electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[Umlaut]

Hi everyone, I'm not going to read 93 pages. What do we know?

[Umlaut]

How on earth did we end up launching a doctor d2?

[Umlaut]

Hi everyone, I'm not going to read 93 pages. What do we know?

Vote bugspray.

Best case I've seen yet!

VOTE: bugspray

[Umlaut]

Skimming just today's posts, don't hate the case on Auro and could switch there

What am I looking for in Vax's ISO?

[Umlaut]

Oh hey, didn't even realize bugspray was one short of hammer in our district

Are the votes locked in once that happens or can we still change them as long as an overall majority hasn't been reached?

[Umlaut]

UNVOTE: bugspray

I should actually think about this maybe

[Umlaut]

Skimming just today's posts, don't hate the case on Auro and could switch there

What am I looking for in Vax's ISO?

Please summarize the case on me and the reasons you like it for.

Honestly it was just Mathblade's points about your role, I guess

[Umlaut]

2195 in particular

[Umlaut]

Moz looks fairly town by tone to me, and I don't see how anyone could for half a second think his vote was hammering bugspray.

One thing that does bother me is this:

Ah Umlaut is Tsu. Town.

prodding tsutsu, lendunistus, outworlder

The mod calls out the scum team?

Weird to flip-flop so quickly on my slot without anything happening.

[Umlaut]

The two major wagons are both pretty much absent and Bugspray doesn't seem concerned with the wagon on them. I think it's a high chance both are scum.

I still have no idea what the Auro case is about.

I'm wildly confused by this post.

1. How does either observation, "the two wagons are both pretty much absent" or "bugspray doesn't seem concerned with the wagon," lead to the conclusion the wagons are scum?
   
2. Isn't Auro the other major wagon? Are you saying Auro is likely scum but you don't understand the case on him, or...?

[Umlaut]

Vax is on V/LA and also has all of one vote on them so I don't know what kind of reaction you expect there... re. bugspray maybe you have a point, but "not concerned with the wagon" is an odd way of saying someone is altogether absent. When I hear someone "doesn't seem concerned with the wagon on them" I think more that they are focusing on other things which is probably on balance a towntell (though it's hard to say, really, because ignoring one's wagon is actually an annoyingly effective measure for dissipating it).

[Umlaut]

But sure, let's

VOTE: Vaxkiller

and see if we can get them more engaged.

[Umlaut]

Yes, Auro, I am absolutely wanting to speedlim you for that alone which is why I'm

*checks notes*

voting someone else entirely and barely even pursuing that point

[Umlaut]

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it so I'll just say I got mail last night.

(also my predecessor got mail n1.)

[Umlaut]

If T3 is out of shots except for the vig then no reason not to claim, he just vigs someone tonight. It makes sense. And that is the message I got. And T3 was probably town even before the claim. So, yeah, T3 is legit.

[Umlaut]

I'll just give my vote to T3 for now.

VOTE: Vax

[Umlaut]

Interesting.

Your predecessor got mail from who?

(I believe I know the answer but I wanna make sure)

Someone with a protective ability, possibly Momrangal, but don't want to reveal the message in case someone else wants to claim it.

[Umlaut]

I mean, I assume it was someone with a protective ability because the message included a promise that I would survive the night

[Umlaut]

Actually no it's pretty much 100% Mom, message also said I (tsutsu) wouldn't be going out that night so I was presumably jailed.

[Umlaut]

What are all the claims on the board right now?

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I'm really skeptical of the entire notion of analyzing group composition to find scum. In particular I don't see why I shouldn't believe that the day 1 group of eight players is all town.

• If it's random, then it's random, and Auro is no more likely than not to be scum for being in that group.
  
• If it's just whatever schadd thought would be funny, then I don't trust my ability to outguess the mod on that.

[Umlaut]

Is it really suspicious to push someone who in retrospect is conftown? I feel like it's not. We all have wrong reads.

(Being confed could not have come at a worse time, btw, fighting for my life is pretty much the best way for me to get engaged with a game I'm adrift in and that's never going to happen now)

[Umlaut]

I have no sense of what is or isn't a reasonable amount of town power for a 19p. I have to ask if we really know whether the 'Alien' Mailman is even town? And if not, is the JoAT + Simple Doc + Jailkeeper-Mailman + Doctor-Rolecop too much town power in itself?

[Umlaut]

VOTE: Auro

[Umlaut]

This is usually a scum tell in most games.
Arguing against the entire block is a bad look.

So do you think I am scum or not?
I dont know really what you are saying here. Am I arguing against the block? I have been saying Len is scum for a long time, and Auro has been on my list for a while as well -check my ISO.
Put your ego on the shelf and vote Len, and we will lynch scum.

if people dont want Len, can we at least do Vax?

Pushing and bargaining for not-Auro rather aggressively while saying he's on your list is really weird and the sort of thing I expect from someone whose buddy is up for launch

[Umlaut]

Yes, I'm a VT.

I also agree my play is lazy

[Umlaut]

I'm conftown as long as you believe T3 is town. I think you should believe that but I don't know if it's confirmed?

[Umlaut]

Oh sweet, I can't actually contribute to a Vax launch today

VOTE: Vax anyway

[Umlaut]

How many scum are we looking for?

Probably 3

[Umlaut]

I lied about my role becuase I wanted scum to waste their rolrblick. I'm actually a dayvig but the target dies at the end of the day along with the flip, and I can't be roleblocked.

[Umlaut]

I'm honestly not taking this new claim from T3 seriously and I'm sort of astonished that Enchant is

[Umlaut]

I literally have no opinions in this game, I'm just taking our conftowns' word on everything

Someone explain the case for Lend over the others?

[Umlaut]

A quick Ctrl-F of his iso suggests OW has never mentioned Lend once this game

[Umlaut]

apologies for being so inactive btw, i just really fucking hate playing mafia and i don't know why i keep signing up

This can be true but if so it's alignment-neutral, not towny

(This post is basically a prodge)

[Umlaut]

Yeah nothing is happening today.

VOTE: Lend

[Umlaut]

Okay Vax, you said you want Lend, let's see you vote him.

[Umlaut]

If the team is {OWer, Vax, Lend} we literally can't get a scum launched today without a bus. Lovely.

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In fact this is true if the team is Lend along with any two other players not in the same group (except that everyone else is already voting Lend)

[Umlaut]

I got some mail during the night, it's very long and I haven't read and processed all of it yet.

[Umlaut]

Scum-scum neighborhoods aren't a thing in Normals. They are something that are technically not against the rules, but no Normal reviewer is going to actually pass that as a setup pretty much.

Was this setup actually reviewed by a Normal reviewer though? I was assuming that "this setup is otherwise normal" just means "this setup passes the letter of the law as to what

normal

entails," not "this setup is something you might actually ever see in the normal queue"

I will admit I've never seen a game with an all-scum nhood, though I was in a mini normal with a nhood containing all three scum plus one town.

[Umlaut]

Meh

VOTE: OutWorldER

I probably shouldn't have joined a Mafia game if I didn't care enough to think for myself about it but it seems like this is nearly autowin anyway, sorry for being a potato