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I remember the one time we were both scum we sucked so much I think we're too angelicIn post 16, Meuh wrote:Evil doesn't fit me cause I've gotta be here to carry the town to victory Haven't rolled it yet though so idk if I'm good at it at all
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lets pretend its purposefulIn post 20, Meuh wrote:You won't be able to carry if you have several people scumreading you again
last game i carried so hard wdym
In post 20, Meuh wrote: ofc ofc we're too angelic to be scum, we're so angelic we accidentally become really obvious evils that day after we were both essentially outed scum was so fun though omg being open about it and not caring anymore was nice
it was so funny, but it really doomed us so hard, but it was all purposeful!! we just didn't know it was yet...
I haven't played with most of the people on the list, but I think I remember playing with a couple of these people before!! I was so hyped for this game, because from what I remember they were fun.In post 21, Meuh wrote: I don't know anyone else in this playerlist though so nice to meet you all!
I hope everyone else is fun, but I gotta wait until they post to say everyones gonna be 100% fun.
why does he need to die..? isn't he just a jester or something?In post 22, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Except Not_Mafia, he is not welcome. He needs to die.- marcistar
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whats rq?In post 25, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If i was team with N_M i would rq.- marcistar
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ahhh, so you hate him?In post 27, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He is a troll. Confusing. Hammers wagons on E-1. Doesn’t explain his positions.
Lynchbait as town, obvscum as mafia. Destructive force of villainy.
Etc.
i kinda find his playstyle funny (tho its hard for me to make a decision on him, and others who play similar like that, i think.) I think if people who play in jestery playstyles like his get vote killed it's more likely to be a scum motivated wagon, tho idk how i would think about wagons on these types of players if they were scum.
so i find players like him useful if theyre townies
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I don't really like reading into peoples other games, i like just using what i already know but idk about what the others think.In post 40, Pearofclubs wrote:If anyone wants, I can give my entire playing history for examining.
oh shit bro, you've caught me I guess meuh will have to solo carry the scumteam nowIn post 40, Pearofclubs wrote:So I noticed, if you take marcistar, put the c on top of the r, and drop several other letters, what do you get? maFia. Kind of.
marcistar, how do you respond to this compelling and legitimate evidence?- marcistar
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shh its meant to be kept a secretIn post 49, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm convinced, scum team is marcistar and Not_Mafia
whats stilted mean?In post 50, Not_Mafia wrote:Sudowoodo is scum btw, incredibly stilted RVS posting- marcistar
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ahh, i didn't really get "awkward" vibes from what he's said, it just feels like hes trying to either copy meuhs attitude or get on her good side.. imoIn post 57, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Awkward, fake, scummy, keeping up a pretense, poor acting.- marcistar
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ahhh, its fine that you see it in that way. i guess im just immune to detecting awkwardnessIn post 64, Pearofclubs wrote:"Eh, I saw it as being a little awkward, but wrote it off as first-game-nervousness. Don't know if it's actually indicative or not."
Its fine, dont worry so much (: formatting here is so hard and its just newbie games so i'm sure nobody will be mad.In post 64, Pearofclubs wrote:Sorry for repeatedly messing up xD
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I like this line of thinking from you. tho me and meuh usually sus eachother more then we townread eachother.. i don't mind you guys being careful about us if you feel it's needed tho!In post 83, iN3krO wrote:As for Marci and Meow for now I don't see anything wrong with either but I think we should all be careful with you being aquaintances as it could make you more prone to believe each other townie.
have you ever played mafia games before?In post 82, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:OOOOOHHH I just got voted how nice ummm I mean I haven't really done much either...Ok here's a sus, @NorwegianboyEE maybe...? I mean they seem kinda mean...hehehe- marcistar
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is 2056 the one that just ended? if it is, I remember I mainly scumread you yeah.In post 85, Meuh wrote:In 2056, I'm pretty sure Marci scumread me? I felt like somewhere null about her
ahhh okay.In post 87, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:Uhhh I've played a few mafia games but not in this format..(how does one quote)
i think if you look at the top right of a post it'll say quote. idk what Q+ does tho
do you have any reasons for meuh/in3kor yet..? or is it more just general vibes?In post 87, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:I'm not sure yet but I think there's at least one mafia between Meuh, Norweegian, and iN3kor- marcistar
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Are they the ones in 72? I personally didn't pay much attention to the townreads as it feels like a more "thinking outloud" than her trying to push the view out on everyone. and so far, it feels like what I would expect from her. though, im still keeping my eye on her tho..In post 95, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:At that moment, I though meuh was quite odd because of how they had some interesting early town reads,
I also kinda townread norwegianboyee, like she has in that post. He just feels town because of how often he's been in chat and been helpful.
Do you feel she has faked reads..? I don't see how the reads could be interesting otherwise, since its such early on reads, it just seems like its meant to get a convo going.
This could be true, but then I would also feel like I might be part of that blame then since I asked a few questions.In post 95, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:then also Norweegian I thought was constantly talking about somewhat random mafia-ish topics(distracting?),
But imo, I don't really think it was distracting. We were talking about players, which would be helpful discussion for town to keep in mind..?
Tho, this is the one part of your message I might sort of agree with. I can see how he can be coasty, though I think if calling him coasty, others would fit under that bill also.In post 95, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:iN3krO is just kinda coasty(maybe only at the moment idk) So...
What stands out the most about him imo, is that he seems rather like.... idk what was the word i was gonna use.. chaotic i think?
His 75 didn't really stick out that much to me, it seems like such an easy assumption someone can make when coming in with nothing happening so far. Though like pearofclubs just pointed out, its weird they've skipped over toris thing 96 97 about them when it was right in front of them, and instead asked someone else about it. Seems like such a.. pushing the blame onto somebody else sort of thing?
I wanted to askin3kro, out of everyone why did you vote catboi in 97?? Is it your reasonings in 83?
(if it is) I feel like those reasonings wouldn't be enough to make him standout as opposed to other people in this game so far, catboi could easily just be busy.
I gotta say, I like most of these reads. (I like how you seem to be trying to solve.)In post 98, Pearofclubs wrote:Obviously it's the first RL-Day of the first Day, so don't take any of these too seriously. Just getting my thoughts out there
Catboido you have time not as often..? Or do you only enter when you see people talking about you..?
Meuh, did you suspect catboi before your vote on him..? Or is it because others have brought him up..?
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wow im boring??In post 102, catboi wrote:Largely a coincidence. I didn't have time to post last night and the game wasn't that interesting, I was busy most of the day and only came back just now. I was typing up a post when pear posted. I have a few thoughts on the game that I'm holding back for now as most of my reads are fairly weak. (⌯͒ᵕɪᵕ⌯͒)zzZ
i look forward to seeing your reads later! tho i wish you would post them now since the chat is kinda dead but issok if u dont wanna.
Do you agree with the suspicions that have placed on in3kro so far..? Or disagree..? Some people have mentioned suspicions on iN3 so far, does that affect you getting started/amplified at all..?In post 103, Meuh wrote:Pear voicing their opinion and iN3 placing their vote also nudged me in that direction, as with usual Meuh gameplay™, a lot of my reads are started or amplified by just hearing other people mention these things. Probably confirmation bias to a degree but eh, that's how I roll
I don't have many reads rn I won't lie, it's kinda hard because it just seems like the same few people talking with others coming in once in awhile, and theres nothing all that solid, but I'll give my best shot and hope someone comes to interact with it!
Toriiiiiiiiiiii -Earlier, I thought they were kinda nervous/unsure, but I didn't know if it would point to anything. I dont think they're scummy as of rn, just seems like they need to get the groove into things stillneutral
Samawoodo -I didn't agree to how he could be seen as awkward earlier in the phase, though I find it quite weird that since he defended himself, he hasn't come on since.. It might be because of timezones and him not having time, but I would really like to see him give more reads at this point.slight scum
iN3krO -I'm not really sure he had town intentions in mind, he seems kinda chaotic (like he doesn't wanna help town all that much.) What he's done is very surface level... (does that make sense?). I would like to see him come in a bit more often also.slight scum
Meuh -As of right now, nothing meuh has done stands out as different from the other games I have played onsite with her (where she's always been town so far). Though I'll still be keeping out my eye for herslight town
Pearofclubs -I feel like they've been playing with the goal of helping town in mind, so they're a very big townread from me (:town
Not_Mafia (SE) -I feel like it will be very hard to read him, but I don't really think anything he's said so far has been scummy.neutral
NorwegianboyEE (SE) -How much they contributed at the beginning makes me think hes town trying to help us out as much as possible. I don't really see the helpfulness coming from a scumplayer.town
catboi (SE) -I agree that we need more contributions from him now that he's had a bit of time to get in, though that isn't enough to put him as a scumread imo because he hasn't said anything weird/wrong yet.neutral
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Are you saying ur a scum?In post 109, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But i think it’s a bit naive to think that just because an SE is helpful they aren’t scum.
Are you more active as scum then..? I think if you act scummy it'll be more noticeable since ur kinda active.. its not a 100% sure read.
I don't really know if I agree with this or not, but I think its much easier to read an se when they're activeIn post 116, Meuh wrote:Yeah, I think generally speaking, especially early, giving townreads to SEs for actively contributing isn't always the best idea, I usually don't wander anywhere past a townlean on SEs for the first few pages of the game, because the townlike behaviour can pretty often be drawn down to playstyle and experience.- marcistar
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Ah okay I'll keep it in mind.In post 118, Meuh wrote:My point was more that helping discussion progress and being very present is less AI for SEs than for newbs, since SEs' greater amount of experience make it so a lot of them would just do it, regardless of alignment, while I could see newbs slip up and vary in that aspect more.
I get played soo easily I hope I don't get played this game tho.- marcistar
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So I shouldn't townread youIn post 120, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Um no, rather the opposite. I'm usually less active as scum. But just as a rule of thumb, to not assume someone is town just because they're active. Because not all SE are bad at scum like me.
I don't really know what to put you as otherwise tho
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Do you think so because of 83?In post 125, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel like scum would be trying to pocket me in this game. Also In3kro's posts have pinged me in a variety of ways.
Based on the type of person I think you are, I think it would be so funny if this happened. (tho I hope it wont : D)In post 129, NorwegianboyEE wrote:i don't wanna lose to scum!N_M.
I think it's interesting to keep in mind, toris plays so far could be either or tbh, so I'm not really sure if I would agree too much with this though. I think they just need to get in a bit more for me to be able to say confidently if that is the case or not.In post 130, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It's kinda something i see from newbie scum players all the time, very insecure (post: 80). Making reads just for the sake of making reads and not really explaining it (post: 82).
Though they do explain it in post 95. And 105 is slightly better. But i just find it like a typical scum newbie playstyle so that what makes me think he could be scum.
Do newbie scums always act this way, or do you think it could depend on how confident they are with their partner..?
I was thinking this sort of also. By "sort of" I mean, I sus them both as individual units, I don't really see them with any links to each other as of right now, though Samawoodoo has barely gave much reads, and in3kro has only like 4 posts..? Maybe they just haven't had the time.In post 131, Not_Mafia wrote:inkro + Sudowoodo?
So we'll have to wait for this side of him..? Thats so sad I was hopeing to see him come in more.In post 136, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually i think Catboi played similar in a previous game, they tend to have very relaxed start where they don’t do much. But activate and solve later.
At least as town they do.
so many posts while im trying to write this but im also trying to cook aaaa- marcistar
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I remember I thought they were nervous, but I don't really know if thats scummy or townish. I think its kinda likely it could be just because theyre a newbie, but I think they need to come in and talk a bit more about their thoughts before I 100% say cause its so hard to decide. (I just really dont know sorry )
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huhhh im getting confused nowIn post 155, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you saying you wonder if i'm thinking In3kro is scum trying to pocket me or if that post in particular is what pinged me?
because of how
you voted in3kro, and then talked about scum trying to pocket you... I thought you thought in3kro was scum trying to pocket you? is this wrong..?In post 125, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: iN3krO
I feel like scum would be trying to pocket me in this game. Also In3kro's posts have pinged me in a variety of ways.
so then in i looked back to see what might make you think this way, and ask you if 83 is what pinged you..?
does this make sense..? im getting so confused rnnnn
What scumpairs do you see him in?In post 162, Meuh wrote:The way Sama has been positioned and the way people have interacted with them have me uneasy
I should go and read back as to why I'm uneasy but when I ISOed ppl earlier to make the questions I felt like Sama was positioned in a way I could see them in a lot of different scumpairs, which is why i asked so many ppl about them
tbh I wouldn't be surprised if hes scum... I expected him to be a bit more active/give a bit more reads since he said he's played before, he hasn't really casted suspicion onto anyone except in3kro, so I think if samawoodoo is scum in3kro wouldn't be..?
Samawoodoocan you get in thread and give some reads/a readslist..?
im so conflicted, I think I need to readback on everybody because I don't think my 2 biggest suses rn would be in a team together- marcistar
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ahhh okay, i think i understand better nowIn post 165, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What i said was that i think scum would try to pocket me, since i’m getting widely townread. But i find In3kro generally suspicious because some of his posts have pinged me. Does that make sense to you now?
u thinking scums pocketing u has nothing to do with ur vote..? is that what u mean??- marcistar
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im sorry, im so confused, why does norwegianboyee have 2 votes on here..?
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I agree, I don't see the point on him holding out readsIn post 179, Samawoodo wrote:I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason (We are at D1 still)
on this note, do you have any thoughts on other people..?In post 179, Samawoodo wrote:If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them- marcistar
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Ah issok ty!
ah factsIn post 185, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My votes carry such depth, such volume. That counting them twice is only natural.- marcistar
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Can I ask for you to explain pretty please?In post 187, Toriiiiiiiiiiii wrote:SR Meuh, Catboi, marci- marcistar
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I just wanna know their thought process behind it, I don't mind if they scumread me just wanna know whyIn post 202, Samawoodo wrote:Marci was null, but i dont like how she feels worried about a null reading coming from an almost afk player (Toriii), is like she is trying to "demostrate" he is townie yes or yes, and this made me feel like- marcistar
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I'm so sorry guys I have a lot of schoolwork to do rn, and dont feel like i can put effort in rn like i have in previous days,
but I'll play after i'm done doing it for today!!
(im saying this so that yall know im gonna come back later and carry and that im not just dropping off the face of the earth) ttyl- marcistar
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i still have schoolwork to do, but I think its so true that the scum are probably happy with the state of this game, because its slowed down so much.. I expected more posts while I was doing my stuff but its barely anything yall busy?
I remember in my past games, the solutions were just to end phase.. should we do that..? or do we push inactives to give more of their opinions?- marcistar
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Toriiiiiiiin 221 you say catboi is your most definite scumread, why did you not include a vote in that message then..? Is there a reason? (:
Samawoodooyou placed a vote on tori in 15, but haven't changed votes at all since then. Is there a reason for this..? Does the vote still hold true to your thoughts on this game as of currently..?
In3kroyou gave reads earlish on in 83, what are your current thoughts onallplayers in this game?
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Meuhhas everyone actually replied to your list of questions in 146? I don't remember seeing answers for all of it, even after you explained why you asked.. which makes me confused why you didn't push for those answers a bit more?
Pearofclubscurrent thoughts on in3kro? (have they changed at all from last time you mentioned him..?)
i cant think of anything for notmafia im sorry
Norwegienboyee156, 158 the vibes were kinda there that you were starting to not trust meuh as much, 160 you kinda answered what I was originally gonna ask you, but now my question has evolved into: has meuh done anything else that pings you? or did reading into her 2 other gamescompletelydissolve your worries. (i hope thats understandable) Also whats your current reads? Last time I see your readslist was 127, do these still hold true? Of course the things you've done since then show your thought process, but idk what goes on behind closed doors and I wanna know instead of just assuming (:
CatboiI don't have much to question him on, so I think I'll wait until he posts that readlists he mentioned in 225. Though I will say, something that stands out to me is how short most of his posts seem to be. 191 looks like the longest one he has.. but I don't see alot of juicy game talk in it..?
ignoring my piling amounts of schoolwork to send out this very tiny list of questions, we love to see it.
I hope i used the right post numbers im so scared of doing these kinds of lists cuz I tried it last game and by accident put the wrong number
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Ahh now I see this.. is it because of me? i'm sorry.In post 227, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This game is low activity because there are no votes and conversely nothing to discuss as an result.
Like we need to hear if people are fine with In3kro dying today or not. And then we can continue. Or we just do nothing and wait for deadline and make an worse uninformed decision as an result.
Originally I wouldn't have minded because he was originally one of my scumreads. Now after that original read, he has more posts. When I was isoing everyone in my previous post I noticed, I can see posts from him that make me feel like he might be a townie.
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Ahaha catboi were u reading into a past game while making 239? When i click on the number thingys it links to our previous game..
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I don't really disagree with anything you say catboi i thought you were gonna have some juicy tea we could talk about but its so agreeable.
In that game you townread me because of the pressure I had, do you think I need to be under alot of pressure this game too for you to be able to be more confident in your read on me? You seem like you're kinda doubtful, despite giving me the "+town"In post 239, catboi wrote:marcistar- My first game with her, had her as a fairly strong townread easily but that was because she came under pressure early, here it's a very different game and so my read isn't as strong. I do think 101 is a fairly solve-y post and the way she's tried to prod people to get the game moving is +town but nothing I'd hang my hat on.
So to sum it upIn post 242, Meuh wrote:1. I like the way Catboi's been playing lately
2. I don't trust myself to make decisions rn, my thoughts are all over the place
3. I'd rather play without N_M over anyone else
VOTE:Not_Mafia
Also purely off activity, Ink and Catboi gone, at this game pace and at their activity would just not be great.
Tori was kinda just my natural conclusion of where to vote at first, not very active + I don't feel too strongly on them + there's already a vote there so forming a counter-wagon from Catboi and Ink sounds best on them
"buddy catboi"..?
which posts do you get this feeling of "meh" from..?In post 244, Meuh wrote:Idk exactly how I feel about Norwee's more recent posting. I'll ISO Norwee before day 2, but they're still my third strongest townread so idrc for today.- marcistar
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Hmm, not sure exactly what I think.. I just thought to mention that you followed so quick after catboi without a doubt.. you said you liked his recent posts, but you haveIn post 248, Meuh wrote:The easy way to play this for scum Meuh here would be to vote Ink and defend Catboi, unless you think me and Ink are the team.thatmuch trust in him..? That stood out when I read it.
are you suggesting you x in3kor is the team
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I agree with what in3kros saying here, the not_mafia wagon just seems icky to me tbh...In post 254, iN3krO wrote:I'm not seeing how could we follow-up on day 2 or what would NM's flip tell us (thought that's what he wants with his gameplan, I think).
meuh & catboi, is ur plans to base the next day off the nk..? I don't think a not_mafia flip would give much.. no matter what he flips, I don't see a useful piece of info from him.
Meuh's 255 - I feel like not_mafia gets more serious as the game needs it... unless if im remembering wrong..?
this just seems like too easy of an elim to be going for.
Well this is factsIn post 262, catboi wrote:marcistar:I notice you haven't made a vote yet. You should make one soon. We need to get wagons going.
I didn't really feel hella confident in anyone being scum earlier (like i had scum reads, but i wasn't confident in them...), Idk where to go I wanna make a vote that I think is scum instead of just going onto a wagon for the sake of an elim.. but with votes this spread out, i don't really see reactions to being voted..
I think despite what I want to do, that I should just stick within the already being voted because thats what'll be best for town.
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I don't see how peoples positioning on not_mafia would show information about them, since not_mafia is so easy wouldn't everyone just have an easy excuse..?In post 266, catboi wrote:Again, same question to you: Do you believe there's someone else who flipping is supposed to provide more information?
I think flipping you will make meuh/samawoodoo clearer for me idk if that would work for others too but I don't like how meuh acts with you!!! (and the way samawoodoo acted in 256 kinda gives me similar vibes to what vibes i got from meuh).
How is not_mafia subtly acting different btw...? It's too hard to read them
22 gottemIn post 268, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Just vote the people that say an N_M wagon is good, and you'll flip scum.
Works everytime.
I understand what you're trying to say here, but I disagree. I would prefer we keep as much town alive as possible,In post 277, Meuh wrote:I mean I don't really think N_M is mafia
Like I don't townread him but I'm not >50% on him being scum, not even >40%. I'm getting to the demotivated "I just wanna get through this" stage that I've hit in other games before and I'm just trying to make the game better for day 2. I should probably sit down and try to form stronger reads/reread posts but my brain is all over the place and I can't settle down on a reasonable thought process. I just want day 2 to be productive
what info did you say you would learn from not_mafia elim?- marcistar
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Like, if I had to pick between the wagons you would be the one i'm most interested in. But this was before norwegienboyees vote on meuh.In post 290, catboi wrote:Are you actually interested in flipping me? How is that supposed to give information on those two?
If you think Meuh is a better vote, that's fine, I've already said I don't oppose it.
Explain what bothered you about that Samawoodo post?
(I feel like I need to vote within somewhere thats already voted, because not alot of people are budging, and we need info from a flip.)
Well, meuhs buddying you, and samawoodoos buddying her is how I see it.
So I think generally in most cases, scum wouldn't be buddying scum.
so like if ur scum, meuhs not. if ur town, meuhs not. thats what i was originally thinking but when i think more idk but i still dont like meuh following after you so easily, I don't see a reason for her to.
so then like to explain about samawoodoo, it just seems like he did that because meuh has those kind of thoughts also. (like meuh said ur more townie... and then samawoodoo says ur more townie..) though he could just see meuh as a really townie town leader I guess..?
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I'm editing a video rn so pray I don't lag too much while typing this.In post 308, Meuh wrote:The bolded bit seems to have a jump in logic. You say you can't see scum/scum buddying being likely, but never establish why buddying has to be town/scum. I don't see why my buddying-like behaviour makes me and catboi being town/town unlikely. Or Sama's behaviour making me and him being town/town unlikely. Or all 3 of us being town! I'd love elaboration on why you don't think these buddying pairs can be town/town.
I probably should've explained more in the OG post, but like
I feel like the way you interacted lately doesn't seem townie, though there might be many factors in that like my hella bad memory, which is why I didn't push it too hard.thats what i was originally thinking but when i think more idkin my post, shows how im a bit uncertain about it.
To me, catboi doesn't feel like the type of person you would usually buddy which is why ur buddying rn seems scummy imo
Like you usually buddy people who are strong town leaders (who lead for like the whole phase..?) but catboi doesn't seem much like that. Like I can bring up examples of when you've done this out of site, but when i think about meuh x ?????, all I remember is leaders, not floaters. (does that wording make sense>>???")
I think partly I by accident convinced myself that you have to be scum
but like thats the reasons for how you might be scum, but if ur town heres how catboi fits as scum: he doesn't seem that opposed to your actual buddying...? like i got the vibes he was opposed to other parts of you, which in my eyes means he wants you to follow his lead, but also wants to leave his options to pushing you open.
tho maybe im misunderstanding, but this is what I originally thought.
for the samawoodoo stuff: like, he just seems to be doing alot of what you are..? which is why i kinda thought meuh + samawoodoo might be the scumteam. (like meuh doing stuff, and samawoodoo being inexperienced scum, so he just copies what his partner (meuh) does.)
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Catboi isn't the "strongest town leader" imo, maybe like.. at most a townie townie, but he doesn't radiate "leader" vibes. (imo) its fine if you see him as a town leader, but i dont really so I guess thats just a difference we have.In post 316, Meuh wrote:Catboi was the strongest town leader at that point though. Norwee dropped in actual leading of the game and of activity and had me less and less convinced of his innocence and had pushed on me significantly. I felt better about Pear, but they hadn't said anything in a while so they weren't actively leading either.
This setup against me, Catboi and Sama all at once makes me think Marci/Norwee as our team isn't all too unlikely
Marci knows she can get away with pushing me with meta reasoning, so considering the pressure being put on Norwee, this isn't surprising.
Marci how are you feeling about Norwee?
I still feel as if norwegianboyees town, who just got disinterested due to the game going nowhere.
she could be, but when I think about it I don't believe it. I could always be wrongIn post 320, catboi wrote:Why can't they be town who is townreading me correctly?
Huhhh im so confused, I remembered seeing it before... but now that i'm reading back..In post 320, catboi wrote:That's an interesting point about Sama repeating opinions. Do you have other examples of this?
I think it held more weight in my mind at the time, but now doesn't hold as much weight. Their very beginning of the game together.
Also when he was like
At the time it felt very much like a copy of others.. though I guess not strictly Meuh..? IDK why I remember these things as linked to meuh I think it's because he said that soon after meuh said "maybe slight scum lean" or something like that.In post 143, Samawoodo wrote:in3kro D1 is starting to be kinda sus,
Ahh, I didn't really think of it in this way.. I don't really think about activity levels oftenIn post 322, catboi wrote:Like, if we vote out nowee or Meuh and they flip town it's going to be incredibly annoying that we removed an active contributor to the game because people were too afraid to vote a lurker.
Maybe I'm just tunneling meuh too much, but I'll be going to bed (soonish..? i'll be awake but not on my laptop so no more playing )... there'll be time tommorow right..? When I wake up, if votes aren't moving around I'll vote not_mafia with you guys. I don't think he's a good vote at all, but we do need a flip. praying I have a clearer mind tmmrw- marcistar
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huh.. maybe its not the best logic but thats what I was thinking, the way she was buddying u just didnt seem all the good imo.In post 329, catboi wrote:one last post before I go to sleep, but I really didn't like marcistar's logic in 303 where she suggests if i'm town, meuh is scum or vice versa. It didn't really make sense to me, it establishes the premise we aren't scum teammates but then assumes one of us must be scum which isn't a given, and the whole idea that me fipping town would make the person townreading me the most suspect, rather than one of the people who'd have voted to eliminate a townie. I can sort of understand her concern with me not reacting more strongly to Meuh in 312 but I don't really know why she didn't ask me about it directly and just put it out there as a reason to fos me, considering she'd been looking to interact with me earlier in the game I'm not sure why she takes that approach. I find all this concerning.
do you have any questions about my logic? (:
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ah okie ty tyIn post 344, Meuh wrote:When the timer got frozen I think there was a little under 22 hours left? So however much time it's gonna take to find a replacement + ~22 hours- marcistar
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why do you think of me like this? (: I can explain anything if ur confused..
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I remember last game I played, jailkeep was used as a healer instead of trying to rb scum? So jailkeep wouldn't be sure about their info..?In post 439, T3 wrote:If we do have the jailkeeper we have a mafia.
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Tone is just like... general vibes from my wording..? I'm not faking that, but if you think so I can't really fight back against that.In post 477, T3 wrote:marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.
How exactly am I questioning jailkeeper results? Where does it say they get told "x is scum"? From what I see, they can protect who they chose against a NK, and also they can roleblock so it can be either of those? If it's even a jailkeep we're dealing with (: But thats from my understanding, if it works otherwise I wouldn't know.
Wdym without any real reads..? I remember giving reads before.- marcistar
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If i'm voted, should I not try to defend myself????In post 482, catboi wrote:I don't like that marcistar's post here is entirely defensive in nature. I had issues with how she was reading me/meuh day 1 and in general it does not feel like she's approaching the game to solve it, her posts have been distant in a way.
How do I seem distant do you have post examples?
Ahhh, i'm not really sure, but like t3 says they might have a scum caught. I think they should weigh their options though, and not get pressured into claiming. (since afterall they mightve just protected against the nk, its not 100% that they rbed the scum) so I don't wanna pressure them to claim! Let them come out on their own time imo.In post 483, iN3krO wrote:@marcistar (and everyone else tbh), when do you think it's beneficial for the town for a jailkeeper to claim? We don't usually play with jailkeeper in my? our? community...
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Huh?? I've been trying to solve its really hard thoIn post 486, catboi wrote:marci. You're still just responding to things that are said and questioning or talking about theory. I don't see an interest in solving. This is what I mean.- marcistar
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I'm sorry guys I was too pissed to play yesterday ;-; my brothers so annoying
In much better vibes today but its so hard to not jam out to my weeb songs
I think t3's lil push for jailor to out is kinda scummy, also how he hammered norwegianboyee so soon after he entered the game... just feels like he didn't wanna give the effort to give in depth readsIn post 489, catboi wrote:Really? What are your reads right now?
Otherwise, i'm not really sure.. but I think vfp feel kinda weird idk how to explain well, but like... well I just don't really like what he's done so far. since I townread pearofclubs, his read on them didn't really sit right with me originally. His thoughts could be valid tho, since he has an outsiders pov on it and wasn't there in the moments.. But idk it just seems to be pushing at really nothing..? Pearofclubs would be such an easy push for a scum to make without getting blood on their hands, since they're majorly townread.
So like my order would prob be t3 -> vfp -> catboi -> not mafia -> pearofclubs -> meuh- marcistar
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Ask me things then...? I don't check the thread often anymore since i've been a bit busy with classes and such lately, but i'll still see it.. I can reply to whatever you askIn post 516, Pearofclubs wrote:I stand by my prior assessment that I can't really remember much that she's done, despite at this moment she has 48 posts, which is the fourth most in the thread. I take notes on other players when something pings me (although I'll fully admit this past week I've been pretty busy/lazy about this game) and I don't really have all that much about her. I'd somewhat forgotten she was playing. That's bad.
I think Marci's a good place to look today. VOTE: Marcistar
It really isn't helping that she's not around now.- marcistar
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I feel like pearofclubs posts had good intentions.In post 525, VFP wrote:What makes Pear town for you?
If NM hammered yesterday would that be scummy like T3 knowing how Nm plays?
Knowing how not_mafia plays, I wouldn't think he was scummy if he hammered.
I didn't feel like he would flip scum.In post 525, VFP wrote:Why didn't you vote Norwee yesterday?
Ahh whoopsies, I didn't notice that.. I think I would place them between pearofclubs and not_mafia on the list
Ahh, I didn't think I feel like this, but I guess I do LOL.In post 528, Meuh wrote:So yeah in conclusion, Marci's train of logic on her read on the Catboi/me/Sama slot trio doesn't really make sense, especially her read on me. If Marci is elimed and flips red, N_M looks absolutely terrible, considering the way she handled the day. However, she still has plenty of possibilities for a teammate, as she wasn't heavily discussed yesterday (and therefore doesn't actually have much interactions we can POE scumpairs off of) and has been very non-confrontational. Her only day 1 vote was the one on me.
I think it's worth mentioning that Marci is generally a non-confrontational player, so it's nottooscummy as to how she handled day 1, but I still think town!Marci would be slightly more aggressive than she was.
I really townread you rn, because I thought of stuff during the night Clearer mind
so im not as badass as i am in my mind ??- marcistar
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How many votes am I at..? I'll claim if I need to, but i'm not sure if I need to now.. or if i should wait a bit longer..?In post 543, Pearofclubs wrote:What're your reads as of right now? It'll be good to have the information around, should you end up flipping green today- and even if you don't get elimmed, it'll be good to have your thoughts on the books before the days end.
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I don't like t3 trying to out jailkeep when it could easily be multiple things + their vote yesterday was stinkyIn post 550, Not_Mafia wrote:Why those 2?
I don't like vfps push on pearofclubs, it just seems like something hes doing to not get any blood on his hands, y'know?- marcistar
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How much times left..? I'm so confused because my forum times show up different from irl time so im not sure about that IWOHFDSIn post 596, Meuh wrote:We do need to consolidate on something, I'd say Marci should probably claim? Not that much time left- marcistar
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AH WAIT DOES IT ACTUALLY- i thought it was just a still time, does it move :0In post 601, catboi wrote:posts will tell you regardless of time zone, the most recent one is just over 22 hours
Anyways I see meuhs debating on voting me, and I got alot of hw to do today so I think i'll just claim because idk if I would be able to come back before that.
I'm tracker, i visited meuh and she wasn't visiting anyone.
Ahhh ty i've been wondering so long.. daylight savings confused me so much in my recent games LOLIn post 605, Not_Mafia wrote:User Control Panel > Board Preferences > Set Timezone- marcistar
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Ah sorry I had to dip for class, I do agree he's scummy. Imma read up the rest of the thread before placing my vote there tho in case anythings changed.In post 607, Not_Mafia wrote:marci vote VFP
Whyd u want my claim in the open..? just because i was close to being elimed?In post 608, catboi wrote:I thought she had been softing that but honestly I wanted the claim to be out in the open. This doesn't fully clear Meuh since mafia can multitask but it makes her more likely town than not
615 (praying its the right post) seems like VFPS just latching onto the bandwagon lukewarm has been trying to get going... in efforts to save himself maybe? Pretty scummy imo.
And then,
seems like partners protecting eachother till death do them apart <3 (but not in a way to make it obvious)In post 616, Lukewarm wrote:I don't have a scum read on VFP atm. I currently have them as a null read. I would need some good arguments built around him being scum before I would be willing to vote for him.
It kinda seems like ur fishing for a counter here. Don't believe me?In post 622, Lukewarm wrote:Everyone probably knows this, but it is a newbie game, so might as well make sure; you can counter claim this even if you are not the tracker. A tracker and a cop cannot be in the same game, so a cop in addition to a tracker, can counter claim this
I originally didn't think of the catboi quote you quoted for this, but when u made it bright big text it spoke to me on a spiritual level.
Tbh, I don't know quite if catboi completely meant it has to be a doc, i know sometimes in general I just refer to anything that can stop a nk as a doc.. I know theres some of those in the setups, maybe he could think like this too?
What makes you uneasy about him..? I remembered u townreading him last day.In post 626, Meuh wrote:Catboi has me a bit uneasy
I hate the idea of a pearofclubs vote so much because d1 it felt like they were genuinely doing things without an ulterior motive, does that make sense?In post 627, Lukewarm wrote:I cannot for the life of me, understand why everyone is so resistant to a pear vote. Like no one has made a town case for him that I have seen, and he just feels so scummy to me (even ignoring the anecdote thing)
Do you have something to claim..? It quite seems like it here. How does lukewarm seem like an obvscum to you?In post 629, catboi wrote:If T3 or marci express a willingness to vote me I'll claim.
I think Lukewarm is playing like obvscum, beyond that I don't have strong reads to leave
637 638 its obvious t3 misread or something here, but the chunk of posts, looking at it with that logic, I like. Though this doesn't weigh too heavily on my reads.
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Vfps response after that chunk, I don't know if it seems genuine.
It just assumes he read it as a CC, I think he just completely skimmed over, or misread the names. I think its an attempt to place sus, while knowing its true, to make himself look better.In post 641, VFP wrote:Why would you think that Catboi CC Marci here and still want to vote NM?
644 I didn't really think about that wth, that does make it seem a bit more damning.
646 At this point hes pushingonlypear. Seems weird.
So pears town okai. At this point its looking more like a VFP X Lukewarm.In post 649, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm the doc, I was on Pear, now vote VFP or catboi
I think in certain situations it would make sense. Like, scum could possibly do that just to gain more info for themselves based on reactions.In post 651, Meuh wrote:Would scum push for a Pear elim considering what N_M just revealed?
I'm confused at this post, can you explain pretty please?In post 659, Meuh wrote:I mean I don't think they'd just hop off the wagon immediately after Marci's claim, that'd look worse than just pushing on Pear
You know the one nikki minaj song people put over something when someones rushing to do something? Thats me rn trying to do this post before going off to do my hw due today.In post 665, Meuh wrote:Marci and Pear haven't
Considering they're both being cleared as town their input would be nice
So like thinking about it, I don't understand both scum pushing on pear as much. I feel like that would be too damning to both scum if they did that..?In post 670, catboi wrote:I think scum intentionally tried to push pear to see who would defend them so they could narrow down the doctor. In that light VFP and Lukewarm both look terrible. I think T3 is the town out of that group, but I'm not sure of it.
But thats just a bit of theory, I still scumread them both based on interactions they've had with eachother.
I feel so bad for them maybe it just slipped their minds how obvious it would be.
678 I don't really agree with and it just confuses me even more, 679 is more of a clear reason to me.
In post 682, Meuh wrote:I have a hard time imagining Catboi being scummates with anyone tbh
That could always be his goal, to make it so hard to tell who his teammate is so that we run around like headless chickens. Though that seems a bit unlikely, I wanna keep that in mind.In post 683, Meuh wrote:Like his behaviour in isolation I can see from scum but looking at the broader scope of the game, I can't really picture Catboi as part of the mafia
684 Is this about VFP? its so hard for me to tell, im sorry im dumb but alot of names confuses me too much.
700 725 you repeated yourself a bit
AHHH OMG idk if this is everything I wanted to say, I forgot what I wasnted to say to a few posts ;-; but is this good? I hope none of these are incomplete thoughts but I kinda rushed it..
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