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Ooo yah senpai your normal is so large uwu

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scumread me scumread me scumread me i want you to scumread me daddy

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VOTE: nomnomnom

are you town

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VOTE: T3

uwuuuuuuuuu is this a serious vote? is it because he's too excited to play this game?

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i didnt mean daddy as in father figure. i meant daddy as in

daddyyy~

.

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Almost50, do you want to be my daddyyy~

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He'll be in a corner for now while I talk to the humans.

ooo the corner i like it

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Hello excuse me I'm KittyTacky and I don't like wagons because wagons are scummy only scum make wagons

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Lmao

Lmao

Did you roll scum this game?

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VOTE: KittyTacky

> Votes me because I'm the third vote in the wagon.
> Obviously, scum makes wagons.
> And not only that, scum often makes wagons 3 pages in.
> I'm not even the third vote in the wagon.

This is what it looks like when scum is trying to fake a reason to vote 4 pages in.

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KittyTacky, cite five Normal games in the past 6 months where scum made wagons 3 pages in.

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I think that T3 scumtell would have yielded null results because we called it out too early

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This doesn't feel right, personally. Last time I played with Kitty he was a PR and made mistakes, so I don't know how much he improved but I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt this time.

Tell us about Kitty

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So what's your read into his posts recently? How do you figure if he's just an awkward but nice TOWN guy who sheeps people while trying to give town ideas vs an awkward but nice SCUM guy who sheeps people while trying to give town ideas? What exactly about it doesn't feel right?

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Well, I guess Elsa can't be TMI about KittyTacky's town alignment because there are two scum teams in this game. So maybe if KittyTacky flips town, Elsa's town as well. Otherwise, if KittyTacky flips scum, there's an obvious connection to be made that Elsa is partners with Kitty.

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I've been trying to mimic my scumplay as town in that I actually case people in the post I vote them for.

What for?

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I think he's just an awkward but nice guy who sheep's people while trying to give town ideas.

My scum detector is fully erect from this and it won't calm down. Intuition says TMI, but I don't know how TMI you could really be as scum in a 2-team game.

nom what's your take?

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While I agree that ActionDan could be town, I disagree that the asking part is easily fake-able for someone with 10 years of experience in the game I think being willing to give someone townpoints to Almost50 so early in the game is the townie part.

Not sure I agree with this. Even if Elsa flips scum, it's a factor, not a confirmation. It could be a pocket.

If there are two scum teams, how will scum be able to know if they're pocketing town or if they're pocketing scum? What value would it have to whiteknight anyone who you think could flip scum? What value would it have to pocket anyone who you think could be potential rival scum? I don't see that happening unless the other scum is informed about who is the other scum (which I doubt).

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I disagree that the asking part is easily fake-able for someone with 10 years of experience in the game

EBWOP: I disagree that

the asking part is townie.

It's easily fake-able for someone with 10 years of experience in the game.

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Admittedly, this is my first large normal and this is my first multiball. I don't know jackshit about multi-ball scum strategy.

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I actually like Kitty as town. Saying this is all bullshit in a sea of mechanics talk is a good position.

I'm sick of the mechanics talk too. The setup will reveal itself with time.

I thought I understood it but upon re-reading, I realized I don't understand this. Can you rephrase?

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Is this a joke? Have you actually claimed non-VT as VT? How do you plan to read Titus early from your vote, and if it's related to pressure of some sort, what do you hope to accomplish when you announce it?

I really like ActionDan I hope he isn't scum

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Well I thought RVS wagons were a scum thing. I heard it was but I don't remember where. Apparently not.

Why apparently not? Have you changed your mind and now think I'm town?

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Yeah your response looked like a townie who was accused rather than a scum who was accused (and so was NNNs). I can tell the difference between that at least.

What's the difference?

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What's your read list right now, KittyTacky?

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Cyrus is probably town for angle shooty reasons.

This is my take as well

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I'm not gonna comment on what cyrus said, for obvious reasons.

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It's incredibly hard to believe you thought you'd accomplish anything with that that couldn't have otherwise been asked directly to titus

This is my take as well x2

Damn ActionDan

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Hello my name is Elsa Jay and I will be doing what we call a "pressure vote". This is a vote that's meant to test for reactions. This will make Titus feel the pressure and her reaction will be super indicative of her alignment.

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this is useless busywork

Kitty was claiming scum often do that, so they must prove it.

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I think there's a legit possibility that Elsa Jay and Kitty are partners

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what the fuck is that question even

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6 months is half a year
5 games is 5 games, a number you could count in one hand.
5 is nothing compared to how many normals are fired in 6 months.

if you claim that scum do it often, it's not gonna be a waste of time because it would be easy.
why focus on those numbers? they're just there to prove a point.

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KittyTacky calls me scum based on shoddy reasons and backtracks because my reactions (which was to immediately OMGUS him) is town to him.
Elsa Jay TMIs KittyTacky as town, tries to divert by announcing with trumpets and fanfare that he's gonna pressure vote Titus and "this is so much better i promise"

yeah I'm happy with my vote

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Numbers are evil. Only scum use numbers.

honestly this perfectly encapsulates the feeling I have towards what HEM posted

lol

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I'd rather wagon Elsa VOTE: Elsa Jay
Kitty could still be scum
ActionDan my strongest townread
cyurs could actually be town this time, because he changed his playstyle
T3 could actually be scum this time, or he changed his playstyle
Dunn might be town idk
nom doesn't feel like he's town
Gamma feels awkward pushing me
Why did Titus leave the Elsa wagon in favor of cyrus?
I don't have any read on Almost50 and Nero Cain
Lucifer, Icerint should join us

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Gamma, I don't understand your issue with me at all

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I work on other things outside of mafia, I need sleep, and more importantly, this is multiball so people actually have an incentive to play here and I can't usually go with my usual reasoning that scums will largely be pretending this game, because scums actually will scumhunt here.
So I'm spending my time thinking about other ways to find scum, and honestly this is harder than I thought. I don't have much here

why don't you feel like town this game nom

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T3, why did you choose this game specifically to change things up?

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Titus, I don't understand your cyrus vote at all

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If you mean HEM he's going extra paranoid and trying to lead the game. I wouldn't say SUPER scum indicative, but it doesn't feel like he leading it for town but for his own safety. Sounds weird if I put it like that.

Town for now, but wouldn't be surprised if he's scum trying to eliminate the bigger threat first.

what the fuck are you talking about

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Because of the setup, this feels like a game where scum would not want to be in the spotlight and at least 2 scum would be actively lurking. Icerint and Lucifer needs to post so that we can get a full picture of the game.

I feel like you're fitting the definition of an active lurker, nomnomnom.

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What are YOU talking about?

What's this "I'm not leading for the town for town but for my own safety" theory can you explain

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I forgot to include a read on NDMath, but it's also a testament of how much he's not here.

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I don't know what to make out of most of them.

I don't feel like you're trying either.

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Then why aren't you sharing them?

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I would, if I had any clue where to start

but you just said it's what you've been doing behind the scenes? i feel like you're bullshitting

nom, remind yourself that town have an interest in scumhunting and that's their only interest. what i perceive isn't a presence of scum, but a lack of town.

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like, you've voted T3. you've voted with me on KittyTacky. you've voted ElsaJay. what do you mean you have no clue where to start? some townreads would do.

i think i'm getting more and more confident that you're scum.

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later, when you're not helping me with Elsa Jay

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unlimited +town points for that entrance

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How so?

Elsa Jay defends your slot with nothing to base it on, creates a flimsy excuse that it's better to pressure a slot like Titus, but does it in a way that looks unproductive and insincere.

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I'm going slap someone if they don't read that major advice I just gave on catching scum.

oooo daddyyyyy~

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I think ot might be scum pocketing instead. Or like. Dragging someone down with her.

Do you scumread Elsa?

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cyrus what's your read on Elsa?

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Not_Mafia is trolling. Cyrus is sincere.

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Is SK even normal?

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If Elsa goes to E-1, I will unvote. Not ready to end the day without everyone being somewhat readable.

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Click on my name go read the game marked I don't remember the name of this game. Scum have to catch each other's attention which I think kitty was trying to do with that vote on Elsa. You watch kitty . Okay

Cyrus this is 2 scum teams who are against each other, not 3 scum and 3 traitors. The scum that belongs to the same team and win condition would know each other, unless there's a traitor. They have no interest in making each other known because they're against each other. I even asked the mod to clarify.

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I just checked and Serial Killers are Normal

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I don’t like your posting where you narrate what others are doing and describe the scum motivation you see in it, it comes off as rather contrived and overblown

Okay... why is that scum?

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Well, don't you think my reads make sense?

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This makes zero sense. First, since it’s multiball scum also have motive to scum hunt. Second, town also have to convince others they are right, and also not look suspicious.

I'm not disagreeing that multiball scum means scum also have motive to scumhunt. I'm shutting down the idea that

not scumhunting

is town or NAI. Town have to convince others they are right and also not look suspicious? What does that got to do with what nom is doing?

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But why the dramatic narration?

I'm having fun

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Why are you avoiding Elsa's slot? What's your read on Elsa's slot?

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Gamma and Almost50 gives me scum theater vibes

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Elsa's real quiet for someone who's in E-something

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Mod, can we pwease have a vote count

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cuz ur active lurking

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Elsa said he'd be back in an hour. that was 10 hours ago.

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i miss him already

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daddy come back

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But you're not even solving the harder slot

What's your read on Titus now?

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Why stupid town vs stupid scum (not saying Kitty is stupid)

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She's doing stuff for town

Doesn't everyone, regardless of alignment, does stuff for town? In this case, what stuff does Titus do makes you think "aha that's town indicative for Titus right there!"

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I thought he was stupid town

you just said you thought he was town?

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Everything Elsa

I think you're flipping scum.

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VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

I just noticed that Lucifer has posted and it's just a naked vote

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i agree that cyrus is town. i feel like he's more obviously fake as scum. right now, i think he's sincere but he's still out there.

"monkey and nom are scum from another team" is so out of nowhere and ridiculous, but it feels like an honest take and not something that's just being said to look townie.

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=83473

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=84316

My Last big town games on site before my break then if you wanna compare my meta.

I can't see the difference much since I'm me, but I or know SOME people can read me well.

what am i supposed to see here?

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I'm looking at Almost50's iso right now and I honestly have no idea how to read this.

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Like am I supposed to townread this? It just feels like a reaction video for this thread than an actual attempt at solving stuff

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I'm not too comfortable with the people that are with me on this wagon except for ActionDan and maybe Dunn. But I still think Elsa Jay is a good wagon and a good lim.

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What's your Almost50 read

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Actually give us a take on everyone on your wagon

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nom can you towntell? I'd feel much better if you're town. we agree a lot, but you lack that

feel

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why is that a scum slip cyrus?

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My wind has been taken away from me.

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You know why

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Why lol I caught you the same way I caught you last time. You're TMI-ing hard on Kitty earlier and hard defending a slot you have no business hard defending.

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Since we've last talked, you still haven't been trying to solve this game the way you postured yourself you would be at the start of that game. Where's the sorting of the hard slots? I asked you to sort Almost50, someone you claimed last game that you could absolutely sort, and still nothing. There are 17 players, and still nothing. No readlist, no activity, nada.

Unless you're in E-1, I don't think I'll change my mind here

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Just now you went for Kitty, and your reasons are absolutely unclear

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Almost50 wasn't even your scum buddy

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also already explained why I defended Kitty to you.

And yet now you're voting Kitty for reasons unknown

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I think HEM is scum. Their content is focused heavily on asking player X to reflect on player Y, rather than engaging with what players have already done in the game. Further, I have not noticed HEM make significant use of what comes from their pattern of inquiry.

You're not seeing that I'm trying to get people to vote Elsa or make a stance about Elsa in the case of a flip?

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A. I don't understand the Elsa wagon from people who know Elsa. (I can definitely understand Dan voting Elsa, but think this is due to Dan not knowing them.) I don't know what experience other players have with Elsa but think most know them.

B. I think Titus, Dan, Gamma are town. Cyrus and Elsa are probably town. Caveats: I've never played with Cyrus before (cf., lots of players allude to previous history with Cyrus as relevant for understanding Cyrus, and I'm missing all of that). I was also reminded of Elsa's early idealization of Titus when I previewed my post, so maybe I'm over-valuing what seems like opportunistic Elsa-voting.

Explain A and explain your Elsa townread

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Because he's scummy, dumbo.

I only defended him to repay a self imposed debt because I felt bad. That literally had nothing to do with alignment of this game, I just wanted to be able to talk to him more to make up for last time.

I don't make plays like that day 1 unless I'm trying to be FRIENDLY to people and get to know them better. I defend people I'm either friends with cuz I wanna play with them longer, nice people who are ganged up on, or some newbies who I think can't defend themselves.

For you everything has to have an alignment purpose for an agenda or some shit. For me I just do things to know people better regardless of my alignment.

If you saw Kitty was being scummy, why would you discourage town to pressure them and get reactions? How are you "getting to know Kitty better regardless of alignment" when your move was actually to divert attention elsewhere?

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the game where we both ruined (by SRing each other for -what turned out to be- playstyle differences) had just ended. Can we try again?

How did I ruin that?

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I think Elsa vs Kitty is non-aligned

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It's plausible

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nom have you had time to give us your take on the game?

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Good. I was right then.

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But it's not a hardclaim...? What's your role, what are you talking about, etc.?

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Oh good I don't need to do much catchup
maybe my theory about elsa/kitty being from different scumteams is possible too
let's gooo

Please catch up nom. I need town!you here.

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Tbh people that get run up on D1 and claim a pr are usually the kind of claims I would just lim through. I don't see the purpose of a plain Neighborizer.

T3 isn't being run up.

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But it's not a hardclaim...? What's your role, what are you talking about, etc.?

Based on my role (which I don't want to say rn) Elsa is very likely a mafia neighborizer.

T3, how can we gauge this information if you won't even tell us how you got this information?

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So... are you an INFORMED neighborizer? How did you figure that Elsa is scum neighborizer?

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oh shit i just saw Elsa claimed neighborizer lmao

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sorry guys i just woke up

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did either of you crumb your neighborizer role? just in case

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that's such a shitty crumb

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I google "films called cops" and found a film done in 1920 so I pretended to typo 1920 in my first post.
I google "films called doctor" and found a film done in 1920 so I pretended to typo 1920 in my first post.
I google "films called vigilante" and found a film done in 1920 so I pretended to typo 1920 in my first post.

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I googled "films called whatever role I need to claim and say I crumbed" and found a film done in 1920 so I pretended to typo 1920 in my first post.

Action Dan, you forget that it's a multi-ball. T3 could be scum trying to set himself up to be confirmed town when he could still be scum just trying to get an elim go through.

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@Nero I'm inclined to think so. T3 hard-defending limbaits like cyrus are just the TMI/WK stuff that you can catch him do as scum that's absent from his town game. His insistence that cyrus is town is reminiscent of that. However, I'm reconsidering that read of mine because it's a multi-ball and you can't be TMI about someone's alignment. You can only pocket people.

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I agree that cyrus is town, but that doesn't make T3 town

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That's a great point

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I'll discuss T3 soon. I can't right now.

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Why is it a "clumsy town claim" I mean if he's a 2x neighboizor and really thinks his and Elsa's role can't co-exist then sure he's doing the town thing and cc'ing but I think it's also plenty possible that both scum teams were given neighbor izers and he's cc'ing for town cred. Don't get why you are calling it clumsy

This

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Anyway, I learned from my previous game that we shouldn't rush the game to end until I can confidently give a gutread on all slots. So, we take our time.

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It's simply a strategical bad move coming from scum no matter how you spin it and I would only expect a scum that plays in really audacious ways to pull a move like that

Lack of grace seems like audacity to the calculated.

I think if I'm a rival scum team to T3, I would just lead the town to wagon T3 for towncred.

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Elsa is still the best lim — make no mistake.

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Again, I can't relearn my town meta if you all don't actually let me play my first town game in about 9 months.

It's very easy to let me and T3 prove we're lying or not. I literally just need one more dayphase.

Tell us who is scum

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If it's not you HEM I garuntee your getting gaslit. When it seems like so many people agree with 1 slot day 1 in multiball that's a bad sign

you say shit like this but you're not even looking for the scum in your wagon. you're just telling people that there's scum in your wagon.

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So Kitty is gaslighting me?

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His reads list says otherwise. Why don't you make your own?

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Please do. We have time.

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I wouldn't surgest read list till d2 here it would just give scum more to work with.

cyrus I will nominate you for in the Scummies 2021. You are a true Paragon of Mafia Hunters.

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am i being cast in a movie

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Thanks Elsa

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You called me the big guy

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I also think Elsa is flipping scum

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I can discuss T3 now

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=86832

In this game, I caught him as scum because he was townreading and hard defending a slot he had no business townreading and hard defending.
His play on cyrus today is reminiscent of that.
Also, in there, he seemed too excited to play the game — unlike how I usually see him in games we played together.
His change of pace this game is reminscent of that.

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tell us your paragon-tier theory on gamma's scum game

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I think the only key difference between this game vs a regular game is that bussing doesn't work because it nullifies any town cred you would otherwise gain from it in a normal game. i have no idea how this relates to our current situation. i just want to put it out there for everyone to stew on.

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thank you oh wise one

what do you feel about elsa, cyrus the prince of darkness?

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again, thank you oh wise one

who are your 4 townreads that you mentioned earlier?

also what happened to the avatar where you're 6 inches away from the camera and smiling at us with a killer smile?

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...these are the same people townreading you

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oh except nero

can you explain your townreads, cyrus the rebel?

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uuuuh I thought you had a scumread on me? What happened?

same

i thought we were rival scum

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gamma mostly mingles with town but if given a chance will jump on easy wagons also finds the tinyest reasons to scum read people.

I think Cyrus might be full of shit because he doesn’t have more than one completed game with me where I was scum

Gamma, do you feel like this is an accurate representation of your scum game? Doesn't matter where it's from.

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cyrus, lord of meta

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cyrus, tell us about nero's exact same town play

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So, you doubt it? You think that if Elsa flips scum, T3 is probably town?

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I hope you feel better, Titus

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Who are we still waiting to see check in?

Lucifer

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I absolutely don't buy the late "weak" claim. If she was, she would have claimed that earlier and asked us to spare her based on that strategy.

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So she saved it to use it properly? The proper way to use it is to announce who you would be targeting, and she hasn't done that at all. Even if they were hiding the weak modifier, she hasn't even announced her target at all.

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And now, she even announces it. What's her point now?

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I'm feeling the same. It's taking literally everything from me to not rally the town to elim Elsa right now. But I got burned to do that in my past game. At the very least, everyone should check in. At most, everyone should have at least interacted with everyone.

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wouldnt scum kill her target ruining her one shot making her claim look fake? Sorry just thinking how I hander. prs as scum which is why I said chumb her target.

Her claim looks fake now. If her target dies, then nothing changes — she gets another shot until she dies or she dies from being weak. But the fact is, she's useless anyway if we don't know who she targeted. If she can show us that she crumbed or announced her target around the time she claimed, I might reconsider.

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Show us that you crumbed or announced you target around the time you claimed, I might reconsider.

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I'm a 1-shot neighborizor. Not even loyal or anything. I just pick a person and make a PT with them. If it helps, the Mod doesn't use the American version and instead uses 'Neighbourizor'. With a U. You all can even pick a target for me if you want.

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I'll think about this

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I think I like this? There's nothing I have a problem with.

She said there's scum inher wagon, but she townreads everybody except Kitty. She's 50/50 on me.

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I've thought about it. Between Elsa's TMI defense, her lack of scumhunting, T3's counterclaim, changing her claim last minute (even though she said it had no modifiers), and the information we'll get from her flip, I think Elsa's just the right lim here. There's a play where we lim someone else (like KittyTacky), let her use her night action, and confirm me/nom/Titus. But Elsa's has a history of fakeclaiming roles and I doubt this one's different. If she's a scum PR, that's even more dangerous.

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Let's do it

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Not before Lucifer and Andres enters the game

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SOMEBODY once told me the WORLD IS GONNA ROLL ME
I ain't the sharpest tool in the sheeeheeeeed

[humaneatingmonkey]

I talk about my mafia games all the time with world-famous celebrities and artists.

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I saw Tony Parker at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

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come

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I hope to God I get town next game tho.

I hope you get town next game too

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Now that's a plot twist

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push me nero

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We don't have to end the day yet. Elsa may have scum claimed, but it's still not a hammer lol. She's in e-1.

[humaneatingmonkey]

that's true, but what would they say about today minus the night events?

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For nom, there's never been a case on them, you've just repeatedly called them scum all day.

nom has actively lurked all day

[humaneatingmonkey]

But a few people with nothing to say, and a few people trying to implicate other people

this

[humaneatingmonkey]

cyrus is not an IC, but i would be surprised if he is scum

[humaneatingmonkey]

Icerint or Gamma are my favorite picks for Elsa's scum partners

[humaneatingmonkey]

why the quotation marks? you HAVE actively lurked all day

[humaneatingmonkey]

Here's what he did all day:
• T3 town
• cyrus town
• Elsa scum
• Kitty scum from other team

Nothing else follows. Is there more I'm missing? We have like 17 players in this game. He promised me he'll read the thread and give his opinion on more but he still hasn't done that and opted to park on Elsa's wagon instead. I mean, Elsa's still scum, but he could be that other scum from the other scum team.

[humaneatingmonkey]

How would you characterize it, then? But why only for these slots?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also, I'm interested in hearing if anybody disagrees with any of this

Why did you mech-cleared cyrus? He was a late addition to the wagon, and has taken a hesitantly defensive stance on Elsa

[humaneatingmonkey]

All the more we need to wait for feedback from Iecerint, Andres, and Arcangel.

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other people: NOOO YOU CAN'T WATCH THE GAME UNFOLD YOU MUST GIVE YOUR EVERY PASSING THOUGHT AND ANALYSIS TO THE THREAD NOOO SCUMMM
me: haha elsa wagon go brrrr

the problem is you weren't like this when you were town with me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Okay hammer. Elsa's at E-1

[humaneatingmonkey]

Would have been nice to hear them before N1.

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes

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Why

[humaneatingmonkey]

2041 is the only thing I can tell you.

what

[humaneatingmonkey]

I want to be in on the loop

[humaneatingmonkey]

and how are you presuming that?

Icerint called Elsa town on meta, and called me for pushing her. Gamma was actively trying to build a counterwagon against Elsa all day. His push on Almost50 isn't really convincing.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I agree with Dunn so much

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We can start hunting for the mafia team, which would involve flipping KittyTacky and seeing if they'll flip Mafia or not.
Or we can have a solid shot at taking out Elsa's partners, whom we have associatives with.

I vote Gamma. VOTE: Gamma Emerald He's read Elsa as scum all day, but has never been in the front lines of that push. He has actively tried to create a counterwagon on that with me and Almost50 but it hasn't worked out for him.

p-edit: I'm not gonna delete this post just because Gamma claimed gunsmith.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Either way, I don't really give a shit if we're limming Mafia or Werewolf today. Just slimming any scum would help us. If it really is 2-player rival scum teams, we eliminate a night kill by eliminating Werewolf. We would also have a better idea if it's 2v2 or 3v3 if an NK stops happening after we lim the 2nd Werewolf. I like our chances with the limpool today.

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why the FUCK do I play the way I have as scum? I have called attention to myself in very inopportune ways, ways that would make me a prime choice for a NK. Which alignment do you think has more to lose by getting NKed?

Well, how do you imagine scum would have played around Elsa's wagon? Would you have bussed?

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For non-Elsa-Scum, I'm suspicious of HEM.

You keep saying this since your entrance but I don't understand your case on me

[humaneatingmonkey]

Sorry if I'm a bit loopy in this game. I just had a very serious episode of depersonalization.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I would have probably bussed, actually

Do you think it's misguided to check on those outside of Elsa's wagon to check for Elsa's partner?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Well, this is gonna be stupid question, but why weren't you killed after crumbling that hard?

[humaneatingmonkey]

So since you were allegedly roleblocked, shouldn't you be going after almost50?

Good question

[humaneatingmonkey]

Based on kills, the mafia team were aiming at town for sure (and not elsa's partner)

Yo Dunn, can you explain this? How are you so sure that the mafia team were aiming at town for sure?

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Huh I think that's a slip

[humaneatingmonkey]

Okay, which kill was made by the mafia team?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm still trying to make sense of the intuition I got that Dunn slipped there.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Still stuck there.

How can one be so confident to say that the mafia team were targeting town and not Werewolves?

[humaneatingmonkey]

That's a type of confidence you can only get if you're a werewolf.

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Like, which kill would tell you that?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Well I've explained it multiple times.

I know but intuition says it wasn't a good POV and I'm not in the headspace to make sense of it but I have a strong gut feeling like that was a slip. How can you be so confident that your PoE is one and the same as the mafia team?