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god i want that pizza

VOTE: RLotus

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im so hungry i really want that pizza

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i'm almost 33 and i'm willing to die from cheese overdose

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god i want that pizza

VOTE: RLotus

im so hungry i really want that pizza

I'm nearly 30 that cheese would put me dead in the ground

i'm almost 33 and i'm willing to die from cheese overdose

My stomach hurts right now but I still want that pizza

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who is mon?

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my gut is giving me next to nothing so far so that's a bummer, probably distracted by the pizza

will try a reread after coffee

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is there something you want addressed, noraa? i'm kind of slowly getting into the game, nothing's standing out to me so far.

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i wouldn't meta me everytime i get back into mafia i think i play a little different

meta mostly sucks anyway

VOTE: Italiano

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you're welcome to attempt to meta me from the hundreds of games i've played but i think my playstyle keeps evolving and changing so i don't know that it's helpful

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if you're aware of meta it's easy to play against it

i like to play capriciously because it's harder to meta and because it's more fun

if you want my completed games from my recent return to mafia i can give them to you

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i mean you could choose to play excited as scum one game without a perceived strong scum team or you could choose to play less excited as town one game to try and get people off of your meta

since i can't tell if you being excited is because you are town or because you know your meta and are playing it up as scum it's not really helpful

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i wouldn't meta me everytime i get back into mafia i think i play a little different

meta mostly sucks anyway

VOTE: Italiano

You want somethin’?

to vote you mostly

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Should I vote two more times?

Is that your power? No wait don’t answer that.

why did you even post this

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VOTE: gamma emerald

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FENRIR's
super special wolfy town block go

noraa
johnyfarrar
STD

awoo!

who else wants to join?

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not a strong read but

game is kind of languishing

scum just complain about the gamestate 169
town do something about it 202

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i just want to add people to my wolfy town bloc

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Either fenny is scum or he has a lot of stuff going on in his head(about this game) which leads to me getting the impression that he's doing/thinking a lot

lol neither is true

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usually my gut's like "this person is scum" and i just roll with that until i get enough information to make a more informed read but this game that's not happening and i don't feel like there's enough content to make an informed read on slots like Max and Dunn and Rlotus

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i think the post that originally triggered me as scummy actually comes from town when i think about it more so i'm kind of null, townlean at the moment

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i was giving examples, not making an exhaustive list

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@Save the Dragons: what do you think about Dunnstral’s vote on you? Is it common? Uncommon?

it seems like a RVS vote i didn't see any reasoning

i dunno what you mean by common or uncommon

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my experience with Dunn in completed games is one, he was town and barely showed up unless you attacked him

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my experience with Dunn in completed games is one, he was town and barely showed up unless you attacked him

So then you’d say that being lucky is nai?

i'd say i don't have enough data

though my other game with dunn just ended and he was a traitor and was less lurky.

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andres are you caught up? you seem to only post when noraa pings you

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Fenrir, have you changed your mind on Italiano? You were voting them earlier toDay. What do you think of my last post? Spoilering for length.

i think i'm null on the slot. i agree with some of what you're saying but disagree with other parts. Like the "we're partners and you coached me" post is scummy, sure, but "What's your case against me" pings me for an entirely different reason and the parroting point makes no sense to me.

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There's scum is Lukewarm, Nora, IVD, and Johny.

why

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Fenrir, have you changed your mind on Italiano? You were voting them earlier toDay. What do you think of my last post? Spoilering for length.

i think i'm null on the slot. i agree with some of what you're saying but disagree with other parts. Like the "we're partners and you coached me" post is scummy, sure, but "What's your case against me" pings me for an entirely different reason and the parroting point makes no sense to me.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. He's copying her verbiage subconsciously because he wants to be TRed by her.

i hate this post on so many levels

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ok not really but i still don't think that's the case

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I tend to care more about games when I’m Town

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it might if i cared about meta

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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do you have any thoughts based on those slots based on content

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blaze it

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Happy 33rd, drgn. I got you this wagon

thank you! how did you know i like wagons?

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VOTE: Rlotus

i don't know if scum wagon quite that fast, i'm trying to find fault with the wagon but i tr it

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What do you think about Johnny?

i think town i think town tries harder than scum and it looks like he's been trying based on his re-read of the thread in an earlier post.

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italiano, what's your read on lotus

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I worry the hammer might be too obvious coming from scum but I could be wrong

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i guess i'm confused either way about fmft's play

VOTE: free money free tea e-2

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Can we all just have our own reads or something?

Dunnstral - talking more than usual could be scum for it
VFP - talking less than usual could be scum for it
MaxTheFox - not sure where i stand here
JohnnyFarrar - lean town
Free Money Free Tea

UC Voyager

- i've 180d i think i lean scum here
ItalianoVD - lean town
Noraa - town
Save The Dragons - that's me!
ssbm_Kyouko - town
Andresvmb - lean town
Gamma Emerald - lean scum but mostly just gut

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Dunnstral - talking more than usual could be scum for it

Talk about this one for me?

i dunno i don't trust meta i actually probably lean town on the slot tbh should have mentioned that

but in one game i played with him he was town and only showed up when he was attacked

in another game he was traitor and came out D2 as a strong poster

he's kind of in the middle here

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GHOST

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i think he's talking more than he was in the town game i played with him

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i think he's talking more than he was in the town game i played with him

Pls link that game

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=86088

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why

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did FMFT talk about gamma's role because gamma is scum with him

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FMFT probably outed a partner’s result for them

it feels more likely that FMFT (perhaps unintentionally) screwed you over

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in my head canon FMFT just went for it

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how so

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I want to add that you feel pretty partnery with FMFT right now, both based on their claim, your play around it, and both of your plays around these wagons

dunnstral agrees with me (at least about the partners part. i don't know if FMFT went YOLO POSTING SCUMBUDDY'S ROLE or if he talked about it with you)

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we're starting to go off the rails with what ifs but if I think he blurted informed without consulting you why do you think you can convince me you could have had any sway on what he was doing after

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there's not even a guarantee he wasn't lying about there being a follower but it could be his third scumbuddy

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And I had posted these within that span of 12 hours. So there absolutely was time to get FMFT to reconsider if I were scum.

again i don't think it's a given that you are able to convince/control a player like FMFT

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i mean you also later said this

Yeah I don’t think FMFT is scum atp
This radio silence makes no sense otherwise

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in my head canon FMFT just went for it

Looking back I honestly think this contradicts the events in-thread

Also I activated my informed ability and learned 2 things. The first thing is that there is another player with the activated informed ability in the setup. The second thing I don't know if I want to share right now.

I learned that x is a negative utility, y. I also learned that someone is role a. I knoe x y and a but not alignment of either.

It should be fine to claim. I was informed that part of gamma emeralds role is cop enabler. I was also infomed there is some role a in the setup but not the player or alignment. A is an unflippedrole.

Does this look like he “just went for it”?

kinda yeah

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i don't think that i am

VOTE: gamma

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i don't know why you don't seem to get if FMFT is crazy or noob scum or just a rogue soul that you maybe couldn't talk him down regardless of whether you wanted to or not

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i don't see why he wouldn't have slow rolled like that? he's trying to build up town cred by offering information but he's pretending it'll be bad for scum to know

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i'm presenting options my dude i'm not trying to claim full knowledge of what happened

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like i legit don't see how him slow rolling like that makes him any less of anything really if he just ignored you

you could have encouraged it at the time for all i know

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no

hence why i think my theory of him going rogue and spilling state secrets is more likely

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am i wrong? was he not ignoring you?

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just having fun is all

why is kyouko conftown

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i mean i was kind of hoping you'd fall for it but didn't expect you to = having fun mostly

i'd have to look at it closely but it could be theatre

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aw man you're going to make me read what's happened aren't you

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i don't think VFP is scum here but i'll keep looking just in case

what's the case against VFP

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VOTE: gamma

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scum is probably {max, gamma} imo.

d1 my gut said gamma was scum, d2 was FMFT's day to out information he shouldn't have had, d3 i don't think my conversation with gamma makes me think he's any less of scum.

not sure about max but something pings me about "I stand by my case" 1171. i have a lot of trs on most everyone else.

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i'm just here to remind everyone that gamma is scum and i really want this fucking pizza still

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there's a tinfoil theory that Andres's hammer was calculated and not accidental at all

but i'm more confident in gamma

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i think it's more likely andres is scum and or town and accidentally hammered

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that seems like a mistake!

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It was a joke

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I'm not voting Gamma today ftr

was there a reason for this

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There is at least one scum between Gamma and STD.

go on

bus your partner

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could it be

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can you explain a little more kyouko

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What’s going on in 1233 1235 & 1236

pretty self explanatory

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so it's either {gamma, kyouko} or {andres, ???} interesting

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i'm still leaning gamma but i want to at least hear from kyouko

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whew that's a lot of posts there buddy

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i'm pretty sure it's {gamma, kyouko} but on the off chance i want to at least hear from kyouko

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What’s going on in 1233 1235 & 1236

pretty self explanatory

Umm its actually not self explanatory, otherwise I wouldn’t have asked, lol. He said “it’s not in thread yet” and you asked “could it be”. On no levels is that self explanatory.

"it's not in the thread"

"could it be in the thread please?"

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i guess i see that now

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what the hell

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what is your role

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it's insane but why claim something so insane

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i like being careful

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so who did you jailkeep

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this makes no sense

VOTE: gamma

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how come you are even on n3 i don't get that

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how come you didn't jailkeep anyone

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oh i didn't read that part of rlotus's role until now

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how does this affect your read of kyouko as conftown

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but i want gamma :<

VOTE: ssbm_kyouko

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Fuck ass balls shit cock fuck cucumber shit butt mother of tits mother sucker picklemuffin fuck ass boobies wham shit taco lemon butter mother

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it's hard for me to fuckin care about a game that town decided to fuckin throw for no fuckin reason if we lose it's not my fault it's kyouko's fault so i'm feeling absolved of responsibility here

will try to look at this with fresh eyes and mindset tomorrow

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wtf

what game have you been watching max

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i was more passive in the beginning but d3 i came out pretty strong in favor of killing gamma so i'm not really sure what you're talking about

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we're fucked this game scum is laughing their ass off

i thought i could get over it with a round of sleep but i don't think so this game's just borked

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i don't know why but 1426 pings me but i don't know anymore

is gamma town? i'm not so sure he's scum but i want to reread and see if i can rekindle my conviction

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it ain't me bro

i wanted gamma first because i trusted my read. i'm not sure what to think now that we've wasted time on a kyouko lim. i'm getting paranoid about who the scum could be at this point.

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i think gamma is town at this point

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{max, italiano} or {max, andres} but i can't figure out which

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what do you want in particular

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FMFT didn't get that information about gamma out of nowhere ugh it could be gamma

i'm not sure what you want me to answer about that first quote

i admit i was resisting a kyouko elimination strictly in favor of a gamma one. the reasoning was because i thought gamma and kyouko were scum together so it wouldn't matter the order we did them in. with kyouko not being scum and the game not being solved, it's a little trickier.

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I could have coaxed a vote out of you or Italiano onto Gamma with NO PROBLEM whatsoever instead of bothering with this crap. As if I would want this to last much longer as Scum.

i don't know that this is true anymore

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same bro

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i think it's most likely one of max and gamma, possibility of theatre here where they vote each other to try and clear the other? is that weird and paranoid or realistic

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if i were scum and max were town she would be dead by now

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now i'm worried about {gamma, andres}

god my head's all over the place here

i'm going to give it another think before i do anything

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well

this is interesting

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if i were scum and gamma were town i'd hammer gamma just going to point that out

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i'll take a look at both and vote sometime soon after reminding myself that kyouko ruined the game so i shouldn't treat it like failure if i fuck up

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you fucks don't want me as the town savior lmao i'll do my best

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sorry guys i've been agonizing over this for a while but i'll vote soon

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VOTE: gamma

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gamma should have died yesterday

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bummer oh well

still convinced kyouko lost this for us so shrug. scum did a good job too

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we could have but scum did a good job convincing me they weren't scum so shrug

i had my doubts but in the end i couldn't get over the possibility gamma was scum and italiano got into my head

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Shocked that Gamma died today after all that transpired