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Nyahah, surely a skeleton such as yourself would prefer some
S p A g E t T i?Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Nyaa if I want to join the royal guard I must impress Undyne not only with my fighting, puzzle and human trapping skills, but also with my disguise capabilities! And nobody ever expects someone with a magnificent top hat like mine to be in disguise!!In post 116, Sans Undertale wrote:
bro? i didn't know you were here. i don't know why you're dressing up as some wacky magician but i'll help you find a human.In post 110, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Nyahah, surely a skeleton such as yourself would prefer some
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Hmm, a brief read of what has transpired and led me to a number of conclusions. OkaPoka is welcome at my table, as is Ydrasse. Mother Dearest needs to be much muchier. DkKoba has my love and support in their ongoing unfortunatlities, however, can remain within the dark pool, should they wish to be a hero then they will have ample opportunity. Aaron has a sense of the ruin upon them. I would offer Sans a seat at the table, however, some may have a bone to pick.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Begging your pardon miss, but my read upon you is not based upon your read upon me. I find your overall carefree and enjoyable nature to be genuine and without ulterior motive.In post 317, Ydrasse wrote:
why am i welcome at your table? you're one of the people i'd put in the group to be elimmed rn so what do you find towny about me?In post 312, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Hmm, a brief read of what has transpired and led me to a number of conclusions. OkaPoka is welcome at my table, as is Ydrasse. Mother Dearest needs to be much muchier. DkKoba has my love and support in their ongoing unfortunatlities, however, can remain within the dark pool, should they wish to be a hero then they will have ample opportunity. Aaron has a sense of the ruin upon them. I would offer Sans a seat at the table, however, some may have a bone to pick.
I would consider myself much more of a wildcard. It's generally considered unwise to give a child tea.In post 319, OkaPoka wrote:potential babysitters if not in deathpool:
okapoka, harley, ydrasse, unwnd
potential wildcards if not in deathpool:
koba, aaron
honestly ??? if not in deathpool
sans, mom, hatters
With that in consideration and your post following up your explanations, you will find I am most agreeable in terms of votes. I am no so easily swayed in my desires tae see dae ruuin o dae bluudy big haed.
For what it is worth, I have no intention of playing the hero, that is a job for Alice, not I. I simply make the hats, and pour the tea.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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My reads are currently too weak to form anything solid upon the basis which you have proclaimed.In post 341, OkaPoka wrote:that's good to hear.
hatters what are your thoughts in my tentative groupings? any changes you'd make or?
In post 321, OkaPoka wrote:okay here's my tentative groupings, i expect much commotion as a result
deathpool:
koba, mom, aaronI would swap Mom with unwnd or Harley currently.
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okapoka, harley, sansGiven the adjustments, Unwnd in exchange for Sans; Harley in exchange for mother - if not an outright swap for unwnd and mom.
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ydrasse, unwnd, hattersI would much prefer My brother, Sans or Mother Dearest over unwnd.
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Presumable is the correct word. Mothers activity so far has sparked no warning within me. I fail to see why she is held in such low standing.In post 366, OkaPoka wrote: interesting, elaborate on the presumable mom townread? am i missing something?
You haven't, but nor have you posted in such a manner that I am able to read.In post 395, Harley Quinn wrote: What have I posted that’s even remotely scummy?
And I ask in kind, other than what you perceive to be an unwelcome creature at my table, may I ask what I have done that aligns me with the Red Queen in your view?In post 404, Harley Quinn wrote:Rn, I’m probably disliking the most Aaron and MHTP. If I had to put a third one in there, I don’t know, maybe Mom or Koba?
With MHTP, their read on me looks sheepy but Aaron is just seeming really weird. Maybe it’s an over reaction on my part but it’s his read on Ydrasse that make me think he might be trying to pocket her.
I will say, though it is the point... I do not wish to be grouped with DkKoba.In post 439, OkaPoka wrote:as it stands it looks like its going to be koba + aaron + mom/hatter if we want to build this off consensus fwiw
This is quite the abhorrent and egocentric manoeuvre given what has been discussed.
I must say the ability to simply bruise a persons ego so easily is quite the reflection upon the parties involved.
DkKoba, I do hope we play again. I find you an enjoyable person.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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No I did not, apologies.Ydrasse wrote:also @ hatter did you ever reply to 354?
To elaborate further, you are acting without agenda and seem to be attempting to gauge the players individually based upon their efforts, tone, mannerisms and contributions and attempting to eliminate any sort of existing bias you may have, acknowledging it when you do.In post 354, Ydrasse wrote:also: so, you find me carefree, but like... does me not pushing you/scumreading you bother you at all??
like, if you're town, shouldn't you be sitting there and wondering "huh, i wonder why this person is doing this if they're town"?
maybe you did this internally already but i didn't see any process in this read and tbh 'enjoyable' is sweet but it's not really a reason to townread me
I am no stranger to being read incorrectly. I have no reason to challenge your read currently given the basis of the other reads and methodology you have employed to form these reads.
That you are reading me in a negative light without attempting any sort of push upon me does force the question of motivation, given your overall approach, I have determined that you may simply lack the confidence in your read upon me when compared to reads you hold upon others.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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The allocation of a pool means frankly little to me. As town I hold the power to remove people if I become convinced I am placed with anti-town folk. I have no intent to do this without being more assured of my reads than the White Queen is of her oath to never bring harm unto another.In post 548, Ydrasse wrote:how have i not pushed you though when i’ve had you in my death pool for most of the day? i’ve made it clear that i preferred you when it’s relevant and it was only not having this reply that kept me from really doing more with you?
idk it’s strange to me that you label me as unconfident on this read when its the complete opposite and that should be obvious (at least to me) from what i’ve been posting.
like i literally said my townreads were thre ones i was more unsure on
Your own failure to begin to engage and attempt to sort me directly is a failure of your own creation. We have not knowingly played together prior to this, and thus and reads we have at least to my knowledge are rapidly formed to ensure the first - if short - deadline is met in an optimal fashion for the town to secure victory.
Therefore your consignation of myself to the dead pool without any sort of directly attempt to sort me, and then to challenge me on thus is based on little more than minor pings and gut. I do not consider little more than random assignment to be a "push" but merely stating opinion.
Neither of those are within the realms of my concern.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I am heavily amused that you expect my read upon you to be affected and manipulated by your read upon me.
I am not one for the declaration of "Ye gods you are a vaccum." - despite your apparent desires for me to do so.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I look forward to it.In post 583, Ydrasse wrote:@hatter: you’re literally lying about our interactions/what i’m doing and when i’m home i’m going to reply but i have been directly engaging you with the things that bother me so i have no clue why you’re saying i’m failing to engage and sort you ?????
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I have absolutely no idea what you could possibly mean. Tea?In post 576, Firebringer wrote:r u roleplaying or somethingRemember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I believe this covers the summary for my unwillingness to townread you, Ms Quinn. You want it too much and it create a cause for concern. That said, I do not scumread you currently.In post 644, Harley Quinn wrote:I’m kind’ve getting a bit frustrated with people who claim they don’t tr me yet haven’t given a single reason for that.
I do not consider my discussion with Ydrasse a push. More a conversation with a slight heat. The interactions there have no intent to "push" to an alignment, more to allow one to come naturally. Given I am quite cute of my read upon Ydrasse, I have absolutely zero requirement to push there.In post 647, OkaPoka wrote:you know what is weird
mad hatters and mom, rather than pushing each other, are electing to push ydrasse hmmph. would a mad hatters + mom + ??? team be possible?
I do believe that you are talking from your cheeks in this regard.
Perhaps you would care to answer it?In post 659, Harley Quinn wrote: I kind’ve like Hatter’s questioning me on 404. That’s what I meant by certain slots: aka Aaron mainly and now also unwnd sr me but never giving any explanation for it or ever actually trying to engage me. Why are they not interested in doing that? Don’t you think that’s kind’ve strange, neither of them trying to engage me or ask me anything?
Then your bias is confirmed and adjusting your perspective drastically from the now. Might I suggesting retiring for the eve?In post 665, OkaPoka wrote:Its more me hedging my bets in some world where im completely off base and if thats the case the team would be ydrasse/sans/harley
Im preflipping basically
Still think fire and aaron are scum but i think theyd be scum together
Idk it might be a little confusing, simplest way of just hitting scum is still fire/aaron/??? I think
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My catchup contained this:
You are not earning your townread, but demanding it. Your way of viewing this is quite amusing as again I do not SR you currently, you are towards my early considerations, yes; however, to rate you between -10 and 10 you would be around -2.In post 674, Harley Quinn wrote:What do you mean by wanting it “too much”? I really don’t see how it’s exactly unreasonable to expect a slot that expresses a read on me to give a reason for that read? Or do you think my response ought to be, hey cool, I super appreciate that sr that you gave absolutely no reasoning for?
I find their rep-out to be NAI, and given the toxicity of the prelude I commend DkKoba for preserving their sanity and health above the matter of a simple game.In post 741, Momrangal wrote:I hate to use replacing out as a tell, but I don't really see scum!Koba repping out like that. They felt like their credibility as player was looked down on, and if it was me I would be more keen on keeping up the toxicity to bury the game state more and as town, I would rep out.
Firebringers entrance is town
And I would think that scum Koba would be less combative, even against okas plan, even if they didn't agree with it.
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In post 789, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:While I do not wish to share a group with fire, I find this agreeable, given the situation we face.
Mother, Aaron, would you care to join me for this dance?Recinded.
Mother, Fire, would you care to join me for this dance?Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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That you are so assured of whom my primary account is amuses me. I wish to remind you that I do town read Mother, and while I do not Townread Fire, I trust in her judgement. While you may consider this a group of death, I consider this to be quite a positive grouping overall.In post 798, Sans Undertale wrote:i'm not sure whether or not to townread hatter's cooperation and readiness to die
they've done a very similar thing as town before on a different account
I would also accept dancing with Dr Quinzel, it would be most interesting to have a psychiatrists assessment on why people consider me to be quite mad.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Your persistence does amuse me, I can assure you that your guesses have been quite wrong thus far.In post 811, Sans Undertale wrote:ah
well that takes away my reason to townread you, hatters
and yeah, i'm quite certain of your identity, bud, i think we both know i'm right
I am curious of what caused your read upon me to change? The shift in your perception of my "wilingness to die" or my reads?
Dr Quinzel, Mother, Would you care to waltz?
I am curious if multiple proposals can be made, as I would also like the former to stand based upon Mothers commitment to her stance.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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The problem is, where reads conflict a deathpool can be a townpool within the players contained within. I consider both pools I've proposed to be town-inclined thus far. Personally I would prefer that yourself of Oka are placed in differing pools, but I would also be happy to see the banishment of Aarons Fire and Wind grouping.In post 815, Sans Undertale wrote:they're saying they want to make that grouping as a non-deathpool
which seems very strange since they're listening to oka and i's advice on the players in the bad time pool we wanted, yet wanting to use it as a town group insteadRemember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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There are many players within this community who are willing to perform such a service to prove their point.In post 817, Sans Undertale wrote:purely your willingness to die
why did you propose to fire and mara specifically? is it because oka/i suggested it?
I have expressed a willingness to pair dance with Mother prior to your suggestion. The compromise with fire was considering her stance, and did take your suggestion into mind.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Fire was a compromise I was willing to come to, my preference is for yourself and Mother currently.In post 822, Harley Quinn wrote:
@Hatter, you proposed to me and mom, does this mean you no longer want to dance with Fire?In post 819, Sans Undertale wrote:
they're agreeing to hatters/fire/mara, which was the previous bad time pool we proposedIn post 818, Harley Quinn wrote:
Well who is in the death group then? Aaron, unwnd, Fire right? I mean you were okay with mom, me and Hatter, so I don’t understand why they’re agreeing to that is scummy?In post 815, Sans Undertale wrote:they're saying they want to make that grouping as a non-deathpool
which seems very strange since they're listening to oka and i's advice on the players in the bad time pool we wanted, yet wanting to use it as a town group instead
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You and Oka are strong players, clearly. I do townread you both however I feel it may be best served to have you seperate for the groupings. The dilemma then is we have but 3 groups, and one must be banished and currently I do not wish to see either of you banished.
My thinking will require mapping, pardon me a moment.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I have mapped it out, and rather than subject you to the scribblings of a lunatic, I will simply subject you to the ramblings of a madman.
These are my thoughts currently and are quite impossible to obtain sane grouping from.
Don't pair
ydrasse with Fire or Aaron
Sans with Wind, Oka, Dr Quinzel or myself.
Mother and Wind
Myself with Wind or Aaron.
Try and pair
Mother with Fire
Fire with Wind
Myself with Mother
Myself with Dr Quinzel.
Sans with Mother
Aaron with Wind
The reasons for these are many, and to me there is no "clean" setup. Due to the heavy variance in reads we all have - as already exhibited by my partial satisfaction in the "death pool" as a town pool we are not going to find a solution that works for us all. Some variance, randomness and entropy is inevitable and should be at least partially encouraged.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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That would mean you had a mind to begin with! Did you forget we're skeletons again?In post 834, Sans Undertale wrote:heh.
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My Queen, you know the truth of the mask I bear, and you know the variance in style that comes with said mask. If you would consider:In post 966, Noraa wrote:Mmm fine Oka you just want me to say Aaron was me right?
Yeah, Aaron was me. This replace in was a test to see who would reevaluate me.
I understand Aaron's gimmick was strange and hard to engage but I know that Noraa is easier to connect to. Anyone that refuses to reevaluate my slot is basically insta scum read for me.
That you held an alt with a gimmick making it harder to connect, making a Grand Reveal and expecting a full and complete reassessment...
What reaction would you expect from those here should I do the same?
And I ask you to please be careful around potentially hinting at my true identity. I lowered the mask in trust.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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When the persona is the gimmick, the reads must be held accountable. I fully expect should my smoke and mirrors fail that I be held accountable to all I have said and committed to.In post 989, Noraa wrote:
attacking a gimmick is stupid, bird.In post 987, OkaPoka wrote:
oh wait remember this one this one was a real gemIn post 554, Aaron wrote:
Dkkoba is town. Don't question it.In post 494, unwnd wrote:I'm not engaging you further on this, everything is just an argument to you be to won, not necessarily to reach understanding. That isn't the way I like to play the game, and the only mistake I've made thus far is engaging you at your level. That is why I insulted you, because I just didn't assume you have the capability to be humble. To have any sensibility.
Despite this, you're playing this game and I respect the mod's choice
It's not my decision whether you live or die, despite my own coarseness
I would ask you answer the question, my Queen. Also as you're aware, we do not have the days required to sort you beyond your gimmick and so as I have stated you are accountable to your gimmick.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I find mothers change of heart slightly alarming, Dr Quinzel, do you have any thoughts on whom you wish to potentially join us? I do believe Mothers ignorance is a declination of my proposal.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Dr Harleen Francis Quinzel, also known in Gotham has Harley Quinn.In post 1001, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im not accepting any proposals to dr quinzel becuz i dunno who that is.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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???In post 999, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:I find mothers change of heart slightly alarming, Dr Quinzel, do you have any thoughts on whom you wish to potentially join us? I do believe Mothers ignorance is a declination of my proposal.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I believe that a grouping of Mother, Queen Tsunami and Fire Puppy is a general consensus. If one of you were to propose the dance it would generate a suitable amount of movement, I believe.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Of that list I would swap Mother and The Light Mage? Hmm. I need to gain a correct alias for her.
My knowledge of yourself and Mothers hydra and Mothers stance towards Fire Puppy leads me to believe that is optimal grouping from all perspectives involved.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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If we get majority vote, we will form the groups.[/quote]Queen Tsunami, you are a greater asset to town when you hunt, as your senses are keen and increasingly accurate.
Everyone give opinions on this.Noraa wrote:In post 1050, Noraa wrote:Ydrasse, Firebringer, Noraa
Momrangal, Harley, Hatters
Oka poka, Unwnd, Sans <- death pool
Mom and Hatters are seemingly ok with it.
I have expressed a desire for 2 peoples to be swapped.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I have expressed a desire for 2 peoples to be swapped.[/quote]In post 1062, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Queen Tsunami, you are a greater asset to town when you hunt, as your senses are keen and increasingly accurate.
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Everyone give opinions on this.In post 1050, Noraa wrote:Ydrasse, Firebringer, Noraa
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Mom and Hatters are seemingly ok with it.
If we get majority vote, we will form the groups.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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In post 1069, Momrangal wrote:dance with Hatter and with Sans undertale
Pedit why does Unwnd need to liveRegrettably, I must decline.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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You are both my strongest town reads currently. I also believe you both may are thinking the same things as myself, or at least will be able to see my perspective and as a group I believe we should be a force to be reckoned with.In post 1088, Ydrasse wrote:i’m willing to hear you out on the why hattersRemember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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This is something I am willing to discuss after forming our group.In post 1102, Ydrasse wrote:
who do you want to kill right now?In post 1095, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:
You are both my strongest town reads currently. I also believe you both may are thinking the same things as myself, or at least will be able to see my perspective and as a group I believe we should be a force to be reckoned with.In post 1088, Ydrasse wrote:i’m willing to hear you out on the why hatters
I ask you have a little trust in this Loyal Dormouse.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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There is the possibility to force them to work together if you are so inclined.In post 1116, Firebringer wrote:i really want norra and oka to work together here cause i think both are town and very sure ofi t.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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In post 1122, OkaPoka wrote:plus they have chosen to be annoying all game, refused to engage me at all when i was trying to get them to elaborate. i have elaborated my thoughts through and through and they open up their case with okapoka is not elaborating enough and not engaging with me wahhhh. guys im going to be obvtown wahhhhh ur all so bad wahhhhh.
Might ah suggest ye turn doon the personal attacks, theres bin enough ah that toxic crap in this game ahraedy.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Or ye culd just consider ah moment, The Tsunami Queen is an emotionally charged player, is aware of the situation an is tryna to wrangle some sense intae the game and get done what ye couldnae do.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Agreed.In post 1142, Firebringer wrote:Please everyone stop posting for at least 15 minutes to cool downRemember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I'm so glad to see that Time still holds his grudge with me.
We have 24 hours remaining, Lady Quinzel I do apologise, I was wanting your input but the game state appears to be degrading more as we speak.
I wish to formally request a dance with the Lady Quinn and Lady Ydrasse.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Then we succumb to sheer random chance.In post 1249, OkaPoka wrote:its legitimately hard to truly townhunt when we've had no flips in a 3v6 setup that incentivizes not pushing a scumwincon but incentivizes looking as town as possible
we aren't RC, we aren't elli, we are really just a bunch of pretty average players trying to figure out a hard setupRemember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Then share so that one for greater fortitude might.In post 1259, OkaPoka wrote:
additionally there is the one nuclear method that im just not strong enough willed to doIn post 1254, OkaPoka wrote:look fire, i already have my "townbloc" of me/unwnd/ydrasse/sans/harley, im willing to hedge over one of them because i could be third impostering. there's a reason why we can't use townblocking as the full strategy though, you are seeing it right here.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Justify your read upon me. I grow tired of this charade.In post 1265, OkaPoka wrote:ydrasse, sans, unwnd have all indicated they are okay with it. harley's top two scumreads were you and noraa. harley also doesn't think unwnd (sr #3) and koba can be paired. i can be absolutely forcing right now. issue is hatters might be scum and holding it up and mom might be town and holding it up.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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Lady Quinzel if you accept this offer, I will also accept it.
Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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I am quite sure that breaks the terms of play, unless you mean the mechanical option then it has already been said whom is willing to do this.In post 1279, OkaPoka wrote:
threaten to leave if i dont get my way xdIn post 1276, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:
Then share so that one for greater fortitude might.In post 1259, OkaPoka wrote:
additionally there is the one nuclear method that im just not strong enough willed to doIn post 1254, OkaPoka wrote:look fire, i already have my "townbloc" of me/unwnd/ydrasse/sans/harley, im willing to hedge over one of them because i could be third impostering. there's a reason why we can't use townblocking as the full strategy though, you are seeing it right here.Remember, the best place to start is at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.
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