mystery box of silver 12 PBP MOD (over n out)

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lets have some ideas

• each potion gets a list of at least 3 plants as ingredience
  
• hibiscus
  
• give things that sort of suggest an internal logic to the ingredients (e.g. reuse hibiscus) but like it just doesnt make sense
  
• players are explicitly allowed to claim their ingredients
  
• one player doesn't have a potion

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• each player has two health points and dies when they go to zero. gonna say people don't get notified when they lose a health point

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action that dealt damage to them.

ingredients: thorn of rose; concentrated carrot oil; barley stem; water

potion of Gulp:

at night, you may drink this potion.

ingredients: hibiscus, lemon extract, soybean stem, soy lecithin, coconut milk

potion of Drink More Potions:

at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients: ground cacao, pistachio shell, rose thorn, vanilla extract, assorted roots

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potion of Clonk:

at night, you may throw this potion at another player to deal 1 HP of damage.

ingredients: extracted arsenic; tulip petal; daisy petal; daisy stem; water; beet purée

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all actions emerge from potions. whenever a player takes an action, they lose the potion that allowed them to take the action (though the potion may be received by another player). the only technical exception to this is that mafia start the game with information; they did not need to drink any potions to receive it. players may only use a potion at night, though the potion may have effects at other times.

potion of charisma:

at night, you may drink this potion; during the next day, you will have Increased Charisma. any player who disagrees with a statement you make while having Increased Charisma will take 1 HP of damage once the day is over. to "disagree" in this case is to speak in opposition to a claim that you have made, while obviously addressing the statement to you (determined at mod discretion). each player may take one damage at most; i will publicize the effects of this potion on you at the beginning of the relevant day.

ingredients: hop drink; powdered iron; hyacinth; toad urine

potion of true sight:

at night, you may drink this potion and then Truly Look at another player. if that player is town AND started the night without any potions, you will receive Good Vibes from them; otherwise, you'll receive Bad Vibes.

ingredients: concentrated carrot oil; coconut milk; brussel sprouts; cheeto dust

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: powdered iron; coconut milk; chickpeas; freon

potion of Neutralize:

at night, you may pour this potion on another player's feet; it will have a chemical reaction to their shoes, creating a gas that neutralizes any potions they attempt to use that night.

ingredients: motor oil; hibiscus; any vegetable (doesn't matter)

potion of Travelling Potion:

at night, you may hold this potion in an open hand out your window. it will flutter away and be given to a player of your choice.

ingredients: dinosaur urine; witch spit; hibiscus; daisy stem; chickpeas; essence of foreceps; one french fry; cheeto dust; concentrated carrot oil

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town:

• clonk; Harmography; true sight; gulp; drink more potions
  
• Harmography; Harmography; Pain; Pain
  
• Pain, Pain
  
• Travelling Potion
  
• Gulp
  
• Pain
  
• no potions

mafia:

• pain; pain; clonk; drink more potions
  
• clonk; pain; neutralize; neutralize; charisma

additionally:

• they are informed of the distribution of potion counts among townies: 5/4/2/1/1/1/0
  
• they are informed that three people have the potion of harmography, including 5 & 4
  
• they are allowed to choose which player receives which set of potions

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this setup sucks

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town:

• clonk; Harmography; True Speech and Become Drunk; Harmography; drink more potions
  
• gulp; true sight; Pain; Pain
  
• Pain, Pain
  
• Gulp, Gulp
  
• Travelling Potion
  
• Pain
  
• no potions

mafia:

• pain; pain; clonk; drink more potions
  
• clonk; pain; neutralize; neutralize; charisma

additionally:

• they are informed of the distribution of potion counts among townies: 5/4/2/2/1/1/0
  
• they are informed that there exist two Potions of Harmography and one potion of true sight (and what those are), distributed between 5 & 4
  
• at the end of day 1, mafia distribute their inventory of potions between the two members as they wish

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Spoiler: appendix

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action that dealt damage to them.

ingredients: thorn of rose; concentrated carrot oil; barley stem; water

potion of Gulp:

at night, you may drink this potion.

ingredients: hibiscus, lemon extract, soybean stem, soy lecithin, coconut milk

potion of Drink More Potions:

at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients: ground cacao, pistachio shell, rose thorn, vanilla extract, assorted roots

potion of Clonk:

at night, you may throw this potion at another player to deal 1 HP of damage.

ingredients: extracted arsenic; tulip petal; daisy petal; daisy stem; water; beet purée

potion of True Speech and Become Drunk:

at night, you may drink this potion and Truthfully inform another player of your alignment (a lá friendly neighbor). shortly after that happens, you'll become drunk (unrelated) and exist comfortably and intoxicatedly at your home until morning. unless, like, something happens i guess.

ingredients: hops, fire, oven-roasted walnuts, oven-roasted almonds, oven-roasted pecans, electric

potion of charisma:

at night, you may drink this potion; during the next day, you will have Increased Charisma. any player who disagrees with a statement you make while having Increased Charisma will take 1 HP of damage once the day is over. to "disagree" in this case is to speak in opposition to a claim that you have made, while obviously addressing the statement to you (determined at mod discretion). each player may take one damage at most; i will publicize the effects of this potion on you at the beginning of the relevant day. additionally, the burst of charisma you receive while drinking this potion allows you to drink another potion for the night.

ingredients: hop drink; powdered iron; hyacinth; toad urine

potion of true sight:

at night, you may drink this potion and then Truly Look at another player. if that player is town AND started the night without any potions, you will receive Good Vibes from them; otherwise, you'll receive Bad Vibes.

ingredients: concentrated carrot oil; coconut milk; brussel sprouts; cheeto dust

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: powdered iron; coconut milk; chickpeas; freon

potion of Neutralize:

at night, you may pour this potion on another player's feet; it will have a chemical reaction to their shoes, creating a gas that neutralizes any potions they attempt to use that night.

ingredients: motor oil; hibiscus; any vegetable (doesn't matter)

potion of Travelling Potion:

at night, you may hold this potion in an open hand out your window. it will flutter away and be given to a player of your choice.

ingredients: dinosaur urine; witch spit; hibiscus; daisy stem; chickpeas; essence of foreceps; one french fry; cheeto dust; concentrated carrot oil

• players have 2 HP, and die when their HP goes to 0. nobody knows what their HP is other than that it starts at 2
  
• all actions emerge from potions. whenever a player takes an action, they lose the potion that allowed them to take the action (though the potion may be received by another player). the only exceptions to this are that mafia have a factional inventory of potions, and choose the distribution of potions between the members at the end of day 1; also, they have some amount of factional information and daytalk. players may only use a potion at night, though the potion may have effects at other times. there is not a factional nightkill.
  
• players are explicitly allowed to claim their ingredients

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errata: maybe this current setup does not suck

thinkin that i should change the ingredients of duplicate potions (not very complicatedly, probably reuse a bunch of things as i have been doing). ideally there's like snags in that process e.g. sometimes people have the same ingredients

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hi

one potion per night by default: correct, ought to put that in the rules

on night 0, i will tell mafia about these two potion inventories (pain pain clonk DMP & clonk pain neutralize neutralize charisma) and then the two of them choose which person gets which inventory. this is something i've done in the past. hmm, it sort of contradictory to the statements abt actions only happening via potion - maybe i'll just tell everybody that it's happening bc its not that big a deal

i wrote in post 0 that the logic of the ingredients is intended to pull against any obvious logic - i would hope to have pain potions be almost completely different from each other, and almost completely different from clonk potions. except also maybe one pain potion from town is identical to one that a mafia member has. something like that. the thing you quoted, i was just noting to myself that i have to conjure up more ingredients for each duplicate potion

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i think theyre fun. and yeah all the mystery box setups have had a large element of noise, this kind of allows it to exist in every role

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anyway, as far as balance i think the big considerations are the small grab bag of invest power (2 shots of kind-of-watcher, 1 shot of friendly neighbor, 1 super conditional cop) and relatively democratized kill power (so like town has about half of the nightkill abilities). those two things are kind of in conflict, like maybe the friendly neighbor gets Pained to death right as they're using their stuff

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mm, that was the motivation for mafia self-selecting their potion inventories - they give their stronger player the one with DMP (dave matthews potions) and if their stronger player gets executed D1, well i think that scumteam would lose a convincingly large portion of the time without my help (moreover i think games where one of the mafia really really has to stay alive are interestingㅡi think white flag setups encourage teamwork in an appreciable way). if that bothers you though, i'd be fine having the potion distribution get decided at the start of night 1 (also entertaining the idea that mafia just get this set of 9 potions and are free to distribute them however they choose, which is even more of a boon when one of them dies d1)

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just taking note separately: thinking that people flip with alignment and # of potions, though i won't say what the potions were

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will think abt balance in the morning but i just remembered the name of the game is "plant-based potions" and i seem to have jettisoned that idea from my mind as i was making some of the ingredients. i still plan to proceed emphatically with the same game title. does that like make the game bastard? lol? i'll just be like "yup those are all plants. i dont know what to tell you"

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Is there a way we can make the potionless-town-checker less powerful in lategame to counteract the weakness of mafia in lategame once they lose/use their killing power?

just to note, i think i've sold myself on free-potion-distribution-at-end-of-day-1. also, i think i want charisma to give you another potion for free because it just wouldn't ever get used i think (it's debatable whether it's even a good thing for mafia to use really). also, i think i am interested in informing mafia about true sight & how it belongs to either 5 or 4.

the big worrisome night for true sight potion i think is n2, since in theory they can clear up to 4 people just blindfiring. yeah that's kind of a high number actually, i hadnt thought about it that much. i think i'll give the person with the gulp potion, another gulp potion. i'm not really worried about clears on night 3, by that time there's a lot of room for people to die in a way that makes it impossible, and it's also always elo at that point so clears aren't extraordinarily powerful. also keep in mind that travelling potion can make its way to one of those unpotioned individuals & make the neapotion not work on them

to recap (updating post 5):

• mafia distributes their potions freely eod1 (this will be made clear publically)
  
• charisma allows another potion to be drunk
  
• mafia informed of potion of true sight
  
• Gulp townie -> Gulp, Gulp

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feel free to come up with extra ingredients at your leisure btw, i'm sure there's entire categories of plant that you'd know about that i have just been totally missing

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Ok well i will be using every last one of these

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htank you

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Spoiler:

potion of Clonk:

at night, you may throw this potion at another player to deal 1 HP of damage.

ingredients: extracted arsenic; tulip petal; daisy petal; daisy stem; water; beet purée

potion of Clonk:

at night, you may throw this potion at another player to deal 1 HP of damage.

ingredients: corn silk; ginger root; nightshade; water

potion of Clonk:

at night, you may throw this potion at another player to deal 1 HP of damage.

ingredients: ghost pepper seeds; wormwood; worm; wood; poison

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action that dealt damage to them.

ingredients: thorn of rose; concentrated carrot oil; barley stem; water

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action that dealt damage to them.

ingredients: nightshade; seeds of sunflower; beet seeds; peanut

potion of True Speech and Become Drunk:

at night, you may drink this potion and Truthfully inform another player of your alignment (a lá friendly neighbor). shortly after that happens, you'll become drunk (unrelated) and exist comfortably and intoxicatedly at your home until morning. unless, like, something happens i guess.

ingredients: hops, fire, oven-roasted walnuts, oven-roasted almonds, oven-roasted pecans, electric

potion of Drink More Potions:

at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients: ground cacao, pistachio shell, rose thorn, vanilla extract, assorted roots

potion of Drink More Potions:

at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients: tomato juice; tomato extract; diced tomato; hedge clippings from the levens hall topiary garden

potion of Gulp:

at night, you may drink this potion.

ingredients: hibiscus, lemon extract, soybean stem, soy lecithin, coconut milk

potion of Gulp:

at night, you may drink this potion.

ingredients: pomelo; hibiscus; wood; poison; daisy stem; moonflower

potion of Gulp:

at night, you may drink this potion.

ingredients: monkshood; bark of magnolia; bark of acacia; poison; hibiscus; grapefruit rind OR just some grapes

potion of true sight:

at night, you may drink this potion and then Truly Look at another player. if that player is town AND started the night without any potions, you will receive Good Vibes from them; otherwise, you'll receive Bad Vibes.

ingredients: concentrated carrot oil; coconut milk; brussel sprouts; cheeto dust

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: powdered iron; coconut milk; chickpeas; freon

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: tomato powder; tomato; wet tomato; small tomato; pink peppercorn

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: hibiscus; water; poison

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: peeled grapes; seedless peeled grapes; celery stalks; a gun; pineapple frond (left out on the counter for 3 days first)

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: seeds of cucumber; hibiscus; ginger root; daisy stem; garbanzo beans

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: sneart; azalea petals; fluffy floopflower; tomato; water

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: silicon; silicate; monkshood; nightshade; bell pepper

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night.

ingredients: suburban leaf; cuke water; lilypad; horrible juice; bagel

potion of Travelling Potion:

at night, you may hold this potion in an open hand out your window. it will flutter away and be given to a player of your choice.

ingredients: dinosaur urine; witch spit; hibiscus; daisy stem; chickpeas; essence of foreceps; one french fry; cheeto dust; concentrated carrot oil

potion of Neutralize:

at night, you may pour this potion on another player's feet; it will have a chemical reaction to their shoes, creating a gas that neutralizes any potions they attempt to use that night.

ingredients: motor oil; hibiscus; any vegetable (doesn't matter)

potion of Neutralize:

at night, you may pour this potion on another player's feet; it will have a chemical reaction to their shoes, creating a gas that neutralizes any potions they attempt to use that night.

ingredients: sunflower seeds; pomelo; orange rind; orange peel; shredded lemon peel; moonflower?; lotus leaf; crocus bulb; stethoscope

potion of charisma:

at night, you may drink this potion; during the next day, you will have Increased Charisma. any player who disagrees with a statement you make while having Increased Charisma will take 1 HP of damage once the day is over. to "disagree" in this case is to speak in opposition to a claim that you have made, while obviously addressing the statement to you (determined at mod discretion). each player may take one damage at most; i will publicize the effects of this potion on you at the beginning of the relevant day. additionally, the burst of charisma you receive while drinking this potion allows you to drink another potion for the night.

ingredients: hop drink; powdered iron; hyacinth; toad urine; corn silk; corn water; corn juice; tomato

came up with just "poison" as an ingredient as i was crafting some of these and laughed soo much at myself every time i put it in

also i liked using all of your ingredients but i think the best one was simply tomato juice just bc it reminded me how incredibly powerful and obvious tomato is in general as an ingredient i would want to use

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as an aside: thinking that if somebody uses drink more potions and then gets neutralized, it should work out that the drink more potions fails to happen and so they don't use up any of their other potions

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posting this here & will gradually cut out potions as i send them in roles and stuff

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editing the text of DMP to say "use two more potions"

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town:

• clonk; Harmography; true sight; gulp; drink more potions
  
• Harmography; Harmography; Pain; Pain
  
• Pain, Pain
  
• Travelling Potion
  
• Gulp
  
• Pain
  
• no potions

town: 1-7 in this order; mafia 8 9

tris 1
pob long 5
bugspray 3
T3 7
Rhyme and Reason 2
skitter30 4
Datisi 8
Toogeloo 6
Retti 9

i'd like to congratulate town for their victory in mystery box of silver 12

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MAFIA THREAD !!!!: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87012

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quoted the wrong thing in #30 but i will just give pob long two gulps

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OK WELL i forgot that the 5 & 4 distributions were different as well but i happened to look at post #5 when i gave her the potions. also fortunately caught this before she picked up the PM

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this is like the ending of umm..... a certain movie . . . . .

anyway double checked it & all the potions went out correctly

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I don't want to out my main to you to avoid any potential TMI burdening. However, I'll tell you if we win this (and I believe we can win, I'm confident in myself and I'm confident in you)

ooo im a gonna like this person

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btw, i like the x-shot nature of this set-up

btw, i HATE x shot as a general mechanic and it is like 150% subservient to the basic idea of having there be potions

honestly considered having "ok you have this potion and you can drink it whenever you want and it turns you into an odd night neapolitan"

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87012 could have sworn i put u in the mafia PT sorry

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I know that whenever I say this the game is normally cursed, but I sort of feel like this is easy?

yeeteth the bugspray, then just yeet T3, trjis, and toogs in that order

~Rhyme

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dead thread https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87030

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frick!!!!

i drink the potion of drink more potions
i drink the potion of harmography with the rose thorn and gaze at datisi
i drink the potion of true speech and become drunk and tell pob long

GIRLS NIGHT

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https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_pm1i ... wiqmr1.mp4

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just making the call that when players use potions & don't specify which potion among a name (i.e. which ingredients) i'll use the one that i gave them topmost. doesnt really matter though

datisi: charisma + pain-> pob long
rettie: pain -> toog
skitty: traveling potion -> rhymy rheason
rhymies: i HURT triself today (authors note: not how i generally pronounce tris)
pob long: gulp pomelo potion
tris: DMP; true speech + drunk on pobby (success!); harmography on datisi (no one ataked him)

toogeloo holsters (reasonable imo)
t3 has no potions
bugspray has tragically past away

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anyway:
POBBY 1 HP
TOOGY 1 HP
TJIRJY 1 HP
EVERYONE ELSE HEALTHY

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he's not, charisma just gives you an extra use

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(because otherwise it's like soo bad and nobody would ever use it in their shoes)

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thanks for lookin

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Also, this is somewhat random, but did anyone happen to get told they got a hangover from drinking their potion?

eye browz up at this

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just felt like mentioning i think tris' actions are good

using the DMP right away is kind of obvious and good imo but something that not everyone would think to do (for example i think it's like pretty wrong for mafia to not use it here)

no one harmed dats might honestly be one of the most useful results she coulda got since it might be apparent that scum had multiple chances to stab and none of them were datisi who was towny (also pob long + toog shots are townie imo & the results might even be -town EV) (also they might be like, town sided or EV-neutral shots. lol) (depends on how those slots look)

maybe the one problem with the datisi harm is that it shows he didn't get any hits from town and offers partial explanation for him not getting killed (i.e. scum aren't interested in tossing him 1 HP of damage)

wonder if either of these mind games will get around to the players

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thinking about adapting this to a 10p semi open that's just randomly distributed (via poisson) pain potions + jailkeeper potions + harmographies, maybe like 5:3:2 or somesuch.

in particular the basic principle is that it's a nightless game where scum have to do a lot of ducking and weaving to try to get a little bit more control on the order of deaths.

i've been thinking about to what extent power roles offer a meaningfully different texture of the gameㅡsomething like vigilante is treasured for its occasional exciting moments as well as a fun little long-form study on undemocratic institutions. and i wonder whether all of those sorts of aspects of it are meta-game (which are fine and good the way they are, but maybe i'm interested in creating new forms of reasoning). like there's a growing consensus that vigs should make the uncontroversial shots, and insofar as they do so (honestly maybe even outsofar as well), the presence of a vig doesn't make anybody think about anything differently at any moment other than "wow cool vig shot". moreover the person who is the vig is always confirmed town

so i would want to make a game where:

• spontaneous individual vig-like actions are necessary for town to retain control over the batting order
  
• these vig actions can't be publically coordinated / consensus-based (low-commitment maf doctoring could honestly work this?)
  
• perpetrations of pains/kills are occasionally brought to light, so as to make it something to think about
  
• nature of the numbers-game makes it clear that mafia really ought to be attacking & not stalling out nights to burn out harmography potions (maybe town re-ups potions occasionally?)
  
• all potions are made purely out of pee

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itd pretty much have to be 10 or 11 players for the better-or-worse-than-nightless paradigm to kick in which would mean that it's in the theme q which would mean that everyone would see me run a (non-large theme) mbos game outside of the micro queue and start spreading horrible rumors about lilith2013 or something

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Still dunno what a worm agent is and iirc it had nothing to do wigh the rest of the setup

its a worm agent

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thinking of the official design ideology of the MBOS series might be given two equally-but-differently evil names of "PR pessimism" and "PR dialectical materialism"

• materially, every PR or mechanic or whatever has always just altered the order by which people leave the game. PRs belong in your game only when they create novel dimension of skill, beneficial modes of thought, or, like, when they're funny.
  
• i don't really have a lot of faith in PR hunting as a mode of thought worth putting stock into; i would expect that the extent to which people are actually capable of doing it to be abysmal compared to e.g. the general effectiveness of scumhunting. if i had that data to back me up i'd make some haymaker claim like "the notion of PR hunting is a false consciousness that just exists to form a convenient skill-based defense of PRs" but i think that it would be so hard to produce figures for it without, like, the mafia actively trying to document it as they play
  
• just in general i think there's a lot of room for skills related to PRs to be illusory, boring, non-repeatable, or isomorphic to the general skill of scumhunting. that said, i think there's interesting moments based on expecting people to behave a certain way while they have tools in their hands which can be something different
  
• day phases where someone has an incontrovertible guilty are SUCH a bummer
  
• multiball games are literally weird

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theres gotta be more to that but i've been thinking for too long abt it as is what i generally do

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couple things about charisma potion:

• ughh i dont want to be combing the thread for this lol i hope players just narc for me
  
• wish i could have answered rr's quesiton with "please know that it is at my discretion and that i am evil also" (not that i would have any interest in, like, trying to manipulate the outcome of the game, i just want to be as capricious as i can within reason for people that are obviously skirting the restriction)
  
• you could construct statements like "i am the alignment that i am!" by datisi, and then "you are mafia!" by someone else and then see if that registers as a disagreement. i want my official stance to be "i am just going to damage you if you do shit like that" but it is going to be "i am going to ignore you if you do shit like that (and you will)"
  
• in any case i hope that my players do not see fit to punish me for attempting a fun and open-ended game mechanic with a high ceiling of necessary moderation on my behalf

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@toog, i assume your vote wasn't a serious vote (or rather, a vote born from a scumread) so i would like to know where you stand today as opposed to your last reads yesterday?

It was a test and not a serious vote.

LOL

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Skitter, why the vote on me from the previous page? I assume you don't think I am null-town anymore. Then you voted for someone I had as one of my scum reads.

Give me your thought progression, por favor

You never actually answered 304 from me and I'd like to get a reply.

i thought you weren't scumreading bugs? why did you vote them?

also before i forget

@t3 can you Not ignore this pls

hummmm

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If I get limmed I think it's fine because there's a universal PoE.

statements like this should generally make you feel like somethings wrong i think

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also i was lowkey bored so instead of pretending to solve i just

strategies like this seem to be the key to beating towns these days OOOOOO (i have not played mafia in like more than a year and am not good at it) (also do not know how towns these days play, all of my playerbase is this insular group of people that keep playing my micros)

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think i have accidentally but successfully created a circumstance where it was not in town's interest to claim a bunch of shit

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people are picking the weirdest things to disagree with

in particular if not for the clause "i'm disagreeing with you" in both toogeloo's and T3's things i would have to think for a while whether it technically counts as a disagreement

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Get pob long or T3 at -1 HP, execute the other. I'll poke the one at -1 HP, if someone else has a poke potion, they can poke me tonight, or you can execute me tomorrow and use tonight and tomorrow night worrying about MeLo after my mis-elim if it gets that far.

i feel like i am living on a different PLANET??????? DID YOU ALL TAKE A CRAZY PILL BEFORE THIS GAME HUH????? why did everyone in this game decide were not playing mafia anymore insted were gona shoot people Willy Nilly and see what happens because nobody even knos how the setup works????? I am really losing my nuts!!!!!!!!!!

laffing

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totally didnt realize both of pobbys potions had poison in them LOL

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he's saying he has two potions called 'gulp', and that they do nothing, which sound dubious to me

there is literally nothing better than having a loyal playerbase

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it looks like the pressure of writing his posts in a ~neutral~ way is getting to him, when if he were scum that wouldnt' be happening

at least happy with this as evidence that a novel dimension of wolfing was created

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the best way to combat a scum team with no factional kill is for any town players with a damaging potion to holster it and never use it. Any deaths at night will be due to scum.

hope you understand that with that last sentence you are just describing a typical mountainous game

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2 pain/clonk/drink more/neutralize - retti
clonk/pain/neutralize/charisma - datisi

Retti uses the potion of drink more potions

Retti uses potion of Pain on T3

Retti uses potion of Clonk on pob long

Datisi uses potion of Clonk on tSjIs

That *should* be consistent with the potions we have left, please confirm

ohhh ... ummm .... hmmmm .... bubububu

soooo this game is going to end on n2 and like town wouldn't win this game under any setup i think but yeah mafia kind of got three nightkills in two nights. is that a lot ??? it wouldn't be like that if there were any scum executions, or if t3 hadnt charismad themself, and there can magically be a mafia kill tonight, and and and

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i think something mediumly important that i failed to consider is that town's damage potions are like only 60% as good as mafia's (or something) just because they can't coordinate

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so town made 2 and a half selections (bugspray, toogeloo, t3 selecting themself via charisma) and then scum also made 2 and a half. so i'm not like gonna cry about it

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that being said i reckon this game would have been better if people found out when they took damage

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not to be like evil moderator man but its not clear to me why retti is being townread

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oh i didnt even realize that the tris kill just incidentally works out - she took damage from rhyme and reason. so that kind of adds up to 3 selections by town actually compared to 2 and a half

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going to boldly say this was actually townsided if anything

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just thinking that if not for the shot on tris, datisi & retti would be staring down 5p elo where they have to get Exactly r&r as the endgame execution (skitter gets cleared by R&R using true sight on her)

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oh god noticed a horrible loophole which is that i have my no deaths for 3 days/nights -> town win clause which just so happens to be very exploitable here

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not that town has any way of knowing for sure that there's no mafia killing ability but like if they just decide to do that