newbie 2060: creatures, game ofer

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meow I just woke up. Love me some votes.

Ahri, this game is your chance to redeem yourself.

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VOTE: Whemestar
I think putting someone at E-1 is more justifiable than E-2

One precedes the other, though, and doing an E-1 means you agree with E-2. I guess E-2 is a more silent way of pushing an elimination than E-1, but without more context I don't think one is more justifiable than the other.

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VOTE: Ahri
in response to

Ahri, this game is your chance to redeem yourself.

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WhemeStar is marginally less relaxed than when I played with him when he was town. My sample size is 1, though, so this is not too conclusive yet.

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cat can you guess why i voted ivy

Something something animu bad?

Anyway, so far, Ivy has been a bit too agreeable perhaps with her unvote on WhemeStar. She still seems to lean towards him being maf, though:

Whilst I do see the scummyness in Wheme's posts, I'm not sure we want to cut Day 1 discussion to right here.

Whereas you lean towards him being town. I guess this sounds like a fairly basic reason to vote her, so I imagine it's something else.

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For Saudade, I'm the cat of this game.

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Fencesitting? Fillering? It'd be too early for both. I can't blame her for her WhemeStar vote yet either, most votes are random still.

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No no no........................!
it's the need to state the obvious that pinged me

I'm sleepy and will elaborate further tomorrow, but take into account that she's a newbie. Her posts don't yet strike me as needing-to-state-the-obvious (filler?) in a scummy way.

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tbh, Clasko, I think you're townreading way too easily.

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(1) You were only the third vote on the endlessdark wagon, (2) you voted when it was clearly still RVS, and (3) how can you scumread someone who hadn't even posted yet when you voted for them?

I think Demainer is on point here and WhemeStar's frustration is not the towniest thing ever either.

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No no no........................!
it's the need to state the obvious that pinged me

I'm sleepy and will elaborate further tomorrow, but take into account that she's a newbie. Her posts don't yet strike me as needing-to-state-the-obvious (filler?) in a scummy way.

No but this tell was usually what newbies fell for while the veteran gods (me) knew to avoid it

If Ivyeo is not an experienced player, I can see stating things in a more-than-necessary clear way as expected. Ivyeo, what's your experience with mafia?

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Before I go sleep, my guess is WhemeStar/Clasko mafteam.

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What frustration?

VOTE: Endlessdark

This made me lol.

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To clarify -- I'm down to eliminate WhemeStar. I'm not voting him yet in order to prolong the day / get more info.

I'm a little bit concerned about my read, though. WhemeStar, your play isn't ideal so far, but you almost feel like an obvious elimination. Despite the fact that there's rational arguments against you, the ones Demainer pointed out, and your vote on me which seemed rash, my read on you is more based on feeling ultimately. You could just be having a bad game. Do you genuinely think I'm mafia and if so mind elaborating?

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Yes, for fun.

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What game did I play with you before? Was it the newbie I got night killed n1?

Yeah, we were masons.

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I don’t like how you are set on me being the flip on page 5

Yes its page 5 (well 6 now), but we are also on the 6th irl day for our in game Day 1. Maybe I am just not accustomed to the pacing of games on this site, but it feels like we are approaching the point where we just have to pick someone. Like there is only so much info we can really gain in day 1 until we force someone to claim, no?

I am getting pretty antsy for us to l-1 someone just so we can gain new info. Force someone to claim their role, then decide if we want to actually hammer the person based on what they claim. I mean if we wait to much longer, then if we L-1 someone, and decide we shouldn't hammer them, we won't even have long to form a new wagon.

I am not necessarily saying that I think it needs to be you, I would be happy for us to L-1 anyone on my scumread list tbh, so for now, I am gonna be on the biggest wagon between Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

VOTE: Ivyeo because I have sat on the Whemestar wagon for a while, and the Ivyeo wagon is the same size, so might as well mix it up lol

People who responded to this post:

VOTE: Lukewarm

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town? Unless there are special mechanics in this setup I'm not aware of.

Not getting town vibes from that recent post.

What are you guys talking about? Lukewarm's post is sensible. The person we're eliminating obviously has to claim and it's useful information for the town. There's no getting around this and it's not a scummy thing to push the town into action a bit.

I don't understand why we need role claims so early in the game, it's only going to hurt town?

The rule of thumb is to only claim when you are on the verge of being majjed.

The part I specifically take issue with is this:

I am not necessarily saying that I think it needs to be you, I would be happy for us to L-1 anyone on my scumread list tbh, so for now, I am gonna be on the biggest wagon between Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

Those three names can't all be scum at once, so Luke, do you think any of them are particularly more likely to be scum than the others?

How is it an issue that Lukewarm outed 3 scumreads? Of course Lukewarm is aware they're two mafs, clearly they have to narrow down the suspects from the playerpool and come to an elimination consensus with others. If you push a single scumread alone, as opposed to a pool of three, there's less chance others think it's that particular person too.

I don’t like how you are set on me being the flip on page 5

Yes its page 5 (well 6 now), but we are also on the 6th irl day for our in game Day 1. Maybe I am just not accustomed to the pacing of games on this site, but it feels like we are approaching the point where we just have to pick someone. Like there is only so much info we can really gain in day 1 until we force someone to claim, no?

I am getting pretty antsy for us to l-1 someone just so we can gain new info. Force someone to claim their role, then decide if we want to actually hammer the person based on what they claim. I mean if we wait to much longer, then if we L-1 someone, and decide we shouldn't hammer them, we won't even have long to form a new wagon.

I am not necessarily saying that I think it needs to be you, I would be happy for us to L-1 anyone on my scumread list tbh, so for now, I am gonna be on the biggest wagon between Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

VOTE: Ivyeo because I have sat on the Whemestar wagon for a while, and the Ivyeo wagon is the same size, so might as well mix it up lol

Do you not have preferences between the three of us? Your post makes it seem as though you just want to eliminate someone rather than anyone in specific, and you gave the three names that town appears to be most willing to eliminate right now.

Same answer as to Egix96.

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Wheme and Luke are townleans for me lets go we might get a win here yet

I can't find rationale for townreading Wheme in any of your posts, did I miss it?

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Also, Wheme is still not playing rationally. Primarily after his vote on Lukewarm.
VOTE: WhemeStar
To be fair, I don't know WhemeStar's meta. I could be wrong and perhaps he's just playing chaotically.

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And where the fuck is endlessdark

The day was taking too long and I got bored.

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Ahri why are u playing like such a lynchbait

Based on my sample size of 1, nothing new for her.

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What do you think about Dem, Ivyeo?
And what do you think about me, Ahri?

Dem is a lean scum for me. They were pushing pretty strong on Wheme, but their most recent post was them doubting their Wheme read, followed by silence as our votes still aren't coming to a majority. I'd like to hear where they want to go now whilst we're still not fully unified.

What's wrong with somebody doubting their read?

Dem's fine. His aggressive play is attracting attention which I wouldn't expect maf would want.

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Also, I apologize to Wheme if I'm wrong with my vote. I can't really say I've seen something that makes me think you're genuinely helping the town. That doesn't necessarily make you maf, but it's more than what I have on others.

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It wasn't the doubt, it was the doubt into immediate silence.

The guy said he's sticking with the vote:

It does make me a bit less certain that Wheme is scum, because based on that, Ivyeo and Wheme can't be on the same team. But I'm sticking with my vote because I trust my gut feeling.

I wouldn't say silence from him is an indicator of anything.

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Also, I apologize to Wheme if I'm wrong with my vote. I can't really say I've seen something that makes me think you're genuinely helping the town. That doesn't necessarily make you maf, but it's more than what I have on others.

Do you think ahri is helping the town more than me then?

Perhaps not. However she sounds way more relaxed than you. You've got plenty more posts than her but your posts' content isn't really helping.

Also, I apologize to Wheme if I'm wrong with my vote. I can't really say I've seen something that makes me think you're genuinely helping the town. That doesn't necessarily make you maf, but it's more than what I have on others.

Do you think ahri is helping the town more than me then?

Do you think your helping the town by getting prodded and being bored with the game?

I'm still outing my thoughts, silly. Doesn't mean I can't get bored at any point during the game.

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Guys I'm so sorry, life has gotten in the way a bit and so I was inactive. I'll go through the content and give you my thoughts.