoba

you know why

[NorwegianboyEE]

RVS pain

Flip your state of mind.

Now RVS is fun.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We do not speak of evils such as ego around here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dkkoba

you know why

not to towntell or anything, but i forgot you were in this game

I think you are mixing up towntelling and plain old discourtesy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

im like 42% sure so far that i have a correct read based on a tonal tell from norway so far - outting this so norway can have the fear seep in if they're scum (:

Why didn’t you tell Nancy i was town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I might be putting a pretty smile on it, but i’ve felt disgusted and betrayed by your callous actions in TM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Be not worried Koba or any others for i am merciful, i will not treat Koba unfairly just because of some past beef.

...You monster

[NorwegianboyEE]

Flow Trap how new are you to mafia?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What about you?

Total noob.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Get a load of this newbie straight from the chat mafia boot camp.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So to be real for a second, i've probably played like 100+ games at this point when considering off-site and on-site experience, i suck as scum but half-way decent as town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think my real call is as a serial killer, unfortunately i didn't get that this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

its unfortunate u rolled scum this game then.

You're sadly mistaken.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know you've got to get it out of the way though Koba, it's RVS. There's not much to do, so what the heck. Prodding Norwee with a stick is sure to cause some drama to help read people from.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dkkoba and Elsa seem townie.
Mr changes his votes a lot’s general agression feels townie too. (Zulfy)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Provisional reads. I like to do p.o.e, i find it's often easier to work out who is town than scum, early on at least.
Town: Moz
Elsa
Flow trap
Norwegian boy
Dkoba

Why am i townread?

[NorwegianboyEE]

New RVS vote.
VOTE: UNOwen

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mozamis can you explain why the townreads on those slots previously listed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh my god.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The word lynch is being phazed out, we use other terms now. Usually "eliminate" and "E-1" instead of "L-1" etc.

[NorwegianboyEE]

>Deny

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dkkoba did you miss the mod post. That discussion is over.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would vote NM any day, any time.
I know people like to keep him around for some inexplicable reason though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Koba’s read on Moza makes sense, and i think the "PoE by active players" thing they did is a kinda bad take and fake. I didn’t think their response to me was bad but eh...

[NorwegianboyEE]

If this is how they always approach day 1 i won’t hold it against them, but idk their meta.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ok so from a light skim without considering context this mozamis wagon looks awful

Elaborate?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel kind of left out of the convo, since I don't have the meta on everyone else like y'all do. I think some of you a grasping at straws and baiting people to over-react so as to build a case against them. I'm not really sure what else to say or do, other than doing some meta-reads on y'all from some previous games.

This feels a bit self-concious ngl.
What’s your current reads Jim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is ginger handbag.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwegian not so much could be wolf cares a lot about softening the interaction with dkkoba

I was simply demonstrating my bond with Koba, i knew what they were thinking.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Jim Hawkins

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee of being scum for using sarcasm. Would like to mention, they were using
sarcasm (post 242). - Leaning Scum

Post 242 is not a post i made.

[NorwegianboyEE]

God dammit NM. I don't like it when one of your posts actually make me laugh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Looking at their previous game, they made a small readlist in the 350s and they were more involved

I tend to be more active on the weekends, when I have more free time.

But you're posting now? If you're just going to pop in with "i'll be more active later," "It's coming guys, i promise", "Yep, Soon" it just seems so unnecesarry because if you have the time to post why not just post whatever you say you want to do?

[NorwegianboyEE]

But like, i’m digging at you using Flow Trap’s points, that you don’t seem very involved. And yet you’re posting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I like both Mozamis and Flow Trap for being some of the main slots doing stuff right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

crikey Elsa is a he, this pronoun thing is a nightmare! If I get them wrong, I mean no offence, some names/avatars lend themselves instinctively to certain pronouns.
Crumbs.

Eh. Unlike most on the site I don't care. I'm a roleplayer who likes playing as female characters anyway so call me whichever you like. Elsa the character is She. Jay the player is He.

Same tbh, preferred is he but i don't really care if someone makes a mistake.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya you hiding behind an alt, and hiding things is scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm new here from mafia universe going to show you all what you've been missing out on

Do they have chocolate chip cookies there?

[NorwegianboyEE]

On October 3, 2015, against the universally beloved New York Mets, Max Scherzer pitched his second game of the season with a pitching game score of 100 or more with a score of 104 in his no hitter. The greatest baseball team, the Mets still won the National League that year.

Votecount 1.04

mozamis (5):

Zulfy, UNOwen, DkKoba, Rathe, Not_Mafia

Jim Hawkins (3):

NorwegianboyEE, mozamis, flow trap

artemania (2):

esotericzoomer, KittyTacky

Elsa Jay (1):

Jim Hawkins

KittyTacky (1):

Artemiana

Not Voting (1):

Elsa Jay

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-03-20 14:15:00).
Searching for a replacement for Zulfy as he has failed to pick up a prod.

Elsa any reason why you not voting now?

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm new here from mafia universe going to show you all what you've been missing out on

I left there a long time ago

your loss

VOTE: Anya

Flow Trap so angry at former Mafia Universe comrade trying to force him back he gotta vote em.

[NorwegianboyEE]

N_M’s existence is anti-town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Certainly not annoyed by me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I haven't like caught up to the game yet and now there's a wagon on me? It doesn't really make sense to me since i haven't like done anything actually scummy whereas Jim has.

[NorwegianboyEE]

no interest to solve from them

wolfy reaction to my vote

What wolfy reaction? If you're talking about your vote on me i genuinely didn't care because you seemed to change your vote a lot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I haven't like caught up to the game yet and now there's a wagon on me? It doesn't really make sense to me since i haven't like done anything actually scummy whereas Jim has.

really bad reaction tbh

Maybe, does that mean i'm scum? No.

[NorwegianboyEE]

no interest to solve from them

wolfy reaction to my vote

What wolfy reaction? If you're talking about your vote on me i genuinely didn't care because you seemed to change your vote a lot.

lies

you were literally my first vote

this is a lie i hadn't changed my vote once

we got him

Wrong, you voted me and then changed your vote before i posted.

[NorwegianboyEE]

At least check ur facts.

#owned

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm TRing Norwee, this feels like a maf push

From who do you think?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm TRing Norwee, this feels like a maf push

From who do you think?

Probably art

A. Already SR them
B. I think they were the 3rd vote, rule of 3rd
C. They didn't explain their vote
D. They peaced out afterwards

I kinda feel like the game is muddy and town is like


Getting distracted by some shiny things and mafia is largely non-existent. So

I don't think their vote was that bad, this justification doesn't seem like your typical scum justfication, i also disagree that they just placed their vote and left it at that, they clearly had some progression going from what i can see in their ISO.

no one wants to vote you anymore
my vote is better on norwegian

I think this vote is worse, just saying they are voting me because they can't get Mozamis.
VOTE: Rathe

[NorwegianboyEE]

They were saying they can't get a grasp on the game and voted me. Idk, too scummy to be scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rathe had just been voting Mozamis all game and when there was no longer traction on Mozamis they voted me, don't you think that's a little bit bad?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Spoiler:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you trying to lead Ezo on to me with these loaded questions?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still dont anyone scummier than Jim, Rathe, Owen.
Def not Norweg or Eso.

Why is Norwee town?

Norwee is a person who has an opinion and isn't afraid to share it. He's aggressive and active and none of those things are prevalent here.

Who's told you that about me? I don't think we've played before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Imma be real with yall - I don't think Anya is town. The way they are playing suggests they are open/powerwolfing.

their vibe seems to be to force thru any viable elim.

What Flow Trap said below. I think MS players tend to be a lot more lenient and patient than most other mafia forums/spots. So them being aggressive probably isn't all that AI.
Not saying it clears them as town or anything, but probably more null than anything.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Unvote

Sorry, it's been a crazy week.

To everyone currently voting for me: Are you all voting for me because I'm the easy choice? Or because I am the best choice? What do you hope to learn or gain after my elim? Who on my wagon do you think might actually be scum?

And I feel like I've missed the whole Norweigain thing.... could someone please summarize the case on him?

I'm not voting you atm, but to answer who i think would be scum if you're town. Potentially Mozamis or Owen. I townread Flow Trap and Zoomer also feels pretty town since they seem exactly the same as that newbie we had together.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Elsa - why are you voting Anya?
@Norwegian - why are you voting Rathe?

I don't like their voting pattern.
They seem to always vote the easy and trendy wagons rather than actually solve.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wouldn't oppose for Elsa to hammer the Jim wagon, purely because of post 943.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don't you know it's rude to steal someones intent to hammer.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Imma be real with yall - I don't think Anya is town. The way they are playing suggests they are open/powerwolfing.

their vibe seems to be to force thru any viable elim.

What Flow Trap said below. I think MS players tend to be a lot more lenient and patient than most other mafia forums/spots. So them being aggressive probably isn't all that AI.
Not saying it clears them as town or anything, but probably more null than anything.

my first forum maf game was 36 hours.

I have played a few games with 48/24 deadlines since.

rolled wolf in a couple of those games.

this looks like wolfy play from that perspective, seeing the increased deadline and feeling a need to do things faster.

So you're describing them like the way you were trying to rush eliminations in that game where you bussed your partner on day 1?
I could see it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

you better kill me in the night Norwegian

This post did ping me as something scum!Dkkoba would say. And since Anya is basically the same person as Dkkoba and Koba says they feel like scum...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fuck, i don't really townread Jim. But this push from Koba feels so townie and good.

Screw it. I'm joining the CW.
VOTE: Anya

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Koba is scum they got me pocketed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

God damnit you did it 1 minute before my hour wait time was over.

Is there really anyone elsa who we can quick wagon in an hour Flow? Or are ya a fella who just wants to wait until the end?

Quickwagon in an hour? Isn't there 1 day and 3 hours left?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would i hammer Jim when i just voted Anya and we have 1 day left?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you scared of some wagon competition Elsa? You really need to learn to let it go.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So I can hammer. And he even said in 976 he's okay with me hammering. But someone who verbalizes support but doesn't do it is sus.

I never said anything about placing my vote to allow you to hammer, i simply said i'm ok with you hammering. If you want a hammer so bad why don't you ask Flow to vote again?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would i hammer Jim when i just voted Anya and we have 1 day left?

aint no way in hell town collectively agrees to make a cw even though the majority of us either nullread or scumread jim

We have time. I don't like how this wagon is being rushed here. If we have only a couple hours left i would vote Jim here but i'm not going to be pressured when it's not necessary. And i want to be sure this is the right choice.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Though if Jim actually is scum then mafia would probably be bussing at this point. Since his defense has seemed really lackluster.

[NorwegianboyEE]

by all means feel free to not vote jim norwegian but thats just a bit iffy dawg

Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is the current top wagon at the end of the day and i want to understand why it's come to be and if the slots pushing it actually are trustworthy, sure i admitted Jim looked scummy for that post earlier but it doesn't hurt to make sure it's the right path.
Anyway, if anyone was scum with Jim here they would probably just hammer him right away to get rid of the baggage.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would also like Norwee to vote first next round

What do you mean?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why do you want that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ can't say

That's such an strange request so i'm really curious why.

[NorwegianboyEE]

dkkoba knows nothing about me

Why should this matter?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not a very good answer Zoomer.

[NorwegianboyEE]

dkkoba knows nothing about me

Why should this matter?

you were both talking about how i was playing wolf like they would play wolf or something like that

but they may have put on a pelt to do some cute roleplay but i was born in the forest
moulded by it

i didn't see the light until i was already a town and by then it was nothing to me but enlightening

What?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Jim already claimed vt

would you expect scum!jim to claim VT here?

Yeah. If Jim was Vanilla goon he could still claim PR to survive one more day and just fake results.
There is also the chance he just didn't think that far, but that assumes he doesn't have teammates that tells him he should fake a claim here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But considering the game state it looks like if that happened Jim would have been the compromise anyway, so why would Anya!scum feel pressure?

Anya's posting on these pages feels very scummy. It reads to me as scum trying to tone down suspicion on them and secure a mislim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We don't use the word lynch on Mafia Scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Eliminate is the accepted standard.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya is so hilariously evil. I can't believe they stayed outside my radar.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Elsa, i suggest you vote back.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh great.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We just got N_M'd.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But considering the game state it looks like if that happened Jim would have been the compromise anyway, so why would Anya!scum feel pressure?

Anya's posting on these pages feels very scummy. It reads to me as scum trying to tone down suspicion on them and secure a mislim.

Ehh. I see she's being defensive, but from an aggressive player I'm not sure how AI that is. The second point is what I don't get, we were meandering towards a Jim execution - how does that make scum panic if he's town?

I don't think they're panicking, just trying to shade Dkkoba in a scummy way by insinuating they're just bad. When Dkkoba in my experience, is pretty damn good at town and i think they might be on the mark here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

the fact that NM was being relied on for final vote here, i think is indicative also of NM leaning town here.

Ugh, no. N_M is townie for lolhammering? He does this whenever.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can you give a quick reads list before day end plz Koba?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's ok, we can all sit down and blame our common enemy N_M.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He ruined this moment for you. He is the villain.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He ruined this moment for you. He is the villain.

What a totally non-manipulative thing to say

I'm not hiding it in any of my games, i can't stand the guy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I believe i already debunked that point about your vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But by all means, keep bringing it up. It helps show how bad faith your push is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh no, not the quote wall. My worst enemy arghhhhhh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wouldn't it be funny if Jim was just scum.
I'll just let the flip happen before i continue this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know, if you said something like "there is no way i get nightkilled this game" you might live longer in all your games Koba.
Reverse psychology.

[NorwegianboyEE]

To believe that Anya is town i'd need to buy that they start to scumread me hard and for no reason since page 1 of replacing into the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i also enjoy twilight trolling

Top notch reference.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You better nightkill me if this flips town, scum. Don't listen to Koba, i'm much more of a threat.

[NorwegianboyEE]

it's just wolf Norwegian killing someone he suspects come on

Do you always have surface level takes like this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And didn't Artemiana from their ISO also post things like: "My read on Eso is dropping" So Eso is confirmed scum then? Since Artemiana died?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you're just going to cherry pick quotes from an ISO and then say i killed them because they scumread me while ignoring that they had a plethora of other reads? Like come on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i like Flow Trap's post that he wants to think elsewhere today. I feel like if he was scum he would gladly welcome this fight between me/Anya and support one side over the other.

[NorwegianboyEE]

but i already thought you were a wolf Norwegian it's not like i'm basing my entire read on that kill it's just more supporting evidence

Ok scummer.
VOTE: Anya

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is Elsa’s "why don’t you hammer Norwegian, SUS!" or Anya’s "Look, Norwegian killed Artemis!" worse. I’m not sure yet, but i’m gonna join Koba with this for the time being.

[NorwegianboyEE]

E-2 is actually E-1 as long as N_M is in this game btw.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm sad scum didn't actually try to kill Koba.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was considering that from a perspective of Flow not being a likely partner to Anya.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You saying it’s a fair point gives me queasy feelings about you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That is what it would mean, yes.
Do you have reasons to suspect Flow Trap would be scum distancing here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bit of a stretch.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That was for Owen

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aww Zoomer.
You love me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Elsa what’s your take on Anya’s push on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What an preposterous accusation.

I never get tired of lying.

That said, i’m town this game and your calculated push on me based on the kill is just beyond obvious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya flips town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really, REALLY don't see how Owen is scum here. Not only based on tone but his posts always have a pretty decent amount of helpful content.

What exactly is the helpful content? I see most of his posts as filler, lacking any real thought or nuance. I’d really like you to explain what it is you’re seeing there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s always good to have an narrator, but it’s also an way for scum to blend in so i remain sceptical.

[NorwegianboyEE]

gotta say, that looks town. Scum are normally much more careful abou their posts.

So you think town Anya plays like this? My read on Anya remains eternally tainted by their fixation on me being scum for no real reason. And i don’t feel like they are really trying to solve the game outside of the framework that i must be scum. Such as their townread on Kitty purely because they seem to be against me. And it also feels like they’re backtracking now by unvoting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

PROBABLY SCUM
Elsa - seems... very odd to me. Hard to explain

Can you try?

[NorwegianboyEE]

if a lot of players know artemiana then trying to figure out who killed her is hard

Artemiana seemed to know me, but i certainly did not know them, which is kinda infuriating that they died because now it’s being used against me when i don’t even know who they were and if they can read me at all well.

[NorwegianboyEE]

scum owen,rathe, NM?

Didn’t you say N_M should have been policy limmed on day 1, but then you didn’t want to push him as an lim today when questioned on it. Even though you seem to scumread him here?

I don’t really like your progression on the N_M slot. Either you want him dead or not, having this wishy washy stance on N_M could be scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And why is Anya not on the table for you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

NO, you read my post wrong. WE SHOULD HAVE elim NM, past tense.
That was my WHOLE point. It is too late now, town are lumbered with NM for the rest of the game.

This is what i’m referring too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwe - the late Arte already explained my reasons

You agree with Arte's meta explanation for Norwegian scum?

Actually a pretty good point.
How can you "agree" to a meta scum read?
(And how would Kitty even know if Artemisia’s meta read is accurate, and much more importantly. Who they even are?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think Kitty knows me either, i’ve never played with them before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Explain this?
VOTE: Kitty

[NorwegianboyEE]

N_M, speak human.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am a Town 2-Shot Roleblocker.

I can believe that you are a roleblocker, but it sounds like a good role for scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean, i’d like it better if you didn’t keep pointing out your own townslips.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Elsa Jay, give me your reads from towniest to scum. You have 5 minutes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lockscum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Flow Trap, i'm not sure i get it. Are you saying you have some form of result on Elsa?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because if so, we should clarify this before N_M hammers.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why don't you just claim Elsa, you're the biggest wagon anyway and Flow Trap apparently has something on you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why are you voting me Kitty?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also can someone tell me what everyone has claimed, i would do it myself but i’m just taking a short break from my job RN.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Need some structure.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think one of Anya/Elsa is scum and eliminating outside the two is silly. Their claims directly contradict each other.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That is if it isn’t some 1000 iq play and they r both scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya CC’ed.
VOTE: Elsa Jay

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wait, didn’t Elsa crumb an PR role earlier?
Anya played really aggressively this game, and not like a PR at all.
Maybe it’s some SvS shit.
VOTE: Anya

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like Elsa is going to play this passively when their scum partner Anya was a top candidate for the lychee canon

Then why the fuck is Anya voting me and pretending like Elsa’s claim isn’t a problem.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Explain to me why it makes sense.
Are you saying you think they are both real claims?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Plus I'm saving shots, nobody claimed RBed, if I was scum I would have blocked Anya who softed PR day 1.

Where?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why can't we do it now.
I hate always being the slot that's between actual scum because some noobs or experienced noobs always think i'm scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And both Elsa/Anya want to vote me so it's pretty clear that scum are in those slots and whichever one is scum just wants me to die first.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I do want both Norway and Moz to make their statement posts tho. Wanna see if they go after each other or just actually give their own reads.

What do you mean?
I’m not going after Moz, i’m voting Anya.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i’m interested in if you actually believe this game has 2 motion detectors Elsa.

[NorwegianboyEE]

you had a good run Norwegian but this is the end of the line cut yourself loose

Anya is also really performative and their confidence is scum confidence.
The justification behind their read on me isn’t strong enough to justify this sort of hubris.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You were E-1?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m thinking you could just be severely misguided town assuming Anya flips scum though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway it really seems like you’re ignoring the posdibility that Anya’s a scum role here. And not all scum hammers just because a town is E-1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like if a PR claims at E-1 and scum says it’s fake and hammers. Their action will literally be their doom.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk what i’m at. But my role is 1-shot bodygard. And it’s one of the reasons i suspect in Elsa/Anya. There are simply too many PR claims for it all to be town.
I target Dkkoba last night. And i believe it should have been fairly obvious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i think Mozamis read progression have been awkward. They townread me earlier for just activity but now when lots of suspicion is on me they put me in their PoE. And since there’s no support for my preferred elim i’m going here for the time being.
VOTE: Mozamis

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rathe was killed, Rathe was a Vanilla Townie

I checked up all claims last night and this is what we got so far.

Alive/Not confirmed

esotericzoomer -

No claim

Not_Mafia -

No claim

UNOwen

No claim

flow trap -

No claim

KittyTacky -

2-Shot Roleblocker

Anya -

Complex Motion Detector

Elsa Jay -

Simple Motion Detector

NorwegianboyEE -

1-Shot Bodyguard

DkKoba -

Claims to be PR

Dead/Fully confirmed roles

Jim Hawkins -

Vanilla Town

Rathe -

Vanilla Town

(Did not claim anything yesterday)
Artemiana -

Town 3-Shot Disloyal Checker

Mozamis -

Town Personal Tracker

I feel like mass claim could be wise at this point. It's also interesting Rathe was the kill decision here, considering all of the PR claims.
First of all, i'm curious what Dkkoba's reason for asking slots to target them yesterday is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

there is no world in which i nightkill rathe there when he did the same thing elsa did as scum - he would be in a really shit spot today. The reason he died was obviously based on who he was pushing at the time.

I mean you really think i'll just kill anyone that scumreads at EOD and expect to live through it if i'm scum here?
I'm thinking scum are in PR's and they just killed some random person outside of the claims.

[NorwegianboyEE]

By the logic that i just kill anyone that scumreads me Anya would be dead in day 1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm going to see their claim and Koba's before i give my 5 cents here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i detected movement around VOTE: Norwegian

Ok. Why didn’t you target Koba though? That was literally the plan yesterday.
And i did not perform any action tonight so if it’s an real result it means someone else target me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Getting real tired of this Elsa/Koba big ego shitfight already.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i am kinda annoyed that Koba turned out to claim VT here. If they are pulling this as town they’re just creating unnecesarry confusion by taking so strongly hold of the game and dictating actions. I thought they were a PR for real.
Also they’re pushing scum in PR claims and then claims VT after having crumbed PR heavily. Just seems a bit convenient.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tbh if Koba is scum here town is prob screwed. And they’re doing this FL style push of attacking Elsa and explaining it is "because of Elsa’s ego" that Koba is alive here."
It makes me sad because i townread Koba since early on and now i’m starting to wonder if i was wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There are 3 scum left and i’m just filling in the bøanks right now. If Anya’s role is real then maybe N_M is scum for just pushing them without really explaining their push. Really, their actions have been anti-town most of the game and i don’t see what would make them town here.
Flow Trap might be my only real townread left at this point. I’ve just felt this level of sincerity i don’t think they could fake as scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Zoomer has felt town earlier but dropped a bit in my reads recently. I want to see if they can maybe post a reads list or do something townie to ease my paranoia there. Because i think they’d be capable of it if town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kitty, i’m guessing scum? Roleblocker could easily be an scum role. And i don’t like their constant push on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Considering the possibility Anya/Elsa is TvT and scum is like. Idk, maybe something crazy like Koba/Kitty with third N_M or Zoomer?

[NorwegianboyEE]

my twin is very bizarre

also the number of times i've almost snap voted koba but stopped myself because reason says they're probably town is off the charts

What’s the reasons?

[NorwegianboyEE]

UNOwen is in this game too.
Hmm, idk what to make of him. I’ve liked some of his questions and activity.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Elsa might be acting shifty because she is fake and doesn't actually have a result.

VOTE: Elsa

This is still a really bad vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m torn here because i still don’t feel like i understand or can trust Elsa, but i really don’t like this boogaloo team push on them from Koba/Kitty and their reasoning doesn’t seem very good either.

[NorwegianboyEE]

their all prs on me plan wastes both elsa's and i's abilities when we could be vanilla copping other players and gives us no info

This bothers me too. Them claiming VT here just shows their plan had no meaning at all. And i don’t even see how it makes sense or is advantageous for town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m in.
VOTE: Dkkoba

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i'm still of the opinion that mass claim would clear up things. So Esotericzoomer / Not_Mafia / UNOwen / Flow Trap, should claim if they haven't already.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah yes, it's all clear now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, happy birthday grandpa. You cheated death for another year.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Koba's VT claim was expected.

How was it expected? I really don't see the point in doing all of that hoobla to confirm their supposed PR role just to reveal surprise, they were VT all along.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's like policy lynch material.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well that wasn't a surprising take from Kitty at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not scum here, sorry.
I don't like you and Koba's push on Elsa because it feels like it's made in bad faith.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah if either of the two is scum here the other goes next.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pray tell, where have i been "flailing"? >_>

[NorwegianboyEE]

Give me something to work with here if you’re town. Not that nonsense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll be honest I also thought PGO so I avoided it like the plague.

You didn’t know PGO’s are banned in normals?

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm participating in a design sprint in half an hour - i agree norwee is a hard occam's razor read - its how I landed there myself. I don't actually townread them and the night kills point directly to him.

Pretty sure Rathe townread me though?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am lowkey fucked if Norwe is a real BG. His fault for blowing his only shot N1 if he is.

I swear it was. Maybe I can't count.

Ah yes, blame me for you trying to kill me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wait no. It's ELo if the NK goes through (likely).

Why would you add that you think it’s likely here?
Aren’t you supposed to be a roleblocker?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Which is assuming Elsa/Norwegian are both scum of course but that feels pretty safe now.

??
Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not even gonna bother with Anya i think.
Like what can you say to someone that’s so tunneled.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kitty’s reaction to N_M’s "hammer" is bad...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Double trouble

N_M: Prepare for trouble!

*Anya joins game*

Anya: Make it double!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t mean to act like a total know it all but i think it spews me town here that so many slots have been completely willing to vote me, and that includes N_M that was able and completely willing to hammer me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I could just compromise on N_M today tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm participating in a design sprint in half an hour - i agree norwee is a hard occam's razor read - its how I landed there myself. I don't actually townread them and the night kills point directly to him.

Pretty sure Rathe townread me though?

Quote where rathe townread u

1398, 1421 and 1518

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't know who that is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't think that's being dishonest. I could probbly convince Rathe if i really wanted to and they'd be better off alive for me. It's probably because they thought i was town they died.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If no replacement is found within a reasonable time, what's gonna happen?

We will send a stern letter of discontent to the administrators and boycott the site.

[NorwegianboyEE]

N_M is just scumreading whatever's the top wagon it seems. Who wants to reinvigorate the game by building the foundations of some actual justice.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does not compute. N_M can only hammer.