Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

fferyllt · Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:44 am

Newbie 2067 - The Sandwich Debate

Moderator: fferyllt
Backup Moderator: Cabd

It started with a simple question and inevitably grew into a controversy, and has even spawned a General Field Theory. In this game we'll explore the deep philosophical question: What is a Sandwich?

The flavor is purely for your enjoyment (and mine!), and has no effect whatsoever on the NewD3 newbie game setup and rules.

Player List (9)

HockeyFan

cowsloveSushirolls

ManateeDude

GrandpaMo

JamesTheNames

Clasko

Beesechurger

Looker

StrangeMatter, Rocky14

T3

(SE)

petapan

VFP

(SE)

Lady Lambdadelta

The Bulge (SE)

bold

= confirmed
* = prod

Spoiler: Alive

Spoiler: Dead

Spoiler: Banished

Spoiler: Vote Counter Settings

fferyllt · Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:12 am

Setup Info

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

fferyllt · Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:13 am

Rules:

In-Game Behavior

1.

Site Rules are in effect. Please familiarize yourself and follow them.

2. Posts consisting purely of insults without game content are not tolerated. I penalize such posts with a strike. Three strikes and you're out. Severe issues will be reported to the listmods.

3. Claiming scum is allowed. Claiming scum with another player (whether as a joke or not) will result in severe consequences for you, and consequences for your team.

4. Play towards your win condition. Gambits are fine, directly harming your own team is not.

5. Loophole abuse is not tolerated.

6. Have fun! There are a lot of great people who play, discuss mafia game theory and practice, and discuss life, the universe and everything, too, here at Mafiascum.net. During and after this game, please take a look around the site and get to know us. I think you'll like what you see.

Voting and Deadlines:

1. Voting must be bolded in the form

Vote: Player

- bold tags

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Player[/b]

or

VOTE: Player vote tags

Code: Select all

[vote]Player[/vote]

or else they will not be counted. Unvotes are not required to change your vote, but they are helpful. Please note: I'm using an automated vote counter.

If you don't use the vote tags, be sure to add a colon after the word "Vote".

2. Votes inside of spoiler tags will not be counted.

3. I don't mind if you use nicknames/abbreviations when you vote someone. But if I have no idea who you're voting for, then the vote won't be counted. Please note: the vote counting application may be more finicky about nicknames than I am. If you notice that your vote hasn't been recorded, please let me know.

4. Eliminations require a majority of votes: (number of living players/2) +1, rounded down.

5. If there's no majority at deadline, there's no elimination.

6. When the hammer vote is cast, all players, including the eliminated may talk freely until the final vote count and eliminated player's card-flip have been posted. I will lock the game thread at that time.

6. Once you are dead, you may not post in the game thread again. Not even a "Bah" post.

7. Deadlines are set at 10 days on Day 1 and 7 days for subsequent game days. and Extensions may be granted if there are replacements near deadline, or under other extraordinary circumstances (e.g., site outages, major holidays).

Prods and Replacements:

Replacing Out

If you need to replace out of this game, send me a private message about it. Do NOT post that you want to be replaced, or that you have asked to be replaced in the game thread.
I will acknowledge your replacement request by replying to your PM. From that time forward, you are out of the game. Do not make any posts in the game thread.

This is a site rule that can entail penalties if broken. It applies to all mafia games at Mafiascum.net unless the game moderator explicitly states otherwise.

1. Prods will be given if you do not post in

36 hours

.

2. You will be replaced if you either do not respond to a prod, or need to be prodded more than 3 times total. You may request for a player to be prodded at any time. Prods requested when a player has been absent for less than 36 hours do not count for replacement purposes.

3. If you are V/LA (on vacation/have limited access), make sure I know. If you are V/LA for more than a week, I suggest requesting replacement, but it's not required. If a lengthy V/LA is adversely affecting the game (e.g., if you are not able to post minimally during that time), then your mod may replace you.without penalty.

Misc.

1. Dark Blue (#004080) is the color I will use for mod posts. Please don’t use this color or otherwise try to make your posts look like mod posts.

2. You can talk about the game in the private threads given to you via PM, assuming you were given one. Otherwise, please refrain from talking about this game outside of this thread, and don't talk about other games inside of this game. This is a sitewide rule. See announcement here.

3. No editing, deleting, using invisible texts, write in code, using font sizes less than 70, etc...

4. Don't quote or talk about any mod-recieved PMs. Your flavor is for you to enjoy and you only, until the end of the game.

5. Vocaroos, Youtubes, etc, may not be used to make game-content posts. e.g., do not record a vacoroo with your thoughts about the game and post it.

6. I make mistakes. If you notice I make one, please let me know.

7. Questions are vastly preferable to Modkills. If you're thinking about to do something that you're unsure is within the letter or spirit of these rules and the game of mafia, then ask me privately about it first.

fferyllt · Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:14 am

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

fferyllt · Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:15 am

This is the Pregame Phase. I'll send out Role Private Messages (PMs) during the next few hours. Please respond to your Role PM with your alignment (Town or Mafia) and Role Name to confirm that you have received it.

You have 48 hours from the time I send you the Role PM to respond. If you cannot respond by then, I will seek a replacement.

Once 8 of the 9 players have confirmed via PM reply, OR 48 hours after all Role PMs have been sent, whichever comes first, the game will begin!

I'll update this post as we progress through Pregame.

All Role PMs

will go out shortly!

have gone out!

8 of 9 players have confirmed!

Day 1 will start momentarily!

fferyllt · Post Post #5 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:20 am

Vote Count 1-1

Day 1 Begins!

Such a simple question!

Not Voting

(9): cowsloveSushirolls, Rocky14, The Bulge, T3, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, JamesTheNames, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Beesechurger has 48 hours in which to post before I must seek a replacement.
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fferyllt · Post Post #25 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:37 am

Vote Count 1-2

Day 1 Begins!

Although John Montagu (1718-1792), the 4th Earl of Sandwich, is credited with the invention of the sandwich, the story is a little complicated.

Rocky14

(1): JamesTheNames

HockeyFan

(1): cowsloveSushirolls

GrandpaMo

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(6): Rocky14, The Bulge, T3, GrandpaMo, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Beesechurger has (expired on 2021-07-05 13:20:00) in which to post before I must seek a replacement.
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fferyllt · Post Post #50 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:56 am

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“A minister of state passed four and twenty hours at a public gaming-table, so absorpt in play that, during the whole time, he had no subsistence but a bit of beef, between two slices of toasted bread, which he eat without ever quitting the game. This new dish grew highly in vogue, during my residence in London: it was called by the name of the minister who invented it.”
-- from Grosley’s Tour to London

HockeyFan

(2): cowsloveSushirolls, JamesTheNames

GrandpaMo

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(6): Rocky14, The Bulge, T3, GrandpaMo, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Beesechurger has (expired on 2021-07-05 13:20:00) in which to post before I must seek a replacement.
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fferyllt · Post Post #91 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:32 am

In post 83, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:oh yeah @mod, on post 1 the game is labelled "pizza"

unless this is some kind of statement you are making

is pizza a sandwich? :OOOO

Fixed, thanks! And maaaaybe!

fferyllt · Post Post #100 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:35 am

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Although the sandwich is attributed to the Earl of Sandwich, he was not the inventor. Before the Earl's famous gambling spree, it was simply known as “bread and meat” or “bread and cheese”

HockeyFan

(2): cowsloveSushirolls, JamesTheNames

GrandpaMo

(2): HockeyFan, Rocky14

JamesTheNames

(1): GrandpaMo

Not Voting

(4): The Bulge, VFP, T3, Beesechurger

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Beesechurger has (expired on 2021-07-05 13:20:00) in which to post before I must seek a replacement.
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fferyllt · Post Post #149 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:24 am

allez!

fferyllt · Post Post #150 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:24 am

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The filling of this "bread and meat" combination is from some medieval recipes. The filling consists of roast pork loin, mushrooms, onions, eggs and mild white cheese.

GrandpaMo

(2): HockeyFan, Rocky14

HockeyFan

(2): cowsloveSushirolls, JamesTheNames

JamesTheNames

(1): GrandpaMo

VFP

(1): The Bulge

Not Voting

(3): T3, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Beesechurger has (expired on 2021-07-05 13:20:00) in which to post before I must seek a replacement.
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fferyllt · Post Post #224 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:32 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #225 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:32 pm

Vote Count 1-5

The earliest recognizable form of a sandwich may be the Korech or “Hillel sandwich” that is eaten during Jewish Passover. Hillel the Elder, a Jewish leader and rabbi who lived in Jerusalem during the time of King Herod (circa 110 BC), first suggested eating bitter herbs inside unleavened matzo bread. According to Hillel the Elder, the herbs symbolized the bitterness of slavery, and the bread resembled the flatbreads made in haste by the ancient Israelites as they fled Egypt. Hillel’s simple recommendation of sandwiching the two foods together may indicate that this was already a popular way of serving food in the Middle East.

HockeyFan

(1): JamesTheNames

GrandpaMo

(1): HockeyFan

JamesTheNames

(1): GrandpaMo

VFP

(1): The Bulge

Not Voting

(5): cowsloveSushirolls, Rocky14, T3, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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fferyllt · Post Post #285 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:50 pm

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During the Middle Ages, people ate not from plates, but blocks of stale bread known as trenchers. Along with other foods, meats with sauce were piled on top of the trenchers and eaten with the fingers. The trencher would soak up the excess juices due to its thick and absorbent texture, and would be eaten if the diner was still hungry at the end of the meal. Trenchers were a cross between sort of messy open-faced sandwiches and bread soup-bowls.

HockeyFan

(2): JamesTheNames, T3

GrandpaMo

(2): HockeyFan, cowsloveSushirolls

T3

(1): GrandpaMo

VFP

(1): The Bulge

Not Voting

(3): Rocky14, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Prods will go out in a few hours, if needed.
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fferyllt · Post Post #296 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:20 am

Beesechurger, Rocky14 and The Bulge have been prodded.

fferyllt · Post Post #324 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:22 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #325 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:23 pm

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From trencher to smørrebrød was easily accomplished in Denmark. Danish farmers would pack numerous leftovers from dinner the night beforehand and place them on a trencher, and then take the loaded trenchers into the fields for their midday meal. Smørrebrød translates to "buttered bread", and thick, dense Danish rye bread was buttered to help prevent the juices of the meal piled on top of them from soaking through. It wasn't until the 19th century that the smørrebrød made its way into the hearts and stomachs of Danish city folk.

HockeyFan

(2): JamesTheNames, T3

GrandpaMo

(2): HockeyFan, cowsloveSushirolls

VFP

(1): The Bulge

Not Voting

(4): Rocky14, GrandpaMo, Beesechurger, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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fferyllt · Post Post #334 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:24 am

Searching for a replacement for Rocky14.

fferyllt · Post Post #369 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:20 pm

StrangeMatter replaces Rocky14. Please welcome them!

fferyllt · Post Post #401 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 am

Beesechurger has been prodded.

Cabd will be stepping in to mod for a short while. There's been a death in my family. Thanks in advance for your patience with me the next day or so.

fferyllt · Post Post #457 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:33 am

Searching for a replacement for Beesechurger

fferyllt · Post Post #461 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:50 am

Beesechurger can stay in the game.

fferyllt · Post Post #475 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:28 am

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By the time of the Revolutionary War, the sandwich was well established in England, and we can assume the same in the Colonies. While no one noted the date a sandwich was first served in the U.S., in 1837, Eliza Leslie was the first person to publish a recipe, in Miss Leslie’s Directions For Cookery. One of the sandwiches remains popular today: a ham sandwich with mustard on lightly buttered bread.

GrandpaMo

(2): HockeyFan, cowsloveSushirolls

VFP

(2): The Bulge, T3

cowsloveSushirolls

(1): JamesTheNames

T3

(1): VFP

Not Voting

(3): StrangeMatter, GrandpaMo, Beesechurger

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

VFP is v/la through 7/11
fferyllt-Cabd combined ISO for vote counts
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fferyllt · Post Post #510 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:22 am

Mention of ongoing games is strictly not allowed. Sitewide rule is here

fferyllt · Post Post #523 (isolation #25) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:04 pm

fferyllt · Post Post #524 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:04 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #525 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:04 pm

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A Pheasant Sandwich

In 19th Century England, the sandwich became a fancy feast. The practice of serving sandwiches, including elaborate presentations of poached fillet of pheasant and guinea hen, soon became a popular late-night meal at society balls. During the nineteenth century, lunch (called midday dinner) was the main meal of the day; dinner (then called supper) was a lighter meal where the leftovers from lunch were often made into sandwiches.

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

GrandpaMo

(1): HockeyFan

VFP

(1): T3

Not Voting

(5): cowsloveSushirolls, The Bulge, StrangeMatter, GrandpaMo, Beesechurger

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-13 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

VFP is v/la through 7/11
fferyllt-Cabd combined ISO for vote counts
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fferyllt · Post Post #532 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:44 pm

Searching for a replacement for Beezechurger.

Deadline countdown is paused at 3 days until a replacement is found.

fferyllt · Post Post #542 (isolation #29) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:38 am

StrangeMatter has requested replacement...searching.

fferyllt · Post Post #556 (isolation #30) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:16 pm

Clasko replaces Beesechurger. Please welcome him!

Still searching for a replacment for StrangeMatter. Once that slot is filled I will set a new deadline.

fferyllt · Post Post #559 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:18 pm

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Tea Sandwiches

Charlotte Mason, a Victorian author, wrote several cookbook recipes for sandwiches and recommended that the crusts be removed from the bread. Inspired by these finger-food style recipes, sandwiches were popular items at teas and picnics. They also became common fare at taverns and train stations.

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

HockeyFan

(1): cowsloveSushirolls

GrandpaMo

(1): HockeyFan

VFP

(1): T3

Not Voting

(4): The Bulge, GrandpaMo, Clasko, StrangeMatter

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline is paused at 3 days until a replacement for StrangeMatter is found

Mod Notes:

VFP is v/la through 7/11
fferyllt-Cabd combined ISO for vote counts
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fferyllt · Post Post #596 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:46 am

Looker replaces StrangeMatter. Please welcome him!

New Deadline: July 16, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-15 21:00:00)

fferyllt · Post Post #599 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:55 am

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #600 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:55 am

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A San Francisco style oyster loaf

Aross the pond, in New Orleans, a sandwich called the oyster loaf made its appearance in the late 1800s. As the name suggests, the sandwich consisted of fried oysters in a hollowed out loaf of french bread. A rival legend places the origin of the oyster loaf in San Francisco.

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

cowsloveSushirolls

(1): HockeyFan

HockeyFan

(1): T3

Not Voting

(5): cowsloveSushirolls, The Bulge, Looker, Clasko, GrandpaMo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

New Deadline: July 16, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-15 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #626 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:38 pm

Vote Count 1-12

A New Orleans style fried shrimp Po-Boy.

At the turn of the century on the Gulf Coast, 25 cents would buy -- not a dozen -- ONE HUNDRED oysters. A hollowed out loaf of French bread would hold about a dozen fried oysters. In the mid-1910s, two brothers named Bennie and Clovis Martin moved to New Orleans to work as streetcar conductors. In 1922, the brothers then decided to open up their own restaurant, Martin Brothers' Coffee Stand and Restaurant, specializing in French loaf sandwiches with anything you wanted on them. In 1929, these sandwiches became known as po-boys. Members of the Amalgamated Association of Street and Electric Railway Employees of America, Division No. 194, went on a four-month- long strike. Over a thousand union streetcar workers had no source of income during the strike. The Martin brothers, to show their support for the workers affected by this strike, wrote a letter to one of the local newspapers, stating that they would give a free meal to any members of Division 194. Legend has it that when the brothers saw one of the union workers walk into their restaurant, one of them would yell, "Here comes another poor boy!" Since the free meal given to these workers often included the customary sandwich, the name "poor boy" gradually became associated with the sandwich itself.

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

cowsloveSushirolls

(1): HockeyFan

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

VFP

(1): T3

Not Voting

(4): cowsloveSushirolls, The Bulge, Looker, Clasko

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 16, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-15 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #637 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:19 am

The Bulge has requested replacement. Searching...

Deadline paused.

fferyllt · Post Post #646 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:38 am

In post 596, fferyllt wrote:
Looker replaces StrangeMatter. Please welcome him!

New Deadline: July 16, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-15 21:00:00)

Due to a user error my part, Looker didn't get the role PM until just now. Apologies to all!

fferyllt · Post Post #662 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:45 am

Lady Lambdadelta replaces The Bulge. Please welcome her!

fferyllt · Post Post #686 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:41 pm

Vote Count 1-12

Peanut-Carrot sandwich

During the 1930s the way people ate and cooked changed dramatically. Poverty, mass migrations, and streamlined food production and preservation brought inexpensive, on-the-go foods into daily life for most Americans. Roadside hamburger stands and diners selling “blue plate specials” became common during this decade. And the sandwiches were...something else. Florence Cowles, author of the 1936 cookbook,

1001 Sandwiches

, preserved our knowledge of some sandwiches we'd probably be perfectly happy not to learn about. For instance: “Mysteries” is a recipe for an open-face sandwich as follows, “Chop coarsely equal parts of raw carrots and salted peanuts. Mix with mayonnaise and spread on rounds of bread, decorating with slices of stuffed olives or small pickles.”

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

cowsloveSushirolls

(1): HockeyFan

Lady Lambdadelta

(1): Clasko

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

VFP

(1): T3

Not Voting

(3): cowsloveSushirolls, Lady Lambdadelta, Looker

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #723 (isolation #40) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:11 pm

fferyllt · Post Post #724 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:11 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #725 (isolation #42) » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:12 pm

Vote Count 1-13

Corn Sandwich

One more Depression era sandwich because they're simply stunning and not necessarily in a great way. I promise I'll move along!

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

VFP

(2): Looker, T3

cowsloveSushirolls

(1): HockeyFan

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

Lady Lambdadelta

(1): Clasko

Not Voting

(2): cowsloveSushirolls, Lady Lambdadelta

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #749 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:18 am

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #750 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:18 am

Vote Count 1-14

The Club Sandwich is thought to have originated at a gambling club, Morrissey’s Club House, in Saratoga, New York. What is it about sandwiches and gambling, anyway? The first club sandwich recipe was published in the

Good Housekeeping Everyday Cook Book

, by Isabel Gordon Curtis in 1903. The recipe reads: Toast a slice of bread evenly and lightly butter it. On one half put, first, a thin slice of bacon which has been broiled till dry and tender, next a slice of the white meat of either turkey or chicken. Over one half of this place a circle cut from a ripe tomato and over the other half a tender leaf of lettuce. Cover these with a generous layer of mayonnaise, and complete this delicious “whole meal” sandwich with the remaining piece of toast. The double decker club we know and love was a later innovation. Potato chips also originated at this club!

VFP

(3): Looker, T3, HockeyFan

T3

(2): VFP, JamesTheNames

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

Lady Lambdadelta

(1): Clasko

Not Voting

(2): cowsloveSushirolls, Lady Lambdadelta

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #807 (isolation #45) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:12 am

Vote Count 1-15

The history of the Reuben sandwich is somewhat contested. There is some evidence that the first Reuben was served at the Blackstone Hotel in Omaha, Nebraska that hosted a (yes, once again) gambling club. and also that Reuben's Restaurant in New York was the birthplace of the sandwich. By the 1940s, there are menus from both restaurants that feature the Reuben as it is known today: corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, and Russian dressing, grilled between slices of rye bread.

T3

(3): VFP, JamesTheNames, cowsloveSushirolls

VFP

(2): Looker, HockeyFan

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

JamesTheNames

(1): T3

Not Voting

(2): Clasko, Lady Lambdadelta

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #843 (isolation #46) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:28 am

Lady Lambdadelta has been prodded.

fferyllt · Post Post #849 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:37 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #850 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:37 pm

Vote Count 1-16

East met West in Fall River Massachusetts in the 1920s. This is when the Chow Mien Sandwich became a thing. The sandwich went on to feature at lunch counters, canteens and school cafeterias in Massachussets and beyond.

JamesTheNames

(3): T3, VFP, Lady Lambdadelta

T3

(2): JamesTheNames, cowsloveSushirolls

VFP

(2): Looker, HockeyFan

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

Not Voting

(1): Clasko

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #852 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:26 pm

oops! fixed!

fferyllt · Post Post #879 (isolation #50) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:14 pm

Vote Count 1-17

Perhaps the most iconic of American sandwiches is one of the least self-important. Though it didn't start out that way. It started with high society fancy cut tea sandwiches. In the late 1800s there was a health craze and some gurus were hawking a wonderful new plant-based alternative to butter. And so it was. Instead of buttering the sandwich bread before loading it with tasty fillings, sandwich chefs used peanut butter. It was a few years before peanut butter's perfect accompaniment, jelly was celebrated.

JamesTheNames

(5): T3, VFP, Lady Lambdadelta, Clasko, HockeyFan

T3

(2): JamesTheNames, cowsloveSushirolls

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

VFP

(1): Looker

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

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An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

fferyllt · Post Post #880 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:21 pm

JamesTheNames was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 1 begins now. Night actions are due on Monday, July 19 Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-19 09:00:00)

fferyllt · Post Post #881 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:03 am

cowsloveSushirolls died last night. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

fferyllt · Post Post #882 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:05 am

Vote Count 2-1

Day 2 Begins!

We'll never know for sure which came first: toast or the toasted sandwich, but I'm going with toast. Of the many ways we could subdivide sandwiches into types, hot versus cold is a key one. Today is dedicated to the art and industry of hot sandwiches.

Not Voting

(7): looker, Lady Lambdadelta, T3, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, Clasko, VFP

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 26, 1 PM US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-26 10:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #910 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:57 am

Vote Count 2-2

A big step up from bread-on-a-stick, the jaffle iron is a Australian invention designed to make grilling or toasting a sandwich over an open fire safe and easy. It was patented in 1949 and became a beloved household item. The jaffle iron seals the edges of the sandwich to hold in the hot filling, so the sandwich resembles a sort of pie or tart.

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(6): Looker, Clasko, T3, Lady Lambdadelta, GrandpaMo, VFP

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 26, 1 PM US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-26 10:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #949 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:28 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #950 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:28 pm

Vote Count 2-3

What fillings go in a jaffle? Pretty much whatever you'd like. The ingredients can be much wetter than a regular sandwich because of the sealed edges. But any hot sandwich ingredients work in a jaffle.

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(6): Looker, Clasko, T3, Lady Lambdadelta, GrandpaMo, VFP

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 26, 1 PM US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-26 10:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #961 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:16 am

VFP has been prodded.

fferyllt · Post Post #983 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:15 am

VFP has requested replacement. Searching...

fferyllt · Post Post #984 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:37 am

petapan replaces VFP. Please welcome him!

fferyllt · Post Post #1023 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:59 pm

fferyllt · Post Post #1024 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:59 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #1025 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:59 pm

Vote Count 2-5

This one is stuffed with hallioumi and harissa paste. Hallioumi has a higher melting point than most cheeses. Sign me up!

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

T3

(1): T3

Not Voting

(5): Looker, Clasko, Lady Lambdadelta, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 26, 1 PM US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-26 10:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1048 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:44 am

fferyllt · Post Post #1049 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:45 am

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #1050 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:45 am

Vote Count 2-6

In the general scheme of hot sandwich making, "seal it and slice it" sandwich makers are somewhat niche. The vast majority of sandwich appliances press down on the sandwich and its fillings and grill the bread. Many are multi-function with grill plates for waffles, too.

Looker

(2): HockeyFan, T3

Not Voting

(5): Looker, Clasko, Lady Lambdadelta, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: July 26, 1 PM US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-26 10:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1061 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:36 pm

Vote Count 2-7

Bahn mi is a Vietnamese hot sandwich made with chicken and lots of pickled vegetables, typically carrots, daikon, onion, pickled or fresh hot chilies, cilantro and a squeeze of lime.

T3

(4): Lady Lambdadelta, petapan, T3, Looker

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(2): Clasko, GrandpaMo

Deadline: July 26, 1 PM US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-26 10:00:00)

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An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

fferyllt · Post Post #1062 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:42 pm

T3 was a

Mafia Goon

.

Night 2 begins now. Night actions are due on Monday, July 26, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-25 21:00:00)

fferyllt · Post Post #1063 (isolation #68) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:00 pm

Clasko died last night. He was a

Town Cop

.

fferyllt · Post Post #1064 (isolation #69) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:00 pm

Vote Count 3-1

Day 3 Begins!

Most countries have a -- or several -- hot sandwiches for which they are famous. Portugal's Francesinha features ham and sausage as the filling, is topped with melted cheese and a fried egg, and is smothered with tomato-and-beer gravy.

Not Voting

(5): looker, Lady Lambdadelta, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1085 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:16 pm

Vote Count 3-2

Is this a sandwich?

Not Voting

(5): Looker, Lady Lambdadelta, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1093 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:24 am

GrandpaMo and petapan have been prodded.

fferyllt · Post Post #1104 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:49 am

Vote Count 3-3

This is a Croque Madame. As the name suggests, this sandwich originates in France. The sandwich filling is ham, Gruyere cheese and Dijon mustard. Bechamel sauce is ladled over the bread and topped with cheese. The sandwich is baked to melt the cheese, and garnished with a fried egg and fresh thyme before serving.

Not Voting

(5): Looker, Lady Lambdadelta, HockeyFan, GrandpaMo, petapan

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1110 (isolation #73) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:40 am

Searching for a replacement for GrandpaMo.

fferyllt · Post Post #1124 (isolation #74) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:12 pm

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #1125 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:12 pm

Vote Count 3-4

Is this a sandwich?

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

HockeyFan

(1): petapan

Not Voting

(3): GrandpaMo, Looker, Lady Lambdadelta

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1129 (isolation #76) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 am

Vote Count 3.5

This is a Morrocan grilled chicken sandwich with preserved lemon tapenade, pickled red onions, spicy harissa mayo and baby spinach. The chicken is cubed, marinated in Morrocan spices, skewered and grilled.

HockeyFan

(3): petapan, Lady Lambdadelta, Looker

Looker

(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting

(1): GrandpaMo

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

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An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

fferyllt · Post Post #1130 (isolation #77) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:14 am

HockeyFan was a

Vanilla Townie

.

The deadline for Night 3's end will be set as soon as I have found a replacement for GrandpaMo.

fferyllt · Post Post #1131 (isolation #78) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:04 am

Manateedude replaces GrandpaMo!

Night 2 begins now. Night actions are due on Monday, August 2, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-01 21:00:00)

fferyllt · Post Post #1132 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:00 pm

ManateeDude died last night. She was a

Vanilla Townie

.

fferyllt · Post Post #1133 (isolation #80) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:01 pm

Vote Count 4-1

Day 4 Begins!

In Japan, dessert sandwiches are a thing: made with fresh fruit and chilled whip cream between two slices of fluffy Japanese milk bread (shokupan).

Not Voting

(3): looker, Lady Lambdadelta, petapan

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1168 (isolation #81) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:36 pm

Vote Count 4-2

Sandwich or no?

Not Voting

(3): looker, Lady Lambdadelta, petapan

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:41 pm

Vote Count 4-3

A grilled cheese sandwich featuring marscapone and berries!

Not Voting

(3): looker, Lady Lambdadelta, petapan

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1201 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Vote Count 4-4

Is this a sandwich?

petapan

(1): Looker

Looker

(1): petapan

Not Voting

(1): Lady Lambdadelta

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1224 (isolation #84) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:28 am

allez

fferyllt · Post Post #1225 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:28 am

Vote Count 4-5

Grilled sandwich with Nutella, dark chocolate and roasted strawberries. This one stretches my personal definition of sandwich just a little too far with the dark chocolate.

petapan

(1): Looker

Looker

(1): petapan

Not Voting

(1): Lady Lambdadelta

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

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fferyllt · Post Post #1228 (isolation #86) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:34 am

Vote Count 4-5

Is this a sandwich? Please discuss.

Looker

(2): petapan, Lady Lambdadelta

petapan

(1): Looker

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Deadline: August 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

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An Elimination and Win Condition Have Been Achieved!

fferyllt · Post Post #1229 (isolation #87) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:38 am

Looker was a

Mafia Goon

.

Town Wins!

fferyllt · Post Post #1230 (isolation #88) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:41 am

Thread reopened!

Thanks so much for playing! And special thanks to all the players who volunteered to replace into this game!

I'll post the PTs shortly.

If you asked for a private personal thread for this game and would like it to be made public, let me know!

fferyllt · Post Post #1236 (isolation #89) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:46 am

Dead PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87098
Mafia PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87097
Mod Notes: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87099

Clasko's PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87153

fferyllt · Post Post #1259 (isolation #90) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:09 am

In post 1248, Looker wrote:Yes - they're all sandwiches

A structure and ingredient rebel!

fferyllt · Post Post #1263 (isolation #91) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:23 am

One of the hotter topics in the dead thread was the Day 1 elim of JamesTheNames. I think it came down to running out of time and trying to make an elim happen given the players available to consolidate at that point.

He was nowhere near a universal scumread. He was a townread for the majority of players, I think.

Why do you think that happened?

peta's suggestions for how to take the lead and get an elim you want could have helped with the end of day 1, I think.

fferyllt · Post Post #1269 (isolation #92) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:41 am

In post 1267, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1265, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 1263, fferyllt wrote:One of the hotter topics in the dead thread was the Day 1 elim of JamesTheNames. I think it came down to running out of time and trying to make an elim happen given the players available to consolidate at that point.

He was nowhere near a universal scumread. He was a townread for the majority of players, I think.

Why do you think that happened?

peta's suggestions for how to take the lead and get an elim you want could have helped with the end of day 1, I think.
My best guess is that people saw recent votes on James from T3 and VFP(i think) and they wanted to sheep it. I think clakso voted james because he was the majority vote or smth. it was still a super unfortunate condemm
James died because I pushed him. I don't regret it or think it was a mistake.

My evaluation was that desipte T3 and VFP being scummy, doing the tango between them was a waste of win percentage and information. If they were both town from that position, we lose the game. Even if one of them was scum, we're in similar bad spots decently often.

Suddenly killing james polarized the game into "people who wanted to kill james" and "people who were opposed" and it helped me a lot in how we progressed through the game.

I don't regret it, also, because I felt James had scum equity tbh.

What did he do/not do that drew your attention? What should he work on to avoid it happening in the future?

fferyllt · Post Post #1273 (isolation #93) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:50 am

Once again, thank you all for playing!

You're encouraged to keep playing newbies as long as you like, of course, but I humbly suggest trying out some of the other queues, if you're feeling brave and would like to check out other game styles and sizes!

If you liked the "solve the setup" interactions with a semi-open setup like the NewD3 setup, check out the open queue!
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12925435

There's also the Micro Queue! 9 Player Maximum, and all sorts of setups!
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12924531

Prefer to keep things a little more secret, and try out a larger pond? Try the Mini Normal queue!
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12913983

Would you like to try out a high-flavor and/or mechanically complex game? The Mini Theme queue might be just right for you!
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12921714