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Lmao

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Lmao

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Ok my thoughts on the game so far is hem could be scum I have seen how he acts as town. And this isn't it.

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VOTE: hemSo I'm going to take my rvs vote and put it on hem

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@Cyrus: That isn't an RVS vote and you will have to explain yourself. Please show gameplay you think exemplifies HEM's town play and tell me why it is different than what you see here (and how you can determine that in 6 pages).

due to on going game play I can not answer it . But I can say trust me. And it is rvs since it's my 1st vote. He jokes around more as town.

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Ps I was laughing because I now know how to till who's town or not this game. Because I have played town and scum with a lot here and I don't forget.

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pretty sure nom and hem are scum on diffent teams

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pretty sure nom and hem are scum on diffent teams

Based on what for nom?

ive seen his town play and scum play recently this isn't there town play.

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Pretty sure gamma is town here they are more laid back as scum till end game.

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I think this is my worst nightmare. I can't get the net to work on my desktop so I'll try to play on my phone. Wish me luck.

I wanted to change my name to nightmare for along time

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I think this is my worst nightmare. I can't get the net to work on my desktop so I'll try to play on my phone. Wish me luck.

I wanted to change my name to nightmare for along time

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Nero is normally more active as town.

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Nero is normally more active as town.

If you don't back off from this point, I am vote locking you. Everyone deserves a chance to fucking play the game.

do it . im given reads as i see em . titus is scum here.

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im not scared dont you get it . i wont lose heart over this . i wont look bad for pushing me like you will titus . lol again bring it.

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lmao

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pre: edit i didnt vote nero i also didnt call him scum i simply said town nero is normally more active and i will add this town titus is normally more passive

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Nero is normally more active as town.

I like how you are preemptively getting this in after I just said that I'm having internet issues and it's hard AF (at least for me) to type on my phone and it's only page 8, it would be wildly different if this were page 60 or something. And while I can't prove it I am writing things down to add to my catch-up post

this was mostly a joke but i love the reaction from titus . shakes head relax we just started.

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oh did i catch scum early with my play/ maybe . maybe not. toxic im not . do you know how often i have to switch back in fourth its funny why cause we have all been there well maybe not haha funny but ironic lol this is fun

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VOTE: Elsa
Feels pretty scared this game and stiff in posting style which contrasts to the usual joyful outlook he usually has in the games I played with him where he was town.

why so slow on the play there is two teams this time. so yes i expect hard core scum hunting this game.

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haha bite me page 10 page top

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here maybe this will help every one relax

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VOTE: Elsa
Feels pretty scared this game and stiff in posting style which contrasts to the usual joyful outlook he usually has in the games I played with him where he was town.

why so slow on the play there is two teams this time. so yes i expect hard core scum hunting this game.

I work on other things outside of mafia, I need sleep, and more importantly, this is multiball so people actually have an incentive to play here and I can't usually go with my usual reasoning that scums will largely be pretending this game, because scums actually will scumhunt here.
So I'm spending my time thinking about other ways to find scum, and honestly this is harder than I thought. I don't have much here

this makes alot of since . but im going crazy. on stuff and ps have fun.

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Titus is towny for the cyrus townread and then flip. it seemed like a genuine thought and as a result likely isn't scum opportunism.

huh?????? flip??? town read???? did i miss something????

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t3 add a avatar it helps.

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I've found completely ignoring cyrus is the best strategy.

Best post

Not what you two are doing though

You're calling him scum and/or using a scum strategy and generally making the thread all about him - the opposite of ignoring him, in fact

lol

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Hello I'm Cyrus I will vote my town
Leans side with my scum leans and hammer any one at e1

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No scum games you didn't look did you

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Ok I'm caught up. Cryus Elsa and nom are my lim pool today as of right now

Cught up gee 11 pages must take forever

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Before I was mostly messing around but after only 11pages haveing 3 people as Poe already seems rather early so yes now Nero is on my scum redar

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Why is elsa in your lim pool?

That's easy he's looking for easy elemations .

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Btw if you guys really tried reading me you would notist this play is me messing around. I started by replacing in as towny then becoming scum then pr twice then town. And again town funny you said no scum games I been scum 5 times since I started and to date. So why can't you find no scum games.

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T3 Nero Titus looking for number 4

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Oh yea and hem there's my 4

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Nom is town other wise he push me as a easy mis elim

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Hem is not voteing me t3 isn't voteing me. And so 2 out of 4 anit. nice misrepresent though

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What if he's a buddy or just scum that hasn't pounced on u yet?

also Elisa is voting me and I didn't call him scum.

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So either your misrepresented to make me look bad or your just not trying which is way out of town play for you.

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Funny if he's thinking the game I think he is then he would note I wasn't vt there pr Cyrus rolls harder then vt Cyrus vt Cyrus just doesn't care he messes with people. Scum Cyrus is like pro Cyrus he will take his time posting every thing and try to fit in more. Cyrus has 3 sides. What side is this

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Nero cain with conspiracy level theories here
Why do you think I'm scum, Nero? Like, drop all these weird nonsensical partner theories and just tell me why I am scum on a baseline level.
pedit: cyrus is a force of nature none can do

Can you give me that pre edit after this game

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Ps scum hate me.

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What if he's a buddy or just scum that hasn't pounced on u yet?

also Elisa is voting me and I didn't call him scum.

Maybe it's you and Elsa then and nom is the one from the other team

It's just that I and Titus were voting you and then t3 said he's not town reading u or w/e qualifier and we just happened to be your 3 scum reads

you don't find it funny that t3 said he was do a meta drive on me then came back 5 mins later and said he couldn't find a scum game to compare this to. it's not hard. Cross roads isn't hidden

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Funny if he's thinking the game I think he is then he would note I wasn't vt there pr Cyrus rolls harder then vt Cyrus vt Cyrus just doesn't care he messes with people. Scum Cyrus is like pro Cyrus he will take his time posting every thing and try to fit in more. Cyrus has 3 sides. What side is this

Everyone is thinking I'm not touching this did he just refer to him self in 2and 3dr person lol

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Nero Cain is scum here sorry guys and Titus is to .

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Are you just saying names now and hoping one sticks? I think atleast 5 people haven't posted yet.

Never there is always a maythod to my madness. For example if both scum teams hate me bad enough I may draw both night kills.

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What if he's a buddy or just scum that hasn't pounced on u yet?

also Elisa is voting me and I didn't call him scum.

Maybe it's you and Elsa then and nom is the one from the other team

It's just that I and Titus were voting you and then t3 said he's not town reading u or w/e qualifier and we just happened to be your 3 scum reads

you don't find it funny that t3 said he was do a meta drive on me then came back 5 mins later and said he couldn't find a scum game to compare this to. it's not hard. Cross roads isn't hidden

Not what I said. Look at this scum bucket trying to derail.

You are basically accusing him of blatantly lying about you not having a scum game or actually really looking and sure man he could do that but that doesn't make my statement inaccurate or anything

It doesn't so your saying a person who didn't vote me but acused me of not being town whom I scum read because he didn't really try to read any of my games. But you said I was reading everyone' who voted me as scum but the biggest hole in your play is t3 however me pointing it out doesn't make your statement inaccurate ok I get you not.

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I'll believe you have a "maythod" when you spell method right.

Keep the game to the game please no personal attcak on people's spelling thank you.

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As I said before bring it prove me as not town. I am actively trying to short and because I start out as everyone as scum and latter try to see why they are town doesn't mean I anit trying.

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Everyone is thinking I'm not touching this did he just refer to him self in 2and 3dr person lol

Not only that, but I can guarantee you no one is actually reading any of your back and forth with nero with more than a passing glance, you will never become the target of two nightkills, and that your scumreads will not be taken seriously.

Such is the way all my games go as I said I'm just having fun. And if I can make someone slip in the process then I'm doing good. Yes I'm s easy eliminated target throse that know this and push me are most likely not town throse that know it and don't push me are most likely town. So yes nom is most likely town.

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ive seen his town play and scum play recently this isn't there town play.

Does it look more like his scum play or is it something else?

Pretty sure gamma is town here they are more laid back as scum till end game.

When was the last time you saw Scum!Gamma make it to end game?? (In my experience, Scum Gamma gets eliminated on D1)

Pocketing other scum means they're less likely to shoot you.

Dafuq?? I spent like half an hour finding words to say this and you just put it out in one simple line!!

and cabd in yggdrasil felt like two very different people.

So, it's game tile. THANK YOU

look at my towns stumps scum gamma won

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Truth be told I see a lot of things going in very different directions, people entertaining vastly different tangents, going in very different directions and I go "argh" and skim through most of it.
I prefer when there are simple to follow discussions lol

The trick will be like that one game I played " I don't remember the name of this game" scum didn't know who each other were so we had to drop hints. For are partners to know who we were. So look for people dropping hints. Remember scum don't want to look like scum but they do have to catch each other's attention.

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Nom how many of my games have you read?

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I'm going slap someone if they don't read that major advice I just gave on catching scum.

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Truth be told I see a lot of things going in very different directions, people entertaining vastly different tangents, going in very different directions and I go "argh" and skim through most of it.
I prefer when there are simple to follow discussions lol

The trick will be like that one game I played " I don't remember the name of this game" scum didn't know who each other were so we had to drop hints. For are partners to know who we were. So look for people dropping hints. Remember scum don't want to look like scum but they do have to catch each other's attention.

Not sure who I helped here with this . I may have helped scum more. I was trying to help town with this.

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We all started saying I don't remember my name lol.

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VOTE: kitty are you trying to get someone's attention with that vote?

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Not_Mafia is trolling. Cyrus is sincere.

Click on my name go read the game marked I don't remember the name of this game. Scum have to catch each other's attention which I think kitty was trying to do with that vote on Elsa. You watch kitty . Okay

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Click on my name go read the game marked I don't remember the name of this game. Scum have to catch each other's attention which I think kitty was trying to do with that vote on Elsa. You watch kitty . Okay

Cyrus this is 2 scum teams who are against each other, not 3 scum and 3 traitors. The scum that belongs to the same team and win condition would know each other, unless there's a traitor. They have no interest in making each other known because they're against each other. I even asked the mod to clarify.

Yes so Elsa wagon may have a lot of scum on it. And FYI if I was scum I wouldn't be trying to help you. I would act like I am but let you hang your self.

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We might get lucky and they kill each other.

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Everyone is thinking I'm not touching this did he just refer to him self in 2and 3dr person lol

Not only that, but I can guarantee you no one is actually reading any of your back and forth with nero with more than a passing glance, you will never become the target of two nightkills, and that your scumreads will not be taken seriously.

Such is the way all my games go as I said I'm just having fun. And if I can make someone slip in the process then I'm doing good. Yes I'm s easy eliminated target throse that know this and push me are most likely not town throse that know it and don't push me are most likely town. So yes nom is most likely town.

I have limited patience for people whose play style is “I know I’m scummy and I refuse to do anything about it”

it's a good thing I anit here to impress you anit it. Other words get over your self. Ge can we just have fun.

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Lost for words

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How many haven't posted new?

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4 scum here how many votes on elsa and so quck?

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Everyone is thinking I'm not touching this did he just refer to him self in 2and 3dr person lol

Not only that, but I can guarantee you no one is actually reading any of your back and forth with nero with more than a passing glance, you will never become the target of two nightkills, and that your scumreads will not be taken seriously.

Such is the way all my games go as I said I'm just having fun. And if I can make someone slip in the process then I'm doing good. Yes I'm s easy eliminated target throse that know this and push me are most likely not town throse that know it and don't push me are most likely town. So yes nom is most likely town.

I have limited patience for people whose play style is “I know I’m scummy and I refuse to do anything about it”

it's a good thing I anit here to impress you anit it. Other words get over your self. Ge can we just have fun.

The thing is that “limited patience” tends to end in a vote on the person so you’d best not try me while there’s a wagon on you

That's a two edge sword my friend.

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Now I think hem is acting way off here then normal.

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I also don't like kitty's play quick vote then when I said why u had an isuse kitty moved on from the subject and didn't address it just droped vote and moved on. I hate lazy wagons. If it seems to easy Theresa reason behind it. 3 people haven't joined . Elas could be voted off with rvs votes. And only I'm saying something I don't know if he's town or not. But i am going to assume scum would fight harder.

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cyrus is town* brainfart

scum slip for nom if i ever seen one

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why is that a scum slip cyrus?

they dont make brain farts like that in any town game i have been with them in.

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We can have competeing wagons and I'm not in a rush to end the day phase

you say this but the elsa wagon doesn't worry you?

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Ignore cyrus. Please. It will make all of our lives easier.

im still waiting for that drive in to my scum games you said you were going to do.

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yea back track that if you took 5 mins to realy study my play you would see this is true town play i go after every one its how i make my reads.

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Ignore cyrus. Please. It will make all of our lives easier.

im still waiting for that drive in to my scum games you said you were going to do.

After [redacted].

and this is town? wouldn't town go the length and effort to short though even 1 scum game to compare my play here to? why not are you scared your see i dont play this way as scum. and your look bad for saying you couldn't find any. yes im a punk why cause this game i cant do nothing but hope i get it right and trust people to make the right calls.

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Recent scumgames.

i asure you i wish i could be as good as my best scum game hell everyone one thought i was town there. recent being the key word your have to wait okay i retract my scum lean. but will expecting this to be updated soon.

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Why would I be worried about the Elsa wagon?

there may or may not be 6 scum here

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@MOD

Setup Information

All scum parties are default-multitasking.
There are two scum parties.

The verbiage suggests there are multiple(2) anti-town factions consisting of more than one member. Could you confirm this is the case? If not, is it then a possibility that one "scum party" consists of a single member, i.e., what we'd think of as a traditional third party?

Can I take it to mean that "multitasking" means scum members can use both factional and active abilities at the same time? Otherwise, what does this mean?

Question 1: It is a possibility. Scum 'parties' indicate a multi-player party. You can't just go party with yourself, right?
Question 2: Yes. It means that scum party members can use their own abilities and the factional kill at the same time.

To clarify: 2 multi-player scum parties exist, but it is unknown whether a third-party exists.
It was stated that it would be multiball in signups.

someone asked

see

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Official Vote Count

Elsa Jay

(7): Dunnstral, ActionDan, nomnomnom, Almost50, humaneatingmonkey, KittyTacky, T3

cyrus62

(3): Titus, Elsa Jay, Nero Cain

Almost50

(2): NDMath, Gamma Emerald

KittyTacky

(1): cyrus62

humaneatingmonkey

(1): LuciferMorningStar

Gamma Emerald

(1): Iecerint

Not Voting

(2): Testarossa, Andresvmb

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to terminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-07-04 10:00:00)

there could be 3 scum on the wagon easily.

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cyrus spouts ridiculous and completely wrong theories regularly. His takes are usualy abhorrent. That is why cyrus is best read by intent and meta.

okay your town i dont think scum would do all that.

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so t3 since you took the time do you think maybe nom is trying to pocket me?

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yay i can use this now

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Gamma and Almost50 gives me scum theater vibes

the game where we both ruined (by SRing each other for -what turned out to be- playstyle differences) had just ended. Can we try again?

Which reminds me..

@cyrus: That game is over now. Can you state your meta case on HEM more clearly?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86913

in this game you will see hem jokes around alot at 1st then after 20 pages starts to pushing people . he doesn't just start pushing people like he has done this game so fast.

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Something is off about Titus in the last town game we had she didn't act like this.

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@mod can I ge a vote count

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Something is off about Titus in the last town game we had she didn't act like this.

How am I acting different?

you were a lot more laid back that game why so angry its just a game

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I'm not sure if I should be looking for 6 or 4 scum and I'm also not sure if scum might kill each other and there might be a vig so there maybe 4,3 or 2 nk . So we have to be exter careful who we vote other wise we may shape the game for scum and not know it

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Ummm not a fan of 636 and I don't think Titus is being angry?

are you cherry picking I was given my thoughts , on why we need to be careful . The mod it is know there is two sets of scum and its unknow if there's a 3dr.

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Well isn't it similar to your scum meta on him where you said he wants about quick hammers? Isn't it kinda similar that he's warning us to be extra careful who we vote and his earlier fear mongering that scum could be on elsa

this is so not town Nero I can't show why till ongoing game is over but I can say trust me.

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Nero knows how I play as scum and how I play as town and how I play as pr so his take here is way off.

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Meta is the best tbh

how many scum games of mine did you read?

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Nero knows how I play as scum and how I play as town and how I play as pr so his take here is way off.

this is a bad post Nero has never done a game with me as scum.

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What game did I play with scum u, Cyrus?

fixed it. Sorry.

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@t3 that one doesnt do me Justce if you want to realy want to read me go to my cross roas

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Roads

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Something is off about Titus in the last town game we had she didn't act like this.

If you're going to "meta hunt" all gam.. GOOD LUCK

its a new apporch

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cyrus confbias moment

huh I'm cunfused

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I stated why I find kitty scummy and also why I find tits . Nero is mostly nai but I can ask who does t3 help more breaking up fights that is why I town read t3.

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@t3 that one doesnt do me Justce if you want to realy want to read me go to my cross roas

So YOU can use one game to meta someone, but others can't do the same to you because it doesn't do you justice??

You know what? I'm leaving you be.

it's like this going by someone's worse scum game to see how one acts and going by the best gves you more range to go by. What else I can be a lot better as scum then that game. I didn't tell him not to use it I'm saying baseing ones read off of the worse game can have many flaws.

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A recent game.

don't give me that line your only as good as your last game you played.

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Defending people isn't one of my strong suits.

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Nom funny story icon said I tend to defend scum and don't even know it so maybe me trying to defend elsa means he's scum .

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I wouldn't surgest read list till d2 here it would just give scum more to work with.

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I know I look bad if jay flips scum but. Who looks bad if he flips town?

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I wouldn't surgest read list till d2 here it would just give scum more to work with.

cyrus I will nominate you for in the Scummies 2021. You are a true Paragon of Mafia Hunters.

well I'm mostly saying that cause out of 16 players I only have 4 town reads. A few scum leans and one of my scum leans has proven to be more town like then I thought .

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I wouldn't surgest read list till d2 here it would just give scum more to work with.

cyrus I will nominate you for in the Scummies 2021. You are a true Paragon of Mafia Hunters.

well I'm mostly saying that cause out of 16 players I only have 4 town reads. A few scum leans and one of my scum leans has proven to be more town like then I thought .

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I wouldn't surgest read list till d2 here it would just give scum more to work with.

cyrus I will nominate you for in the Scummies 2021. You are a true Paragon of Mafia Hunters.

well I'm mostly saying that cause out of 16 players I only have 4 town reads. A few scum leans and one of my scum leans has proven to be more town like then I thought .

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Wow how did I post 3times that fast

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I got post 777 which proves I'm good other wise I would have post 666.

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Hem we need to talk after this game I have a good role for you.u

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A recent game.

lol this proves t3 is scum he got post 666. Lol

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am i being cast in a movie

no it's a theme game I'm working on ,

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am i being cast in a movie

No it's a theme game I'm working on. The role fits you. I wanted former fish to play it but he's not been around.

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in all honesty if gamma votes off a scum i'll see them as town i think i have played with scum gamma back to back which is why i dont trust them.

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gamma mostly mingles with town but if given a chance will jump on easy wagons also finds the tinyest reasons to scum read people.

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not yet i dont but i bet i have two before this ends winks

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so enough of this talk till i can update it.

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thank you oh wise one

what do you feel about elsa, cyrus the prince of darkness?

lacking . reads are hollow but will see where it gos next im no longer defending him/her as i dont know if they are town or scum. kitty is exter lazy so i can see them as scum.

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the avatar got taking down because it had a slight bit of the rebel flag. town reads i rather not give scum targets but t3 nom hem and nero

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uuuuh I thought you had a scumread on me? What happened?

game play has changed. with both you and hem the way hem is questioning me shows the same town play . so if i have to change my mind there i have to change my mind else where. now that i look at neros play here i can see his exact same town play from the most recent game i played with him.

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i kinda want to see a kitty flip.

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What if Elsa flips town would t3 be scum?

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What if Elsa flips town would t3 be scum?

I thought that was implicit from what I said?

Reading setup reviews, a heavily gated neighborizer is often scum.

When did you read those reviews? Weren’t you busy?

I had been reading them for weeks before to learn about setup stuff. It's not a recent thing.

okay

Yeah on a second thought, just 1-for-1 the two of them.

Unless the mod is trolling us we are unlikely to have 2 town neighborizers.

Both can be scum though, from different teams if that's the case. So keep that in mind.

I hate these posts all bunched together like this
It’s a scummy sort of hate FYI

I have a problem with hitting the submit button too early and having to finish my thoughts in a second (or third, or fourth) post.

The multi post isn’t the issue. The issue is the set of thoughts expressed.

How so>

so you admit you don't know if either one is town or scum?

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Then it's easy dont vote either t3 or Elsa off we crumb who we want them to message and we find out who is lieing but if we must vote someone off vote kitty

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Who are we still waiting to see check in?

This feels like scum waning a quick mis elim

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So hope I'm right

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lol I don't know if I should vote jay or not what if they are town it's like playing in to scum? We vote off jay today and if they flip town ? Then what we vote off T3 d2 and what if they flip town by now we may have lost 3 town plus d1 so 4 town dead day 2 then 5 if t3 flip town 8 be before d3 9 left 4 or 6 scum left game over. So in going see if some one is scummyer then jay and vote them oh wait kitty for this whole plan . Looks like my votes in the right spot

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So she saved it to use it properly? The proper way to use it is to announce who you would be targeting, and she hasn't done that at all. Even if they were hiding the weak modifier, she hasn't even announced her target at all.

wouldnt scum kill her target ruining her one shot making her claim look fake? Sorry just thinking how I hander. prs as scum which is why I said chumb her target.

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Who are we still waiting to see check in?

This feels like scum waning a quick mis elim

More like I’m just feeling like we should just end the day because we’re probably elimming Elsa so a prolonged discussion is unhelpful

it helps town more. Maybe we can find other scum before we lose 2 to 4? Town?

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Age top master...

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Ok maybe jay is scum he messed up my page top post.

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If you wanna give me a target I'll pick either Titus, HEM, or nom.

why them?

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wouldnt scum kill her target ruining her one shot making her claim look fake? Sorry just thinking how I hander. prs as scum which is why I said chumb her target.

Her claim looks fake now. If her target dies, then nothing changes — she gets another shot until she dies or she dies from being weak. But the fact is, she's useless anyway if we don't know who she targeted. If she can show us that she crumbed or announced her target around the time she claimed, I might reconsider.

Just so you know I anit stoping you from voteing her off f you want to I'm just trying to avoid a mislim but it might not be I realy don't know I'm just saying make sure she's scum 1st

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now I think jay is scum. I just got a bad feeling like a can of worms ? Kill you to confirm he's town? No h no .

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Bad vibe gorse bumps.

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the only thing I agree with Cyrus about is that regardless of his alignment there is at least one scum team sitting on him.

sitting on who

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Who are we still waiting to see check in?

This feels like scum waning a quick mis elim

naw THIS feels like scum gearing up for a d2 gamma push

Who are we still waiting to see check in?

andre and the lucifer replace

No if I have my way day 1 won't end till everyone gets a good feel of each other.

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]95 to go I'm going get it lol.

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the only thing I agree with Cyrus about is that regardless of his alignment there is at least one scum team sitting on him.

sitting on who

elsa. Weren't you the guy that was fear-mongering an elsa wagon earlier?

yes why becuse only scum know who is scum and who is town but and here is where it gets tricky scum might not know who is scum. So how are you so sure Elsa will flip scum or town unless you have more information then me or others?

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90 to go I'll win the race

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No if I have my way day 1 won't end till everyone gets a good feel of each other.

feeling ppl without consent is a dick move.

good one lol you should save that

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Hey I just thought how can get scum to not nk me

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Dear scum I talk a lot so I make it easier to hide lol.

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We still haven't limmed Elsa?
God damn zzzzz

bwhyvare you so eager you haven't even posted much. So much for my earl town read.

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Do you real want night one over so fast?

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VOTE: jayI'm boned either way. So let's have a flip but don't blame me when Elsa flips town not that I think he is any more. With due to recent post.

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If you wanna give me a target I'll pick either Titus, HEM, or nom.

why them?

Because if I'm alive I wanna actually see if Monkey is legitimately like this all the time. That and when he kills me to confirm himself as town afterward he'll feel maybe slightly bad.

Because Titus so far hasn't done as much as I expected so confirming her (to me atleast) would do best. She's my least likely target tho.

Nom because frankly if I had to pick someone from the crowd, Nom seems cool so confirming him will be cool.

If you got a better target be my guest. I'm not making it to endgame but I just don't wanna die useless day 1. Just let me do SOMETHING good.

this doesn't sound
Ike town sounds more like a hit.

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Tbh I kinda got a off feeling about 300 post ago

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926 I'm getting it before day 1 is over

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I think that's e2 or e1 not sure

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My read on no nom has drop from town to nul I'm starting to feel like they may be scum but will watch close

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Quit it 1,000 is mine

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Gee I sweer you are all scum trying to steal my 1,000 post

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Lol

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I would love that role

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Damn getting on pc bring it

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yea well

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other people: NOOO YOU CAN'T WATCH THE GAME UNFOLD YOU MUST GIVE YOUR EVERY PASSING THOUGHT AND ANALYSIS TO THE THREAD NOOO SCUMMM
me: haha elsa wagon go brrrr

the problem is you weren't like this when you were town with me.

this is a large with people already doing a lot of work for me, I don't need to say much
in fact in the past I've made the mistake of talking way too much and making the thread about me in the process and that leads to serious disasters, so I've learned to not talk when people already do things for me and I just end up happy just putting my vote and things unfolding

This is scum sorry but the town nom talks a lot

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I'd argue nero has a chance to be a partner

b/c I didn't vote Elsa yet? b/c im pushing cyrus?

I'm going with Nero as scum last person action Dan spoke of before they died I'm also thinking gamma since they were flaged as well and that towny is also dead.

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I also thinking kitty funny kitty was the one pushing the wagon so hard and they are still alive

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T3

Almost50

Gamma Emerald

cyrus62

Titus

Arcangel9 (replaces LuciferMorningStar)

ActionDan

KittyTacky

Nero Cain

Testarossa

Andresvmb

NDMath

Iecerint

humaneatingmonkey

nomnomnom

Blue names are people who I have given me at least some reason to believe that they're not aligned with Elsa.

I am assuming 2 scum on each team, right now, but this doesn't get shaked up too hard even if there are 3.

That means that if I didn't false-clear anybody, Elsa's partner should be within this pool of 4:
[Gamma Emerald, Arcangel9, Andresvmp, iecerint]

Additionally, there's nothing preventing names on this list from being mafia of the opposite alignment. Meaning, mechanically, I think it makes the most sense to look here first.

My interpretation is that Andres and Arc are on the list because of their lack of presence and therefore you think the/a partner is probably within {Gamma, iecerint}. Essentially half of iecerint's iso is focusing on and mostly defending elsa, I would definitely look there before gamma.
I'd need to spend some time looking at each individual players interactions with ej before I can confidently agree with your association pool, but I am leaning that way.

pretty sure nd math didn't tr you

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T3

Almost50

Gamma Emerald

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Titus

Arcangel9 (replaces LuciferMorningStar)

ActionDan

KittyTacky

Nero Cain

Testarossa

Andresvmb

NDMath

Iecerint

humaneatingmonkey

nomnomnom

Blue names are people who I have given me at least some reason to believe that they're not aligned with Elsa.

I am assuming 2 scum on each team, right now, but this doesn't get shaked up too hard even if there are 3.

That means that if I didn't false-clear anybody, Elsa's partner should be within this pool of 4:
[Gamma Emerald, Arcangel9, Andresvmp, iecerint]

Additionally, there's nothing preventing names on this list from being mafia of the opposite alignment. Meaning, mechanically, I think it makes the most sense to look here first.

My interpretation is that Andres and Arc are on the list because of their lack of presence and therefore you think the/a partner is probably within {Gamma, iecerint}. Essentially half of iecerint's iso is focusing on and mostly defending elsa, I would definitely look there before gamma.
I'd need to spend some time looking at each individual players interactions with ej before I can confidently agree with your association pool, but I am leaning that way.

pretty sure nd math didn't tr you

he suspected iecerint more, which I will admit has been a reason I have used before to explain away a NK that looked bad for me
but the real reason I called that out was because you were specifically analyzing the

ActionDan

kill. So nice try moving the goalposts bub.

no you misunderstand I said Nero becuse of Dan and I was sue of gamma to becuse the towny who flagged her was also dead I didn't say Dan flagged you I pointed ndmath who did flag you.

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I'd argue nero has a chance to be a partner

b/c I didn't vote Elsa yet? b/c im pushing cyrus?

I'm going with Nero as scum last person action Dan spoke of before they died I'm also thinking gamma since they were flaged as well and that towny is also dead.

See where did I say Dan flaged you here

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VOTE: gamma I will place this here. And let others decicd .

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I have played very far above the radar, currently being number 3 in posts
compare to townstumps where I was willing to kinda play more subtly at points, and then factor in multiball and the fact that as scum I would want to avoid attention even more than regular
I understand you don't "get" multiball but imo playing as I have in multiball as scum is absolutely fucking stupid play.
Also, if I was Elsa's partner I would have to be the shittiest scum partner to have ever existed, because my god I did nothing to stop people from walking all over him.

This worked for dw in scamming mini . He didn't bother to help me as a result we won.

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It's usually safe to assume scum woill have the same things. Elsa is a 1-shot Neighborizer, I'm a 2-shot.

You mean like a 1 shot gs v 2 shot cop?

I would assume gun smith helps scum more then town.

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Arc hasting posted today and didn't post till end of day. So I am sus of them also gamma scum tel was revealed in town strumps and I think this fit it. The only one more scummy is kitty

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Arc hasting posted today and didn't post till end of day. So I am sus of them also gamma scum tel was revealed in town strumps and I think this fit it. The only one more scummy is kitty

Can you rephrase this? It's hard to follow.

hasn't I ment to say hasn't .

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I rather vote off kitty then gamma but I don't think a kitty wagon is happening.

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I real dislike huge walls of post . I am not being clumsy I stick to my reads till proven other wise it is no secret that I scum read gamma Nero or kitty day1 and I haven't seen no post worthy to change my mind besides nero I'm on the fence with him unless I see some one scummyer . Right now I could see arc being scum why haven't they posted besides end of d1

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Dunnstral wagon is stupid. Get out of there!

i interested to know why gamma claimed. i am tempted to join his wagon.

kitty wagon is better then kitty but not enough are feeling kitty is scum but gamma is my 2nd highest scum read

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Shouldn't this say d3

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Kitty lived agin I think they are scum

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I think you should green Dunn given nomnomnom's resistance to the Dunn wagon.

If we do hunt there, I am fine with either but prefer Cyrus.

ofc you are VOTE: titus so the reason you killed nom over me is im easyer miselim

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im not a mason im just vt so good luck with that.

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.... i wonder if getting my self elim is rule breaking most likely. game has become steal which is boring for me since im just vt.

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I have to give Titus town points for this. Read change but will hang back on calling her town just yet becuse her read on Nero is only due to a guilty . Pre edit: then either kitty or Andre are scum . Note Andre hasn't done much d1 or d2 so that is scum there kitty has lived to d3 so that is scum there . So new Poe is kitty and Andre

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I'm scum

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Lmao

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How dose a mass claim help town wouldn't every one claim vt any way including scum? And out the rest of prs

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Can we just vote hem or Titus, neither are town

So are you going to say you,kitty and Andre are all town and we shouldn't hunt there??

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No, why would I say that?

Then how do you know Titus and hem are scum.

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Wondering f maybe we should ignore kitty's last post and move in

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I ment On not in .damn auto correct

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So we know of scum hood wolf hood and maybe the nigebor hood is both town wolf and scum f this is right that means between Nero kitty and Andes we have a wolf, a scum and a town anders I think is scum kitty wolf and maybe Nero is town. As for rest test I think is scum hem is wolf these are my solves ps I'm open for ideas.

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Cyrus your solve is incomplete without arc and titus

Thanks could you fix to read better I'm on the phone for a bit.

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So we know of scum hood wolf hood and maybe the nigebor hood is both town wolf and scum f this is right that means between Nero kitty and Andes we have a wolf, a scum and a town anders I think is scum kitty wolf and maybe Nero is town. As for rest test I think is scum hem is wolf these are my solves ps I'm open for ideas.

so we know of the scum hood. The wearwovles and.

Now we just found out about the nigebor hood which is nwg boy Nero and Andes out of throse three.


I think Nero is town

Andes is scum


And nwg boy is a wolf.

Arc is scum and Titus is wolf

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This is my solve . If any one has better reads on who is scum . Ps if your hoping to prove your town by town reading people here's a hint it's easy to town read as scum. I'm trying to find out who is scum or wolf not who is town.becuse finding town helps them not shut each other.

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So we know of scum hood wolf hood and maybe the nigebor hood is both town wolf and scum f this is right that means between Nero kitty and Andes we have a wolf, a scum and a town anders I think is scum kitty wolf and maybe Nero is town. As for rest test I think is scum hem is wolf these are my solves ps I'm open for ideas.

so we know of the scum hood. The wearwovles and.

Now we just found out about the nigebor hood which is kittys replacentment Nero and Andes out of throse three.


I think Nero is town

Andes is scum


And kittys replace ment is aw wolf.

Arc is scum and Titus is wolf

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Yep anders is scum or ww but I still say kitty as well I think Nero is showing good faith here.

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VOTE: arc I would much rather u hunt in the hood.

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im here

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Dw is scum for sure . 3 neighbors the wiki said if there is 3 there's a good chance 1 of the three is scum. As I said I rather hunt in the hood but now it feels like dw is trying to deflect away from arc.

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Cyrus I'm sorry you rolled scum this game

This proves dw is scum thank you for making it easy

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Town dw would reread the game and see my play here is the exact same it's always been.

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Scum dw would look for easy pushes like he's doing now.

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Test is flipping scum here, we will hash this conversation out tomorrow don't worry.

I'm not conviced he is scum.

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I ISO'd you and didn't like your first ten posts. I'm not reading the entire game 60 pages in. It would do me literally 0 good.

its okay if your not town this time kitty give you away.

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Also HEM put it well enough. Test is scum because she is a full role cop. She is claiming Titus is also one in an extremely shady manner after having no crumb or real push of it. She might as well be congscum here.

Hem has been off this game. I wouldn't be supine do if hem was ww or scum as well.

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Dw if your conviced I'm scum get me voted off but if I flip town your a fast elim tomorrow . Unless your not wiling to make that bet since you know I will flip town. Let's look nom said I was town he was mason Dan said it t3 said it all the dead town said I was town and now even Nero knows I'm town.

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Get me to e1 and I'll hammer

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1.) Even if I were scum I wouldn't know you're town
2.) We are getting test today because she might as well be confscum.

now that is not true I think this is a slip scum know town and ww know town they just don't know ww. Just like ww don't know scum.

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Do you think that the mafia/werewolves are informed of every town player in the game?

Not of prs but the way they pr hunting I wouldn't be surprised if they were .

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Both of the role cop claims concern me, realistically only 1 is scum, probably
HEM claiming bulletproof sounds like a scum fake claim

I trust your reads I been getting bad vibes from hem all day.