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newbie 2060: creatures, game ofer

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:12 am
by schadd_
welcome to newbie 2060: creatures

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also known as 'animals' or 'beasts'



Spoiler: playerlist
  1. Demainer
  2. Clasko
  3. Ahri
  4. Lukewarm
  5. fferylt
    endlessdark

  6. Ivyeo
  7. WhemeStar (SE)
  8. unwnd
    Bell Saudade
    (SE)
  9. Egix96 (SE)

Spoiler: reveals
day 1: WhemeStar was a
vanilla townie
!

night 1: Ahri was a
vanilla townie
!

day 2: Demainer was a
vanilla townie
!

night 2: Clasko was a
town cop
!

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:17 am
by schadd_
general:

- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread.
- Day 1 will last for 10 days, then other days will last 7 days (or until an elimination is achieved).
- Night Phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During night phases, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated).
This includes specific timestamps; please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule.
Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- "Bah" posts are not allowed.
- on this site, we generally don't use the term "lynch".
- If you break any of these rules, you might get modzoinked.

voting / player actions:

- Vote either with vote tags (VOTE: schadd) or with bold (
vote: schadd
). Note that I didn't include the underscore in my username; you may choose to use a string that will uniquely identify a player to me instead of the exact thing.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- You may vote No Elimination to Not Eliminate.
- An Elimination will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then no elimination shall occur.
- Following an elimination, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
- If nobody dies for 3 consecutive day and night phases, the town will win.
- If you have a Night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role).

activity:

- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
-
if you would like to replace out, please let me know by PM and don't talk about it at all in the main thread.


mechanics:

-
Aquamarine, 21B35F
is my color. Please don't use it.
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:18 am
by schadd_
Setup Information

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:19 am
by schadd_
Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:36 am
by schadd_
sent out role PMs! once i hear back from 7 of you i shall begin affairs

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:23 pm
by schadd_
Day 1 Starts!


Spoiler:
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vote count 1.0


not voting (9):
Demainer, Clasko, Ahri, Lukewarm, endlessdark, Ivyeo, WhemeStar, Saudade, Egix96

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate a player. day 1 starts now and ends april 6th at 4:25 central US time; in (expired on 2021-04-06 04:25:00)


mod notes
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:43 pm
by Demainer
Mawnin everyone! Looking forward to this game :)

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:18 pm
by Egix96
VOTE: endlessdark

Dark = evil.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:02 am
by Demainer
Yeah, let's do this. VOTE: endlessdark

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:38 am
by Lukewarm
Hey everyone!
In post 8, Demainer wrote:Yeah, let's do this. VOTE: endlessdark
VOTE: Demainer for immediately bandwagonning

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:00 am
by Demainer
Are you trying to defend endlessdark?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:35 am
by Clasko
Hello, everyone! Nice to meet you all!

So, RVS - VOTE: Ivyeo - Hi!

This is my first Mafia game on this site, although I've played, like, 3-4 games elsewhere offsite back in 2014, so bear with me if there's the odd abbreviation I don't understand that isn't detailed in the wiki.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:19 am
by Egix96
In post 9, Lukewarm wrote:Hey everyone!
In post 8, Demainer wrote:Yeah, let's do this. VOTE: endlessdark
VOTE: Demainer for immediately bandwagonning
Is it necessarily scummy though? It's a good way to spark early discussion, and scum would probably want to avoid making moves that attract a lot of attention early on.

Admittedly though, Demain's reaction is a bit of a loaded question, since as far as I'm concerned it may as well be saying, "Are you scum with dark?" which obviously no one would admit to.

===

To those who don't yet have an avatar: I recommend that you set one at your earliest convenience, since it will make your posts easier to identify.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:23 am
by WhemeStar
Hihi VOTE: endless dark

I like a wagon

L-2 btw. Which means 2 more votes is a hammer which is a flip. Something we don’t want currently.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:03 am
by Lukewarm
In post 10, Demainer wrote:Are you trying to defend endlessdark?
No. Endless dark hasn't said anything, so I don't any kind of read on him. We are in the random voting section of the game rn, and you joining a vote seemed as good of a reason as any lol

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:05 am
by Demainer
Interesting dynamics, let's see what happens from here.
In post 12, Egix96 wrote:Admittedly though, Demain's reaction is a bit of a loaded question, since as far as I'm concerned it may as well be saying, "Are you scum with dark?" which obviously no one would admit to.
Well, all questions are loaded in some form or another, at least mine makes it clear that it's loaded.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind a response from Lukewarm.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:30 am
by Ahri
In post 13, WhemeStar wrote:Hihi VOTE: endless dark

I like a wagon

L-2 btw. Which means 2 more votes is a hammer which is a flip. Something we don’t want currently.
Third vote is always maf, btw

if anyone wants to quickhammer i'm down :doge:

VOTE: endlessdark

**NOTE: it is L-1 here so if you vote endlessdark it hammers the day

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 am
by Saudade
In post 13, WhemeStar wrote:Hihi VOTE: endless dark

I like a wagon

L-2 btw. Which means 2 more votes is a hammer which is a flip. Something we don’t want currently.
hmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 am
by Saudade
VOTE: whemestar

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 am
by Saudade
In post 16, Ahri wrote:
In post 13, WhemeStar wrote:Hihi VOTE: endless dark

I like a wagon

L-2 btw. Which means 2 more votes is a hammer which is a flip. Something we don’t want currently.
Third vote is always maf, btw

if anyone wants to quickhammer i'm down :doge:

VOTE: endlessdark

**NOTE: it is L-1 here so if you vote endlessdark it hammers the day
double hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:48 am
by Saudade
imagine the person i signed up to play with gets speedhammered page 1

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:55 am
by WhemeStar
no triple hmmmmm?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:04 am
by endlessdark
meow I just woke up. Love me some votes.

Ahri, this game is your chance to redeem yourself. :-)

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:06 am
by Demainer
In post 21, WhemeStar wrote:no triple hmmmmm?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:26 am
by Saudade
Losers find your own gimmick