Micro 1010: Divide and Conquer: Round 2 - Game Over!

[Dunnstral]

NM being in the group of 3 is an anomoly. Is it because the deep scum is in the pool of 6 and NM is the other scum, or because they want to miselim NM in the smaller group?

VOTE: Bingle

[Dunnstral]

I have reconsidered, and I think I am on now leaning towards voting from within the 6 player neighborhood now.

I think I have come to the conclusion that shooting in the 6p neighborhood is better even if we miss Day 1

If we hit the 6p mafia:
Day 1 - Town wins automatically
Day 2 - Town gains 2 confirmed town for Day 3

If we hit the 3p mafia
Day 1 - Town gains 1 Confirmed town for Day 2
Day 2 - Town gains nothing

There is just a much higher reward for hunting within the 6p Mafia

If we vote wrong the mafia kill likely lands in the group of 6, making it easier to figure out

I actually agree that getting out the 3-person hood mafia today makes the game harder than miseliming in the 6 person hood

[Dunnstral]

I have reconsidered, and I think I am on now leaning towards voting from within the 6 player neighborhood now.

I think I have come to the conclusion that shooting in the 6p neighborhood is better even if we miss Day 1

If we hit the 6p mafia:
Day 1 - Town wins automatically
Day 2 - Town gains 2 confirmed town for Day 3

If we hit the 3p mafia
Day 1 - Town gains 1 Confirmed town for Day 2
Day 2 - Town gains nothing

There is just a much higher reward for hunting within the 6p Mafia

If we vote wrong the mafia kill likely lands in the group of 6, making it easier to figure out

I actually agree that getting out the 3-person hood mafia today makes the game harder than miseliming in the 6 person hood

Going to try to not respond to every single one of these but this stance is absurd

Why?

[Dunnstral]

The reason I say that is because if we correctly eliminate in the 3 person pool today, the next 2 nightkills are going to be the other 2 in that pool

If we eliminate in the 6p pool today, and start from the 3p pool tomorrow, I think we have better odds, including if they take the 3p pool down to 2

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral
Vanderscamp
GuiltyLion
Hopkirk
Lukewarm
marcistar

I'm leaning town on Hopkirk
I want to lean town on Vanderscamp but I'm not there yet

VOTE: Lukewarm

[Dunnstral]

For context, I think you look kind of bad inside of the neighborhood

[Dunnstral]

Your interactions with Marci feel awkward, you feel like you're buddying up in there, and your pseudo-gambit was awkward

[Dunnstral]

I don't know what to think about 315-320 from Lukewarm, other than thinking that Luke had a lot to say about it

[Dunnstral]

I reread Vanderscamp, not feeling like voting there

I don't want to vote for Marci or Guiltylion either

So for me it's Luke or hopkirk in the 6

VOTE: Hopkirk

[Dunnstral]

I mean...'you' is Cakez, mostly.

The reminder is for everyone, because I don't want the content from the last page buried and forgotten.

do people here not read back? thats so sad :neutral:

Yeah. This is what the game looks like for everybody else:

[Dunnstral]

Holy shit, Dunn. How'd you get the extra three pages?

Are you doing 30 posts per page instead of 25?

That would still line up with 450 being a page top/previous page and would explain the missing 3

[Dunnstral]

[Dunnstral]

I reread Vanderscamp, not feeling like voting there

I don't want to vote for Marci or Guiltylion either

So for me it's Luke or hopkirk in the 6

VOTE: Hopkirk

Do you have anything else?

Yeah: I'm ready to proceed to an elimination

[Dunnstral]

Does anyone have a read on dunnstral? It's hard to sort with this little content.

@dunn - you've seen my last two scumgames from the town side and the scumside. You're scumreading me?

Why should I not be?

[Dunnstral]

I'm not reading the neighbourhood chat, sorry.

I mean, at this point it's pretty much the entire alive game in there

[Dunnstral]

Luke, can you go over why Bingle being scum makes Marci more likely?

[Dunnstral]

Luke, can you go over why Bingle being scum makes Marci more likely?

I could see a world where Bingle defended me so that I would stay in the game to keep defending Marci.

Spoiler:

279 -Early on in the day, he disagreed with both Not_Mafia and Norwee when they said that Marci seemed the same as she was in our last game, when he could have just as easily kind of deferred to their meta experience with her.

395 + 399 - Then he hard came to my defense when there was a growing suspicion on me.

So at the time, I felt like he disagreed with both of the first 2 big townie wagons, and that that would be dangerous for scum!bingle to do (part of my TR for him). At the start of the game we were talking about eliminating from the 6p pool, so scum had a 1 in 6 to auto lose Day 1. If Bingle derailed the first 2 big town wagons, then he made that 1 in 4. So he increased the odds of an auto lose....

Unless of course, Marci was his partner. That would mean that he quietly disagreed with the case on Marci, then hard defended her most vocal defender.

I still don't know if I believe that Bingle would put marci in the 6p pool in the first place, and I don't think that marci would want to be in the 6p pool knowing that her being eliminated Day 1 would be an auto lose. So she is still not high on my scum list, but there is partner equity between her and Bingle that I noticed.

Is it possible we're thinking about this wrong and Bingle wanted to be in the pool of 3 because he perceived it as harder?

[Dunnstral]

Because I feel like I should be obv town at this point. Like, maybe bad town, but obv town none the less.

Why?

[Dunnstral]

We need to reach some form of consensus

[Dunnstral]

has Dunn ever explained how he thought that it was me AND Bingle yesterday?

yes

[Dunnstral]

IMO the wishy-washyness I'm seeing from Marci right now feels like scum

VOTE: marcistar

[Dunnstral]

but this is just super lazy play if he is scum here. Do you all think he really just says he's "unsure" about Bingle (in my convo with him in the hood) and nothing more if he's buddies?

I do think in a vacuum, Dunn or Hopkirk would be most likely 6p scum with Bingle 3p scum by pool-spec, and I still think Hopkirk is locktown. But that's about the best point I would have for scum!Dunn, and I'm always gonna be more paranoid about the players that seem like they're explicitly trying to stay alive

im not really sure if dunnstrals scum but i want him to come carry or else ill keep worrying about him :-(


848 im so confused.. do u think he would do that when hes done it before.. wouldnt that be too obvious? :?

:? :? :? VOTE: vanderscamp
i think this is the one ill feel bestest about :? but im not 100% confident sadly

Your last post

[Dunnstral]

I still stand by day 1 Marci feeling real different from Day 1 Marci in the other game, but this does feel a bit like Marci after she lost her partner...

I really don't like that every single town and every single scum read she has wavered on.

And she does not appear to be solving. It kind of feels like she was not putting in the effort today because she wanted to slide through on all of the town reads she got day 1.

check my other town games, i just dont have motivation when im sused because its not fun usually its me getting tunnel sused when i do that tho.

My issue, is that you have been giving this vibe since the very start of Day 2, but you were not being sussed until like the last 24 hours

This is the truth, and it was mostly just me

[Dunnstral]

If it is not marci then I don't really know