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For the record:
schadd would expect me to townbloc with the players in my voting block. (I've VERY good reason to believe this to be the case.)
He tried to make things as Evil as possible, per his word.
If he knows my personality and thus knows that I would naturally be inclined to townbloc with my group...it then follows, he inverted it, making the group be scum with the expectation that I would townbeard by townblocking with scum.
Therefore, bugspray and Randy Savage are both scum.
VOTE: bugspray
(Not that it matters much if my theory is correct tho.)
In post 52, Tsutsu wrote:I think I know how to read mastina now. She is town here.
If she's posting content, she's town; if she's not, she's not town.
In post 59, flow trap wrote:So would 1Bs be more likely to be town since it would cause more dissonance
Or would they be more likely to be mafia to cause more town dissonance
If by 1Bs you mean the single-voters, I suspect town, but it's hard to tell; time will tell, with more posts.
In post 96, Xtoxm wrote:damn, imagine if we'd been in a 3p bloc together, auro
Only way I see that happening is if one of you were scum because you two being town together in a 3p block is too OP.
In post 101, Flea The Magician wrote:Again I know better than to question an early town read, but I haven't even posted yet!?
In post 120, Anya wrote:it didn't mean anything but i don't like your defensiveness over a naked vote so i'm happy with it now
Xtoxm, quiet, Noraa, Auro, Gypyx, tris, Anya, VFP - let's wrap this day up
Defensiveness is more towny from my experience
Not always, I've known some seriously aggressive scums.
In post 127, VFP wrote:Okay, so we can just take that solo groups are pretty strong right now.
I'll probably want to sort these first and if nothing, I'll follow whoever is most alpha in group 1.
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Thing to remember is while I can yeet my vote around freely, if any of the groups decide to townbloc, especially A, they will be a domineering force. My gameplan was to basically hunt inside my group exclusively to find scum and see if I could trust them all, given I'm flying solo, blegh I gotta look at the whole game. I hate having to do that in larges lol
In post 128, OutWorldER wrote:Momrangal's trajectory on the last page is absolutely awful, by the way.
In post 120, Anya wrote:it didn't mean anything but i don't like your defensiveness over a naked vote so i'm happy with it now
Xtoxm, quiet, Noraa, Auro, Gypyx, tris, Anya, VFP - let's wrap this day up
I'm curious why my defensiveness there pings you as scummy, when your vote was a very good place and timing for scum, especially made naked like that. I should think it warrants some scrutiny and close observation of your slot.
VFP wrote:Okay, so we can just take that solo groups are pretty strong right now.
Curious why you think that. Their two votes, and as the mod just informed, they don't have real impact until the majority in the 8P bloc are voting together.
how come? Like mom is awful but you're pickin on Anya? who in fairness needs to learn some chill.
In post 128, OutWorldER wrote:Curious why you think that. Their two votes, and as the mod just informed, they don't have real impact until the majority in the 8P bloc are voting together.
Because they actually have the power to make a split decision if the option is there, the group of 8 people less so.
Honestly, we're a last ditch hammer option for E-1s and that's about it.
In post 131, flow trap wrote:I thought that the Blocs switched around every round?
this is definitely momrangel being excited about not rolling scum with me for the third time in a row and means she is town
okay not lizing mozamis stuff now, just saying stuff without explaining why especially because my eyes dont see the same things
whtf did momrangel roll scum without me? grrr ower is super town
In post 121, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3
No solo group for you.
Flea next!
hey t3 this is really fuckiong abritraty what ifd you talke dbaout why
In post 131, flow trap wrote:I thought that the Blocs switched around every round?
this could be a perspective slip from someone informed of a role that has this power
Yeah the blocks change nightly.
I dislike using ongoing meta, even like this.
Nora can and will townslip as scum, but, shes deffo town here.
NGL i'm getting that you and mom aren't aligned here, and it feels kinda insidey, like you KNOW?
Thats a VFP post and youre addressing as T3? :/
Nah its in setup.
*Totally not a shut in whos only ever had 1 night out proper, and spent it drinking lemonade because DD.*
In post 154, Auro wrote:No. I'm going to have VANILLA ice cream by myself rather than go to TOWN to party.
Anya and Xtoxm are town, sweet! Gypyx probably too, let me review that.
Psst... you're meant to drop crumbs not the whole damn cake!
In post 161, Tsutsu wrote:Auro and Momrangal dont engage me. Ignore me completely. Regardless of if you are scum or town, me tunneling onto you is not good for your wincon. If you're town, I create extra noise that might get you killed. If you're scum, my tunneling onto you could affect your winton negatively too. so just dont engage me for a while and let me sort it out myself. You can talk to anyone else tho. I just dont wanna get tunneled rn. Since I am tsutsu, a *calm* and *composed* and *proper* tsunami princess.
*Yeets the picnic basket at Nora*
*whistles innocently*
In post 163, Anya wrote:can we please stop arguing and lynch someone already????
You are FAR TOO KEEN the hand someone the sodabread.
Theres progression? Feels like I have a chaotic rival, honestly.
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In post 186, mozamis wrote:Mastina hadn't done anything wrong and it occured to me that if someone in my bloc voted for her too, that would be 3 votes on her, which seems unafair.
... WUT?
In post 190, mozamis wrote:To whomever said it: throwing out "easy" town reads is how I always play. P.O.E. I think most people do. It's rare outside of a Noob game to find someone outrageously scummy in the first few pages.
Early town: Moz, Outworlder,Gypx, Tris.
Really struggling to make sense of Mastina.
Momrangal, Auro maybe town.
Rest no clue.
Altho' Flow maybe scum based on my mighty one game meta kniwledge of him.
P:edit ah ha good to know. Leave my vote there for now anyway, might spur him on.
For the record:
schadd would expect me to townbloc with the players in my voting block. (I've VERY good reason to believe this to be the case.)
He tried to make things as Evil as possible, per his word.
If he knows my personality and thus knows that I would naturally be inclined to townbloc with my group...it then follows, he inverted it, making the group be scum with the expectation that I would townbeard by townblocking with scum.
Therefore, bugspray and Randy Savage are both scum.
VOTE: bugspray
(Not that it matters much if my theory is correct tho.)
You are not the greatest here. I am. So schadd would put me (above you) in a block surrounded by scum.
But I don't believe schaddy mcmanny deals like that.
But, hey, I'm luvin' the effort. We might make a player out of you yet!
Hey I already derped by thinking a player who isn't in my bloc was in my bloc, it should come as no surprise that I then derped by forgetting that Reflexive isn't a whitelisted modifier. (I assure you that if this were a review I would catch that but as a player I am not fully firing on all cylinders.)
However, I maintain that Momrangal's probably town here anyway, because I have a ~suspicion~ here. Momrangal's claimed Reflexive role can't be true due to Reflexive not being whitelisted, but I think I know what role she might ACTUALLY be softing through the fakeclaim. (Basically, there's two worlds: a botched fakeclaim from scum or a fakeclaim as town that serves as a soft for the real town role; I am assuming the latter.)
In post 222, Momrangal wrote:I don't really like how you keep pushing that even after it was stated that blocs are NAI
Where was that stated? Because I'm pretty sure the mod stated literally the opposite in fact.
In post 224, Gypyx wrote:how is poiting out a wrong point something scum to do?
It's not the pointing out a wrong point that makes it scum, it's the content posted in there which makes it scum.
In post 157, Tsutsu wrote:My current read on the game is as follows:
Momrangal and Auro are scum.
I agree
Why is there so much posted when I'm away gonna have to read this later
Welcome to Large games friendo <3
Spoiler: We are laughter in the wind!
In post 250, bugspray wrote:oh my god mastina what kind of shoes are you earing? i bet its flip flops
the evil womrs in my brain tell me momrangel is trying to reverse psychologyu pocket me by tring me and create like an anti omgus but my tinfoil hat protects me from her mind control waves
flow trap that is a fgucking amazing concise point youy are town
In post 74, mozamis wrote:Looking forward to A WAVE OF PURE NONSENSE lol
I'm light scum reading this comment. Signing up to this game made me hope for both scum and town. Which has never happened. I always hope for scum.
My hypothetical scenarios when singing up for this game:
If I rolled scum, I can sow alot of chaos an manipulation. And the manipulation can be targeted, and it looks to be a lot of fun to manipulate on different levels.
If I rolled town, I would work with different groups of people everyday and talk through our groups votes, while analyzing more close my own teams votes. Almost like a public neighborhood.
Alas, I rolled town, and as such, not looking forward to "nonsense" but looking forward to talking through votes with my team and analyzing them carefully.
3P CLAIM!!! VOTE: Vax
VOTE: Anya feels right atm. Like the keen is TOO real.
In post 313, tris wrote:forcing people to take stances is a bad thing?
Sometimes the how is scummy
This. I dont mind being told "ffs flea take a stance already!" What I do mind is sleeping and missing a day of mafia because someone Cant Fight This Feeling, has to Keep Pushin' and Keep the Fire Burning while I'm just here like well I Do Wanna Know but I just gotta Roll with the Changes.
In post 360, Tsutsu wrote:caught up to page 9. I think currently that Momrangal, Mozam-something and Auro are scum.
The claim on momrangal doesn't change my overall read on her tho I would not support a day 1 elimination of someone that is claiming protective no matter what.
I don't care if there's a counterclaim. I need a solid guilty to be willing to wagon a claim like that.
Nora you made the flippin PGO claim with Mom! What are you actually thinking here?
In post 361, Tsutsu wrote:My preferred elimination is Mozam something cuz that ones pretty much 100% guaranteed to be scum for reasons that I shall not reveal for now.
I want momrangal and auro to ignore me. Mozam something, however, engage me. Theres something I need to see.
In post 361, Tsutsu wrote:My preferred elimination is Mozam something cuz that ones pretty much 100% guaranteed to be scum for reasons that I shall not reveal for now.
I want momrangal and auro to ignore me. Mozam something, however, engage me. Theres something I need to see.
In post 370, Flea The Magician wrote:Nora you made the flippin PGO claim with Mom! What are you actually thinking here?
You're telling me that mom is so disastrously bad at mafia that she doesn't even know how to try to replicate her town game in a scum game?
We both know moms game, we both know she will pull this stuff for giggles. this genuinely feels TownMom for me. She's throwing out a claim that is cruddy, standing by it, and gauging responses and stuff.
Think back to BooneyTunez Nora. You made that PGO claim on moms orders. So do you really think this isn't in her townplay?
In post 389, tris wrote:this is a normal setup. just with weird voting mechanics
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Well now this shit make a lil sense.
Ok eh the claim isn't AI. Mom is scum for her lack of reads and overly Noraa energy. I won't really go into detail with that for now but I don't think mom should die today because I do 100% think it is possible that mom is just being weird cuz she's excited to play with me. Since I am here 100% for my favorite mom.
Also Outworlder, no its not ok. I'm not going to think super hard otherwise imma start getting confused. But anyways, you shouldn't care about my reads for now since they are still developing.
I have called you out so often on the lack of Nora Energy and your response every time is "bullshit meta tells"....
In post 326, Flea The Magician wrote:This. I dont mind being told "ffs flea take a stance already!" What I do mind is sleeping and missing a day of mafia because someone Cant Fight This Feeling, has to Keep Pushin' and Keep the Fire Burning while I'm just here like well I Do Wanna Know but I just gotta Roll with the Changes.
If you get it youre old.
Thing is, you still havent posted any content.
So let's take a trip back to 2008!
At least I have had an original thought, and you're about 30 years too late for the reference. If you actually look at my posts, there's content.
If you don't look, you won't see. :3 My posts have had more content than your frankly empty barrage of posts..
In post 452, mozamis wrote:Another post (p373) from Flea, still no content.
Into scum pile.
Your wilful ignorance of my other posts is noted. 373 is a fluff post, but if you look a bit further up the page to 354 and 368 You will there is a wyld Flea interacting with other people, giving out information on the basis of the read fae has on some others.
In post 462, mozamis wrote:Town points for Flea for pointing it out. He is out of my scum pile.
Please do not he/him or she/her to refer to me without my prior permission. My pronouns are Fae/Faer or They/Them.
In post 467, mozamis wrote:Town = Moz, Outworlder, Gypx, Tris, Auro, Anya, Len, Xtom, Flea
scum: Flow, Flea, Vax, VXP,
Anyone I've not mentioned null, Randy in lurker pile
lol Flea in both piles.
Flea town.
I noticed this and I was going to challenge you on it, but you noticed.
HOWEVER
You seemed to be quite set on me being scum, and now you're handing me a town read... because I townbinned Tris for pointing out Flow was in hammer range...
How solid are your reads at the moment? So far I get the feeling they're exaggerated nulls.
In post 478, Anya wrote:also the bit where he said he's top wagon every game means it's probably for his playstyle
Nora answers thi better than me
In post 494, Tsutsu wrote:My faerie is a beautiful soul but people always scum read the faerie. Here the overall read on the faerie is null or town and the faerie is slipping by most people's reads.
and I aint gunna lie I'm freaking scared about this..
*Pours a Camomile Tea*
anyhoo, apparently we're scummy for reading the setup these days. Anya and Bugspray can go straight in the scumbin for the awful shoves.
Still dislike Mozamies because damn that early AtE really struck a cord from someone who's gettin a lil homesick.
In post 624, Tsutsu wrote:I do still think Flea is scum but since mom flipped town and was confident flea was town, I will believe and give flea one more day but I am pretty sure flea is scum here anyways.
1 more day of thinking on that because of my favorite most precious and amazing mom
this begins to look more and more like you trying to distance away from a partner by SRing them and then finding reasons not to vote.
In post 627, Xtoxm wrote:kind of weird kill does anyone have particular fear/history with mom
i tr all the excluded voters so this day could be tough
auro we can collab on my vote today
shame we cant private chat over it
I don't see how it's weird, Momrangal was all over D1 claiming weird shit scum figured it was assured to be a PR. I'd take that shot myself.
In post 414, Anya wrote:you live for now mozamis but your bunny fur will be soaked red with blood by the end of this week
and it's gonna be YOUR blood and not mine to be clear
VOTE: flow trap
LOL
VOTE: Anya
SCUM LOTTERALLY FAKING MESSAGES LMAO
not quite sure I get what's going on here.
This is actually normal Nora, she doesnt look for reasons, she just does.
Standard mom gambit at this point honestly.
Me either.
In post 644, Gypyx wrote:so basically, Anya created a fake message that she presented as something she actually said
and my quote is the actual message she made in post 414
pedit : well, idk, i know it's something i've thought seriously about doing in the past and like, peoples don't *usually* check if quotes are real ya know
In post 645, OutWorldER wrote:say "ew" all you want but literally you've stated Flea is your top scum-read and then like "eh, I'll vote faer tommorow"
how else am I supposed to interpret that.
ya so the way to not look sus is to be like "this person is scum but lets vote them tomorrow." two days in a row. Great distancing skills I have there. Applause to Outworlder for solving the game. woohoo. wtf do you mean.
In post 647, Tsutsu wrote:I'm also curious who got Momrangal's mail yesterday but it isn't an alignment telling piece of information so why are you even asking? VOTE: OutworldER
The person who got Momrangal's mail could not have committed the kill last night. Yes, with an intact scum team this isn't a clear at the moment but it can be later down the road and it can also give us insight into Mom's final reads.
There's 4 scum. It's NAI at best, its best saved for later imo.
In post 651, Tsutsu wrote:
yeah and you feel like a deflated bag of potato chips this game compared to your towngame.
the fuck does this mean.
I never stated that this was a definitive scum-tell, I simply stated a suspicion I had about the pattern I saw, and I didn't follow up there with a vote because it a vacuous suspicion that I didn't have a whole lot else to back up with. I do this a lot simply because it draws people in and gets them to engage.
Burn aside, whats your thoughts on Noraa rn. I'm gettin a SL feel from you towards her.
In post 664, OutWorldER wrote:Why do you insist on being cagey and vague with your reads? You only do this to me and I think this has been constant across the two other games we shared.
Well I'm not the only one who sucks at reading Nora apparently.
ps://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12665534#p12665534]post 667[/url], OutWorldER"]That aside, I'm probably withholding my vote until the entire gang gets here.
With Momrangal's whole claim situation I would think she would've drawn at least one investigative role so depending on if any claims come out I think I can get a clear view of how the night might've played out.[/quote]
Yeah ok. Sure.
In post 669, OutWorldER wrote:When you dipped into Momrangal's and Flea's meta you were very clear into what specific behaviors you thought didn't match up or did match up there.
With me it's just "ew" and "you feel like a deflated bag of chips" and you refusing to elaborate further because "I'll get confused if I think too hard"
I've played like five games with both mom and flea and they are some of my favorite people ever. I take reading my favorite people very seriously.
<3
Spoiler: A little glass vial.
In post 683, mozamis wrote:I like Outworlder's point about Tsutus distancing from Flea. Could be good catch.
Fos: Ttustsus
Gypx vs Anya - I still like Gyp for town. Aya could be town too tho. She said she thouht Flow was town, then changed her mind. Didn't see her "making up posts". Prob. both town.
Honestly I WANT me and norra to be scumbuddies at some point, but given she hates the Red PM of doom, I dont think it'd be as fun as I'd hope.
In post 687, OutWorldER wrote:It takes 7 in the 13p bloc to have that bloc vote. I have no idea where moza's idea that this is a delicate situation comes from.
Because that 7th vote is hammer.
In post 688, Tsutsu wrote:gypyx you said you were sleeping and lurked off but ur obviously not asleep...
elitell. not scum indicative. just wanna point out
Norrraaaaa thought you were better than this cheap ass tactic Remember shellyc pulling it on me in DC?
VOTE: Outworld
I'm confident in this, I need to go over some bits of D1.
In post 719, mozamis wrote:ok, still haven't re-examined "yesterday",but based on todays postigs, I'd say everyone town apart from Flea, who had NOTHING to say about A LOT of content. Classic problem for scum because of course they don't really HAVE anything to say.
INTENT TO VOTE FLEA.
Depends how closely you look Theres always content in my spoiler walls you just gotta find it
Also
*ahemahemahem...*
Classic scumtell, failing to form any sort of detailed reads yet happy to not cause waves by giving out many townreads for free, and then attempting to focus down on player who is here just for the shiggles pretty much.
See two can play this game. Ooo your turn! Lets see who get make the biggest BS reason for voting, amma warn you, I'm good at this :3
In post 721, mozamis wrote:Although I have found that scum are not normally in the"so inactive about to be replaced lurkers", but in that bottom third area.
Like in this game, you'd think Vax is town, because his post count is SO low that he coud get PolicyELimin.
But the blendylurkers...Flea, VFP,maybe Len.
I think we should focus on Flea and VFP.
Otherwise it will be the usual T vs T shitstorm
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Yeah OK you win. This is BS I can't beat. Some of us have LIVES you know. Monday: CyberpunkRed, Tuesdays: CBT, Wednesdays: Scripting, Thursdays: Rest, Fridays: DnD, Saturday: DnD, Sunday: DnD. This isnt even going into MH Episodes and pain flares And other games I have on going, trying to make some weird ass setups of my own.
Amma give you a pass for now because frankly its hilarious that people always pull me on this. But seriously, if thats your hunting method, I'm tempted to just policy-lurk all games I share with you.
In post 723, tris wrote:for real though, i think gypyx is scum
How come?
In post 724, mozamis wrote:So I am only voting Today in:
Flea
Vaxkiller
Xtotm
Bugspray
Almost
Auro
VFP
Len
Randy
(Tris? she seemed town yesterday but nothing today. Prob town?)
So only 10 to go lol
Fck me this game is tricky.
Good attempt at trying to look busy.
Spoiler: For one man, to stand his way.
In post 725, tris wrote:like, all his suspicions just seem to be based on catching someone in a lie. it's so surface level
Oh ok. Not seeing it myself but will keep an eye on it.
In post 727, mozamis wrote:Although, if we discount Tris as a scum target, and guess that there are 5 anti town roles, we have over fifty per cent chance of hitting scum if we stick to that list.
In post 727, mozamis wrote:Although, if we discount Tris as a scum target, and guess that there are 5 anti town roles, we have over fifty per cent chance of hitting scum if we stick to that list.
Look at me doing maths woohoo!
there are 4 mafs in this game and 15 town
This setup, as said many times, is at its core a 19p normal with a 15:4 distribution.
In post 741, Auro wrote:A little surprised at the kill, who in this list is familiar with Momrangal? T
In post 752, bugspray wrote:can we like collectively get our shit together? the sheer variety of wagons yesterday means that its really likely we were on the right track assuming they were random but the thing is they fucking weren't
i'm 1000% certain that one of the wagons that got close was on scum and then basically scum managed to create flow trap as a very sucessful counterwagon. flow trap had to have been a scum driven wagon
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 starts now and ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in Expired
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in Expired
@schadd, the fickle: is non voting plurality possible?
not sure exactly what u mean here. there's no outcome where an execution does not occur - not voting is not an option for the final choice, it just means that that person's vote isn't being used
i mean like, does gypyx have 8 votes right now
ah! yea that part doesn't take effect until deadline. only majorities within groups can take effect before deadline, so if there are 5 people in your group voting somebody then that person is treated as though they have 8 votes.
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in Expired
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in Expired
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in Expired
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in Expired
In post 529, mozamis wrote: @MOD: so group 1 aren't "voting", until their last two members vote, even though that cannot affect the groups vote?
each group can be considered as allocating all of its group members to a choice once a majority forms within that group. so once 5 players in group 1 are voting for someone, it is as if 8 players are voting for them in a typical game, which is something that can produce a majority with the help of two more votes from other sources
(Reminder: ADHD brain is capable of MultiTrack Drifting and will MTD where lines decide to completely separate I am feeding it the required stimulants to try and process this)
In post 798, Anya wrote:wait maybe the bunny really is just a wolf
he was fine with calling tsu town until she wasn't reciprocating the townread
i thought noraa may have been scum because of activity overview, until Tris pointed out that Noraa was Tsu.
Get the feeling that Tsu is going to be a pain in the arse, but she's town.
Also this needs eliminating. We're day2, The activity overview is not a scumhunting tool.
VOTE: Mozamies or Outworld is where I'm at and where my focus is currently.
In post 781, mozamis wrote:Putting Noraa into my suspect list. Looking at her ISO it's very thin.
LOL
maybe stop posting on your other account and confusing the hell out of me?!
I have been in large normals before, and my experience is that IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL FOR TOWN TO PLAY A SIMPLE, TRANSPARENT NON CONFUSING Game.
nO FAKE CLAIMS. nO ALTS. nO MESSING AROUND.
THE ODDS ARE STACKE D AGAINST US IN THIS GAME, ITS BASTARD,IT'S A LaRGE.
sO IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR TOWN TO PLAY IT STRaIGHT.
sorry about the caps i can't be arsed to change them
I am prefacing this by saying YE GODS I AM DEADLY WHEN CAFFFFFFFFINATED.
Currently standing at approximately 3350ml of water, 90g of Douwe Egberts finest gold instant (because I am hurting far too much to grind up my beans), 90g of honey... Approximately 40 distractions lasting more than 10 mins, an impromptu Pokémon Tabletop RPG Session 0 game lasting over 4 hours, 8 changes in music genres, around 16 lost votes, 1 blue screen of death because screw this ancient thing, several Among Us distractions, and a hyperfixation on this for some damn reason. I HATE WHEN THESE HAPPEN.
tris, Anya, VFP, Xtoxm, Almost50, mozamis, OutWorldER, T3 were the votes that resulted in the handing of soda bread and dismissal to the hole.
Bugspray and OutworldER voted but to no effect.
1.1 - Lend is on FT, assuming RVSish due to overall vote distribution and the unvote.
Spoiler: 1.1 to 1.2 in context
1.2 Lend is off FT, Mozamies, Auro and OutWorldER are on for 3[0]
1.3 has no change in the wagon, 3[0] votes.
Spoiler: 1.3 to 1.4
1.4 Flow gained tris, bugspray and Anya votes. VFP unvoted in the interim.
Wagon is now at 6[0] with Auro, tris, Anya, VFP, bugspray, OurWorldER
Not really seeing a counter wagon happen much here.
Spoiler: 1.4 to 1.5
1.5 Flow trap gained T3 and VFP, but lost Mozamies, and Auro for a total of 6[1] tris, Anya, VFP, bugspray, OutWorldER and T3
Spoiler: 1.5 to Serving of the Bread and dismissal to the hole.
OK so that is a LOT of information and fuckin no analysis. Speaking of, we legit got 10 votes on Flow Trap.
What I've got looking at this, is Mozamies and OutWorldER stand out as drivers.
Moz is consistently shallow, yeeting out townreads like they're candy, several fakeslips, AtE to rival even me. Is OBSESSED with lurkers to the point that this looks like tring to configure mislims. 405 Is fuckin hilarious, ngl.
Side note, 2008? really? Try 1978. REO Speedwagon being the reference there.
452 I called out before but I'm going to call out again, hes literally picking and choosing posts to call out and going to keep shading me for BS reasons. Going further in, there's a cautious unvote, listing me twice in a reads list which tells me these reads are fabricated. Yeah fine the mistake was self-caught but eh. More what looks like fakeslipping as I'm reading into this.
Close to hammer, reverts to PURE FLUFF. Then wants a Vaxhammer?
OutWorld feels a little too cautious(?) around Mozamies and having connections there, and is a hard driver of FlowTrap for what are some pretty naff reasons in my opinion. Theres a good amount of connection with VFP, honestly getting later into the ISO.
Anya seems to be linked in here a few times but goddamn are they a chaotic evil entity... alas I am chaotic good.
VFP is an oddball from memory. Looking at this with OWER to start with. Quick to jump on the swing states with 1EV - even though we're literally just hammers. Seems threatened by the fact we had our votes to ourselves. Keeping things close to themselves. absolutely shite votes on FlowTrap, Moz, and back on Flowtrap.
Like 418 is literal 2STBS. Shame I don't believe in that, and I go on 2STBSIS.
I want to know VFPs thoughts on tris considering we've had the townFlow flip.
This is just oppotunism. No real link to anyone, no reads, no information, just "boom vote."
Is fine anyway, I'm out of my latest spiral, regular programming will resume tomorrow hopefully once I've not TPK'd my DnD players...
My Fey Fey Touched Fey Wanderer Wanderer Wanderer had a full on delusion session yesterday... the DM was prepared for hero players, not environment players and really was not prepared for my dedication to a character going through trauma response/delusion episode, fuelled by a level of exaustion and being away nature, losing all connection with what made her, her....
What I've got looking at this, is Mozamies and OutWorldER stand out as drivers.
Moz is consistently shallow, yeeting out townreads like they're candy, several fakeslips, AtE to rival even me. Is OBSESSED with lurkers to the point that this looks like tring to configure mislims. 405 Is fuckin hilarious, ngl.
Side note, 2008? really? Try 1978. REO Speedwagon being the reference there.
452 I called out before but I'm going to call out again, hes literally picking and choosing posts to call out and going to keep shading me for BS reasons. Going further in, there's a cautious unvote, listing me twice in a reads list which tells me these reads are fabricated. Yeah fine the mistake was self-caught but eh. More what looks like fakeslipping as I'm reading into this.
Close to hammer, reverts to PURE FLUFF. Then wants a Vaxhammer?
OutWorld feels a little too cautious(?) around Mozamies and having connections there, and is a hard driver of FlowTrap for what are some pretty naff reasons in my opinion. Theres a good amount of connection with VFP, honestly getting later into the ISO.
Anya seems to be linked in here a few times but goddamn are they a chaotic evil entity... alas I am chaotic good.
VFP is an oddball from memory. Looking at this with OWER to start with. Quick to jump on the swing states with 1EV - even though we're literally just hammers. Seems threatened by the fact we had our votes to ourselves. Keeping things close to themselves. absolutely shite votes on FlowTrap, Moz, and back on Flowtrap.
Like 418 is literal 2STBS. Shame I don't believe in that, and I go on 2STBSIS.
I want to know VFPs thoughts on tris considering we've had the townFlow flip.
This is just oppotunism. No real link to anyone, no reads, no information, just "boom vote."
In post 825, tris wrote:mozamis, you're coming off as someone who is intentionally playing clueless. give me a reason to think that's not true.
Maybe read my iso and look at how i have P.O.E'd the game down.
I do post a bit "stream of consciousness" sometimes, i know. I forgot Nora was an alt, how many scum in game but whatever. My P.O.E list is the important thing, and you'd do well to keep it in mind.
I'm clearly scum hunting pretty hard if you actually read my posts.
I keep banging on about it, but scum DO love to lurk, and watch town eat itself. 
