Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

[VFP]

1) First
2) Football’s coming home
3) A sandwich is a filling between two pieces of bread. Other wheat or yeast products do not a sandwich make.

Town.

[VFP]

James, I want to coast for the day.
Can I rely on you to hard defend me today?

[VFP]

James, I want to coast for the day.
Can I rely on you to hard defend me today?

If by defend you mean tunnel someone else for 6 days I can certainly do that.

Thanks!

[VFP]

James, I want to coast for the day.
Can I rely on you to hard defend me today?

VFP, you can just out as mafia rn instead of doing this, its fine. Also what happend to your No-lim, I thought u no-limd every game(or is it only when you're town?)

Only when I'm town.

[VFP]

he was a scummy town.

sh that was an example of my bad game

i got used to playing scum kek

im voting u because u called me scummy town >:(

VOTE: James

also

i love this playerlist

This is scum Grampa 100%

[VFP]

hi vfp. i apologize for playing a bad game wit u

i have decided to play more newbies to help wit my playstyle and so far its been working:)

so hopefully u can look at my past 2 newbie games and see the demeanor changes

I don't think either of us did very well in that one, so I apologies too.
I do think you done better than I expressed in the dead PT though, I was just heated so take what o said with a pinch of salt.

[VFP]

To clarify, my scum comment to Grampa was a friendly joke!

[VFP]

yea i would understand haha , i make many ppl not understand me and its my bad trait that scum takes advantage of

The worst part is I even said I feel we play the same!
I'm trying to be less stubborn in games.

[VFP]

To clarify, my scum comment to Grampa was a friendly joke!

ok i think ik whats gonna happen

when you are town

you usually townread me in the rvs period then you go on and proceed to scumread me.

when you are scum

you usually scumread me in the rvs period then you go on and proceed to townread me

Basically, but I chuck a null read some where during the journey too!

[VFP]

To clarify, my scum comment to Grampa was a friendly joke!

thanks, SE!

mind telling us what posts of yours will not be friendly jokes?

Probably my first day 2 post or the second I tell you there's scum with me and X

[VFP]

Hmm, I believe it.

[VFP]

James is town for what it's worth.

[VFP]

T3 are you scum?

[VFP]

VFP and T3 have managed to be about while saying little.

Is there something you wanted my opinion on?

[VFP]

VFP and T3 have managed to be about while saying little.

Is there something you wanted my opinion on?

yea do u have a readlist?

Not yet.
James hasn't struck me as town like last game yet.
T3 I'm undecided on as well. Gamblers fallacy may get the best of me.

[VFP]

They are the 2 I expect to get a read on today.

[VFP]

Let's move on.

[VFP]

Should we lim T3 here?

[VFP]

Should we lim T3 here?

its either that, you, or rocky.

rocky is worse than t3 idk why cows is townreading them lol

Nah I'm not in the lim pool.

[VFP]

omfg what are you confused about. To go over once again everything I've said. James post 40 is NAI, your reading of it was Scum leaning and Bulges analysis of it was Town. There? Also @cows, why do u SR t3

I don't understand...

[VFP]

How do you roll scum so often, T3?

[VFP]

I did some research regarding the flavour for this game by the way.
The average brit spends roughly £48,000 on sandwiches over a lifetime. The UK also has the highest % of adults who consume at least 1 sandwich per day in the world.

I blame the Deliveroo delivery charge.

[VFP]

How do you roll scum so often, T3?

Hey VFP, u seem to be SR'ing t3 here, any particular reason?

Yes, because T3 is posting scummy T3, not town T3.

[VFP]

So Hockey is probably town.

[VFP]

Cam you do a shorter conclusion to your conclusion?

[VFP]

Gut and because I'm ill.

[VFP]

I mean gut feeling.

ill wise just a virus. I've barely been on site wide.

[VFP]

I mean gut feeling.

ill wise just a virus. I've barely been on site wide.

Okay gotcha.

Hope you feel better.

I wouldn't mind you replacing to get better and focus on your health etc.

Thanks.
I should be fine in a couple of days.
It's also mixed with me disliking day 1 as well, and the fact I'm trying to be less aggressive in Newbie Games early on.

[VFP]

The rule is more no provable RNG. I guess like a screen shot of a dice generator.
I'm pretty sure saying it is okay, but probably best to avoid it to not put the mod in an awkward situation.

[VFP]

Who should I lim, Hockey?

[VFP]

I want to discuss why I should vote there.
You wanted progress on the game so I'm trying to do it.

[VFP]

do you still believe rocky is town?

That wasn't a serious town read.
I don't dislike them as town though. It's obvious that a few of us have history and given how me and T3 have been playing I liked that he called us out for doing nothing. As scum I could suspect it to be a worry there for a newer player to target 2 SE's like that.

[VFP]

I think Mo is town.

Me too, which means scum right?

[VFP]

Do to think he's town?

[VFP]

Do to think he's town?

i think he's scum i gave reason why

I missed it, but I'm focused now.
Do a small reason why.

[VFP]

If I vote with you will I be town?

[VFP]

I don't know.

[VFP]

Gut and because I'm ill.

ok, do you have any other gut feelings? (aside from any literal ones you may be experiencing as a result of your illness)

T3 scum?

[VFP]

I want to discuss why I should vote there.

You wanted progress on the game so I'm trying to do it.

scummy response

Scummy shading.

[VFP]

James/VFP scumteam? i dig it

Buldge / T3 scum team?
I dig it.

[VFP]

Beesechurger has been prodded.

Cabd will be stepping in to mod for a short while. There's been a death in my family. Thanks in advance for your patience with me the next day or so.

I'm sorry to hear.
My thoughts shall be with you!

[VFP]

Well I'm not scum.

VOTE: T3
I will go here though.

[VFP]

Cows probably town.
We should lim T3.

[VFP]

Everything in his ISO

[VFP]

Everything in his ISO

but you know t3 acts like this both as town and scum.

why are you driving a bw on t3 on NAI things, respectfully you seen me do the same thing in my aliensitter needed game, that was the whole reason i pushed t3 instead of bussing there

Wrong. I know how T3 acts, you're right there.

[VFP]

Man I'm 10 minutes late I suck

I can still lim this slot. Depending if Theres a replacement of course...

[VFP]

Man I'm 10 minutes late I suck

I can still lim this slot. Depending if Theres a replacement of course...

Why would u want to lim someone who basically hasn't spoken yet

Because there's been plenty of time to.
I don't feel like this player with contribute.

But I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

[VFP]

Your scum side is showing, T3!

[VFP]

@fferyllt / Cabd - V/LA over the weekend.

Huge game this weekend so I'm going to avoid MS all weekend and just enjoy it coming home!

[VFP]

I still think the cows/VFP pair exists btw

The just stop thinking this.

[VFP]

Then we should do you a favour and lim you.

[VFP]

Whaling is illegal, sorry! >:|

[VFP]

Hi Looker.

[VFP]

T3 is just trying to survive here rather than scum hunt.
Thats not what town T3 does.

[VFP]

SCUM VFP likes to pocket me and then flip on it later game.

i know you said you don't know exactly how scum VFP plays, but if VFP playing nothing like they have in previous games, then they really are true null, no?

T3 knows how I play as either align.
Don't fall for the lies!

[VFP]

Scum mad at T3 showing himself as scum! >:|

[VFP]

VOTE: lld
This feels similar to Yggdrasil when LLD was scum in the sense that she's trying to control the game. I disagree with her James read and she's trying to pocket hockey.

Atleast let her catch up.
You can't complain that the game is slow or whatever then jump on someone for pushing it forward.

[VFP]

T3, what are u doing. You are attempting to read someone based off of meta alone. Why not do this wiith some of the other game? Why is LLD an exception?

Because T3 is scum!

[VFP]

I am a T3 meta expert.
T3 is scum!

[VFP]

^Scum

[VFP]

1 day and 15 hours.
I think I'd even rather be the lim to a no lim.

[VFP]

A lim is always better than a no lim otherwuse we go into day 2 with no information and back to me and T3 voting each other.
Of course though, I'm preferable to lim T3.

[VFP]

At least Hockey is making a stand.
Everyone on the fence is the worry.

[VFP]

VFP has literally done nothing except make an unexplained and bad meta case against me.

Name a game I have ever made a bad meta case against you!

[VFP]

VFP, real talk
i need more content like this

You get content from me day 2 onwards!

[VFP]

Can you lot just vote? No lim only benefits scum here.

[VFP]

LLD, Clarke, and Grampa... your votes / not votes are just a waste.

LLD is probably town here from being passive. The others not so much.
A town T3 would probably make James scum.

Clarkso isn't looking good either.

I'm pretty happy with Cow, Hocker, and Looker though.

Grampa is meh I guess?

[VFP]

I'm not talking about how it looks though.

[VFP]

VFP literally has not explained the meta case on me.

Ive explained on par to how I usually do. I find it odd that this is the issue you have.

[VFP]

It has more merit if you're not the one using it as a defence to why I should town read you.

[VFP]

The thing is T3, you plausibly are town here.
But it's too late in the day for me to start a fresh wagon on someone, considering I don't like any of the other wagons.

[VFP]

If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.

When do I explain in detail though?

[VFP]

If you don't explain in detail why you scumread me then yes, I think this is the closest thing that has merit.

When do I explain in detail though?

You didn't. I don't think you've ever been this wrong about me so unless my playstyle has changed a lot (which, granted, I have been posting a lot more) I think you/James is the team.

Can James still be scum if I'm not?

[VFP]

VOTE: James
Like... I guess looking back on this my playstyle has definitely changed as in that I'm posting a lot more. I find it implausible that town James didn't even take into account meta or the crumb when pushing me.

What's changed your mind?

[VFP]

Maybe, I might be asleep.

[VFP]

wait actually i take that back, not "much less" but, i sr VFP a lil more

Ew

[VFP]

Are you trying to chain up mis lims?

[VFP]

What makes T3 on your radar as scum right now?

[VFP]

What makes T3 on your radar as scum right now?

he has not done anythign towny. Also fwiw, the whole T3/VFP thing is only something i am going to pay attention on d1 most likely. I said in 719 that i think town should shift away from it a bit but since no one budged, i got back on it as we got closer to deadline. Stop assuming that I am going to sus ONLY these 2 the whole gmae

If I give some names, can you tell me what these players have done that is towny? And where the bar is currently at?

Looker
Grampa
LLD
Clasko

Any order is fine.

[VFP]

Grandpa is towny. What his posts look like and the frequency of them are similar but I find Townpa to be open minded and Scumpa to tunnel limbait town.

This isn't to you!
I want to know at what level Hockey is considering you as actually scum for lack of effort / town posts outside of others.

There's obvious a bar that Hockey has, and their impression is me and you are favoured scum over majority of the others.
Regardless to how Hockey is approaching day 2, these players have presented themselves as town more so at some point.

[VFP]

I'll stay up until deadline if needed.
I don't want Hockey dodging me here.

[VFP]

What makes T3 on your radar as scum right now?

he has not done anythign towny. Also fwiw, the whole T3/VFP thing is only something i am going to pay attention on d1 most likely. I said in 719 that i think town should shift away from it a bit but since no one budged, i got back on it as we got closer to deadline. Stop assuming that I am going to sus ONLY these 2 the whole gmae

If I give some names, can you tell me what these players have done that is towny? And where the bar is currently at?

Looker
Grampa
LLD
Clasko

Any order is fine.

From

most

town to

least

town

Clakso- Really Really liked thier entrenacne,reads and the reasoning behind it e.t.c
LLD- Dont have a good read on this slot, but I think the confidence she showed right at the beginning is +town
Grampa- weirdly enough, their whole interaction/tunnel with me is town
Looker- cant get a read on this slot - null

And just as a reminder, anyone who is "null" to me is STILL higher than scum on my reads list. For example- Looker/LLD/somewhat Grandpa are probs on my null list but LLD/Grandpa HAVE done towny things which is why they're not on my scum list

Also, i will be gone for about the next hour, so sorry if i dont respond to u quickly

This is such a generic response that you're just missing "gut". Your argument was T3 hasn't done anything that is town. Wouldn't that put T3 as null rather than just a little less scummy than me?
Let's start with each.

Clakso, which reads in particular? Why is this the most basic reasoning but yet the most town read to you?

LLD - Why can't scum be confident? What has LLD done for you that is town, considering that confidence isn't a town tell and you have advised that LLD has done something as town.

Grampa - why is their tunnel on you town? What posts from the interaction are you liking as town? What has Grampa done that is town? Pushed you?

Looker - whats the difference with Looker and T3?

[VFP]

Vote Count 1-15

The history of the Reuben sandwich is somewhat contested. There is some evidence that the first Reuben was served at the Blackstone Hotel in Omaha, Nebraska that hosted a (yes, once again) gambling club. and also that Reuben's Restaurant in New York was the birthplace of the sandwich. By the 1940s, there are menus from both restaurants that feature the Reuben as it is known today: corned beef, Swiss cheese, sauerkraut, and Russian dressing, grilled between slices of rye bread.

T3

(3): VFP, JamesTheNames, cowsloveSushirolls

VFP

(2): Looker, HockeyFan

Looker

(1): GrandpaMo

JamesTheNames

(1): T3

Not Voting

(2): Clasko, Lady Lambdadelta

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Revised Deadline: July 17, Midnight US Eastern Time (one day added)

Countdown: (expired on 2021-07-16 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

fferyllt-Cabd combined ISO for vote counts
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This VC is still the same.

VOTE: James
If there's interest here I can lim James over T3. I'm changing my mind on T3.

[VFP]

VT
LLD'S turn.

I'll try and get on as and when but I'm pretty ill so don't expect much the next couple of days.