Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[Ahri]

owa owa

[Ahri]

i have waited so long for you Ahri!

and this pagetop :3

Ahri, the third imposter, has come to play!

[Ahri]

not sure if I get the flavour

so the mafia are kids who destroy other people's snacks
and the town are the kids who make snacks?

[Ahri]

and the way mafia kills is by destroying someone's dessert so they have nothing to present
the way town eliminates is by voting someone off

and pls am not tryna hunt prs here but
how do prs even work
tracker / doctor can make sense i guess
but how does cop "check" another kid and how do "masons" even work

my brain

[Ahri]

I'm fairly sure the mafia are professional ringers who are trying to crush us at baking or w/e

owa owa

are you and I part of this "us"?

[Ahri]

chocolate crinkle btw is code for mafia

since everyone knows townies are

vanilla

flavored

Chocolate townie ;-;

[Ahri]

pooky has seriously claimed chocolate townie in a another game lol

milk first or cereal first?

[Ahri]

i like ahri's vibes but i'm not sure they make her town

I like my vibes too yo

you dint answer the question bb

[Ahri]

2 of yall find it weird to get a gut feeling off of entrances?

Jackson entered saying: Sup batch files, I have returned back to newbie games.

Off the bat, this feels distanced, gives off an "I don't care to find maf" attitude, feels very distanced in a way mafia would be.

Fizz's: Interesting choice of a mafia theme. Glad to be here, learning how to play mafia, along with getting to know you guys and girls too.

This also feels like something maf would say. maf likes to use a lot of words to effectively say nothing but make it look like it matters. "Interesting choice of theme" cause there was talk of the flavor. The rest isn't exactly bad, but the tone of it feels weird.

Then you follow that up with going: Interesting to base off entrances of the introduction on being a little off, not that it has anything to do with the game of course.


Are you trying to say that entrances give nothing? To a mafia entrances are huge. It's their first chance to towntell, first impression, they either completely joke around, or try to act mega serious off their first post. I told you I don't have a die hard scumread right now, but that's my initial impression, I'm letting you know, and seeing how you handle the pressure of me being sus of yall

town

[Ahri]

I say give George a chance as he may live in a different time zone from us. I personally wouldn't vote for anyone on the first day.

scum

[Ahri]

Sorry I just wanted to really early game discussion; info that may or may not be used in future days etc. I will still vote since two people have voted so why not.

VOTE: skitter30

pepega newbie

[Ahri]

I dont think Fizz not wanting to vote is particularly +scum, I don't think its reasonable to expect no elim to actually happen

town

[Ahri]

Sup batch files, I have returned back to newbie games.

pepega SE

[Ahri]

https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/doubl ... e-cookies/
these ones!

~
to have some real content: i don't like people calling fizz scum here for her reluctance to flip someone

scum

[Ahri]

game has been solved, skittler / fizz

ezpz

and in time for cookies!

[Ahri]

Sup batch files, I have returned back to newbie games.

pepega SE

we have a ringer here >.>

4th mafia

[Ahri]

admiration / thanks will be collected in the form of PayPal

thank you!!

[Ahri]

uh

i was meme'ing but dat rxn doe

[Ahri]

ahri is clearly the alt of some oldhand shitposter

which is kinda weird cuz how is she even playing in the newbie section? ~.~

could it be the dread [REDACTED] player!?

rude!

I have ONE finished (finished?) game on this site

even had a mod message me about if I was knew and I was like

trick pls

I been knew

[Ahri]

@Andante

Mafia wouldn't be expecting this to become no-elim, if they had a hand in this. That's not my point. They would have banked on Fizz losing the argument on whether she should D1 vote -- with no support for her, and several townies signaling that she should change this because she's looking anti-town, and Fizz just not budging.

I strongly disagree with you that town Fizz would have given in by now, I'd argue that would have been more suspicious if anything -- she could have gotten some town cred by "reluctantly, but gracefully" being persuaded to join the apparent consensus on what's pro-town. In fact, I think Fizz has signalled strongly pro-town by keeping her stance, even if some more vocal town doesn't appear to support it.

I'm confused a bit by what you say though, Fizz/skitter argument? I don't think those 2 even interacted, why is pooky your vote? pooky has contributed a lot so far, so if you're trying to rxn, people like fizz/grandpa would be better, so what are you actually sus about with pooky?

skitter/Fizz interact in posts #61/#62. skitter tried to nudge Fizz towards voting D1, consistent with her general encouragement. Pretty light push compared to pooky's, but it's there.

I don't think skitter/pooky look very suspicious each by themselves. What gets me suspicious is their so-far complete agreement on what's pro-town/anti-town -- page 1 they bantered a bit about brownies and both voted; they've both tried to push Fizz towards voting D1; they've both agreed on strongly town-reading you. The only disagreement I've noticed between them is about GrandpaMo, where skitter says she has townpings in #60 while pooky noted a scum tell (#41), but now skitter has switched to Mo so it's settled for now.

I can't gauge well if that's because skitter/pooky are town/town trying to link up on common ground, or one is scum trying to cozy up to a townie who's building a pro-town rapport. Between the two, I think probing pooky is the safer bet because skitter had a vote from GrandpaMo iirc. I didn't want to run the risk of a skitter wagon, even though I'm not yet seeing who'd even jump on that atm.

At least one of them IMO is genuine town, and it could also be both. skitter/pooky flipping scum/scum would just be egregious, right with skitter/Fizz on the shoot-the-moon opening scale. I don't think it's that.

Hi!

what are you curious about?

What do you think of reading Fizz as obvtown -- does that change any read you have?

Looking back in the earlier votes... I just realized skitter did flip their read on me and eh Idk. You know what I might just open up my poe real quick and add pooky and skitter. I really don't know who is definite scum anymore lmao. I just see skitter/pooky and jackson/fizz. Possible 2 mafia there?

ok good take

I see your 2 2/2s and I raise you

two scum in pooky/hand/fizz/jackson/skitter/grandpa/literally whoever the other two people are in this game idk their names

[Ahri]

I think hand of glory is town!

one post that states the obvious!
with a pepega take to boot!
they're town!

[Ahri]

ahri were any of those takes real?

when did I say they weren't lol?

[Ahri]

this townblock is building itself quite nicely :3

sharing is caring

[Ahri]

I kinda like jv and think they come off a lot better in their convo with grandpamo than grandpamo does

tru

also

hog does seem town with weird takes

[Ahri]

Sad thing is that I never scumread you because you were coasting lmao. I said you kept having excuses (which were genuine) and you had to coast intentional or not intentional. I feel like this is a mafia BW. I am waiting for other takes from other people, to really look at more pairings and interactions with you because you did actually come out with info now.

Did I say that you were scum-reading me for me coasting? No, I didn't. I am saying your perspective is not one that aligns with what I would consider a town mindset.

Also the typical scum-tell of the 'lmao' has emerged.

Now I just feel like you are over reaching. I always say lmao,

lmao

It was a semi-joke but the scum-tell is a serious one, and has been documented somewhere on the wiki iirc.

You also said you have blatantly said your scumread on me. Can you please again if you did because you did not and referred me to saying "I have said it multiple times". I expect a reply very soon not something for you to look back and make some random shit as of now.

This is actually manipulative.

And I've said many times that your perspective/mindset is not one I would or ever have considered a townie mindset and this also doubles down as one of my own person strongest scum-tells to look out for. You blatantly sheep another's reads by saying you agree to it, without actually adding any content for yourself, and then you cherry-pick the information to shade me knowing all too well that you knew exactly why I was not active. What you've said to me just now proves that. You aren't town, and I am almost certain

Problem is that you are wrong. You are now saying this now because you KNOW I will flip town and they will put you in the mindset that "hey, they hard pushed this person on the reason of this and this...mafia isn't more inclined to hard push based on that and rather sheep" But honestly the more I look into it... that's what you are doing right now. You have NOT explained my mindset and perspective on how what I did is actual scum. I do agree that I did sheep some of the reads and that is because I actually townread three people in the beginning two of which scumread me. If you look back... you can see I pointed out the possible "1 mafia out of this pair" type situation. I will be voting you for the time being.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

bad rxns are bad

[Ahri]

Specifically for HoG, I want to hear a specific read on me and how you feel about others so far.

Specifically for Fizz, I just want to hear your reads as well; as I have gotten nothing of you besides the whole voting discussion earlier on.

Specifically for pooky, I want to hear your reads other than me.

I also want to hear Andante's take on the whole interaction between me and JV.

I wish GB was here to give reads.

Ahri and Skitter, I also want to hear your finalized reads on everyone since you have kept discussing townpings and scumpings; more of a compliation.

skitter how does it feel to be compared(?) or put in the same boat as me lul

it's at page 200 i'll give blockreads at 500 bb

[Ahri]

lol just realized grandpa was up to 3 votes lmaoooo yeah I'm gonna catch up then figure out who's good to elim here, cause as of #147 I SR Ahri a lot more than grandpa

bad reads are bad

[Ahri]

lol just realized grandpa was up to 3 votes lmaoooo yeah I'm gonna catch up then figure out who's good to elim here, cause as of #147 I SR Ahri a lot more than grandpa

bad reads are bad

lmaooo tell me what I should TR from you before post #147 then, if you wanna say my reads are bad, also you mentioned something about at the 500 post mark, please don't purposely spam this thread... otherwise I literally don't care what you claim, I'll vote you out

you and what army

[Ahri]

I'm hesitant to out my exact read on Pooky, but don't worry, I'm not ignoring him, I just have a very strong read that I'm not sure I want to out yet.

A quick run down of where my head is.

Andante - Town
Grandpa - Initial scum lean, but how Jackson jumped on the Grandpa fos is messing with my head, so I'm not too sure here right now.
Fizz - I'm not entirely sure right now, you had a line I kinda liked, my entrance read on you was real though, felt like maf.
Hand - I genuinely can't read Hand, the posts are way too analytical, not really about interactions?? idk, Hand is a later read
Ahri - Scum, unless Ahri decides to make an effort to try, they are either scum, or town playing towards scum alignment
Skitter - Scum lean maybe.. very slight lean - your reads this game are like complete opposite of mine, which feels weird, you TRed grandpa, then flipped when I called Grandpa maf, so it's like, idkk, could definitely still be town though!! I know I'll have a solid read on you later, you're not today's elim. I also have a reason I tr you.
Pooky - I will not out my stance on you yet. I'm 100% confident, but me outing this info right now is not helpful to town. You're also not going out the door today.
George - I have 0 read off the top of my head, I can't recall your lines.
Jackson - You got a little defensive over my entrance thing to direct the game somewhere, it wasn't even a legit push sooo. I hate the grandpa read from you lmao, I want your interactions with others.

TLDR- I'm just ready to end today with an Ahri vote

so the read on me is solely off the basis of non-contribution and not actual scumreading, good 2 know

[Ahri]

I think Ahri is going for the magical 8-ball approach where you shake her and a pseudo-random result falls out, but it's designed to crumb as a whole when you iso read her. My guess for the message is "hey town, don't get pocketed here" -- such as in "skitter, how do you feel about [...] being put in the same boat as me", and then "you and what army" at you, and calling "newbie" rather than town/scum on Mo. If that's what she's doing, it's a null tell as such, but situationally moves towards town or scum depending on how serious you think the danger really is.

If nothing else, you and she seem to agree on how I have "weird takes", though she also reads me "seems town" in that post (and said skitter was "stating the obvious" by townreading me; I suspect Ahri was suggesting it's actually not obvious at all)

I don't see why you as town wouldn't care if I read your posts, unless you think I'm anti-town. I think you're clearly not null on me.

1) magic 8-ball
2) i haven't been randomly giving reads but rather quoting various posts and marking them as town/maf zzz

[Ahri]

I mean, Hand, I really don't care if you don't read a word I say, I understand writing styles are all different, but please tell me where Ahri has even TRIED to do one towny thing. After the spam of town/pepe stuff she was like "yeah I was meme'ing" like. ahri isn't even playing

i've been quoting posts with their likely alignment bud

so i'm not playing = i'm mafia?

or it's a liability elim

[Ahri]

Ok, I've read enough, I wanna get Ahri here, not even taking this seriously, has yet to out a genuine read, ignored the whole JV/GM stuff, like I'm not seeing any genuine effort to scumhunt coming from Ahri. And all of Ahri's posts just read as them taking this game as a joke

VOTE: Ahri

by this you should be "scumreading" or wanting to elim Bailey as well, no? They have 1 post this game
(Note: not saying i sr them, but by sr'ing for usefulness to town)

[Ahri]

Once I die and flip town... I hope town realizes there was a scum in this interaction and it wasn't me but you. I am still openminded to other people especially in the POE I had which was Jackson/Fizz Skitter/Pooky. I really want to say there is two mafia there. It depends on who flips town or scum. I am also null on Ahri as well. By the way, what happened GeorgeBailey?

So, my read with Grandpa, I'm not 100% sure here, but I'm 100% confident, if Grandpa town, JV maf. I'm just not entirely sure I tr Grandpa. I'm just ready to send Ahri out, let maf elim 1, give us less people to read in lol

this post is honestly one of the most pepega things i have read

9 player game

you're "100% confident" there is at least one mafia in Grandpa / JV, and yet with 6 other players outside you'd like to elim me to "give you less people to read in"?

Hypothetically to you, if i'm mafia and there is "100% one mafia inside Grandpa and JV", if I flip mafia game should end, without reading, no?

so you're elimming me with the anticipation that i'm flipping green to give you less people to read into?

instead of elimming the two people who you have >=1 scum in b2b?

Like I had you marked semi-townier for the incredibly pointless push on me but this post makes absolutely 0 sense and is full of tmi

[Ahri]

Specifically for HoG, I want to hear a specific read on me and how you feel about others so far.

Specifically for Fizz, I just want to hear your reads as well; as I have gotten nothing of you besides the whole voting discussion earlier on.

Specifically for pooky, I want to hear your reads other than me.

I also want to hear Andante's take on the whole interaction between me and JV.

I wish GB was here to give reads.

Ahri and Skitter, I also want to hear your finalized reads on everyone since you have kept discussing townpings and scumpings; more of a compliation.

not sure if i'm over'ing this but this post is not bad by itself

[Ahri]

anyways I have a trivia question for y'all

there are 2 players that I have marked to have only 3 remaining partners (i.e. elimmed all their other combinations):
Jackson / Fizz

does anyone wanna guess who their 3 remaining partner combinations are

[Ahri]

anyways bad elims for today are jackson / HoG / the afk / skitter

mainly because given jackson / hog's playstyle it's so easy to mess up and openclaim mafia
and the afk / skitter haven't really done anything and are capable of a lot more

[Ahri]

Well I obviously missed whatever question you're trying to ask me?? The JV/GM thing? I think it's dumb to try and force our vote in those 2 when Ahri is annoying me by doing absolutely nothing except meming.

how I've been town?? literally look at my ISO... it's town reading the freaking game... town actively gamesolving to find maf. I was the one who got the game going with the entrance stuff. but apparently it means nothing to you

so you believe there's 100% a maf in those two, and you refuse to vote inside?

but rather would do a liability elim today?

[Ahri]

terribly sorry if I didn't see it but literally

idg this gameplay from Andante

you are 100% confident there is a mafia in x and y

and you choose to vote outside x and y, to let mafia kill someone, to narrow down the pool??

[Ahri]

Once I die and flip town... I hope town realizes there was a scum in this interaction and it wasn't me but you. I am still openminded to other people especially in the POE I had which was Jackson/Fizz Skitter/Pooky. I really want to say there is two mafia there. It depends on who flips town or scum. I am also null on Ahri as well. By the way, what happened GeorgeBailey?

So, my read with Grandpa, I'm not 100% sure here, but I'm 100% confident, if Grandpa town, JV maf. I'm just not entirely sure I tr Grandpa. I'm just ready to send Ahri out, let maf elim 1, give us less people to read in lol

So skitter is probably 1 maf, would make sense with all their reads opposite mine, saw me go "slight sr on skitter" now she's like "ok, time to get andante out" whatever, I'm just done for the night, don't even care, no chance I claim, feel free to vote me out

Honestly, I'd vote JV over Grandpa right now. but I'd prefer Ahri

I'm not 100% confident there's a maf in x and y?? please tell me where I said it... you all keep saying I said that, I have 3 TRs/town leans and Ahri isn't one, so byeee

p curious what table thinks of these 4 posts

[Ahri]

VOTE: Andante

(forgot to leave my vote, my b, sorry for splitposting)

[Ahri]

I'm not 100% confident there's a maf in x and y?? please tell me where I said it... you all keep saying I said that, I have 3 TRs/town leans and Ahri isn't one, so byeee

Once I die and flip town... I hope town realizes there was a scum in this interaction and it wasn't me but you. I am still openminded to other people especially in the POE I had which was Jackson/Fizz Skitter/Pooky. I really want to say there is two mafia there. It depends on who flips town or scum. I am also null on Ahri as well. By the way, what happened GeorgeBailey?

So, my read with Grandpa, I'm not 100% sure here, but I'm 100% confident, if Grandpa town, JV maf. I'm just not entirely sure I tr Grandpa. I'm just ready to send Ahri out, let maf elim 1, give us less people to read in lol

lmk the hell these two posts are?

[Ahri]

ANyone have a fast tldr of the game?

andante / ahri one
grandpo / jackson one

[Ahri]

*reading my iso*
*every single post fixated on Andante*

anyways I'm 90% sure Andante is flipping red here, given this main reason:

he's not scumhunting, but rather looking for the "easiest" or "best" elimination. what i mean by that is that he is prodding to see if people will vote me for having no content, he's voting jackson bc he's in a hotspot, and constantly asking "hm can i push this person?"

thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

back to lurking.

[Ahri]

Grandpa, you should vote JV

mhm. im willing to either vote my poe: jv and pooky. seeing that no one actually gained any traction on the vote for pooky, i might then just vote jv here

I mean, pooky is maf or pr, so I'm good with pooky living another day, and if pooky is pr, pooky will die tonight lol

sorry how is pooky randomly getting into a poe?

and 2) i'm fos'ed for being a useless pumpkin but the self-voter gets a free pass?

if (aka when) andante flips red i'm p sure getting grandpo / hog b2b should end the game

[Ahri]

You've had like 12 top scumreads

i disagree. he thought there was a scum was between me and jv. and pushed ahri as another propsoing 2 scum. only read changed when wheme came in and acted scummy which 3 ppl have said which i started then andante said something then jv did.

ok so he thinks there's a scum in you / jv and instead pushes me?

instead of casing one of you?

[Ahri]

fantastic scumchat ping, but more importantly why is this day not over yet?

[Ahri]

honestly like I don't even remember if I was mafia VT or pr in this game all i know that is this jackson person is too towny and this pooky person is probably scum

tenks

[Ahri]

it's tracker or jk just nl and stop giving mafia pr reads thank

VOTE: no one

[Ahri]

why the **** did I come back to the most recent page, and there's discussions on pr?

who the flying duck asked / forced them to claim

and literally with the other pr dead it doesn't matter what their role is and they might as well out since they're dying so why is it not good to ask them for their role?