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VOTE: Ivyeo
Alright, so Ivyeo is scum this game, based on the way they entered the game. Scum is statistically more likely to enter the game first, and the first post they made reads to me as scum. Sorry I don’t write the rules, but we caught Ivyeo in the act. If I had to guess, whoever is last to enter is gonna be scum too, but don’t quote me yet, cause 2nd scum is gonna sit there in shock that their partner was caught so soon, and they’re going to have no idea how to respond here. In case anything I said before wasn’t clear, Ivyeo is scum this game. Just vote them and thank me later. gg- Andante
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aggressive? more like annoyed. I had that CP ready to go, to fill in the blank with the first newbie to post, the plan was to scare them. I genuinely didn't like Ivy's reaction to it. Wanna talk about how we had to wait forever for this to start? yeah I'm annoyed here. Rational... idk what he's doing, it's honestly annoying me, he's pushing me for an actual joke. so whatever. people were supposed to just vote Ivy too, like 1 or 2 others. to give real pressure, all these random votes mean nothing. (except votes on me, those piss me off)- Andante
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Do you really have to ask me what I don't like about this? That reaction feels weird to me lmao "oh.. haha yeah, I'm totally not scum"
idk, I'll have to see how it compares to future stuff said- Andante
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How the heck do you have a strong TR already??- Andante
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LMAO not gonna lie, if you all gangup on me, that's 100% my attitude "fine vote me out and see what I flip, you clearly didn't want me anyways"In post 46, RationalMadman wrote:
You're not the first person who has said this. This applies even to real life privacy vs surveillance issues.In post 44, Demainer wrote:This, and her first post. Town has nothing to hide, nothing to fear, why add an unnecessary /s to make sure no one misinterprets the post?
The mentality is wrong. If you are innocent, you still should fear appearing guilty, especially in a gane like mafia. Going "I'm innocent haha if you got an issue vote me and find out bitches!" Is not really appropriate for town to have.
Imagine the most skilled player of mafia possible, are they equally careful to towntell as either alignment or only careful as scum?
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For someone with Rational in their name, you sure seem to have tunnel vision for getting me out of this game lmao all cause my "entrance sucked"
bruh, it was literally a cp
VOTE: NAME [/vote .]
Alright, so NAME is scum this game, based on the way they entered the game. Scum is statistically more likely to enter the game first, and the first post they made reads to me as scum. Sorry I don’t write the rules, but we caught NAME in the act. If I had to guess, whoever is last to enter is gonna be scum too, but don’t quote me yet, cause 2nd scum is gonna sit there in shock that their partner was caught so soon, and they’re going to have no idea how to respond here. In case anything I said before wasn’t clear, NAME is scum this game. Just vote them and thank me later. gg
to get the ball rolling, and people were supposed to pressure Ivy with me, instead we instantly decided to attack me. then the "Andante outed mason read get her!!!!" yeah? well I've outed pr reads before, reads like "If X isn't a pr, they're scum" maf killed them and they were pr. and guess what... I was town. shocking
Did you ever consider stopping and thinking, why did T3 lock town someone 30 posts into the game? of course not. that'd be a rational thought. instead we're just gonna tunnel me all game, which in all honesty is going to get annoying for everyone here- Andante
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In post 91, T3 wrote:I feel like Andante did something of a subconscious slip. Andante says RM and I are masons, but why not scumpartners (from a town POV)?
I tend to not make partner reads, especially ones I say in thread, in the first few posts... like, there's not much substance to go off of. You definitely got scum points for having a lock town so early though.- Andante
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In post 96, RationalMadman wrote:So either T3 and me are both scum or both masons? Ever consider I didn't buddy him, he buddied me?
No. T3 is masons with you or T3 is scum. I don't think you'd be his scum partner, he's trying to buddy you cause you're pushing me, and I rarely get pushed. So he's trying to hide in your shadow, so you're the primary person when I flip green- Andante
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In post 99, Clasko wrote:
The lesser of two evils is ensuring Mafia aren't certain where the PR's are.In post 95, orctin wrote:If they are masons then at this point they might as well say so cause by what being said scum already know - if not then it's a sidetrack arguement to sow doubt among town
if they're both town, let maf think to hit in them. but I'm honestly not feeling town vibes from T3 so far- Andante
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In post 39, Andante wrote:Ayyy I'm liking Rathe this game!!
What's wrong with me liking Rathe's entrance?- Andante
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In post 111, orctin wrote:Andante got caught up by Rational's early post so not really sure there
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hahaha it's kinda funny how that always seems to happen everyone SRs me, then they realize I'm town, and we find scum and winIn post 117, JacksonVirgo wrote:Andante's playstyle seems to get them scum-read way early on. Just throwing that out there now rather than later
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Time for everyone's favorite part of the game!!! 1st post analysis!! Also known as entrance analysis. Last time I did this I was 0/2 on finding scum, so lets see how this goes.
T3 - Entrance is terrible. " tr on RationalMadman for actually doing stuff." this logic feels very flawed also "I don't think "sarcastic" RVS posts are that AI but I didn't like Andnte's reaction." is bad. Scum.
Ivyeo - 1st post of the game, and honestly, it feels really towny to me, unless it's bold scum going "It's impossible to be Pr twice in a row" but a good entrance. Town.
Demainer - The entrance mixed with responding to T3 feels towny to me. I like the entrances where people place votes. Town.
orctin - I like this entrance. Town vibes! Town.
Clasko - Very cautious entrance followed by various reactions to people, feels like a very "forced" entrance, it doesn't feel natural. Scum.
Andante - Town AF
RationalMadman - As an entrance you decided to attack my first post. I liked my entrance, it's called overwhelm them with words. Paragraphs make people panic more than 1 line, but your entrance was very reactionary, which feels scummy to me. Scum.
Rathe - I completely agree with their first 2 posts, same train of thought as me, so likely town.
JacksonVirgo - Chad is a country, so thanks! All lines after calling me Chad are pretty good, and I especially don't see scum trying to help someone with a read on me lol cause I'm an easy push and you know it. Town.
T3,Rational,Clasco are scummiest to me right now, and T3 and Rational are not scum, so by POE clasco should go
Ok, I normally TR trying to quickly get through RVS, but like, T3 is way too serious this early, he's watching Rational and trying to mimic?? idk, I'm pointing this out cause it feels weirdIn post 27, T3 wrote:Ivy is lean town for me if Demainer is scum. Other than that, I'm not sure about Ivy.- Andante
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^ VERY cautious
^ "You seem conflicted." What kind of line is this?? I could follow what Rational was saying pretty easily, it's not rocket science to figure out what T3 is doing right now.In post 58, Clasko wrote:In post 25, RationalMadman wrote:T3 supporting me is easily to soften me up and/or to frame me if T3 flips scum later.
Do you have a preference between labelling him town/mafia here? You seem conflicted.In post 26, RationalMadman wrote:T3 may be town, on balance, because of how actively he defended Ivy agaibst Demainer wheb he noticed she was 2/5 and Demainer's response to T3 was worth scum reading somewhat.
Nothing is pinging me to a change in meta for him. He is playing and posting as I would expect him to rn based on 2060.In post 41, T3 wrote:Also what are everyone's thoughts on Demainer. His meta seems very different to 2060.
Eh, I'm getting "helpful for the sake of appearing helpful" vibes from this:In post 14, orctin wrote:Cause it's a good play for a scummie to push on anther who made a high profile post. at the very least it attracts attention where scum want it - away from them.
VOTE: orctin
Then there's a comment on meta, is it stemming from having TMI? who knows, idk the person
"helpful for the sake of appearing helpful" vibes LMAOOO fam. the game JUST started.. AND orc was responding to me? so you're taking it out of context... something scum loves to do.
^ "I skipped the first post of the game, oh no!" you sure you weren't distracted with a private thread? mmmm
^ Ok, so on these questions you "seem to have" You ask about a lean town rather than the solid town he has marked? you ask about the solid SR, you feel no need to ask about Rational being solid town so soon? And we only care about Ivy in the lean towns? interesting. These feel like questions you don't care about the answers to, meaning you post, and leave, and think you're looking towny. These questions also don't even help progress the game, but this is the only "significant" thing you've done.In post 97, Clasko wrote:In post 27, T3 wrote:Ivy is lean town for me if Demainer is scum. Other than that, I'm not sure about Ivy.
Some questions for you, T3:In post 93, T3 wrote:Town:RM
Lean town: Rathe, Ivy
Null: Clasko
Lean scum: orctin, Andante
Scum: Dem
1. Why do you townread Ivy? You say "if Demainer is scum" but I don't see the correlation.
2. Where does JacksonVirgo place?
^ You know they aren't both masons, one is your partner, and it feels like you said this to seem towny like, by saying this, it's your argument for your partner not having to claim they're not a mason.In post 99, Clasko wrote:
The lesser of two evils is ensuring Mafia aren't certain where the PR's are.In post 95, orctin wrote:If they are masons then at this point they might as well say so cause by what being said scum already know - if not then it's a sidetrack arguement to sow doubt among town
This game is way too easy
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I mean, I don't care if it's a reference from last game or not, looking at all his lines... they are really bad, and the fact he decided to say "I skipped over this" to the first post?? ehhh he hasn't given any actual content, his lines are all super fillery, and asking questions he doesn't care the answer to. That's like a given sign someone is mafia- Andante
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In post 140, Rathe wrote:i dont think T3 and rational r partners cuz they r linked
ok, thanks for repeating what I've been saying...
thoughts on clasco?- Andante
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You do realize it was RVS, you can say whatever you want, put your vote wherever, it's all to get reactions.In post 154, Clasko wrote:
I asked that to T3 because, well, to go from being unsure about Ivy to then townread them later without her posting inbetween I found odd.In post 127, Andante wrote:^ Ok, so on these questions you "seem to have" You ask about a lean town rather than the solid town he has marked? you ask about the solid SR, you feel no need to ask about Rational being solid town so soon? And we only care about Ivy in the lean towns? interesting. These feel like questions you don't care about the answers to, meaning you post, and leave, and think you're looking towny. These questions also don't even help progress the game, but this is the only "significant" thing you've done.
And missing JV from the list I found odd as well.
And the fact they haven't addressed either of these isn't great.
You saying I don't care about these answers is just not true.
I'm saying it feels like you don't care cause your posts were all nothing posts, like, there was no substance to any, no "X feels like scum cause Y" nothing.
How you've been feels like cautious scum to me, and now you're slightly panicking cause you were "so cautious" yet somehow I caught you, and I'm telling you, there's about 0 chance I back off. In my mind I have you down as hard scum. Unless you decide to start playing for the offence, then maybe you have a chance. but if you just sit back and react, you're toast- Andante
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In post 157, Clasko wrote:
I'm naturally aware of SE's, but I think JV's posting thoughts that aren't just 'gut', and he could have let RM's town read on him slide, but he instead challenged it which looks good in my eyes. I feel scum are more likely to accept the read. Town lean.In post 132, Demainer wrote:What do you think of jack and t3?
T3, I was initially happy with - I got good feels from him going through the 2060 to get a feel for how you post, but he isn't responding well to pressure rn. I'm in a similar boat to RM in that I would like him to explain his reads.
For the record I don't mind he hard-reads someone this early. His reasoning was a bit iffy but at least he commited to it and I know where he stands, on the face of it. Null.
I don't think SE/Newbie really matters too much tbh, but yeah JV likely town lol I like his start, and I know what's to come in this game, so scum should be scared... unless he decideds to tunnel another town again lmao
tbh T3 is going to be the hardest read for me, our playstyles clash. I can't stand when people put in minimal effort and barely explain reads :/- Andante
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You go off of meta now? interesting. and you do realize not everyone is cautious and scared as scum? if scum asserts dominance early, they pretty much can lead the town.In post 162, T3 wrote:Demainer is a strong meta scumread. Rational coming in with reads and contributing feels like town, I would see early scum as more cautious plus the reaction to the mason thing.
Rathe feels like town thought streaming. Ivy is mainly a lean town because of the Demainer interaction.
orctin almost feels like he is posting just for the sake of posting. Andante has had a terrible reaction to the pressure put on her.
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In post 180, RationalMadman wrote:Well I will stay on yoyr bandwagon then. I do want T3 to kustify his scumread on you more.
Out of curiosity what ahout T3's meta is it that you say is so scummy vs his previous games?
feel free to go skim ISOs of any of his past games, and it will be very clear. and not like I care if you stay on my wagon- Andante
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In post 183, Rathe wrote:being emotional will not allow u to play the game well
call me shit at this for all I care, it's how I play, and when people anger me, it's literally not good. so I'm stepping away for an unknown amount of time, cause I honestly can't deal right now.- Andante
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In post 199, RationalMadman wrote:I think the team could legitimately/plausibly be Orctin and Andante. This also explains why Orctin joins the BW on me yet Andante lays off voting me despite being very angry. It's so that voting patterns don't come back to bite.
Of course, there is some confirmation bias involved in me seeieng this as a team.
yeah I'm not scum, and just cause I don't like what you're saying doesn't mean I think you're the scummiest one here? I think there's better people to go after than you??- Andante
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In post 201, RationalMadman wrote:If Orctin votes T3 rather than Andante here, I will like a giod explanation. I predict that is what will occur.
I also didn't oersonally attack Andante ever. This dramatic response doesn'take sense, I never attacked Andante as a person.
I know, that probably wasn't the right word, I just hate when everyone starts ganging up on me, there's something I can't say here that's also pissing me off ughh I need to find someone I can talk to tbh. ok sorry, ignore the personal attack thing, we're starting over. what would you like to know?- Andante
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In post 205, RationalMadman wrote:
What's your read on Orctin and Rathe?In post 203, Andante wrote:what would you like to know?
I know both are voting me. That's not why I picked them. Primarily, they're picked as you haven't made super clear what your read on them is or why.
Off the top of my head, Rathe is getting scummier, like, I'm not looking at exact posts, but Rathe has been noticeably getting scummier. Both were just meh at the start, nothing significant from them- Andante
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LMAOOO imagine saying my initial gut reads on entrances don't add up... hey JV didn't I say your entrance sucked that other game? I literally said in the post I was 0/2 last time I did entrance reads, but I took a stab at it, then read all clasico's lines, and the tone felt scummyIn post 244, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Could you throw me some examplesIn post 241, RationalMadman wrote:why I believe she's Scum is because the reads she has don't add up at all in my opinion.- Andante
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In post 270, Clasko wrote:er it's alignment-based but I did briefly ISO-read through Andante's posts in the game that JV linked Rational to, and her analysis of people's entrances seems consistent.
@ Andante - you liked Ivy's entrance but you say in post 163 that you can't stand when people put in minimum effort - Ivy isn't putting enough in for me rn, thoughts?
Fam, I said I only commented on entrances, not how everyone was after the entrance.- Andante
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Why the heck would rational, as town push this strongly on the doc claim. "Doc would WANT to die at night not day" ok?? That was my plan, and I was also genuinely never going to out, but this ENTIRE game has been Rational pushing the fact I'm scum, and quite honestly, it's just super annoying. So I claimed, to direct your attention away from me, but instead you're just tunneling me harder, so whatever. You gain absolutely nothing when I flip doc, then if cop/tracker go tonight after you yeet me, VT's vs scum... sounds real fun to me. at least you ignore me here, make maf kill or roleblock me. maf literally can't leave me alone all game.- Andante
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In post 399, JacksonVirgo wrote:Are you assuming there is a roleblocker here
All I know is it isn't 2 goons, if you look at the setup, doc is only in 2 columns- Andante
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In post 422, RationalMadman wrote:she is not at all actung how she would as Doctor in this scenario. She isn't even insisting you all vote me
Why would I demand everyone vote you? Rathe/T3 are acting like textbook scum in this situation - Andante
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