Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

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Hello everyone!

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Egix and choof giving good vibes.

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Andnte'sread on Ivy feels as forced as putting a squre peg into a round hole.
Umlaut town.

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There has barely been anything AI so far

you should just do some crazy shit so that we can also read you better and not have akwward andante reads

Got it
Choof and Bugspray are both Locktown for day 1, Choof's general tone and mindset is obvtown, and Bugspray has pushed back against everything I would have had I been awake.
Adante looks like a wrong towny rather than a scum
Umlaut is null
Anya is mildyl lean scum, as she isn't really contributing, and Osuka is mildly more leaning scum for being unhelpful.
No one else has left enoughj of an impression
VOTE: Osuka

The later additions to this readlist almost feel made to appease. And the "Andante looks like a wrong towny" is newbscum deflection. VOTE: Ivyeo

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I don't see a scum gerain just openly saying this.

I think Andante is town based on the general meta vibes.

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I don't see a scum gerain just openly saying this.

I think Andante is town based on the general meta vibes.

What do you tr me for? pocket request rejected.

You seem less confident and more argumentative and that I think aligns with town you.

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T3, I hope you know fully well I'm not gonna blindly TR you cause you outed a TR on me...

My plan is to read.

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lemons hardcore townposting, conftown
hem can be townish for now

Explain? I hve hem as lean tow n and am not sure about lemons.

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okay SO searching T3's vast ISO of 8 posts for reads and/or opinions we find:

Spoiler: intrepid sleuthing

Egix and choof giving good vibes.

egix96

and

choof

(replaced by

humaneatingmonkey

) - townlean

Andnte'sread on Ivy feels as forced as putting a squre peg into a round hole.
Umlaut town.

andante

- scumlean (?)

umlaut

- town

The later additions to this readlist almost feel made to appease. And the "Andante looks like a wrong towny" is newbscum deflection. VOTE: Ivyeo

Ivyeo

(who has been on the site for 6 months longer than T3) - newbscum

I don't see a scum gerain just openly saying this.

I think Andante is town based on the general meta vibes.

gerain

- townlean (?)

andante again

- town now "based on the general meta vibes" and also because

You seem less confident and more argumentative and that I think aligns with town you.

hm.

and finally:

lemons hardcore townposting, conftown
hem can be townish for now

Explain? I hve hem as lean tow n and am not sure about lemons.

monkey

(post-replacement) - still townlean

lemons

- null

phew! what a journey. organizing this into a reads list, we get:

Umlaut

- town

Andante

- townlean

geraintm

- townlean

Egix96

- townlean

humaneatingmonkey

- townlean

InsidiousLemons

- null

Ivyeo

- scum

bugspray

- unspecified

Anya

- unspecified

osuka

- unspecified

Dunnstral

- unspecified

@T3 do you agree with the list as it appears here? have any of your reads changed or become clearer since you first made them? please interact with this game or any of the players this is really sad

Yes, I do. Dunn hasn't done anything, null. osuka and bugspray idk, Anya scumlean.

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boxxy and Egix not sure

VOTE: monkeyeater dislike this scurrier more though

Why?

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For gerain I think just wait and see what happens.

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Dunnstral lean town. There's not much coming from it but the posts about gerain are good.

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That moment when I have less posts than the mod.

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Umlaut was towny but kind of dropped off. Monkey is a strong townread, I liked the lemons analysis.

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geraintm soesn't seem to care about his appearence at all. VFP is very town. VOTE: osuka

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UNVOTE: osuka
nvm osuka hs redeemed himself.
Yes I do towread gerains consciouslack of effort.

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UNVOTE: osuka
nvm osuka hs redeemed himself.
Yes I do towread gerains consciouslack of effort.

can you please, for the love of fucking god or whatever other deity you believe in, and for ONCE in your life, explain WHY you think something? it's impossible to play a game with someone who only posts completely shallow one-liners that have no degree of nuance whatsoever

I initialy scumread you for being here but not doing much. I can see you posting but there aren't actual reads coming out. Then as soon as I voted you started doong stuff and when I read deeper into you it felt townier.

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Not sure about Ivy. I scumread Anya. First there was Anya's vote on bugspray and there was also the "I don't remember probably the tone" which seemed like scum trying to justify a weak read.

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I don't scumread bugspray but I also didn't like Anya's vote. I think a town/scumflip would give us more info. VOTE: bug

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bugspray is scum. They made a similar defenseI think in electocollege mafia when they were scum.

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no one said the cannister was wolf for not being here last night though feels like an excuse to give an excuse

Agreed.
I looked back on electocollege mafia and bugspray scumslipped then pretended it was a typo

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osuka, claim?

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Nice. I got my first Pfizer shot 2 days ago.

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I don't particularly buy this claim but it will be resolved later. VOTE: bugspray if I'm not already.

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I think Egix is town forthe response. For me what hem said was more of a townslip.

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VOTE: Lemons
Yes.

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We're voting lemons.
We're going to vote scum.

The end.

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could the scum team actually be bugs-osuka-t3 lol what a world

You really think I would have bussed my motion detector for half the game?
lol this is scum

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catching up.

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I think osuka and lemons are both town.

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I don't scumread bugspray but I also didn't like Anya's vote. I think a town/scumflip would give us more info. VOTE: bug

I don't think I properly appreciated what a weird post+vote this was until gerain quoted it. But it's a really weird post+vote! Like, if you were asked to fill in the blank here:

• I don't scumread bugspray
  
• I don't like Anya's vote for bugspray
  
• So I will vote for ______

how do you ever fill that blank with "bugspray"?

I don't know what to make of this, right now I'm filing it in "weird move for town but also a weird move for scum," but I'd like it if T3 could comment on just what was going on in their head here.

People on the wagon whose votes i am not a fan of

Ivy's - their post 1028 is calling for an elimiantion between Dunn, Lemons and Me
759 was a defence of Bugspray
227 had bugspray as locktown

just makes me antsy

Okay, it might be surprising but what's the scum motivation? Why would scum!Ivy who is calling for an elimination between Dunn, Lemons and you suddenly flip around and agree to vote their buddy bugspray? It seems more like a towntell to me, I can see scum!Ivy voting Bugs if she's trying to keep up appearances but her progression doesn't match that at all.

bugspray was in my nulls early on and I didn't like the other wagons.

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I think osuka and lemons are both town.

What changed your mind about Lemons?

Good wallposts.

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i do get it, or at least i get what you're going for. i believe that you didn't mix up rolestopper and roleblocker at the time of your claim, sure. what i'm saying is that i think you forgot the specific function of your night action

at the time that you outed your target

, because you had a narrative in mind that you wanted to construct -- one which incriminates hem, and which implicates me when you flip scum. convenient.

when you send in your night action, you specifically target

one person

, and yes i do find it kind of hard to believe that you would forget who that one specific person was. i think hem was what slipped out because he was on your mind, because even though he wasn't your "target",

your action was more about harming hem than protecting me.

i think town!osuka would have been markedly less likely to make this mistake.

there is never going to be a way to prove conclusively whether you would or would not have made this mistake as town. but as i've said, flipping your slot is going to give us a lot of information either way. if you flip red, great. and even if you flip green, that

still

gives us a solid lead on hem and provides us with a frame of reference for what other PRs are more or less likely to coexist in the same game.

and lastly, why does it even have to be hem who shot at me? if the aim is simply to incriminate you and kill two birds with one stone, wouldn't

any

scum seize the same opportunity?

I actually think Lemons is on to something. It seems like Osuka is caught in a contradiction here.

• He first says he "rolestopped HEM" but let's assume he really did mean to say he rolestopped Lemons.
  
• Then he says the fact that there was no kill incriminates HEM, to the point where he
  instantly
  regarded HEM as caught scum this morning and cited his action as the reason, as if it were so conclusive that no more explanation need be given
  
• And says "I rolestopped [Lemons] so that HEM couldn't kill [them]"
  
• But then he says "i didnt do it to incriminate hem. the fact that there was _no_ kill at all is what incriminates him, and that's just a consequence of me having protected [Lemons] because i thought [they] could be a target."

I can't formulate a coherent state of mind for a town!Osuka to have had last night going into the start of this day, where all of these statements can be genuine. If Osuka rolestopped Lemons out of a belief they were the likely kill choice for

any

scumteam, then he should have expected to stop a kill and should not think it implicates HEM specifically. He absolutely should not think that "at first" as he says in 1350 that he did. Conversely, if Osuka rolestopped Lemons specifically because he thought

HEM

would target them, and also thought HEM was scum, he should know that's what he did and shouldn't be making a post like 1350 in the first place, where he tries to argue Lemons was a justified rolestop regardless of the team.

I think the error of saying "I rolestopped HEM" reveals that Osuka's mind was more on HEM than it is on Lemons, and so the explanation that he did not initially set out to implicate HEM is phony.

Oh!
That makes senae. VOTE: osuka

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Not everyone is awake at 5:15 am but still get over here coooooooook please thank you

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Time zones: exist
It's 5:26 for me.

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ikr

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/j

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Isn't VFP a british impostor !

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Dunnstral was one of the original bugspray pushers and thescum prs seems pretty powerful so I think there's only 1 scum left.

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'em... hmmmm. h

em

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VOTE: vee ef pee

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I though vfp softed motion detector there lol

Anyways, I am humaneatingmonkeys mason partner. I didn't crumb it but he did.

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There might be 2 scum left but probably not 3. VFP says it in such a way that implies he knows that even limming both of us will still have a final 5.

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I am not mason. VFP had a very towny reaction and so did hem.

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Final VC, Day Two

humaneatingmonkey (2): osuka, VFP
InsidiousLemons (1): Ivyeo
T3 (1): Egix96
VFP (1): Dunnstral

osuka (6) [HAMMER]: InsidiousLemons, Anya, Ivyeo, Umlaut, T3, humaneatingmonkey

With 11 alive it takes 6 to flip.

VFP is town.
Dunnstral is town.
LemonsI think was a townread from earlier I don't remember their play this game at all LOL.
Anya is town.
Also @MOD Ivyeo is counted twice in the eod votecount.
Umlaut was town.
hem is town.

Scum is between Ivy or Egix.

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VOTE: egix96

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I am not mason. VFP had a very towny reaction and so did hem.

I don't buy it.
It looks like you wanted to save you're buddy, realised you're a particular player I know would crumb here and had to re call it.

Why would I claim if I'm scum with hem? If you didn't realize and hem gets limmed and is scum then that implicates me.

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I think the maso partner should reveal themselves.

I hardclaim not mason.


VFP - not mason
T3 -not mason

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VOTE: human

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So we do massclaim?

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Sure, thanks.
I'm vt.
Egix might be last scum. Ivy being mason cuts down my poe to just Egix.

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Sure, thanks.
I'm vt.
Egix might be last scum. Ivy being mason cuts down my poe to just Egix.

Can you explain your poe?

I townread everyone else to some degree.

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Dunn was an early bugspray pushed and gerain hammered.

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bold of you to call 804 a push. it's true he never unvoted, but is that your only reason?

also gerain hammered after egix had already declared intent (1122). i really don't think that clears him at all. again, is this your only reason?

it's hard for me to believe that there's scum motivation behind townreading 2 of the most likely lims when there's likely only one scum left anyway, but your reasoning feels really arbitrary

Those are pretty much my only reason. I don't scumead egix otherthan that.

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....???

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YES I SURVIVED TO ENDGAME AND WON AS TOWN IN A GAME WHERE THE SCUM DIDN'T SLIP IN THEIR 3rd POST AND THEN FOR IT TO TAKE 3 DAS FOR ANYONE TO NOTICE
gg lol, thanksfor modding.

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plus, what was the issue and why did andante replace out because of it?

I think she site replaced out, I guess life stuff.

I did nothing except nod sheepishly at every wagon the entire game.

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It's like before 5 am in the us.
Probably sleeping.

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*falls on dolphin sword*

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Time zones: exist
Me: no.

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flip scum pls

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A perfect game indeed.
Thanks for modding.