Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Momrangal]

Ego, nice to see you too nacho. Not sure what the lion did but I would love a recap of what's happened!

[Momrangal]

He claimed Miller can you confirm that please?

Wtf? No, I'm not a Miller I'm a PGO

Long time no see

Mom/Braveheart is also #badslot btw

Great way to shit push this slot before I have the chance to do anything. Why are you resorting to this over actually engaging me on what's happened so far? I'm fresh eyes and ears, presumably you would want that

knowing

I can nab scum with notable accuracy.

Unless you have other motives to pushing me off to the side before I can make an impact on the game

[Momrangal]

You guys are all gonna make me read I guess, hmm?

[Momrangal]

that is typically what you do when you replace into a game, yes

But I'm here and I can talk!


Besides you all post fast af. Tell me what do you think about what's happened so far

[Momrangal]

INFINITY YOU TOO!
What do you think about the game so far?

What do you make of Nacho and cake going after low ballers right off the bat

[Momrangal]

hi mom. are you looking for a voice to genuinely catch you up and brainstorm with, or are you doing something else?

Por que no los dos?

Pedit: first NM and now me over the more active voices? It's kinda weird

[Momrangal]

I forgot the biggest reason for My hatred of hawaii's time zone

WHOS HERE

[Momrangal]

Don't I always?


And I'm sure you do have more than pushes against low ballers. That's a little flat and you aren't a flat person.

It doesn't take a whole lot to see there are a lot things floating around you

[Momrangal]

@mara Yeah I'm not sure why cakez said that.

I do think nacho believes it's protown to lim NM here, but he's scum for other reasons[/quote
Ok soon..?? It would be just great if you could get out of whatever funk you've been in recently. I would like a bit more especially on cake.

I'll hold a bit on Nacho and NM. there's alot of spice around that

Bulge do you have other reasons to scum read infinity outside the exchange she had with me?

~Glaceon

yes

hi mom. are you looking for a voice to genuinely catch you up and brainstorm with, or are you doing something else?

Por que no los dos?

I don't think it's a good way of catching up or a good mindset to have when 45% of the other players are scum.

It generates talking about the game and what people are thinking, no? Unless you think this theory talking is alot more useful. I would so much more prefer to have an actual conversation about what you've developed as far as thoughts of the game itself. Even if it isn't done with me, less theory talk is always a bonus

[Momrangal]

why did Mom yell at me and then proceed to not generate any content?

Cuz you do things like this. It especially kills me cuz you took this exact same approach in shady. So far I've got s100% fallout rate on your alignment. Isn't that interesting?

[Momrangal]

why did Mom yell at me and then proceed to not generate any content?

Cuz you do things like this. It especially kills me cuz you took this exact same approach in shady. So far I've got s100% callout rate on your alignment. Isn't that interesting?

Ugh phones suck

[Momrangal]

Cakez who should I be voting and why

Mara, same question. I need more than”oh they’re going after LHF” because the reality of this game is we have a handful of people really good at standing out as town, the outliers are going to be on the forefront.

No. It's entirely unacceptable for a rep in to have a bigger game state awareness compared to someone who's been here from go.

Oh yeah Salsa. Where are they? I liked their early posts.
Something is pinging me on DC's recent posts but I can't quite explain it.
Nacho's Mom and Leaf cases are really good. I don't think I am interested in elimming anyone but one of those two right now.

Don't I always?


And I'm sure you do have more than pushes against low ballers. That's a little flat and you aren't a flat person.

It doesn't take a whole lot to see there are a lot things floating around you

This rebuttal to Nacho is awful. Not even a defense of herself, just a straight (and weak) attack calling Nacho's push bad because...she is LHF??

why did Mom yell at me and then proceed to not generate any content?

Cuz you do things like this. It especially kills me cuz you took this exact same approach in shady. So far I've got s100% callout rate on your alignment. Isn't that interesting?

Ugh phones suck

See above

Still talking over me and I'm not calling nachos post bad, I'm responding to a post he's made. You are grossly misstating my posts.

I would be pretty unhappy if anyone except nacho was limmed today

His cases aren't someone who believes players are scum, his mindset is "why me instead of these people who aren't doing anything"

And you, my friend are mistating nachos.

[Momrangal]

Cakes, infinity, VFP, NM, Bulge

[Momrangal]

Who says going against an NM elimination is town siding?

[Momrangal]

your response to me makes no sense. I'm sorry you don't get 1 on 1 interaction but you have multiple interactions from me with multiple people, with nacho with multiple people, kismet, VFT, etc. If you want me to listen to your reads I need more than "They have easy reads." The entire playerlist has easy reads. Noone has had ANY controversial reads. It's literally how a lot of games have gone recently, where the easy answers are the right ones. You can prove me wrong by showing me if you're town (by doing things, not by complaining) so I can figure out who I have to reevaluate.

Where are you're reads? You have interactions and you keep saying that Nacho is scum and probably bussing his buddies because you're reads align?

And Nacho is scum largely because of his push against NM along with the fact that he assumes that you should he able to townread Salsa here? You're asking me what my reads are, and what I think when as far as I can see. You are tunneled on Nacho much that you think hes bussing his buddies even though he needs to eliminate three town before three of his buddies are eliminated? Nacho doesn't win by bussing everyone here and I don't see the other reads that you're talking about. Also, why do you need me to tell you where else to look when you have those other scum reads to entertain? What are you expecting from me when I had just literally joined the game?

you tried to push VFT and it didn't take. And for everyone else, I don't know who you're

But hes town for pushing the PL on NM and that didn't take?
Also, what are the other reasons for scumcho? How are you even making this assertion when Nacho backed away from that scum read before other people had serious opinions about it?

[Momrangal]

aren’t those all people who said they didn’t want an NM elim? so you think these slots are all scum with NM but refused to elim him, effectively townsiding, because ?

- lilith

also i assume vfp is supposed to be us

can you explain how you got to this pool? and then how these reads make sense in the context of defending NM from elimination?

- lilith

What's your opinion on the beginning of the game if you think 5that Nacho going for the NM pl is scum-motivated?

Conversely how do you suppose the scum partners of NM to react when they see scum!NM being pushed the way it was? I think this needs to be brought back because there was alot of pressure on Nacho for pressing against NM and no one is willing to talk to me about it. Activity plateaued as soon as Nacho moved away from the subject and no one is thinking about why that had even happened

[Momrangal]

At that moment I was in the game for just over 24 hours, if even that and you were asking me for my reads, what I thought of the game and to steer you in direction. I wouldn't, hold your hand bot when I was literally calling out for handouts In that point in time so i could see where everyones heads where and while I was laying low so I could figure out why the activity stopped when it did?

[Momrangal]

ok then do something Mom. I'm not stopping you but you're acting all indignant.

Yeah ok sure. What bearing does that even have on my alignment? I hope you have something beyond ",I don't like how she's talking to people" If my read is wrong on you it'll be apparent eventually but like I feel like you're dismissing alot of slots

No. It's entirely unacceptable for a rep in to have a bigger game state awareness compared to someone who's been here from go.

I don't really understand this. Who are you saying doesn't have good game state awareness and why?

And if you have good game state awareness to this point, where is it? I've skimmed a few of your town games since you've been back and you've become a sharp town player. This isn't that. Show me what you're capable of.

Ive always been a sharp town player but lately I've been too open and invested.

I think you're dropping you're read on venus hydra too early and pushing a town elimination especially if NM is scum Here.

[Momrangal]

VOTE: Not Mafia

[Momrangal]

idk maybe I should be reconsidering notty bc it feels like he's just pushing town the whole time but he feels so righteous about it that I think he's more likely town with his head up his ass than scum

I'm not sure how you're even coming to this conclusion. Aren't you also scum reading myself and nacho?

NM or the Bulge

And you think this despite the massive push back against him? You think this despite the fact that there are people defending him?

Right now it looks like Nacho is the easiest elimination if town. Why do you have such a dramatic reaction to my vote and why are you so keen to ignore everything that has already happened around NM?

You must have a terrible opinion on my scum game if you think Im gonna run away from a Nacho!partner pursuit

I already said the scum team is you nacho (mena/salsa) mom notmaf


All maras done is omgus all game lmao

And you wonder why I question your game awareness

Mom is a universal a undead but no traction came on her wagon
Seems pretty obvious what is going on there

Who's protecting me?

I'd love to murder Mom my worry is that if Nacho is scum that after Mom flips scum one of the Nacho drivers will be killed and it will be hard to flip him

This makes no sense. Even if nacho is scum, town doesn't need a total scum wipe to win

I need to stop at the top of 56

[Momrangal]

BULGE I SEE YOU COME VOTE NACHO

salsa also still active on site

You say you realize you're tunnelling but you haven't showed any signs of reconsidering. Why are you so adamant against even talking about NM?

[Momrangal]

Because everyone else is either so keen to either ignore him, ignore what's happening around him or seemingly chainsaw.


Like how all I've done is omgus?

Pedit: my feelings around nacho are complex

[Momrangal]

I've played with NM scum recently and the vibe is vaguely familiar. Despite the fact that his meta is what it is, there is alot of early bussing when pushed, defending by partners and redirection elsewhere.

I would hate to he defending another null read here but Its odd that Nacho gets the heat he does and it hasnt relented even after the game has moved on. Almost as if the team doesn't know where else to go outside of Nacho in the scenario of Nacho!town elimination.

Theres a soft dig against his push and walk back on eeveelutions but I don't see pushes outside of that. It feels like the oush is stale but it's still being done

[Momrangal]

I've also never actually said that I scumread Nacho

The only person that I could have actually omgussed here is cakes

[Momrangal]

I shut it down early but have since said he’s probably scum (as are you!)

But you can’t ask why I won’t consider him when all you’ve done is blind vote him lmao

Why would you shut down something you think could be a bus?

[Momrangal]

Like Mara and notmaf are definitely scum yes

But I want to take out the strong scum first.

Waitwait

What? This is uncalled for. I've had more than my fair share of scumgames where I've carried my team

Pedit: that's a post to Nacho though?

[Momrangal]

It may have been a long time but Nacho has always been weak when scum play a reach out game with him and basic, instinctive reactions don't really change with time

[Momrangal]

I think theres a chainsaw effect happening especially if Nacho rand town here, and it's an effect that happened under everyone else's noses that town got wrapped up in it. I think VFT was a major component in that and one of infinity/notsci

At the same time I don't know if noddy dogmatically pushes this hard if he doesn't actually beleive in his push. He sets himself up as being largely responsible for a Nacho!town elimination and last I remember he doesn't really have the gusto or balls to do that

[Momrangal]

Nacho himself is largely null but if I'm right about the circumstances around NM and Nachos push there, circumstantially I think hes likely town

What would you call the whole thing of Nacho gaining alot of headturns due to his early NM push,

[Momrangal]

yeah, sounded as if you were calling him out.

It kinda was but like, not in the "it's a fake read" and more "you've backpedaled on scumreads when in similar situations before"

More aptly, it feels like a play I've done with him way long ago in a fake God game

[Momrangal]

and what if Nacho is scum, like many think?
what do you mean what has happened around NM?

Then my theory is wrong.

The theory can easily be tested through a NM flip but nobody wants to even think about it. Nacho!town would be a recipient of the chainsaw defense to save NM. Nacho!scum would never be a recipient. If NM flips scum, Nacho is conftown

[Momrangal]

NM was never in danger, also who's the scum pushing nacho

I've already stated it.

If town gave you an opening to remove one of the strongest town players and defend one of your own, you wouldn't take it? Its low risk high reward unless someone spotted it

and what if Nacho is scum, like many think?
what do you mean what has happened around NM?

Then my theory is wrong.

The theory can easily be tested through a NM flip but nobody wants to even think about it. Nacho!town would be a recipient of the chainsaw defense to save NM. Nacho!scum would never be a recipient. If NM flips scum, Nacho is conftown

why would we flip NM first when Nacho gives 10x info?

I don't think that is the case.

The theory can easily be tested through a NM flip but nobody wants to even think about it

i'm just worried about the value proposition we get here if we're wrong. It's like the best gamestate possible for scum to flip town-nm on d1.

that said, his utter sandbagging, which i find more egregious than even usual, means we probably should flip him at some point

Do you think it's unlikely for town!cho to make the push to see reactions?

He’s probably scum, yes.

I think “nacho clear if notmaf is scum” is literally the entire reason that it was done in the first place.

Who do you think would even draw that conclusion outside of me? You don't have a read on Nacho outside of this

[Momrangal]

I think theres a chainsaw effect happening especially if Nacho rand town here, and it's an effect that happened under everyone else's noses that town got wrapped up in it. I think VFT was a major component in that and one of infinity/notsci

At the same time I don't know if noddy dogmatically pushes this hard if he doesn't actually beleive in his push. He sets himself up as being largely responsible for a Nacho!town elimination and last I remember he doesn't really have the gusto or balls to do that

[Momrangal]

I'm here, mind space is not great. I need a few days V/La. Monday at the latest

[Momrangal]

The theory can easily be tested through a NM flip but nobody wants to even think about it. Nacho!town would be a recipient of the chainsaw defense to save NM. Nacho!scum would never be a recipient. If NM flips scum, Nacho is conftown

I don't get this part either..... If

Nachomamma8

flips town, then

Not_Mafia

will be confscum by your logic? Then what's the problem if

Nachomamma8

flips today but not

Not_Mafia

??

I'm town

Post of the game (3?/4?)

and what if Nacho is scum, like many think?
what do you mean what has happened around NM?

Then my theory is wrong.

The theory can easily be tested through a NM flip but nobody wants to even think about it. Nacho!town would be a recipient of the chainsaw defense to save NM. Nacho!scum would never be a recipient. If NM flips scum, Nacho is conftown

why would we flip NM first when Nacho gives 10x info?

I don't think that is the case.

How?

Not_Mafia

only has 10 posts so far.

also you still haven’t provided any explanation for your scumpool

- lilith

@Momrangal

....

1)

NM only has 10 posts, but what do you think about the fact that a lot of people are not only diverting away from that elimination, but the fact thats really the only reason nacho is getting eliminated?
2 ) would you prefer to remove a strong town from this game or scum
3) I have talked about it. My pool was NM, infinity, VFP, cakes, bulge.

I THINK VFP played a major role in the NM chainsaw, is being protected by town NM and infinity is also pushing the chainsaw.

Cakes and bulge are really the only two that I haven't really exlained. What do you think of VFPS gross misrepresentation?

[Momrangal]

It really feels like cakes is throwing buzzwords and shade just for the sake of throwing around buzzwords and shade

[Momrangal]

Also, I think the first no elimination is town sided, so I'm not particularly assed to jump on an elimination that I think could be a mistake

[Momrangal]

i don't know how you read the game and come to this conclusion

You don't?

You're the only person who's really evolved past that. Noddy is stuck in a nacho tunnel, has asked for handholding, and I still don't see evidence past his initial scum read on nacho.

Unless I'm blind, the rest of his reads are associative around nacho and there are others who are just plain sheeping.

It feels like the entire universe revolves around nacho, and efforts around getting other people some attention is grounds for being attacked

[Momrangal]

Hey

Heyheyhey

NM should be eliminated today

but

Let's please slow it down if I'm right, I feel like I might be slated to die tonight

[Momrangal]

The wagon on notmafia plus my off the cuff readflip made me think he was town and I was hip shooting and Cakez seemed like a solid target as I anticipated him to take me up on my offer to kill me if I’m wrong on nacho, plus my concern over how easy notmaf was getting wagoned made it seem like ANYWHERE was a good vote

What are you talking about? NM never got a wagon going on him, at any point yesterday and everyone refused to talk to me about NM everytime I tried to talk about him

[Momrangal]

eventually

bork and VFP engaged me somewhat about it but like everyone wanted to avoid that like it's the plague.

Also, I'm a bit under the weather so bear with me

Pedit: ugh

[Momrangal]

I feel like this wagon was just as easy as nachos wagon yesterday and anyone who dared to shoot that down was likely scum

[Momrangal]

Vote Count 1-4

Nachomamma8

(2): Infinity 324, Venus Fly Trap

Not_Mafia

(2): Nachomamma8, Disaster Cartel

The Bulge

(1): notscience

Venus Fly Trap

(1): SirCakez

notscience

(1): The Bulge

Disaster Cartel

(1): Salsabil Faria

Not Voting

(4): Brave Heart Lion, Kismet, Leafeon and Glaceon, Not_Mafia

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: April 26, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-04-25 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Not_Mafia and Brave Heart Lion have 48 hours in which to post before I must search for a replacement. (expired on 2021-04-13 17:23:59)
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I don't really understand the sacrifice though. I thought Peta could have been town, and I don't recall my theory being talked about prior. People believed nacho was bussing NM but no one brought up the NM/Nacho chainsaw

[Momrangal]

Right now I'm at
{NM, Cakes, bulge} with {infinity, VFP, DC} Taking up the last slot. I thought VFP could have been pushing Nacho but Idk if skits pushes that hard when noddy was also doing the push for him, If scum. I kinda liked Ydra holding me accountable to reading them this game even though the game they were talking about, they were a PoE read. I also don't know if they position themselves on my wagon with scum partner Peta Jumpstarting it.

[Momrangal]

NM and Cakes are for sure my top two scum reads.

He's playing against me the exact same way he did against my slot in

JVS Shady tree game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
And is showing similar play to boonietoons
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And after that reiso I realized that he didn't even know that I had entered the game so him even saying that me being forgetable=scum!Mara is disingenuous

He was scum both those games, and both those games i caught him out.

[Momrangal]

Bulge and infinity are really like Poe reads at this point but then the game feels a little too easy

[Momrangal]

I've dropped the ball.

Gotta catch up, but I gotta get one thing straight. I don't think i'm a defacto choice for the chosen town kill unless I've gotten it right on NM. I've also lately been killed both before and after my expected expiration date, and scum have used my timezone and inability to be around the same time as everyone else as a reason to tag me for lurking. Every game, my post count dwarfs that of every other player

[Momrangal]

Nacho himself is largely null but if I'm right about the circumstances around NM and Nachos push there, circumstantially I think hes likely town

What would you call the whole thing of Nacho gaining alot of headturns due to his early NM push,

I would hate to he defending another null read here but Its odd that Nacho gets the heat he does and it hasnt relented even after the game has moved on. Almost as if the team doesn't know where else to go outside of Nacho in the scenario of Nacho!town elimination.

[Momrangal]

VOTE: NM

[Momrangal]

I'm really confused why Mara thinks she is likely to die if town

me too but this is another thing i'm not sure she does as scum.
i mean, i wouldn't.
at least, i'd feel like a giant fraud for even going there.

That's not out of my range, I don't think. You can look through my completed scum games (which are way to many for comfort considering I've just recently got back)

[Momrangal]

Also, lately, scum have been pushing me until they can't push me any longer for one reason or another and then kill me

[Momrangal]

Someone asked me something about cakes, I remember seeing it but I can't find it

[Momrangal]

Guys don't hate me

I forgot that I was playing a game

[Momrangal]

especially since the biggest proponent of her wagon is peta

i'll admit i've been thinking about why peta got flipped of all people but i have no insight into the level of planning that went into that decision
for all i know peta just yoloed the hammer and they decided because of that to get him out of the game
but yes, there's possibility for just massive WIFOM here i agree. 1766 still mostly echoes my thoughts on that

i still feel like mara could've taken a different angle easily as scum, but your point that nacho was much more likely than her to be the flip is something i acknowledge

Right now I'm at
{NM, Cakes, bulge} with {infinity, VFP, DC} Taking up the last slot. I thought VFP could have been pushing Nacho but Idk if skits pushes that hard when noddy was also doing the push for him, If scum. I kinda liked Ydra holding me accountable to reading them this game even though the game they were talking about, they were a PoE read. I also don't know if they position themselves on my wagon with scum partner Peta Jumpstarting it.

(her btw)

My bad, I'll remember it for next time

He's playing against me the exact same way he did against my slot in

can you elaborate on this a bit plz?

I quoted isos from both games in that post, what else you want to know? I already explained that cakes is shading and discrediting people, and I've already stated how he's just trying to make the people he supposedly scum reads as uncredible sources and throwing out scum reads just so he can have them. There isn't much thought progression in his reads and he said earlier that me being underwhelming is a scum tell for me (for whatever reason) and that isn't true, and he knows it because of his own awareness of my presence within the angel warriors hydra.

You keep mentioning that scum was trying to bus yesterday and today but you also overlooked the point that cakes was avoiding NM like the the plague yesterday and was more than eager to get on that today. Cakes was more interested in getting rid of Nacho than he was on of getting rid of NM, which Imo makes sense from scum cakes

[Momrangal]

I think she has been better today but I thought her entrance yesterday was outrageously bad and unquestionably scummy. She showed no interest in solving or engaging anyone until some pressure built upon her. I think her response to my initial attacks on her was way too defensive. I also think she made posts that fit with scum!Peta (and Peta made posts fitting with scum!Mom). She doesn't even mention Peta in her entire ISO from yesterday.

I stated more than once that I thought pokehydra was town before they repped out so why would I talk about Peta?

[Momrangal]

[quote="In

I think scum is between flea, rock, nora, and vander with rock having the best chance of being town between those and fuck if I know for the other three. At least one there is wronf

this post is so bad it literally scumpools half the game in a micro

-cake

Let's throw a random quote from somewhere else in too

[Momrangal]

How can you say you buy town!cakes for his push on NM but it completely ignore the fact that its probably the biggest reason for town!mara?

How is also everyone completely ignoring the fact that cakes/NM interactions are shit, the fact that cakes danced around NM d1 and pushed for me as a partner for NM, said that scum were bussing NM yesterday but is now pushing against anyone who eas on the NM wagon despite having scum read me for the past two days?

[Momrangal]

Im not sure about Iverson being scum here. I kinda hate the position were in because we now gotta pinpoint the remaining three scum to even win

[Momrangal]

(Bork/notty)
(Mena/iverson)
(Vft/infinity/cakes)

I think, if scum bork and noddy have been playing an A+ town games, and i feel like Mena/ydra and Iverson.are too sloppy for associtives. To rely on hydra diss to move from NM to Bulge seems like a great way to get everyone to look at you and idk, I've liked Iverson for a large portion of the game.

Skitter and lillith though woul alao have to have been playing a great game if scum so idk

[Momrangal]

i've fallen for the not maf policy yeet too many times

I stg if we have to have another conversation about policy limming and why it’s worth it I will put my face through my desk given the context

-Mena

this post just doesn't make anry sense as town. why is he so opposed to this conversation? it's not like the thread was getting blown up
the "put my face through desk" comment seems like a huge exaggeration

I have one tentative TR so fsr

he has no development of reads as stated

I'm not confident notsci is town, should I be?

Notsci is my one TR lol

-Mena

and notsci? doesn't make any sense

I wasn’t pissed at you I was just a bit frustrated that EVERYONE was shooting it down

bc I have no baseline or any idea of who it is and that inherently makes me slightly +sus unless it’s hectic (which it apparently isn’t)

I’m not SRing them, I just feel uneasy with the slot

-Mena

uneasy but not SRing is such a cop-out

I just really hate the posting around NM and notsci

@cakes

I already made my stance on N_M clear

actually I went through your ISO and couldn’t find any “clear stance” about NM whatsoever. I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned that NM is usually town when he’s being wagoned, like in panic room. That makes me think you’re trying not to lean too hard one way or the other on an NM wagon in case it does actually go through.

re: opinion on Nacho, like I said I don’t understand how someone comes to the conclusion that NM is the most valuable elim we can make D1. I don’t buy that this is a genuine town thought process from nacho. I think it’s more likely that nacho is trying to sacrifice a buddy to an elim so that he gets to direct an NK than scum!nacho trying to miselim the LHF town!NM so that he can sacrifice someone on his team who is presumably more valuable to his team than NM is to town. why ever go after such LHF like that when you have to sacrifice a partner for it? ergo, scumbuddies.

- lilith

you're literally ignoring me, so you can stop pretending that you're trying to read me whatsoever. "waiting on Lilith to give town pings" okay well how exactly are you doing that if you're not even reading my posts, and in particular the parts of those posts that are addressed to you?

- lilith

I missed this post somehow, I always address things aimed at me.
The meta that I had where NM is town if he is being wagoned has been proven not true so I don't use that anymore.

i've fallen for the not maf policy yeet too many times

I guess this was not clear enough but I have 0 interest in elimming NM today.

Cakes NM stances D1.

Yesterday he kept saying that scum is probably bussing NM and used that as a reason to push me so i dont unerstand why hes suddenly (were only hunting on thebulger wagon

[Momrangal]

mara you think both parties involved on the blitz onto bulge at the end are town?

It sounds shitty to say yes, and i know alot of people hate to scummy to be scum but ut feels so much like tthe case here

[Momrangal]

Watching as town fucks themselves over, and watching them willingly self destruct with slight budges in that direction?

[Momrangal]

instead of "the right amount of scummy to be scum"

I feel like scum tend to do what they can to keep pressure off themselves. Mena has been pushing NM all of yesterday with me. It doesnt seem apt for them to push the miselim when they can get town cred for bussing and remove a strong town presence in one go. Iverson, idk its just a feeling I cant really explain. Alot of what hes said, and how he's attempted to reach out and solve seems genuine

[Momrangal]

tonight i plan to get rip roaring hammered and probably not play mafia either

i'm gonna take mostly a break after this game too but if anyone in this game wants to hydra at some point i'd really be interested in that as kind of a side game.

I wouldn't bringing back Purpkin

[Momrangal]

Got plans today be back tomorrow

[Momrangal]

Did a bunch of cleaning today

Srry guys

[Momrangal]

Bork, why you TR cakes here?

And if you arent, why is cakes wagon hardly ever a thing despite such obvious associatives?

I'm not the only one who noticed it, either

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I would still like an answer regarding cakes

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Like I dont understand why people are keen to just not respond to me

I dont understand how cake goes from not wanting to touch NM at all D1 to tunneling the shit out of him D2

I've cased both of them, and even after the NM scum flip no one is willing to entertain my theory?

[Momrangal]

YEESSSSSS

SKITTER I WILL NEVER CONTRADICT YOU AGAIN

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cough cough