MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Mathematical Demon, to become a councillor in the future
It is a shame that they were unable to attend this meeting. I may be of demonic origin, but I have very little knowledge of the theory being graphed here. In any case, I hearby declare that all fadings shall herein be naned Axicution., as to not give the Institutionalists a competitive edge.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I did go off on a tangent, didn't I? Oh well, I suppose I should go back to calculating Sin, something which I'm oddly good at. Of cos, that is the only thing I'm good at.

[Jake The Wolfie]

die ircher
VOTE: Ircher

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake The Wolfie (2): Jake The Wolfie, nomnomnom

Ircher, this is hilarious.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I wish I could've played with MD here, but there's the slightest issue of Ircher being the host.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I would like everyone to detail their relationship with math, your answers will be considered alignment-indicative.

Math is a helluva drug, causing headaches in most students who do it in high school.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Oh no! I'm helping the mod get a pagetop!

How awful.

[Jake The Wolfie]

All the cool people are doing it, even me!

[Jake The Wolfie]

why arent you voting for me all the cool cats are doing it.

[Jake The Wolfie]

By the way, anyone who claims a type of Modified Rolecop is confirmed town. This information I have from somewhere that I will not elaborate on furter.

T3, see me after class.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Did the mod include a JESTER???

Nope, they did not include Not_Mafia

[Jake The Wolfie]

MurderCat, do you know me Mafia-wise?

[Jake The Wolfie]

MurderCat, do you know me Mafia-wise?

We were in TM together, right?

Yeah, but have you seen me play in other games?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Spoiler:

also dgb's point is not good, scums are given fakeclaims and there's a sample town rolecard as well in the OP so this is not a good push
I'm more interested about how the game started with these weird flavor posts though, this is a weird rvs

Town read, I don't think mafia would point this out since it completely undermines Goofball's reasoning against me. And we're still in rvs cause math is kind of entertaining to talk about

@DGB: AGAIN, how I interpreted his post was "I

presume

the mod decided to do so and so, although it is not explicitly mentioned in the PM". I thought that might be some kind of role fishing, so I ignored it. He didn't say that

it is

mentioned in the Role PM though, as then he wouldn't have needed to explain it in details the way he did.

My guess is the scum team got one role from each of the "presumed" categories, and Xlos thus assumed one PR and one VT from each (or something like that) so it still would have benefited Scum to know that kind of info to plan their pushes and NKs.

Right, it's not in the role PM, but my role is a technique in analysis, so I assume that all roles are techniques in analysis, algebra or geometry. From this, you can deduce your role location. I was actually thinking that the scum team would have random 'guessing' techniques that weren't from these categories, like using OEIS (https://oeis.org/A002219) to figure out what a sequence is given the first few terms. Anyways, in the case you mentioned, it definitely benefits town more than mafia to know about all roles: it gives a really strong deductive power - if one scum is annihilated, then we immediately get a bunch of confirmed town, and scum are basically done for immediately. So if it is true, then town definitely benefits from everyone making this claim. If it's false, we still benefit since we get some information based on where people decide to claim that we can use later. The only case that this is bad for us is if it's false AND there is some role that depends on where you are from. But this seems extremely unlikely - it means that Ircher thought about the locations, made roles and flavor about them, and then made the flavor wrong. So before you guys decide if you want to annihilate me, you should convince yourself that the idea I proposed is actually bad for town. Cause I can't see it.

Xlos what the hell did I just read?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Nope, but MeMe is.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Yeah, but have you seen me play in other games?

I don't believe so, TM is all I remember

Why did you ask this, out of curiosity?

I wanted to get some more information out of your plays.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Breakdown:
3 No Scum in 1st 3 posters
7 1 Scum in 1st 3 posters
3 2 Scums in 1st 3 posters

Average: Exactly 1 Scum in 1st 3 posters

How can we trust that this data is not cherry picked?

[Jake The Wolfie]

You could've checked through any of us to find that pattern. Or (more likely) You could've looked through your games to find a pattern where there is an abnormal amoumt of randscum in one particular area. How can I trust that the data isn't p-hacked?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I.. don't have many finished games. Not recent ones, anyway.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Sidenote -
Isn't Titus and RCB the same person?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Sirius' doppelgänger lied to me.

[Jake The Wolfie]

MN 2124 - 0 scum in 1st 3 posts (1 scum in 1st 3 posters)
MN 2122 - 1 scum in 1st 3 posts (1 scum in 1st 3 posters)
MN 2121 - 0 scum in 1st 3 posts (1 scum in 1st 3 posters)
MN 2119 - 2 scum in 1st 3 posts (1 scum in 1st 3 posters)
MN 2118 - 1 scum in 1st 3 posts (1 scum in 1st 3 posters)
MN 2117 - 2 scum in 1st 3 posts (1 scum in 1st 3 posters)
MN 2115 - 1 (1)
NM 2114 - 0 (0)
MN 2113 - 1 (1)

[Jake The Wolfie]

If I had more time, I would've analyzed more games.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I guess I better retead the thread then.

all 8ish pages of it

[Jake The Wolfie]

@Jake: No, that's totally fine. 6 out of 9, and 8 scums netted. Now do you think this supports the rule or not?

I think we need to investigate why this rule holds

[Jake The Wolfie]

A50, do you think MC would freak out if they were town who knew they weren't hammered?

[Jake The Wolfie]

MurderKitty, I'd like to sell you some Future Death. At some point in the future, you will die. Not now, obviously, but sometime in the future, probably 2 or so days, you will die.

[Jake The Wolfie]

A50, is your hypothesis that the 1st 3 posters contain exactly, or at least 1 scum?

[Jake The Wolfie]

These are xlos's reads:

{Jake}
{Toog, nom}
{Wheme, Almost, MC, Italiano/Gardon}
{Goofball, Flea, Titus}
{T3}

Feels bottom heavy

Assuming this is true, why? Why does this feel bottom heavy?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Assuming this is true, why? Why does this feel bottom heavy?

Having only a single town read is weak when 75% of the game is town

Do you think that everyone below me on their readlist is either null or scummy?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why does Xlos, or anyone for that matter, have to take a position on a major interaction on demand?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Straight up if I'm the D1 elim I'm not going to effort a catchup post.

To be fair, if you are dead you won't make a ketchup post.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Ok guys, I just got the solve:

Ircher, Almost50, and Not_Mafia are all 3 Institutionalists. Please eject them post-haste.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Thank you T3, for stating that Flea is either Town or Scum.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Either Flea is scum or they're town being pushed by scum.

Basically from how fast the wagon formed I think scum are on town Flea.

Or flea is scum

Have you thought of that one

Either Flea is scum or they're town being pushed by scum.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Either Flea is scum or they're town being pushed by scum.

This is easily the most insightful post ever made in the history of mafiascum.

I am so sorry that you've never met Not_Mafia. Godspeed that you never meet them.

[Jake The Wolfie]

E-1

[Jake The Wolfie]

Intent to Hammer Flea if they get to E-1

Cut your bullshit out, or it will cost you your life.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Could you give your current readlist?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Also my internet is all fucky and my phone is dead, so my online accessibility is limited.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Flea, could you make a writeup of where your head is currently at? Reading your ketchup posts as individual snippets of consciousness would be tedious and it isn't giving me a clear idea of what you're thinking.

[Jake The Wolfie]

If you can find a scumgame, sure.

I'm not sure that I've ever played scum on this site.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Looking at my wiki, I've lost one scumgame, so yeah I've played as scum.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I.. don't know how you play, Flea. Unless you make a memorable impact in my consciousness (or I do a metadive in you), I tend to forget you.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Oh, Flea is at E-1

[Jake The Wolfie]

Who, on your wagon, do you suspect is scum?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Honestly you're acting like Not_Mafia right now, so for the record VOTE: Flea

[Jake The Wolfie]

Since you're already dead, why don't you give us a final readlist before Oicher comes back?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Post counts and ye gods jake learn to bloody read.

I've given my scum list. three times.

Ok, but have you listed your townreads? Your nullreads? Your "this person should be looked into more" reads? Or are you just going to pretend that Readlist and who you think is scum are identical?

[Jake The Wolfie]

You were openly trying to interact in realtime, but only after you had gotten to E-1

[Jake The Wolfie]

You were openly trying to interact in realtime, but only after you had gotten to E-1

I think I misspoke here

I meant you were only trying because you were very close to execution.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I mean big reason why i hammered really is because I can see how this day would have gone with this shit you're doing, and I have a role that profits from doing this, so shrug

I'm happy with the role that Oicher bestowed upon me.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well I honestly hope you're eliminated because I don't think you're town, your reason was just sooo baaaad.

Well, no, I'm not town.

In fact, I am a 3rd party.

I cannot die, even by a modkill performed by a player.

If Oicher, our lord and saviour, decides to modkill me, then I'll die.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Honestly you're acting like Not_Mafia right now, so for the record VOTE: Flea

just for the record if Flea does actually flip town this is 90% a scumpost

Hah! I've already survived D1, I cannot die during the day anymore. I am a god, I am immortal, and I shan't die.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

Good evening, everyone. *Yelling up at Ircher* and happy birthday to you!

[Jake The Wolfie]

pagetop

nom, why did you fail to claim Miller yesterday?

[Jake The Wolfie]

You do realize that if a cop targets you, that's a waste of their time (and possibly shots).

[Jake The Wolfie]

What alignment do you think your roleblocker is? (if that's what blocked you)

[Jake The Wolfie]

Nom, do you think that any reasonable cop would investigate you if you outed D1 as Miller?

[Jake The Wolfie]

*Pointing a revolver at everyone*

All of y'all are scum

[Jake The Wolfie]

That's a good question, why did you get a result if I'm scum

Scum don't actually have a roleblocker mayhaps?

[Jake The Wolfie]

pedit: I got roleblocked so unless a town roleblocker wants to come forward and admit they've blocked me, there's a scum roleblocker

So, if the scum roleblocked you, that means they didn't roleblock DGB, which means DGB was able to get a result on you.
If you are scum yourself, then you could be misleading us into believing that there is a scum roleblocker when there isn't one, which means DGB was anle to get a result on you.

Mystery Solved.

pedit:

Stop fucking claiming, everyone.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake, nom claimed to have targeted me with Friendly Neighbor.

And was (allegedly) roleblocked.
If a scum roleblocker existed, they would'be targetted Nom, not because their role was particularly powerful but they claimed to have a role.
If Nom is scum, then a scum roleblocker probably (see: definitely) doesn't exist.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Ooh, pagetop.

[Jake The Wolfie]

DGB either you're shit at this game, I'm shit at this game, or you're mafia. Considering your join date you're mafia.

Tbf, some people *waves hand* are just naturally untalented at playing Mafia

[Jake The Wolfie]

I don't particularly trust either of DGB or Nom here. It feels to convinient.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well aktually i'm an informed miller and I got in-fo' that there's only 1 1-shot cawp

[Jake The Wolfie]

I don't really trust DGB's claim, is the thing. I also don't think a cop CCs another cop this early.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Where did I say that I trusted Nom's claim?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Where did I say that I trusted Nom's claim?

You certainly seem to emphasize doubting me right now.

Could you explain why me doubting you would make me trust Nom more?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well aktually i'm an informed miller and I got in-fo' that there's only 1 1-shot cawp

This, was satire.

and also poking fun at T3

Edit: Size 75 or higher font please.
~Ircher

[Jake The Wolfie]

But I actually still want Jake and typing DGB's full name just for a meme is not really worth the trouble

???

What could this mean

[Jake The Wolfie]

Math, I was joking when I said I was neautral. Just like how I was joking when I said I was an informed miller.

You are throwing shade at me, and that is scumlike

[Jake The Wolfie]

@Jake — if you’re town then you were. If you’re scum then something caused you to be serious. There’s a good motto I have is that when someone tells you they’re not town you trust them on it. If you want me to think you’re town then just be town and quit joking around. There’s more than enough content for you to interact with. I am for the record not shading you. I stated what you did and my interpretations nothing else.

How do you know that I, Jake The Wolfie, wouldn't joke around as scum?
If I was serious about claiming to be Neutral, then I would've done it in a more serious way, or maybe even ~soft~ my role.
My goal.. isn't.. to convince you that I'm town. My goal may include to convince you not the vote for me, but that's true regardless of alignment.
You can say you weren't shading me, but that doesn't make it true.

Anyway, I don't like being self-put at E-2, so UNVOTE:

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well, that's hammer.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Wait, nvm. Galron and WhemeStar voted elsewhere.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Is today the day where we massclaim D2 for legitimately no reason?! What the fuck.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I've been skimming over the wall posts btw. You guys need to be bit more concise. My eyes tend to glaze over posts more than a paragraph long.

Yeah, I'm not really interested in reading an essay every 5 minutes just to play this game.

It's not bad that you guys are wallposting, it's just that (maybe a majority?) of us here aren't particularly interested in wallposts, and will usually skip over any of the points made in there. It's fine to post wallposts as a reference for the future, but not as a regular post.

/psa

[Jake The Wolfie]

Nom, if you had just claimed miller D1 you wouldn't have been checked. Anyone who would have claimed to check you woulx probably be axed.

In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)

[Jake The Wolfie]

whoops weird reply, meant to quote

Nom, if you had just claimed miller D1 you wouldn't have been checked. Anyone who would have claimed to check you woulx probably be axed.

In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)

I tried something else man, I didn't want to claim miller and get my ass vigged when I'm a form of invest that can get themselves confirmed so I tried something else

No vigilante worth their salt would kill a miller claim for claiming miller. Any vigilante who does that might as well fake a redcheck on another townie.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think DBG is the Greatest of all Time

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why are we talking about flavor and mech instead of analyzing the players?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I routinely make 5 posts in a row when I catch up.

The rest of my post stands.

No. The rules forbid this. I still think Nom's claim is weird as fuck but having played with nom before I think they'd obey the spirit of the rules. Saying that Nom wouldn't obey rules for a wincon is really shitty. I've been making longer posts to try to avoid double posting and get flak for it from people who "don't want to read paragraphs". This is a slow activity game. That means paragraphs will happen.

I'm sorry that I was misunderstood.

Could you use spoiler tags to hide the nitty gritty details of your paragraphs and have summaries of what's inside those paragraphs? That would make your posts much easier on the mind.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm still building words so I don't know if I can do reasonless but this is my thoughts.

MathBlade ==> Me
Toogeloo ==> Town by mechanics, I wish they'd do more
T3 ==> Town read (I only see a very specific world in which T3 could be scum but I really think town)
Titus ==> Moon logic town
WhemeStar ==> Gut town (light town read less than T3)

Xlos ==> Mid Tier seems newb
Jake the Wolfie ==> Mid Tier lurker
Galron ==> Mid Tier lurker

DrippingGoofball ==> In Scum PoE
Almost50 ==> Scum role fishing
nomnomnom ==> Occam's razor says he's scum. Need a damn good reason to vote somewhere else.

I rearranged the reads

[Jake The Wolfie]

You said holiday now it’s “look psychologically” whatever that means.

Are you claiming that Titus is lying about needing a break to psycologically catch up? Are you really about to commit to fact that Titus is lying about her mental state just to get away from a game?

[Jake The Wolfie]

</hyperventilate>

[Jake The Wolfie]

What are your reads Jake?

This game is quite hard to read. DGB and Nom decided to get into a tuef war, then A50 and Toog decided to shake things up by straight up claiming.

I'm a little put out of this game because players are claiming for the hell of it.

I don't trust that DGB's claim is entirely true, and I don't believe they targetted Nom.
Nom played this bad, and is probably scum.
Toog is probably scum with Nom.
A50 is just ???

Overall, I don't get good vibes from.. anyone, really. All of y'all are scum, and I'm the only townie.

[Jake The Wolfie]

@Toog, why did you roleblock nomnomnom instead of letting him resolve?

I found it suspicious that anyone who is town would openly claim they could use a role after meeting conditions on Day 1. Town would likely fear a blocking mechanic from scum more than scum would fear one from town.

If nom is scum and scum has a roleblocker... maybe not!!!

..are you suggesting that their roleblocker roleblocked their scumbuddy Nom?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Also, Jake the memeing in place of solving needs to stop.

VOTE: Jake

I think this person should die.

Thoughts will be released later.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Sorry, I'm nort self-targetting.

[Jake The Wolfie]

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Is Toog...

• a town roleblocker
  who happened to
  block a player who claimed to be a conditional PR
  ?
  
• scum (any role or goon)
  who
  pretended
  to have blocked nom to give credence to nom's claim of having been roleblocked?

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

I like this kind of post. It feels like a Quiz show.

Anyway, this is a bad contentless post. No one asked for this, and (more importantly) you didn't give/restate your thoughts in this post.

[Jake The Wolfie]

We can throw Jake to the sharks.

¿Que?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm not sure if Titus scumreads me or if she just want me to die.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Could you explain to me why?

[Jake The Wolfie]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

[Jake The Wolfie]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

Then T3 doesn’t die N2 and we see a quick bus on Nom not resistance. Is it possible scum play suboptimally? Yes. Likely no.

Redirect T3 to a scum then T3 goes “omg so and so is scum” or in this case “Townie X is scum role Y” would happen.

The chaos would be palpable.

1st paragraph: I mean, killing a PR is infinitely better than that PR getting a technically correct guilty on scum. (If T3 targetted Scum B but was redirected to Scum C, then they caught scum either way)
Nom being a Joat Doc would probably make the scum think that they could be hunted by a Vigilante. That gives them adamant reason to resist Nom's axecution.

2nd Paragraph: Killing T3 is better than them getting an alt positive on scum.

[Jake The Wolfie]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

That's something scum would say.

Why is that something Scum would say?

I mean DGB wrote that entire post as if I am town then put in the shade later like omg.

Maybe it's because I don't know your alignment and I keep wavering? Every post of yours I read, I go back and forth a dozen times.

If you had to give an irreversible read on MathBlade right now, what would it be?

At the top of the next page I am done will look after work / cooking tonight but Titus blatantly sheeping DGB seems wrong.

If the Toog elim succeeds and Toog is town I want in A50/DGB period. I know Toog is in my super elim pool but I want the scum in that trio.

Players that you'd think aren't in this game just reading MathBlade's iso:

Xlos
Galron
Jake The Wolfie
WhemeStar

Yeah, I'd like to see more from MathBlade about these players too. Especially because taking a break from reanalyzing the players you've been reading can help youdevelop better angles you didn't see before.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: A50

Let me know if you decide to wagon Xlos anytime soon. Else, I am not voting a townie, and won't be here to see you lose the game for town.

Are.. you implying that you are not town?

[Jake The Wolfie]

They aren't xlos when they use an eye.

I should probably go find the magical case for why Xlos is town before voting them.

[Jake The Wolfie]

They feel into the hole.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Math, do you primarily thing A50 is scum because they were shading you?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Should we wait for Galron's slot to come back before we axe Toog, or nah? I don't really feel comfortable axing Toog if Galron's slot didn't want to axe them, but on the other hand if Toog is scum then I don't really care what Galron says.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Should we wait for Galron's slot to come back before we axe Toog, or nah? I don't really feel comfortable axing Toog if Galron's slot didn't want to axe them, but on the other hand if Toog is scum then I don't really care what Galron says.

Don't like Jake rushing to lim Toog.

Excuse me? I'm not even voting Toog here, let alone rushing to axe them. What the hell, Titus.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Spoiler: snip!

It assumes that Toog was unsuccessful.
Toog could have submitted it as was driven/redirected elsewhere.
It doesn’t assume Toog didn’t block Wheme.

Wait what? I don't understand any of this.

I did only score a C+ in Cal II... I'm very proud of the "+" but it's not helping me in this game.

This is my suggestion (assuming you are town)
Toog submits to the moderator “I want to RB Nom”
Nom submits “I want to flavor cop Wheme / Y”
Scum submits either redirect Toog to X
Or Toog and Y busdriven

Then when Nom gets guiltied he fake claims out his butt and Toog then announces he blocked Noom which then makes the fake claim plausible and scum learn of a roleblocker.

In this world scum A50’s team checked Wheme and since Wheme didn’t go “I am not Root Test” you scummy mcscumscum then it’s safe to say that is accurate knowledge.

So A50 neighbor hider informed flavor doesn’t make sense but A50 scum does

Nom's claim doesn't make sense with a bus driver. He was either blocked or scum with Toog.

So you're saying Nom was.. Fakeclaiming?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Spoiler: snip!

It assumes that Toog was unsuccessful.
Toog could have submitted it as was driven/redirected elsewhere.
It doesn’t assume Toog didn’t block Wheme.

Wait what? I don't understand any of this.

I did only score a C+ in Cal II... I'm very proud of the "+" but it's not helping me in this game.

This is my suggestion (assuming you are town)
Toog submits to the moderator “I want to RB Nom”
Nom submits “I want to flavor cop Wheme / Y”
Scum submits either redirect Toog to X
Or Toog and Y busdriven

Then when Nom gets guiltied he fake claims out his butt and Toog then announces he blocked Noom which then makes the fake claim plausible and scum learn of a roleblocker.

In this world scum A50’s team checked Wheme and since Wheme didn’t go “I am not Root Test” you scummy mcscumscum then it’s safe to say that is accurate knowledge.

So A50 neighbor hider informed flavor doesn’t make sense but A50 scum does

Nom's claim doesn't make sense with a bus driver. He was either blocked or scum with Toog.

So you're saying Nom was.. Fakeclaiming?

Possible but not certain.

Either a) Toog blocked him or b) Toog is scum.

Nom doesn't claim blocked without backup.

Are you sure about that? If Toog is town, then they don't need backup. If Toog is scum, then this is scum orcestrating a big scene of smokescreen confusion.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Here's the Game Queue post.

This game is not bastard under the Theme Queue's rules.

[Jake The Wolfie]

snip!

Nom's claim doesn't make sense with a bus driver. He was either blocked or scum with Toog.

So you're saying Nom was.. Fakeclaiming?

Possible but not certain.

Either a) Toog blocked him or b) Toog is scum.

Nom doesn't claim blocked without backup.

Did I miss where Nom flipped friendly neighbor scum?

Of course he was fake claiming. How is that not certain.

Nom has to claim blocked because *gasp* fake claim.

Like I just can’t. I was going to catch up but I am kinda wondering if Titus is trying to townslip with just how bad that post is. Or if she is trying to fake not knowing something and did so badly.

Jake DGB thoughts?

I think when Titus said that, she meant he wouldn't claim that without backup from his scumbuddies.

That or Titus legitimately didn't know that Nom was scum, but I don't find that likely.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I mean I have quoted it. Xlos has quoted it.
A50 denies it after claiming it.

The ladies love it, the children are scared of it.

It's Jolene

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hey titus what the fuck did I just read

I know there are words, but there's no thoughts here.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I thought I was reading a warning from a site mod in my PMs

[Jake The Wolfie]

Do you not know what an exploder is

[Jake The Wolfie]

Ah, but this time I really am masons, promise *wink*
More seriously, I'm generally confused about what the fuck is happening in the game. Words are being thrown around, players can't seem to make up their mind, and some players are saying things contradictiong what both themselves and others are saying. I'm not really sure what to think, so I'm staying on the sidelines until my assistance is needed. Cutting off deadweight won't help you kill scum, it'll only keep the game noisy and unreadable.

[Jake The Wolfie]

e. Words are being thrown around, players can't seem to make up their mind, and some players are saying things contradictiong what both themselves and others are saying

TRUE

How scumvenient that of all the posts to opine, this is the one you chose.

"How dare you agree with someone that the game is confusing? Shame on thee!"

[Jake The Wolfie]

There's two whole days and a bunch of claims, what is confusing?

This song sums up my thoughts on the game right now:

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hey so what has Galron done recently?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I kinda forgot they were playing the game until I looked back at the playerlist.

After looking through their recent Iso, they've kinda just asked open ended questions and shot out short replies to messages. While that's all fine and such, he doesn't seem to be interacting with the players that much.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake, you are criticizing Galron's limited engagement, but holy shit they are actually taking stances on topics, unlike you.

Why do I have to commit myself to any stance that I don't genuinely believe in?

I do not have a stance because I'm too uninformed about whatever the fuck anyone is saying, and it has still remained mostly confusing and unhelpful. They might as well be talking in encrypted text.

[Jake The Wolfie]

One of the reasons this game is really hard to read is that I don't townread any of you. All I'm seeing is

red

and

grey

, without much (if at all)

green

.

There is no organization or association to what I'm seeing. Nothing here is making sense.

[Jake The Wolfie]

It voted for Nom really early and it never moved it's vote onto anyone else, so I don't think so.

[Jake The Wolfie]

My solve is Toog/Jake, if I'm wrong maybe Xlos, Wheme or MathBlade.

The Chainaxers just released their newest album called "Everyone's a little scum"

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

Isn't that the point of the game for town?

DGB appeared to be attacking my play because I was "acting" confused.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

Nobody else seems to be confused, I think it's just a excuse to do nothing and troll your way to end game. It's Day 2 and we hit scum. Go read nom and tell us who you think his buddies are.

How about you do it yourself since I'm apparently incompetent.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Uh, could you rephrase that?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Toog was hammered, m8.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: toog

eh fck it

a50 did you miss this vote that happened just before your posts

[Jake The Wolfie]

[Jake The Wolfie]

So Titus, what did you think of MathBlade'd claim to be a Vigilante Enabler?

[Jake The Wolfie]

DGB, I will throw you into a pit of snake oil if you ever suggest that I am only acting confused in a game of Mafia again.

[Jake The Wolfie]

The scum had ypu fooled, and I fooled the scum!

[Jake The Wolfie]

Let's actually Battle for Calculsia in Sacramento