Micro 1002: Dark Waltz III - Game Over!

[Noraa]

HAIIIIIII

[Noraa]

Pookster invited me and I was like ooooooo

[Noraa]

Anyways pause the game while I read up
also MOOOOM

[Noraa]

Oh I assure you pooky is the evilest bear of all times!

[Noraa]

So far on page one I like Sans

[Noraa]

he's out to get me i swear first fire comes back when i say fire is retired and then gets noraa to replace aaron who i accused of being noraa wtf is going ON

wack

[Noraa]

Oh I like Unwnd.
Mom is being weird but I notice that recently mom has been weird. Perhaps something is going on her life or something because normally as town she is obvtown but recently, that hasn't been the case.

[Noraa]

noraaa u really got to change that avi sometime

NO! I like it. Finders Keepers. Pink ball gave it to me. It's mine now.

[Noraa]

Ok so I super speed skimmed a couple isos and caught some important info.
So first of all, I know who Mad hatters is.
Second of all, I know who Aaron is. It's not churros wtf.
Third of all, some of these id guesses are wack.
Sans is not hectic I don't think but if sans is hectic, he is 100% scum here.
If Quinn is Nancy drew, Quinn is town here.

[Noraa]

if aaron = noraa that could’ve been a scummy altswitch quick idk how to feel about it being done like this

Ask pooky for an explanation if you want.

[Noraa]

So first of all, I know who Mad hatters is.

who am i tho

Fire doggo!

[Noraa]

Ok now reads.
I say mom is town but that is simply giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Hatters I can't read and have never been able to read. I'd say they are lean scum here tho.
Ydrasse is probs town however I don't understand her TR on Oka.
I SR Oka because I think their reads have been a hot mess.
Harley is 100% town if Nancy. Like 100% guaranteed.
Sans is probably town.
Who else is in the game?

[Noraa]

So first of all, I know who Mad hatters is.

who am i tho

Fire doggo!

or is that what i want u to think O_o

.....water doggo?

[Noraa]

I DEMAND EXTENSIONS!

yeah lets demand extensions. Pookybear you sent me an invite two hours ago and you rep me in now. I demand 2 extra hours times two days. basically 4 extra days if I did my math right because that's definitely not very extra.

[Noraa]

What about my reads r a hot mess

I believe your reads have kinda been like this:
oh a and b can be scum
oh but a and c can be too
maybe c and d
e and f?
d and e?

the problem is that those reads make it look like you are in the "anyone but me" mentality.

[Noraa]

noraa and San dance with me?

Plz accept, I need to be in noraas head

I had Aaron in my dead pool and like ugh

oh i hate this LMAO

I agree with you but hear me out. Momhas been WEIRD lately. Try to bear with her because she has been VERY scummy lately.

[Noraa]

fire i can gift u noraa a pt with you where you can bully her to the end of days

i don't want to bully norra.
also as just a personal note i don't want to pt with norra because i have a hard time with her in thread alone sometimes when im being serious lol

>:)

[Noraa]

the problem is that those reads make it look like you are in the "anyone but me" mentality.

.......why would anyone include themselves like this

that's not what my post implies?

[Noraa]

why should i bear w her if she’s being scummy...?

bc she's been doing it as town

[Noraa]

and also there are 3 scum and if im really playing around with 5 options is that so bad?

you have done more than just 5 options lol

[Noraa]

and also there are 3 scum and if im really playing around with 5 options is that so bad?

you have done more than just 5 options lol

who have i considered?

You say Im scum and have refused to sort me.
You refused to sort Aaron which is understandable from the bit I've seen of his iso.
But you write me off as the same person and just call me scum when I am producing content and engaging and explaining.
You say Momrangal is scum but haven't provided reasoning.
You say Sans could be scum. also no reasoning.
You say Firebringer is scum and refused to resort after dkkoba's rep out. You just say it was scummy.
Who else.
Well perhaps you only have 5. But my point. Is that you are refusing to resort people and are insisting your reads are right while not backing up a single one.
Is that town mentality?
Posting a lot is trying to fake an image that you are participating but the content you provide is less that Aarons if you ask me. All you do is clutter the thread with trash. Am I wrong?

[Noraa]

If you are town, Oka, you will cause a town loss by continuing the way you are.
You are drowing out other people in your scum reads that you are not backing up.
Town up if you are town.
You may look town on the surface but the content in your posts is essentially nonexistent.

[Noraa]

and you figured all of this out in a 5 minute skim?

Uh no. Pooky sent me the invite hours ago.

[Noraa]

and you figured all of this out in a 5 minute skim?

And also. Why is that your focus? You should be sorting me instead of trying to figure out if Aaron is me.
Let's say Aaron is me. What is the motivation between changing accounts?
Let's say Aaron isn't me. What then?
Does that matter?
Is it really tactical to replace in with a different account?
Is it town trying to get a new perspective?
There are so many possibilities that whether or not Aaron is me doesn't change anything and is NAI at best.

[Noraa]

Oka don't avoid my questions. Engage me.
Aaron is not me.

[Noraa]

Oka has declared himself alpha of this thread but I am here to say that no, you don't deserve that crown if you won't explain your reads and engage people properly.

[Noraa]

I've skimmed up on most isos and mostly am done with that.

[Noraa]

Mmm fine Oka you just want me to say Aaron was me right?
Yeah, Aaron was me. This replace in was a test to see who would reevaluate me.

I understand Aaron's gimmick was strange and hard to engage but I know that Noraa is easier to connect to. Anyone that refuses to reevaluate my slot is basically insta scum read for me.

[Noraa]

I do truly understand the scum reads on Aaron. He was hard to connect to. I purposefully did that to see how people would react. It was hard reading a game state where everyone wasn't willing to resort me however, so I switched accounts.

[Noraa]

Wasn't planning on revealing this as to keep reaction testing but I lied a couple times and forgot and agh I need to plan it out better next time.

[Noraa]

when you mean "hard to connect to" you mean you purposely decided to explicitly not engage me?

uh I tend to block out my scum reads in general. But the hard to connect to was the gimmick. I didnt realize it would be hard to connect to. I just wanted to flavor my posts up but it was harder than I first thought. I'm super happy people thought I was Flava tho because that was half what I was going for lol.

[Noraa]

Anyways you've asked enough questions and I've answered them all, explain yourself, you scummy bird.

[Noraa]

No you really don't have much reason. When I repped in, you were just like "Noraa is scum" and that was it. You refused to engage or resort and I don't believe that is town mindset.

[Noraa]

I see we are blessed with The White Queen of Tsunami. This certainly does upset the table.

Mother I am to assume then you are declining my proposal?

you better start resorting now.

[Noraa]

I am already obvtown with my fiery passion.

[Noraa]

Also I am not going in the dead pool. Don't anyone dare suggest it again. I am not going. No.

[Noraa]

I was planning on hiding my Sans SR but since im revealing that Aaron is me, Sans you need to engage me asap and tell me why you townread Aaron but then decided to SR immediately once consensus shifted over.

[Noraa]

I was thinking Sans was scum so if I hid the SR, I could potentially get a TR back and secure my position in the game but since im revealing Aaron is me, that all goes down the drain.

[Noraa]

For Nancy, I did think you were scum but your reaction to my SR was very towny so I legitimately have reversed that read.

[Noraa]

That was not a lie, I do TR Nancy now.
You were scummy because I felt you didnt back up your reads but your insistence and stubbornness that you are right I am inclined to TR.

[Noraa]

The only read that I hid was the read on sans.
For tea party, overall I probably lean town ish. but yeah aside from that, I haven't lied.

[Noraa]

Mmm fine Oka you just want me to say Aaron was me right?
Yeah, Aaron was me. This replace in was a test to see who would reevaluate me.

I understand Aaron's gimmick was strange and hard to engage but I know that Noraa is easier to connect to. Anyone that refuses to reevaluate my slot is basically insta scum read for me.

My Queen, you know the truth of the mask I bear, and you know the variance in style that comes with said mask. If you would consider:
That you held an alt with a gimmick making it harder to connect, making a Grand Reveal and expecting a full and complete reassessment...
What reaction would you expect from those here should I do the same?

And I ask you to please be careful around potentially hinting at my true identity. I lowered the mask in trust.

I won't tell anyone, my dearest flavorleafpenguinpowernancydrewhecticydrassemomrangalnoraaaarontsutsuprincess

[Noraa]

I need to go to class now.
NO ONE propose or accept anything because I am a person that is easy to sort in a couple rl days. DO NOT. I repeat do not put me in the death pool because I am guaranteed to be the most obvtown in this set soon.

[Noraa]

I'm not engaging you further on this, everything is just an argument to you be to won, not necessarily to reach understanding. That isn't the way I like to play the game, and the only mistake I've made thus far is engaging you at your level. That is why I insulted you, because I just didn't assume you have the capability to be humble. To have any sensibility.

Despite this, you're playing this game and I respect the mod's choice

It's not my decision whether you live or die, despite my own coarseness

Dkkoba is town. Don't question it.

oh wait remember this one this one was a real gem

attacking a gimmick is stupid, bird.

[Noraa]

okay so, here is why then i find you repping out and onto this account as something scummy,

to me, it was a fairly obvious Thing that you repped into your own slot and it wasn’t a stranger just because of it happening, and the speed of your reads. that you lied about it to use as a test feels... i dunno, it’s only after you got pressured on it that you told us feels more like being caught red handed and owning up to it.

you were on the cusp of being thrown into the dead pool; no one had any truly outstanding objections to you going in there from what i recall, not everyone wanted you but it was likely. and you, having a disconnect from this game apparently this entire time decided that now, right before we’re forced to start forming pools, you decided now was the time that you wanted to switch over. to me it’s damning because of the table, like. look at mom, you literally bought yourself a get out of jail card with her for now. to me, it feels like you did this because you thought that it could buy yourself some more time this game and pocket some people. that, and flipping on some reads/saying you lied about them also just feels like you’re using this rep in to flip things around for your benefit without having to back up a process on them

like sorry if you weren’t having fun on aaron (and regardless of alignment you probably weren’t) but the timing and execution of it feels super weird to me

like I mean I don't care what you say and if people didnt push me on it(stupid bird), I would've gotten better reactions to it that would've probs come close to solved the game. Now instead, because y'all can't fucking wait one day, we get no results.

[Noraa]

y'all make it seem like the deadline is a problem. freaking ask for an extension the.
plus things were looking up for Aaron yesterday until scum panicked and tried locked me in

[Noraa]

we are killing fire/noraa/mom

just need to find two groupings that won't result in suicide and will force the death pool

you are scums best friend or scum. I don't care which but you should die for it.

[Noraa]

your reads are stupid.
you offer no reasoning
you are unwilling to resort
you won't reevaluate
and you are the reason town will lose if town loses.

[Noraa]

you should be in the death pool.

[Noraa]

if enough people ask, pooky will give it most likely.

[Noraa]

yeah i don't particularly care about that type of AtE

if we lose here, i take full responsibility for the loss

no one wants you to take responsibility.
we want to win.
literally wtf.

[Noraa]

Y'all are stupid if you put me in the death pool. I am obvtown as hell.

[Noraa]

so you shouting at me for the loss and everything is basically asking me to force against the will of consensus. so no i don't particularly care for your whining that im not siding with you

this is not consensus when there's only a bird yelling about it.

[Noraa]

Ydrasse, if sans is hectic, which you definitely know, he is scum.
he would've WK'ed me if town.
Aside from that, this bird needs to die tomorrow for his shit af reads.

[Noraa]

Harley is town. Firebringer is town.

[Noraa]

Ydrasse's alignment depends on sans. Figure that out yourselves.
Dying with mom and hatters is stupid but if the game is even going tomorrow, Yeet the bird off the face of the earth asap.

[Noraa]

why would he have done that?

because I am obvtown here and hectic would know it.

[Noraa]

Hectic has read scum me wrong before. But hectic will never think I am scum here if he is town. NEVER. I am 100% sure.

[Noraa]

propose to Harley and Hatters

[Noraa]

actually

propose to harley and ydrasse

[Noraa]

hey norra take like fifty steps baack here

birds are stupid and until this one stops yapping, imma be pissed

[Noraa]

but yeah, you're right.

[Noraa]

ok fire doggo, what do you say about who to dance with?

[Noraa]

hey norra take like fifty steps baack here

birds are stupid and until this one stops yapping, imma be pissed

its really not worth it to get upset over a game. let oka do his thing.

his thing is the stupidest thing ever but whatever.

[Noraa]

actually

propose to harley and ydrasse

why?

uh because I want to survive til tomorrow. Unlike the bird, I am an obvtown player that will be obvious in due time.
I do not wish to die tonight and you are townread enough to guarantee my safety

[Noraa]

My Lady Harley, and My Lord Unwnd, May I have the honour of sharing a dance?

I am happy to extend a request toward Lady Ydrasse as an alternative to Unwnd.

I want Nancy >:(

[Noraa]

I don't think Ydrasee would he a good dance partner for Nora

Also don't think ydra is that widely tr'd

Is she not? I don't know or care about who im dancing with. I just want to make sure I don't die tonight.
While I don't have the best reads and love getting pissy over random things, I am basically a free IC which is a huge asset to town.

[Noraa]

Ydrasse, Firebringer, Noraa
Momrangal, Harley, Hatters
Oka poka, Unwnd, Sans <- death pool

does this sound good?
We sacrifice unwnd and he's not giving much content anyways so its not a big loss

[Noraa]

I need someone TRed in my group because me dying tonight is disastrous. I am a huge asset to town just by my obvtown play style.

[Noraa]

My preferred grouping as in who I want to talk to in the pt is actually mom and fire bringer.
the problem is that fire bringer and mom are both highly scum read.

[Noraa]

Ydrasse, Firebringer, Noraa
Momrangal, Harley, Hatters
Oka poka, Unwnd, Sans <- death pool

Everyone give opinions on this.
Mom and Hatters are seemingly ok with it.
If we get majority vote, we will form the groups.

[Noraa]

Nora you are not going to die tonight.

Darling tsunami plz

fuck. instapocketed

[Noraa]

So I like Harley, Firebringer, Ydrasse as solid town.
Hatters, Mom and unwnd are the next tier
the bottom tier is Sans and Oka.
So I suggest we kill off the lowest poster in the middle tier, unwnd with sans and oka.
The rest we can just mix up however much we want

[Noraa]

I have expressed a desire for 2 peoples to be swapped.

[/quote]

I saw, yeah.

[Noraa]

Firebringer is really helping calm me down which is the main reason I would want them. Momrangal I would like because she is a very very calming voice for me along with the fact that I can sort her better in a pt I think.
So maybe just Mom, Fire, Noraa
Ydrasse, Hatters, Harley
Death pool

[Noraa]

dance with Hatter and with Sans undertale

Pedit why does Unwnd need to live

Why do you TR sans, mom?

[Noraa]

stop suggesting, people. Look at the ones I suggested and comment on them. We need a majority vote on those groups I suggested/suggestions on what to change
and asap.

[Noraa]

Mom, come dance with me and guide me back to the light. You're my mom. it's your job to bring me back to the light yeah?
Firebringer will calm me down.

[Noraa]

I cant leave the dance floor if I'm with both you and FB

I cant save either of you if I'm in a pt eith you two

you want to be in the death pool?

[Noraa]

oka should def not be in a death pool; even if he is wrong on reads

no he should die today. I can compromise on anyone else tho.

[Noraa]

I hear you nora BUT

Oka party is very likely to vote against you.

You're going to need the second party to side with you to live tomorrow.

You can fly, I promise. You've already spread your wings

yeah if Oka party is the dead pool, it doesn't matter who they vote.

[Noraa]

oh nvm. I see what you say.

[Noraa]

Ok then
Noraa, Ydrasse, Hatters
Mom, fire doggo, Harley
death pool

[Noraa]

Nora listen

If scum is in the other group and Oka is scum, they won't vote for okas group

how do you know scum can convince them?

[Noraa]

who is quintile?

[Noraa]

I have just realised something.

This is most amusing.

Lady Quinzel, I believe it in our best interests to form an alliance with Lady Ydrasse.

just propose harley/ydrasse im fine w it, ill pair sans/unwnd

Oka wants to vote me out lol.

[Noraa]

yes i do im not exactly hiding that my death pool is fire/noraa/mom

ok, scum. next time you roll scum, make sure to not forget the part where you're not supposed to open wolf.

[Noraa]

Noraa, Ydrasse, Hatters
Mom, fire doggo, Harley
death pool

^the above are actually really good groups. What do people think?

[Noraa]

norra how can i convince u oka town. im like super confident willing to place myself in death pool for it.

Ok you can die with Oka if that's what you want. I don't care. As long as Oka dies.

[Noraa]

noraa scum

lol.

[Noraa]

Dr Quinzel already has a named seat at my table, I will not form a group without her.

who is that?

[Noraa]

Noraa, Harley, Hatters
Mom, fire doggo, Ydrasse
death pool

[Noraa]

Noraa, Harley, Hatters
Mom, fire doggo, Ydrasse
death pool

what are your cases for your death pool? i don’t see sans/oka as scum

the people that you see as scum are all LHF. So I really do think my SRs are better even if solely because of that.

[Noraa]

Noraa, Harley, Hatters
Mom, fire doggo, Ydrasse
death pool

what are your cases for your death pool? i don’t see sans/oka as scum

the people that you see as scum are all LHF. So I really do think my SRs are better even if solely because of that.

Oka, even if town, needs to die for those trash reads.
Sans, which assuming from your tone, is hectic. Unless he starts hard town reading me soon, I guarantee 300% that he is scum.
Hectic NEVER. I promise you NEVER reads me as scum here. NEVER. N E V E R.
Hectic is the one person that has been so interested in my meta that he's asked me about it and we've had whole conversations about my meta.
We've talked about my emotional state in games. We've analyzed (kind of) my posts. He's seen so many of my games
He never reads me wrong here. I am sure of it.

[Noraa]

i really want norra and oka to work together here cause i think both are town and very sure ofi t.

I don't even care if Oka is town. He can die now.

[Noraa]

that’s not a case

i’m asking why you have the reads you have, not your opinion on my scumreads

i don’t wanna do the thing i did as fey on this >_>

Oka is scum who's called basically everyone scum and is okay with anyone dying except himself. That is scum mindset.

[Noraa]

Cool so I am now UTR
awesome. Imma go actually pay attention in class now lol.
But Oka should die today
let's say he's town. Who is more obvtown. Me or him? Is it worth keeping him around to clash with me? No. no it isn't.

[Noraa]

like literally noraa is doing exactly what i did against ank in starry night when i felt like i was going to go down

Well your scum game sucks ass then.

[Noraa]

I would like Mom alive tho.

[Noraa]

Or ye culd just consider ah moment, The Tsunami Queen is an emotionally charged player, is aware of the situation an is tryna to wrangle some sense intae the game and get done what ye couldnae do.

<3
I love tea parties! They understand me so well <3333

[Noraa]

noraa's proposition won't pass she literally picked the three players that have the least amount of scumreads on them as her deathpool. like we've counted this before.

blah blah blah.

[Noraa]

Sans is not hectic I don't think but if sans is hectic, he is 100% scum here.

heya, can you explain this read? i think you're probably town but i don't really want to deal with another Pyro situation where you call me scum all game while i'm town. it's a little frustrating.

Oh so you are hectic. Ok. I don't want to say my read on you quite yet as to not get tunneled. How about you go first?

[Noraa]

Noraa/Harley/Hatter
FB/Sans/Ydra
Mom/Oka/Unwnd

I’m fine with this if second pool is death pool

uh no.

[Noraa]

any death pool involving fire or noraa can't happen if mom isn't in it, she's said so explicitly she'll leave to save

no one cares because we aren't yeeting fire or me.

[Noraa]

Ok Fire, you really wanna die right?
make the death pool Fire, Unwnd, Oka.

[Noraa]

mom don't leave because fire dying isn't necessarily a bad thing. fire is heavily SRed plus they want to die.

[Noraa]

you probably don't replace Aaron with Noraa if you're scum, you dislike playing scum so i see it as less likely you open yourself to meta and have to fake things by playing as Noraa

Aaron was obviously unsurvivalistic, especially in the way he started scumreading me after i townread him, and that's town!Noraa while scum!Noraa probably reciprocates the read to stay alive

i can see certain players playing the way they did as Aaron as scum to be townread for their approach, but i don't see you as one of those players

you sound particularly rigid but perhaps that is just the gimmick. im not sure tbh.
What do you think the death pool should be?
And you are correct, I would not choose to rep in Noraa if my role pm were red. I hate that color to its core.

[Noraa]

I don't think fire is scum.

[Noraa]

fire ur like the only person not okay with that

ur like the only person with a non functional reads list.

[Noraa]

i dunno, i haven't caught up yet

fire, hatters, mara (if she's just gonna suicide otherwise)

I do not agree with this. I believe Oka must die today. Anyone else is compromisable.

[Noraa]

Ok well read up and try to hurry. We don't have much time left.

[Noraa]

i suppose a fire/noraa/hatters team with mom being pocketed isn't out of the question am im just going on megatilt because of the active players in thread

but if that's true, fire will red and i can take us to the finish line, remember no nks and me+unwnd is exodia

PFFT.
if you are town, lol just lol at this play.

[Noraa]

propose a backflip to Harley and Ydrasse

I don't agree with this group tbh.

[Noraa]

ydrasse whats your solve looking like? i feel like we agree on the solve and i mean just getting a single fire red means an autowin. i just have to hedge on a fire green.

no one agrees with your solves because it has me in it.

[Noraa]

I want to be in a group with one of ydrasse or Harley.

[Noraa]

That is why I do not agree with sans' suggestion

[Noraa]

I'm so glad to see that Time still holds his grudge with me.

We have 24 hours remaining, Lady Quinzel I do apologise, I was wanting your input but the game state appears to be degrading more as we speak.

I wish to formally request a dance with the Lady Quinn and Lady Ydrasse.

no. I want Harley and Ydrasse in different groups. They are both powerful town resources. They should not be in the same group.

[Noraa]

noraa can be green if you are green fire.

I'm green regardless of anything and everyone here except you sees it because you're stubbornly still trying to see if you can manage to yeet me and im telling you that its NOT. HAPPENING. period.

[Noraa]

Sans, Ydrasse, Mom <- sort each other
Noraa, Firebringer, Hatters <- sort hatters
death pool

[Noraa]

if fire is scum, it clears me but im already cleared so eh

[Noraa]

Ok so im pretty UTR now. Imma let town figure the rest out. I think I've done my job of making myself obvious town and don't really wanna tunnel in because I occasionally think Oka is town and then start scum reading everyone else so that's fun. Y'all figure this out. Once im in the hood, I'll do more.

[Noraa]

You guys can choose for me and I trust you won't put me in the death pool now so I can relax. ADIOS

[Noraa]

ICE CREAM TIME NUMMYYUMMYYUM

[Noraa]

ICE CREAM TIME NUMMYYUMMYYUM

Umm share with the rest of class

NO! mine.

[Noraa]

fire what if im right and ur wrong except on u

what if noraa is scum and you've pushed me down a bad path

i dont think what noraa is doing is particularly hard as scum and aaron was scummy

lol and no one in this game knows me less than you

[Noraa]

*you do

[Noraa]

Every single person in this list knows me better than you do. I don't think you get a say in this when they all say im obvtown.

[Noraa]

Bird.

[Noraa]

Btw, Pyro, why I scum read you in the versus.
I have thought it over and I believe the reason is because I am used to you being obvtown. As in when I am scum and you are town, people seem to TR you and I think ur towny as well.
What happens is that I had too many scum games and I never realized how difficult it actually is to TR someone.
So, when I don't TR you instantly, I end up thinking you are scum when it is simply that I don't have experience with you as town. I've always been the scum and you, town.

[Noraa]

basically what im saying is once a certain thread of thought is loss its loss forever, what makes u confident that this isn't a shoshin/chennis situation?

pfft. what a joke.

[Noraa]

Ok well Oka dies today. Besides that I don't care about anything else

[Noraa]

actually, I take it back. We are forming groups right now. We need to hurry because if we wait, people can use the excuse of not being online.

[Noraa]

Let's do this.
Limited time deal guys.
Death pool: Firebringer, Unwnd, Momrangal

Dancing:
Harley, Noraa, Hatter
Ydrasse, Sans, Oka

[Noraa]

look fire, i already have my "townbloc" of me/unwnd/ydrasse/sans/harley, im willing to hedge over one of them because i could be third impostering. there's a reason why we can't use townblocking as the full strategy though, you are seeing it right here.

You're not in the town block lol.

[Noraa]

we aren't flipping unwnd and fire together.

I don't care about all this bullshit pre flip analysis. I do not think fire flipping scum clears anybody.

[Noraa]

Let's do this.
Limited time deal guys.
Death pool: Firebringer, Unwnd, Momrangal

Dancing:
Harley, Noraa, Hatter
Ydrasse, Sans, Oka

DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS?

[Noraa]

IT doesn't matter. We need to get teams together asap. otherwise this is automatic scum win.

[Noraa]

fire i already have enough people willing to work with me to force.

no you don't. you will never force me into a death pool.

[Noraa]

ydrasse, sans, unwnd have all indicated they are okay with it.

and ydrasse and hectic have already said they think im town.

[Noraa]

Offer to dance with Harley and mad hatters tea party

[Noraa]

yeah u dont have consensus on norra right now.

It'd be an accomplishment if the bird could convince even one person im scum here when im so obviously town that everyone but him sees it.

[Noraa]

Mad hatters, accept it.

[Noraa]

If you are town, accept it.

[Noraa]

We need to get pairings in today. If we wait til tomorrow, who knows if we can get it done.

[Noraa]

Offer to dance with Harley and mad hatters tea party

Lady Quinzel if you accept this offer, I will also accept it.

bruh accept it now. If lady quinzel says no, this dance won't work out anyways.

[Noraa]

Offer to dance with Harley and mad hatters tea party

Lady Quinzel if you accept this offer, I will also accept it.

bruh accept it now. If lady quinzel says no, this dance won't work out anyways.

I sincerely believe you are best paired with Mother Dearest.

Mother dearest very clearly said she wanted to not dance with me. Accept the offer. We don't have time left!

[Noraa]

I'm so glad to see that Time still holds his grudge with me.

We have 24 hours remaining, Lady Quinzel I do apologise, I was wanting your input but the game state appears to be degrading more as we speak.

I wish to formally request a dance with the Lady Quinn and Lady Ydrasse.

accept

i should still be able to reply when i’m home but if not i’ll talk about my read on you privately

ugh. Ok whatever

Dance with sans and Oka

[Noraa]

not interested in dancing with harley and i, ydrasse?

accept the dance with me.

[Noraa]

Oka this is your only chance to live. You're gonna accept or die and I mean it.

[Noraa]

Ydrasse already accepted the dance with Hatters and Harley so that is gonna happen and we should just let it happen.
Sans, I and ??? are gonna dance. Nows the time to accept, Oka otherwise you get put in the death pool.

[Noraa]

hmm.

you think im town but aren't sure. this pt is the time to sort me more thoroughly is it not?

[Noraa]

i'm fine with that too, you're both likely town

Officially accept it by quoting the post and bolding 'accept'

[Noraa]

not interested in dancing with harley and i, ydrasse?

i’ll do that too

I like the groups without that one because it feels overpowered.

[Noraa]

Queen Tsunami, why are you interested in partnering with Oka?

Because I suddenly have started SRing firebringer

[Noraa]

oh fuck you already did propose that sorry

I would like to see you sort Hatters in the pt.

[Noraa]

noraa if fire is scum this game should be autowin

unwnd is like never scum with him, im cleared as well

if we want to win, help me find scum in the world of fire being town and stop threatening me

You are not cleared. Firebringer flipping anything doesn't clear anyone.
I am locktown not you. You should be helping me not vice versa.

[Noraa]

Queen Tsunami, why are you interested in partnering with Oka?

Because I suddenly have started SRing firebringer

You do realise Mother Dearest has made clear her threat to evict her group if you or firebringer come into threat, as it stands from Mothers perspective I believe she would want you and fire paired within the same grouping.

I have put her in the death pool.

[Noraa]

nora i get you’re passionate about this but you’re making this game unpleasant (at least for me) can you tone it down

Oka keeps saying im scum and its ridiculous.

[Noraa]

Harley might not come online and if that happens we have no choice but to throw her into the death pool. That is my worry atm.

[Noraa]

nora i get you’re passionate about this but you’re making this game unpleasant (at least for me) can you tone it down

Oka keeps saying im scum and its ridiculous.

ok cool you think that but you’re being so draining right now
maybe consider the way you’re acting emotionally beckons some people to scumread you

perhaps but I don't like Oka and I've already compromised the biggest thing by removing him from the death pool which he deserves to be in regardless of alightment

[Noraa]

Ok so what even is consensus.
I know I am not consensus.
I know ydrasse is not consensus
I know Oka is not consensus
I know hectic is not consensus
But what does consensus end up being? A bunch of LHF and I have no idea why we should go with consensus if that's the case :/

[Noraa]

Its only annoying if i cant respond in a similar fashion but if noraa greenlights it whats the harm you know

Just like playing 2014 ms all over again

You didnt give me a single chance when I switched to Noraa so you got shit for it. But sure I think you got your fill.

[Noraa]

As for your scum read on me, I don't care about its much nor do I plan to change it.
You can't get me killed here anyways so regardless of your alignment, you might as well give up on pushing me.

[Noraa]

Especially if you are town, you should not be pushing me because it is not happening today.

[Noraa]

Whoa whoa what the hell why is there suddenly 54 pages

because I repped in.

[Noraa]

Wait hatters. Why are you not accepting your pairing? if you don't, you must promise you will be one tomorrow and a decent amount otherwise you will get thrown into the death pool if we have no choice.

[Noraa]

I think everyone that doesn't accept something today has to promise to be on tomorrow.

[Noraa]

Im just worried we don't get pairings in and end up automatically losing and that's a pretty lame way to lose tbh.

[Noraa]

I would rather pair with yourself and Mother.

I will not do this pair, sorry.

[Noraa]

I would rather pair with yourself and Mother.

I will not do this pair, sorry.

Have trust in me, my Queen.

I really don't think its a good pair but if it comes down to that, I can think about it.
What everyone needs to consider is that with the current pairs the way they are, Oka is definitely dying.
As much as I have had issues with his refusal to resort me, I do think it is true that he might be town and I also do think that he should not die first.
This is Noraa's brain speaking.
Noraa's heart says throw Oka to the wolves.
But generally, the brain is right.

[Noraa]

I believe that Firebringer should die today regardless of alignment and not because I dislike them but because
1) they might be scum
and
2) they are highly SRed
So as town, their best gift to town is flipping green for people to reassess the situation.
Momrangal and hatters. One of those is going to be the extra person in the death pool there as a sacrifice. a coin flip if you will.
The last person in the death pool is unwnd simply because I haven't seen anything towny there and it seems to be fairly consensus as well.

[Noraa]

I agree with all of that. now how do i get u to dislike me.

you can't. I like you too much.

[Noraa]

if u liked me so much u should share ur ice cream

no no that's not for sharesies

[Noraa]

Then I would suggest Mother, Fire Puppy and Queen Tsunami for that grouping.

Leaving myself, Wind and Oka - and I would be

VERY[/v] strongly assessing the group, having them held at ransom.

no. fire puppy has to die today unfortunately.

[Noraa]

You replacing accounts is not going to cause pooky to go ahh lets just rewrite that role pm

Only way id resort is if something AI happened

You said Aaron was scum and you were unwilling to resort him because he was not engaging or answering questions which implies you would resort if he did.
I do all of that. You should resort me but you didnt. If you are scum, that is why. If you are town, stubbornness is the reason.

[Noraa]

I think you should figure out Ydra/Sans/Firebringer/Oka sooner rather than later. I've been townreading Ydra for her interaction with Koba but Koba isn't here anymore and I no longer think that interaction is exclusive. I think tone is simply not enough for me at this point. That's what makes everything so hard because I feel everyone's personality much more strongly. I think this table is full of people who are really self-aware, almost to a dangerous aspect.

Why am I exactly put into consensus? I don't think anyone has really dropped a reason to dislike me based on the argumentative process. It's all just feeling me out and relying on some conceptual behavior. The familiarity of the room almost is what is making me uncomfortable, because I have a feeling the few players who are town are withholding all these secret tells they have on friends/familiars and don't exactly want to share. This does not help me and I don't think it will help us in the long run. I know the game is early but walking into the next phase still at this level will only lead to problems.

I dunno. people kept throwing you in death pools so I assumed.

[Noraa]

You replacing accounts is not going to cause pooky to go ahh lets just rewrite that role pm

Only way id resort is if something AI happened

You said Aaron was scum and you were unwilling to resort him because he was not engaging or answering questions which implies you would resort if he did.
I do all of that. You should resort me but you didnt. If you are scum, that is why. If you are town, stubbornness is the reason.

and... why should i redo my reads when i called you out on something you adapted to it? like i realized you were the same person very quickly, you want to know why? because pooky never wrote aaron requested replacement. i acted confused because i wanted to nail you on a lie.

I'm not stupid. I know that no request generally means its the same person.

[Noraa]

plus aaron being noraa is not exactly a hard thing to spot, like it was noticed on page 1

You think I don't know that?

[Noraa]

Nora, propose to dance with the Fire Pupper and with Mother, I have trust between the three of you, you will have a strong mind. I also trust in your play My Queen.

Dr Quinzel needs to accept the dance with myself or sans, Ydrasse will be dancing with her regardless unless she has a proposal she would like to make.

The remainder are forced to group together.

No. Doggo needs to die.

[Noraa]

Nora, propose to dance with the Fire Pupper and with Mother, I have trust between the three of you, you will have a strong mind. I also trust in your play My Queen.

Dr Quinzel needs to accept the dance with myself or sans, Ydrasse will be dancing with her regardless unless she has a proposal she would like to make.

The remainder are forced to group together.

No. Doggo needs to die.

How confident are you in Mothers reads and in her alignment in this game?

not confident at all.

[Noraa]

then why would i resort you for changing accounts.

Lets say I didnt change. You said you would resort if I engaged and answered questions which I did do. Why didnt you resort? Hm?

[Noraa]

Sure I did force a resort. But so?

[Noraa]

I don't care lol.

[Noraa]

You promised a resort. You didnt do it.

[Noraa]

You're so stubbornly trying to argue your way. Are you here to win an argument or win the game?

[Noraa]

you gonna drop it or no?

[Noraa]

like i have a scumread on you, i tell you why i scumread you, and you decide to change how you are going to play based on my reasons for scumreading you? that's like textbook scumplay. town is not that desperate to get townread by a singular other townie that they have as a bottom read.

ok, scum.

[Noraa]

ur just going to suicide on the both of us

sounds like a good time.

[Noraa]

OKA AND UNWND DANCE WITH ME

the problem I have with this group is that like ... this is the death pool if it is made but I am not happy with the death pool not having doggo.

[Noraa]

doggo - oka - Momrangal death pool is ok tho.

[Noraa]

Firebringer- probably town, can probably win the game for us
Noraa- definitely town, will play better post mom death, and post oka death but can still get focused without those conditions
Ydrasse- scum
Mad Hatters Tea Party-???
Sans Undertale- probably town
Harley Quinn- town
Momrangal- me
OkaPoka- ???
unwnd-???

I dont hate this. If Mom flips town, I'll give ydra to the wolves. If mom is town here, that SR on ydra is very very likely correct.

[Noraa]

Why do you think FB is scum Noraa?

What does he gain from trying to get you and Oka to work together as scum here?

feels TMI

[Noraa]

Ydrasse- scum

Go on this a bit further?

I would like to see more on this too

[Noraa]

Nora-Sans-Harley would be my preferred other team

OOOO I like this team!

[Noraa]

noraa why dont you think fire and unwnd can never be scum together

why do you care what scum thinks?

[Noraa]

norra he has been talkng to me plenty for my opinions and he thinks i am scum.

eh I don't like talking to my scum reads.

[Noraa]

The question I have is that this hellfire that apparently happened

Do people believe that was an intentional stoking of the flames, or a byproduct of personality clash? Because if I am scum and I were being accused then I just make the situation even worse and make town assess the damages.

unwnd doesn't believe I am town?

[Noraa]

Where I stand if you put Hatters/Moma/Harley all in a death pool you almost always flip at least one scum. Guaranteed.

mmmmmm im not sure I like that pool.

[Noraa]

Where I stand if you put Hatters/Moma/Harley all in a death pool you almost always flip at least one scum. Guaranteed.

mmmmmm im not sure I like that pool.

That's probably because it doesn't comprise a team which is why the deathpool idea kinda sucks. You're sacrificing very likely two town just to kill one scum

hm but I think Harley is basically conftown.

[Noraa]

If you're playing the game that way you need to not go 'lets put all the 3 scummiest people into one pool' rather you put like two nulls and a scumread because working off your own confbias (especially if wrong) just resets the gamestate

hm. well Harley is not a null for me.