Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[WhemeStar]

Hi

Maybe

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It will probably take me a while to read 20 pages

I isod pooky though pookys probably scum

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ANyone have a fast tldr of the game?

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I have the day off tomorrow so I will catch up then.

[WhemeStar]

I have the day off tomorrow so I will catch up then.

please also use what i said as a guide ;-; like i spent all that time writing that lmao for you

Will do. Gonna start reading now.

[WhemeStar]

I dont townread andante as much as in ffery's newbie
Could be like i'll get a bettwr read when they have time to play more, but this is how i view it rn

I was thinking the same thing skitter.

[WhemeStar]

I'm hesitant to out my exact read on Pooky, but don't worry, I'm not ignoring him, I just have a very strong read that I'm not sure I want to out yet.

A quick run down of where my head is.

Andante - Town
Grandpa - Initial scum lean, but how Jackson jumped on the Grandpa fos is messing with my head, so I'm not too sure here right now.
Fizz - I'm not entirely sure right now, you had a line I kinda liked, my entrance read on you was real though, felt like maf.
Hand - I genuinely can't read Hand, the posts are way too analytical, not really about interactions?? idk, Hand is a later read
Ahri - Scum, unless Ahri decides to make an effort to try, they are either scum, or town playing towards scum alignment
Skitter - Scum lean maybe.. very slight lean - your reads this game are like complete opposite of mine, which feels weird, you TRed grandpa, then flipped when I called Grandpa maf, so it's like, idkk, could definitely still be town though!! I know I'll have a solid read on you later, you're not today's elim. I also have a reason I tr you.
Pooky - I will not out my stance on you yet. I'm 100% confident, but me outing this info right now is not helpful to town. You're also not going out the door today.
George - I have 0 read off the top of my head, I can't recall your lines.
Jackson - You got a little defensive over my entrance thing to direct the game somewhere, it wasn't even a legit push sooo. I hate the grandpa read from you lmao, I want your interactions with others.

TLDR- I'm just ready to end today with an Ahri vote

I think I am going to vote andante.

[WhemeStar]

effort =/ town

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i townread gradnap and fitz not sure if i like jackson or pooky.

on top of page 11

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Put me in the game pooky.

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lmaooo ready for my unpopular take which I'm pretty certain on. Wheme is maf, like, sure get me today, get Wheme tomorrow and final is in skitter/Jackson. I'm not saying this just cause like "omg they're voting me" no it's like, a pretty dead certain read. Wheme feels identical to 2057, and skitter is very different.

I THINK my town game and scum game are kind of similar but who knows I can't really self meta.
REGARDLESS of that I just replaced in and haev like 3 posts and im not caught up. do you expect to know how I have been playing this game?

[WhemeStar]

lmaooo ready for my unpopular take which I'm pretty certain on. Wheme is maf, like, sure get me today, get Wheme tomorrow and final is in skitter/Jackson. I'm not saying this just cause like "omg they're voting me" no it's like, a pretty dead certain read. Wheme feels identical to 2057, and skitter is very different.

I THINK my town game and scum game are kind of similar but who knows I can't really self meta.
REGARDLESS of that I just replaced in and haev like 3 posts and im not caught up. do you expect to know how I have been playing this game?

if you haven't been caught up then I want you to. You shouldn't already be making finalized reads and be voting someone (unless your rxn testing / pressuring) that early especially when you said your self you haven't gotten caught up yet. I still want to hear about how you feel about the JV/ Gpa Interaction. As well as skitter/pooky. Also HoG as well. And most importantly, the spot you are in. Think of it as a 3rd perspective . I do NOT like how you just jumped in to the wagon of Andante that quick especially considering you didn't focus on to anyone other than andante. Just felt like you

tried

to find a way to sus andante and not actually look over. Give me your full reads on everyone else too bud. And take your time with them too, we still have a couple of days I believe.

That's why I haven't voted yet.

I thikn the JV push was weird. I don't really scumread you. It felt like a dumb 1v1 to me.

[WhemeStar]

So why do people think I'm scum? Because I haven't given out proper reads? I don't know how to give out reads like some of you can. This is my first mafia game. Let me know how to give out reads so I can get better at playing this game. I stand by not voting for anyone because I still can't work out in my head who's being town and scum. I stated grandpa was and Ahri too because of one-worded town and scum posts without putting out their actual reasons instead of quoting them, but I don't think I've seen one post of Grandpa giving out any reads though. I haven't I know, but I don't know how to.

I don’t like this post actually

[WhemeStar]

Hmmmm

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

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Hmmmm

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

have you gotten reads yet?

I voted somebody.

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Maybe your right Ahri

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I think your town anyways so idk

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I townread a lot of people

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Mine

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I townread a lot of people

Quick tldr?

You grandpa pooky fitz ahri hog

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12 hours left yikes

Sorry cabd your not getting another pagetop

[WhemeStar]

I townread a lot of people

Quick tldr?

You grandpa pooky fitz ahri hog

you don't tr jackson, so vote jackson?

idk how you tr ahri. I'd LOVE to know more on the ahri read

I am voting Jackson

[WhemeStar]

I am caught up yes.

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Locking deadline in ~1 hour if Hand of Glory has not returned.

Thank you cabd

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Page top easy

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@pooky that better count towards mine the mod is a dirty cheater!!!!

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Cabd cheated and ruined my dedication Of getting pagetops :/

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I really like grandpamo's analysis above

Ig now we wait for a replacement?
Wheme how do u feel abt andante

I think they’re playing different from last game but I’m voting with them so

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Andante I am intending to hammer.

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Do you want to find out grandpa

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Mine

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Stay ez

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Pooky cabd needs a penalty for cheating.

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Also pooky what are your reads

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Andandte please claim

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VOTE: Andandte

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Wtf I wanted to hammer UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Andandte

You were gonna hammer without a full-claim?

I think if he was a Pr He would have said that

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VOTE: Pooky

Grandpa is such obv town

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I don’t think andante is PR and still think he can flip scum

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I can’t trust anyone who sheep’s skitter after 2057 o.o

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I can’t trust anyone who sheep’s skitter after 2057 o.o

the more i think about this take the more I get upset about it.

like this is such a disgusting discredit and I think you should apologize to skitter for it.

2057 was not in any way skitter's fault and the fact that you are trying to use it to do whatever you're doing is wrong.

here's what happened in 2057 for those who don't know:

D1: A bunch of newbie townies randomly decided to quicklynch me(town) like 12 hours into the game without waiting for a claim..

D2: One of the newb townies who voted me decided to

fake guilty result

on another one of the newbie townies who voted me out - the person with the fake guilty result on them got eliminated (obviously)

D3: The newb townie who faked the guilty result got elimmed for faking the guilty result (obviously)

Wheme was one of the scum who won.


At no point in any of this sequence of events could you reasonably expect skitter or any good competent mafia player to somehow salvage this trainwreck of a game where a few newb-town threw about as hard as I've ever seen any newb-town throw.

So to use this to discredit her and say you don't trust me for sheeping her is just disgusting.

I mean, skitter did good!!! Enough for me to TR her and then my reads weren't too bad, like you can't put an entire game on 1 person, like wheme, especially when you strolled in here "Yep! Andante scum!! I haven't read the game.. ok andante scum still." like, I literally flip green then what, you still blame skitter for my elim here? I LOVED skitter in 2057 lol

But I didn’t say that..

[WhemeStar]

I can’t trust anyone who sheep’s skitter after 2057 o.o

the more i think about this take the more I get upset about it.

like this is such a disgusting discredit and I think you should apologize to skitter for it.

2057 was not in any way skitter's fault and the fact that you are trying to use it to do whatever you're doing is wrong.

here's what happened in 2057 for those who don't know:

D1: A bunch of newbie townies randomly decided to quicklynch me(town) like 12 hours into the game without waiting for a claim..

D2: One of the newb townies who voted me decided to

fake guilty result

on another one of the newbie townies who voted me out - the person with the fake guilty result on them got eliminated (obviously)

D3: The newb townie who faked the guilty result got elimmed for faking the guilty result (obviously)

Wheme was one of the scum who won.


At no point in any of this sequence of events could you reasonably expect skitter or any good competent mafia player to somehow salvage this trainwreck of a game where a few newb-town threw about as hard as I've ever seen any newb-town throw.

So to use this to discredit her and say you don't trust me for sheeping her is just disgusting.

It was a joke

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Skitter I’m sorry if it was a bad joke I didn’t mean it in a serious way

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like wheme literally tried to hammer andante despite andante not claiming

then turned around and voted one of the people voting andante

thats not a progression that makes sense from a town perspective

sure you can excuse it by saying oh thats just wheme playing scummy but like um... how r u supposed to ever catch wheme scum then?

just let him win every time as scum just cuz his townplay is also scummy?

I mean it was obvious it was a VT claim

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Or at least from my POV it was obviously a VT claim

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Like do you think if andante was actually L-1 and feared a hammer and was PR he would claim like that? And since he wasn’t L-1 and wasn’t scared of getting hammered who cares if I did that because it literally wasn’t a hammer so it didn’t matter. I’d argue me doing that was actually town telling.

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How are you dirty cheater

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Pooky any thoughts on my response p

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Okey dokey

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Do yall notice Wheme is still so fascinated over what I claim... rather than like "yes andante scum cause X and Y" like, people voting me/ wanting to hammer me don't have valid reasons lol they're just voting me cause I was like "yo lets just chop ahri" and apparently that was a crime to say lmao

Okay this has to be scum

VOTE: Andante

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I wanted to be the one to hammer but someone else can do it

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@mod are we every going to get a definite ending to this day? lol

Day doesn’t end when waiting on a replacement. Deadline is stuck at 2 days left

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Is fizz scum here

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But it's not useful to vote any names on the list without a logical reason either. I can't vote for Star or Irish because they only just joined us, and you, along with Andante, are clearly town. What choice did I have?

Why is andante clearly town? Why is Pooky clearly town?

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So you have no scumreads at all besides ahri who hasn’t really posted content?

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This is so wrong, voting for a player I never interacted with.

VOTE: Whemestar

Do you want to interact?

[WhemeStar]

vote for Andante or Whemestar plz

Why aren’t you sheeping skitter anymore?

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i figured pooky could read me

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me confused by my wagon but am fine with self hammering if timer hits near 0.

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vt claim btw.

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Well I planned to self vote but I fell asleep as deadline was like 5 am my time.

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Well I planned to self vote but I fell asleep as deadline was like 5 am my time.

this is such a scummy thing to sayyy

I literally said the same thing day 1 though

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I think it’s andante/hog

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VOTE: WhemeStar

My thing can wait a while

What’s your thing

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Who did Irish replace btw, was Hand of Ahri?

Irish replaced hand

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Skitter -> GrandpaMo -> Andante are all Town in that order.|

Ahri, Hand of Glory, WhemeStar and Fizz Raab are all the possible scum from my current reads and all except one is posting really. This is bad, that and we missed one elim which is probably crucial.

Why do you townread andante

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Well I planned to self vote but I fell asleep as deadline was like 5 am my time.

Dude, just asking, why do you want to vote for yourself so badly? I have only seen you write little posts without much information given when I looked back on what you've written as I took it a little easy because you were a player replacement, but now I'm beginning to resent that decision. You want to defend yourself a little more from losing the game. For now, until you have reasons to say more than just short posts.

VOTE: WhemeStar

I prefer short posts to longer posts 1000%

I wanted to self vote because as town it’s better if someone gets hammered day 1 rather than have a no elim. Close to the deadline I felt like I was the only possible vote left so I planned to hammer at the end of the day.
I fell asleep and couldnt so oh well

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Andante's tone is slightly off from their other game, although I am not sure if I can read that as scum as game by game changes are almost certain and they were being outright attacked in this game where they were killed at night (assuming mafia) so that would have been a much less intense game for them.

I know skitter has a bunch of games but from memory and I know they're strong as scum so I am not gonna meta-dive them because I'd rather keep my sanity, maybe later.

Ahri's general tone seems to match their previous game, they think acting anti-town is super cool when it's not so I'm not wanting to elim there atm.

Wheme is completely different than the Animals UPick game I replaced into with them in it, and they were town in there as far as I remember, I checked mod PT etc but couldn't find concrete proof that they were and I forget so eh.

Hand of Glory/Fizz and Irish's first game so I cannot meta-dive them.

Why am I completely different from animals upic

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it's tracker or jk just nl and stop giving mafia pr reads thank

VOTE: no one

Why do we vote no one here?

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Andantes two scumreads are the two people who are saying he’s playing way different than how he did when he was town.

Interesting

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Irish is probably the correct vote here Btw

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Are you fuckign kidding me

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You have said nothing about the game at all. And then when someone says your the correct vote because tomorrow were in lylo and you are providing 0 content you instantly hammer them and now we lose the game.

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You have five posts

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Have you even read the game

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You can always backread from the start of the game to generate reads and thoughts

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No one has info besides fizz. The only way the rest of us can generate reads is by talking to eachother

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You haven't talked at all and I think if you guys mis lynch tomorrow we lose

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If you are town and are alive tomorrow what is stopping people from voting you in that phase?

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No... because we lose the game if we vote wrong tomorrow

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You being alive when we are about to lose the game and you haven't put any effort into the game is a big hindrance to town

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AHHHH I THOGUHT I WAS LYNCHED OMG

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ELIMED* SORRY

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I don’t want to say I hard townslipped but I hard town slippped

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where did you townslip

my whole interaction with irish

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[quote="In post 1119, GrandpaMo"][/quote]

scumslip

VOTE: grandpa

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who the flying duck asked / forced them to claim

no one did

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VOTE: Ahri

Sure

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I am confused with the grandpa townreads.

I am also confused with the me scumreads but whatever

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Skitter is probably town. JV is town

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I think we have to vote irish here though.

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meme
VOTE: catboi

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Whoo meme hammer ftw let’s go!!!

Ggs ty cabd for modding ty cabds wife for flavor

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HOly god that scum pt is insane