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[marcistar]

Hi guys!

u scum?

[marcistar]

I'm mason

urge to make a dad joke

[marcistar]

Hi guys!

u scum?

100%!

gottem ez

do u hyperpost often? thats alot of small posts in a row

[marcistar]

ive decided im townreading u

[marcistar]

ive decided im townreading u

can we be townbuddies? :0

yes yes ofc ofc, tho we cant let the mafia know

[marcistar]

[Progressionless post until MaxTheFox arrives]

VOTE: looker

[marcistar]

Manatee is another potential mafia.

how?

[marcistar]

geraint is town btw

I'm fairly sure you say this in every game we are in

is he wrong????

[marcistar]

Hero solve: Max + Manatee + Marci

[marcistar]

saudade prob town as well not as sure on this tho

[marcistar]

Also VOTE: Marcistar masons unite on this

Spoiler:

I want to change my vote, who should I vote and why?

vote whoever.
im voting looker because i felt like the whole "waiting on max" thing was just them making excuses to not post. and my vote kept, because i don't really like his posting following manatees questioning them.

omo is either scum or just trying to cause chaos. None of their posts make much sense as town, they're either baseless accusations or dodging questions.

don't think what they've been doing is really scummy rn, the game was not really serious and they seem to have been trying to drive it into serious zone.

[marcistar]

Why are Women voting Titus? Is she a misogynist?

tbh, i remember reading the vote count.. and i was just confused who women was because i dont remember there being someone named that.. am i remembering wrong?

Also, VOTE: owo - she's pocketing Not_Mafia, and her and marcistar are being cliquey. Fight the power. End the oppressive regime.

I confused owo with Manatee - it's all pink and blue

"cliquey" are u saying thats scummy..? whats making you want to use that to go after her instead of me..?
and, if ur confusing owo with manatee, why did u not switch onto manatee once u realized this mistake?

[marcistar]

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

[marcistar]

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

Like what? Her accusation is completely unreasonable. Let alone hypocritical since she hasn't commented on everything either.

i dont think its unreasonable, you seem a bit held back this game
do you usually play so go-with-the-flow held back type of style?

[marcistar]

I'm down for town reading Kyouko, if only because her reasoning for scum reading me is so bad I don't think scum would try it.

do u usually play like this..?

Like what? Her accusation is completely unreasonable. Let alone hypocritical since she hasn't commented on everything either.

i dont think its unreasonable, you seem a bit held back this game
do you usually play so go-with-the-flow held back type of style?

I've literally never played a game with you before? What are you talking about here?

And haven't you just been memeing all game and brushing off every accusation toward you?

VOTE: Marcistar

i think marci was just asking if this is ur normal playstyle? what abt her comment provoked such a strong response from you?

manatees right here, i was asking if its ur regular playstyle. and then explained how ur play so far looks like to me cuz u said "like what?".
maybe i worded it in a weird way..?

i dont think ive been "memeing all game", i was 100% serious with my vote even if it doesnt look like it. the way i play, i dont throw out random votes. <3
"brushing off every accusation toward you" maybe it seems like that actually, but i havent really seen anything i want to respond to regarding any accusations towards me

[marcistar]

i think owo would be town..? i dont see anything wrong with them

[marcistar]

manatee do u usually switch votes so much?

[marcistar]

manatee do u usually switch votes so much?

is that bad

i think it depends tbh

i really do think owos town so i dont like manatees owo vote
im like fairly confident in this read..

i dont really want to vote roden rn esp considering the weird "i'll claim now" post that i'll need to revisit now

mmhmm...
is there anyone who isnt a wagon rn who u would vote?

[marcistar]

why am I town?

vibes

its like, cant point towards a specific post but overall nothing stands out as u wanting to do ulterior motive stuff, the vibes i get is that you were genuinely trying to do game stuff in ur way.

what about my omo vote? why highlight him and not me

bcuz i have a bad memory and dont remember u voting him, so it mustve been earlier before i got the hardcore wanting to protect owo vibes

[marcistar]

Interesting to note that Max's last vote had her town lean Manatee ("trust me" is a horrible reason to do so btw), then abruptly stopped posting. Manatee then started throwing a bunch of suspicion around the moment Max started to lay low. It looks like somebody's buddy trying to get attention off of them after a rough start.

And again, Manatee seems to be giving Marci a free pass for things she's accused other people of doing. She won't even acknowledge it when I bring it up either.

hmm, so do u actually think its me x manatee x max?

[marcistar]

Why are the three of you so opposed to scum reading each other?

should i scumread people who i dont actually think are scum???

-i feel sort of like max needs to post more before i would be able to have a confident read on them
-manatee, i had a fairly big townread on before, but im not as sure anymore as of recently. ^.^

[marcistar]

Also you are quite clearly distancing now, because before you two were being all buddy buddy and TRing each other, then shortly after you even said "am I letting Marci pocket me? Maybe" which pinged me then but I thought I'd let that go on the off chance you two are playing a weird style of masons, but with distancing that is happening now I don't entertain that as a possibility anymore. You're both both pretending like it never happened lmao

i like buddying, i do know i was buddying but i didnt think it was a serious point..? is it a serious thing we should be chatting about..?
i dont like manatees vote on owo so then i decided to stop buddying them so hard at that point

What’s your take on

OMO

's read about

goofball

and despite TR

Roden

, sheeped

ssbm

to vote

Roden

in the next few posts?

i dont agree with their read on the goofball slot cuz i had my own opinions from lookers stuff, but i dont think their read is bad.
i forget, can u link where they tr roden and then where they made the vote please..?

[marcistar]

The way Marci reacted to me pushing on them feels towny in retrospect, I was just a bit taken aback at the time when they were not suspicious of me which made me feel like there was TMI at play but at the end of the day scum leans towards actually questioning people who are FoSing them.

I'll sheep you for now kyouko VOTE: Roden

Umm, what happened in between??

seeing this level of depth of thought from you is refreshing because it tells me you're very likely town as I correctly vibed you out to be, although I may not necessarily agree with your conclusions(I'm partially convinced? I like what you noticed but I had Roden as town so I'm a bit biased towards not being wrong xD), I think the thought process you are displaying is towny.

i think it seems natural

[marcistar]

Manateegal is also scum ty for making that obvious

i think ur just susing anyone who votes u and thats kinda weird

I'm mason

urge to make a dad joke

Serious question: What dad joke?

Word wolf warning: I am known for some of the cringiest of dad jokes so spare no expense.

its prob obvious wht its was gonna be, im like the worst at dad jokes its not even funny

[marcistar]

Kinda disappointed.

Was hoping to lock town you depending on the joke to see if it matched your vibe. You not telling it after telling you it’s okay to be cringey is pretty sus but the rest of your posting is okay.

Null with the lightest of scum leans here.

i dont like being lockedtown anyways since that makes the game boring for me

but i dont like disappointing people; it was just the basic "hi mason im marci" type joke, my friend makes those kinds of jokes so often so ive been picking it up

[marcistar]

Marci- Same reason I suspect her that I do Manatee. However, I feel like Marci more blatantly tried to distance herself. Possibly scum trying to associate herself with a town!Manatee in order to build fake scum equity.

Also don't think Marci has been doing much solving or scum hunting, mainly just chatting with everyone and being friendly.

having trouble with my reads, though that isn't too much of a valid excuse. I have townreads mostly, and "they dont seem scummy enough to vote" reads, but im not really too confident in anything.

All things considered, I'm interested in voting out either Marci or Max unless someone can come up with a compelling enough case for somebody else.

whatchu waiting for? why didnt u vote in this post if ur willing to vote out either of me/max?

[marcistar]

Who are your town reads? Who looks scummy but not enough to vote them?

I waited to vote because I wanted to see reactions to my lack of vote. I think your reaction is the most interesting, it reads like you want to "gotcha" me for not voting. But all you're doing is implying it's suspicious. Compare this to Math who made a full scum case out of it.

<<owo, salsabil, mathblade, ssbm_kyouko>> are my townreads yes sir
<<maybe titus>> on their own tier because like im confused
<<not_mafia, maybe you, maybe max>> are the people who i dont wanna vote (:

<<geraintm, drippinggoofball, dwlee99, manatee>> would be left overs

VOTE: marcistar I would come to manatee as well because I think this "limbo" in my reads is one scum buddying town/trying to create partner equity with town.

Manatee has better upsides in her posting. I also feel like Marci's vote has generally been wasted this game and that is where scum likes to sit when town eats each other up. Others are also guilty of this.

not wasted imo but if u think so thats fine

[marcistar]

So the left overs are your scum reads then? Between the four of them, who do you think we should vote?

i dont like pushing my opinions onto people
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dwlee and drippinggoofball are the ones i would choose between the 4
but then i feel bad for dwlee
so im fine with my current vote

[marcistar]

dwlee and drippinggoofball are the ones i would choose between the 4
but then i feel bad for dwlee
so im fine with my current vote

I don't follow this

all of it?
i feel like u were frustrated earlier, and blinded by just wanting to attack who attacked u.. it made me feel bad for u :'(

[marcistar]

I had to look back at who you voted because I forgot and, uh...your last vote was during RVS. On Looker.

wasnt random for me tho <3 <3

[marcistar]

I had to look back at who you voted because I forgot and, uh...your last vote was during RVS. On Looker.

wasnt random for me tho <3 <3

You did say this earlier. What makes you think DGB is equally as scummy as Looker?

they dont post often so they didnt really ease my leftover worries from looker <3

[marcistar]

Marci, if you're town I really want you to defend yourself. I don't want you mis-elim'd if you're just a passive player, so please make a case for yourself.

I don't mind too much, it shows peoples true colors if theyre attacking one of the easiest targets <3 <3
like really, would it not give juicy info with how people are settling with me and theres no fight back..? (ignoring the one game where i really flopped like a fish within 3hrs), as scum i usually try harder because i dont want to let down my team, so why am i not attacking hard and trying to ensure i live to help my "team"? why as scum would i just be settling down with my elim..?

The biggest thing that's pinged me are your associatives with Max and Manatee, and then the blatant distancing that happened afterward. Something I commented on and that Kyouko noticed too is that it also looked like you were trying to build fake scum equity with Manatee. Your vote on Looker/DGB also doesn't read as town since you've made several accusations and suspected others since then. Why did you never change your vote/why are you so certain about DGB?

"associatives with max" i dont get how thats happened, theyre barely around for me to even attempt to buddy. I see how "associatives with manatee" could be a thing though.
"blatant distancing" i started distancing with manatee after i suddenly didnt like their vote, wow really a big shock how i dont wanna continue buddying someone i dont agree with anymore
but if yall think that distancing can only come from scum honey u got a big storm coming for ya <3
"build fake scum equity" then why havent i been told to stop in maf chat..? its obv leading me into a very bad spot, why would my scumteam just let me continue doing it..? if im scum, its clearly doing more harm than good at this point right..? cuz if im scum and yall are seeing thru it this easily, its not all that helpful towards scum and instead helps town more.

the thing is im not super confident in the looker/drippinggoofball vote, its just the thing that i feel is best out of everyone so i kept it there for so long.
"made several accusations and suspected others" but that didnt make drippinggoofball more townie in my eyes at all? he was my most preferred always, but i cant just ignore chat for hrs and hrs, i was trying to figure out the stepping stone after that <3

they dont post often so they didnt really ease my leftover worries from looker <3

LOL I just replaced.

243 its been a couple days, but nothing eases my worries <3

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yall think im scum but, what info would u be getting if i happen to not be

[marcistar]

Marci can you do a reads list? Claim (if you haven't)

im just a vt, so its not too much of a loss to town

Spoiler:

Not_Mafia -

not too sure

MathBlade -

I had good vibes on saudade (238, 326, 412, and his stuff about u titus seems pretty good) and i have decent vibes on mathblade > i like his like catching up on things alot, though im not really too sure where they stand rn
i think hes just genuinely putting thoughts there, and not just trying to whatevers easiest. so this is prob like townlean

oʍo -

their early game stuff seemed like they were just trying to move stuff forward, the vibes tell me theres nothing with bad intentions there. (463, 464, 853, 854 specifically good vibes, if u want something stronger than just pure vibes ) townread.

Roden -

(222, 294) im not usually used to people throwingaround the term "scum claiming" so easily so these originally felt weird to me, 244 originally to me seemed like he was just doing it cuz it was whats popular, originally i didn't really like him much. As the game went on though, i realized its just I don't vibe well with his playstyle so im not too confident placing a read here. I could see him being anything.

geraintm -

idk

DrippingGoofball -

originally i didn't like looker because it looked like looker was just making excuses, 206 and its correction in 209 was goodish tho.
drippinggoofball really just hasn't done too much, which makes me comfortable with my vote <3 <3 i don't know any meta on them so i cant be like "meta meta, hes town" or anything, so im just keeping at it until i either get what i wanna see or i die x3 <3 (657, 875) i don't see too much of an explanation

Dwlee99 -

535 by itself doesn't seem too weird, but it just stands out alot in their iso. i think thats where they really started like putting their foot into the game..? i also don't like how long they let the mason thing with saudade go on. i like (619, 761), dislike 703 since they dont rlly explain much. generally, his posts look good on quick glance, but i think they could be easily faked as scum.

MaxTheFox -

im not too sure on how to read them. i don't agree with their read on owo, i dont see anything wrong with it though, i think theyre something like a "only time can tell" sorta thing.

Titus -

tbh im not sure what a babysitter is but like ill trust it i think.. though im a bit confused on the timing of ur claim

ssbm_Kyouko -

i think ssbm_kyouko is really good at being a townleader often ^.^ i think theyre townie the vibes are just there. they seem rlly focused on me/manatee so i hope they have a backup plan if things go wrong :'(

ManateeDude -

they do alot of short posts and change votes alot, im not too sure how i feel about her anymore tbh. but like i had a townread here originally, but i just like.. the vote changes feel weird and sometimes like theyre taking opportunities.

Salsabil Faria -

i remember my townread on her felt stronger before, but isoing her doesn't really keep up those same vibes. i would say townie vibes, but keep her between the lower rankings of the townie vibes imo. alot of her posts aren't rlly doing much, and her post count makes it seem like shes in thread more than she actually has been (in my mind at least).
im still traumatized from the exploder game
(so lower ranks of the townie reads for her).

^ theres some ideas of the players, not really good and def not spicy at all tho
man that was kinda alot of work and took a bunch of hrs

Because town has zero motivation to settle and let themselves be elim'd.

Scum may do so to invoke WIFOM, or to make the exact argument you're making. Because yes, why would scum just lay down and die?.

i often do it as town for not so good reasons
but sometimes ill want to do it just so that my townreads dont get picked on.

Thing is, you can't claim you're not fighting back. You've been sprinkling suspicion on others throughout all of Day 1.

wheres me sprinkling suspicion on others..? i prob wasnt doing it to defend myself tho since i remember never really feeling like i needed to defend myself much earlier

Your associative with Max isn't direct but through Manatee. Your statement though implies you checked your ISO to fact check yourself, which is weird since you should just know if you talked much with Max or not.

i dont think i checked my iso at that point, but if i did it was prob cuz i was confused.. i have the worst memory

I will say though that your defense here is actually more reasonable than I expected. I'm just not seeing the town motivation for using scum tactics like buddying and distancing, nor for why you haven't really pushed your biggest scum read.

doesn't really matter too much, but i do buddy often to people who i feel like

have

to be town.. kinda gets me in an awkward spot when i rethink on them tho
dont really know why i do it.

Of the wagons that have come up so far who do you think could be scum?

lowkey don't remember all the wagons, the one i do remember (dwlee) i think could easily flip scum tho.

If you can’t find any who do you think would be the deep wolf pushing you in that scenario?

don't really think much of my wagon is sus (916) but if theres one on there its roden, but i wouldn't be too confident to put the title on him that fast.

[marcistar]

I get a sense she's doing her homework to make sure everything she says checks out, which kinda conflicts with her overall vibe and demeanor that she's putting across. Like, using a lot of emojis and hearts, but then making passive aggressive statements.

im sorry im dumb, is ur point that my emojis and passive aggressive statements clash eachother?

im not sure exactly but i think i become a bit passive aggressive when im frustrated.

i also like lowkey dont think i do homework, but if it looks like it thats fair enough.

[marcistar]

It's kind of hard to describe. Going by how you've posted in other games, I don't think it's inauthentic or forced. It feels like you're exaggerating a cutesy/uwu front to mask your intentions and draw in empathy. But I've seen you do it as scum and town, so it could just be a clash of playstyles like you mentioned.

well like yeah its prob personality clashs then, but im a bit surprised u picked up on that.. its a normal typing style for me, acted like it for like.. maybe 4 years now? totally not mafia related tho

[marcistar]

It sounds like Roden’s point is more you’re not keeping an accurate memory of what you said so the responses feel constructed and less jovial than the rest of your posts and I get that vibe too.

ahhh thats what he meant?
well im just built diff

i do see where yall can see it. not sure if i can fight that much cuz its prob truly, but i was trying to be more serious in those posts

i dont even like marci lim but taking me out is much much worse for game

sister??? i- i- sister r u okay???? 946 sister???

[marcistar]

i dont think i implied i liked eliminating u in that podt just that it gave us stuff 2 work with

wait im lowkey confused

marci not acting like a total scumfuck in response to votes is good but

idk if its good enough for me

marci even if town

gives us stuff to work with postflip bc theyve been interacting a lot more as of late.

not sure what omos getting at w the "complex thoughts" in regards bc it kind of just reads as a way to get off the wagon w justification which town shouldn't need to do. if marci is scum here her "complex thoughts" hold value primarily post-flip

can u explain what u meant here then..?

[marcistar]

i guess its the difference between thinking an elim could be valuable and liking it. my perspective pretty quickly changed between the two posts esp given the fact i became a target during that time

hmm k

I summon the powers of roden, omo, manatee, and Marci to turboelim this scumbag. It's partner can bus it with the 6th vote and not_mafia can hammer for the lulz

I was damn near town locking DGB due to Looker, but that is a good point about DGB's posts. Last game I was with DGB I ended up tunneling them to the point I tried to Vig them, but they also played way differently in that game. They've been extremely inactive and not really trying to make any waves this time around, possibly just coasting on the town read Looker forged for them. Re-evaluating Looker again, I also remember thinking they were trying to look scummy on purpose. It made me think they were either too scummy to be scummy and maybe had a PR, or they were gambitting we would assume TSTBS. I should've had them null in my reads list tbh.

i thought they were just like not motivated tbh

What a hypocrite pl!!
When I was voting

OMO

and

Dwlee

, either I was completely ignored or they were strongly townread by others which made me back off a little and I decided to sheep others. But now I am not town to all of you because I went against

Titus

or to your precious M3 group, which you guys want to eliminate???
You guys deserve each other, not gonna post anymore, screw yourselves!!

question, where are people saying ur not town?

Aw come on people, I haven't been able to pay attention to this game, my course is way more involved than I anticipated, I was prioritizing other games since this one was just starting and unfortunately I can't even give it the attention it deserves for another week.

All I can ask for is a reprieve. I am even going to be gone all day today visiting friends that live two hours away , leaving in a minute, my husbandis alreadyoutside waitingfor me. Titus you of all people should understand that life can get in the way, I am disappointed.

like, now i feel bad for u, but is this ur only defense..? do u have any alternative options..? in ur iso it looks like uve read thru quite a bit of the game, but u haven't done too much

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i dont like the vote geraintm made xoxo

[marcistar]

Marcistar?
You don't like my vote?
I've pinged them three times for doing something I don't like....and then they self vote. How is me voting for them.notnconsistentnwith everything I have said this game?
+1 scum point to marcistar

wow u responded so fast.. must be scared to be sused!
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i feel like ur so focused on salsabil it feels a bit like ur doing whats easy, when theres alot of things on other people that ur avoiding giving opinions on.

[marcistar]

i actually think dwlee being off wagon in the way he was is a better look for him then the way omo hopped on

i agree, dwlee looks good.
dwlee could've easily got on the wagon; it was clear ssbm_kyouko intended to lead drippinggoofball to the death, and if dwlee was partners with them they could've just easily gotten on the wagon at the first hint of it going south, for towncred, but staying off seems a bit uninformed.

im not quite too sure if owo would be scum, but their positioning around end of phase was bad bad bad looking.

im kinda interested in seeing how geraintm would handle today.

[marcistar]

Roden flipping town should clear me btw lol

how?

[marcistar]

i dont think salsabil and geraintm would be teamies
i think geraintm is the more scummy of the 2.

[marcistar]

Math buried DGB they were town anyways, math is anti d1 bussing iirc

Slight correction:
As scum (which I am not) don’t bus unless I get something out of it. Very rarely do you get something from bussing a buddy D1.

This makes me think possible Marci+DGB+early voter on DGB to save Marci possibly.

I asked for no fast night to try to make sense of the vote patterns and couldn’t which is indicative of a deep wolf.

im confused, what r u thinking here..? do u think i could be scum pr..? why would "to save Marci"?

[marcistar]

Math buried DGB they were town anyways, math is anti d1 bussing iirc

Slight correction:
As scum (which I am not) don’t bus unless I get something out of it. Very rarely do you get something from bussing a buddy D1.

This makes me think possible Marci+DGB+early voter on DGB to save Marci possibly.

I asked for no fast night to try to make sense of the vote patterns and couldn’t which is indicative of a deep wolf.

im confused, what r u thinking here..? do u think i could be scum pr..? why would "to save Marci"?

Correct.

I do not believe ManateeDude is scum. Therefore wagons are start are TvT or SvT between you and ManateeDude.

Ergo scum wagon was swapped from Scum Goon to scum goon which is weird and I don’t see scum doing it
Or scum PR to scum goon scum motivated
Or Town to scum motivated town motivated

Me and Titus are town which makes it more likely the swap was scum motivated unless we had an all town wagon on DGB.

ah i c i c,
whats making u think it wasn't an all town wagon? just that u think theres deepwolf, or is there something else?

[marcistar]

dwlee do u have any reads at this moment

[marcistar]

1210 I think makes it clear I scumread max.

Marci may have just not read? Or missed it? That itself is probably NAI/slight lean scummy but her associatives with DGB are good so I think she is town.

i lowkey just have a really bad memory
but what i wanted was for opinions on more people, what ur saying is just opinions on 1 person

Their attitude doesn’t match. It’s more “malaise” like woe is me.

whats malaise mean..?

[marcistar]

I said im lurking. salsa what r ur thoughts on max rn? you lay down a vote but im curious how serious it was

Said already, I think her lurking in this game is scum indicative, the vote on her is moderately serious. Like

Math

, I also think now we have at least one deepwolf (considering both

Dwlee

and

OMO

are town).

u said u think im town, so who does that leave as the deepwolf?
"considering both dwlee and omo are town" how do you know that..?

What if it’s

Max

and

geraintm

? 2 lurkers

i do think geraintm has a decent chance of being scum here, but max im kinda unsure on.

pedit: these wagons are giving me the spooks. omo and dwlee voting together, and Max and Salsa voting together, cross-voting
TvS wagons I think.

i dont think scum would wanna wagon together so openly. do you think they would?

1-5 Maricstar omo dynamic is interesting. Marci might be a wagon to save owo.

didn't think of this originally.

Looking at this VC here, assuming Titus town, I know I am town, then if there is scum in the wagon it is in Marci/Kyo/owo if the wagons are TvT as I suspect then a Marci Kyo wagon pops up again. I coulda sworn Kyo was the first voter on DGB though I am going to have to reread that.

i voted drippinggoofballs slot early on (i think in the first few pages..? not sure exactly) and just never moved off.


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out of 1333s vc,
i dont think owo would be a good move, they've felt generally towny to me this game.

max is a good vote, im not sure if i exactly trust theyre vt rn.
so is dwlee, they could be doing a lot more but they aren't doing much.

i really really really want geraintm today to give us stuff, they better not slide by like a slipperly snake

[marcistar]

something feels weird

[marcistar]

VOTE: maxthefox

[marcistar]

hey marci

hi, im a bit tired rn lol (2am)

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i wanna ask tho

max

, have you stated your opinions on the drippinggoofball wagon yet? if not, can u?
theres a wholeass scumflip to use to help with reasonings for things and such, it feels a bit weird u haven't explained things more.

[marcistar]

i feel incredibly bad for that hammer but like i lowkey didnt know it was a hammer, i thought i would be able to wake up and explain it later.
i should 100% be punished if the numbers call for it

(WAIT GUYS LOWKEY WHATS THE RULES ON SELFVOTING- AM I ALLOWED TO DO IT HERE OR IS THAT AGAINST THE RULES)

[marcistar]

As long as you aren’t in your opinion throwing then you’re golden. You always have to play to win con.

I don’t see a protown reason to self vote and this really seems like a scum claim

because i feel bad LOL
i feel so bad for max

Personally I think Marci fits the VCA a lot better.

It explains why the wagon stalled. Marci had a lag vote on DGB she planned to move then boom Kyo wagons DGB out of no where and she can’t move it.

??
i wasnt ever gonna move my vote off of drippinggoofball, i was pretty sure i wanted to either stick there or die.
if i "planned to move off" then why didnt i when there was the so so many opportunities?

This is a really weak reason to stay on DFG. The 4 Roden asks about, for context, are DGB, Dwlee, geraintm, and Manatee. Town!Marci used the "I feel bad for [a replaced-in player] getting voted out" in Owner's Market Blitz recently, and I mistakenly thought that meant she was scum with the replaced-in player. But as town, she didn't vote that player. Dwlee is a replace-in, but so is DGB. The "feel bad" doesn't apply to DGB here though, so there is a difference here that initially appears like a similarity to her last towngame with me.

HUH IS DWLEE A REPLACE IN- i just lowkey felt bad for them based on what they were saying

drippinggoofball felt diff than that player ur talking about.

I'm no longer doubting Math, now when considering Marci's DGB vote. I also think scum!Marci is TMIing her partners in RVS if it's {DGB, Marci, Salsabil}.

just elim me

assuming thats the team,
im not confident enough with my abilities as scum to keep my vote on drippinggoofball all day, certainly not confident enough to then make (1366) so it just doesn't really make sense imo.

- -

yall if i was scum, genuine question;
what do i have to gain from doing that hammer?

[marcistar]

And you gain a Townie dead? Until I conclusively find your partner that sort of question is kinda silly. If it’s you and Dwlee you gain a day to give them some breathing room. You and Salsa means that Salsa isn’t forced to give more content.

The what you gain is dependent on your partner.

ssbm_kyouko considered me part of their townblock thing

what do i gain from making a scummy hammer, and ruining my chances at that townblock..?
if i was scum surely i would want to milk the townblock for all it worth, hmm?

sacrificing how towny i seem, just to get a townie miselimed and then be sused right after is not a move i would make

[marcistar]

i feel incredibly bad for that hammer but like i lowkey didnt know it was a hammer, i thought i would be able to wake up and explain it later.
i should 100% be punished if the numbers call for it

(WAIT GUYS LOWKEY WHATS THE RULES ON SELFVOTING- AM I ALLOWED TO DO IT HERE OR IS THAT AGAINST THE RULES)

No, you're allowed...
Do you use AtE as any alignment?

i think i do

And thanks for claim, Marci claim next?

vt

[marcistar]

Like I'd put Marci at 80% scum here because of the hammer and her reaction afterward and how D1 happened. The others are all dependent on her flip and how it happens and whos on it and where. Consider me spiritually on Marci I just don't want to have a runup immediately when I am out.

me dying will clear up the game state plently..? lets just vote me up then LOL

Salsa could you at least give me a basic readslist,,, marci too

oop ive been playing stardew

i townread ssbm_kyouko

i think salsabil is gonna flip scum 100%

the vibes put dwlee at a lean town, but im unsure in this read

im unsure on <<mathblade, not_mafia>>

[marcistar]

why r u against a salsabil elim?

I am kinda thinking Marci Salsa.

That naked hammer was sus as fuck.

And got your message Manatee. You’re still a friendly neighbor.

this was what u og said today, but as time went on... salsabil doesn't seem to be on ur mind as much.. is there a reason u decided to just focus hard on me?

1399 does this post still have any weight in ur mind today??

[marcistar]

i think salsabil is gonna flip scum 100%

Of course you'll

think

that now
Btw, how you can be 100% about anyone’s alignment if you're town, hmm??

convince me on u being town then
it just looks like uve been trying to make ties to people so that theres a route to go down once ur flipped

Cause I'm an easy wagon like

Max

's which doesn’t concern you because......

you think im scum right..?
assume im town; how am i not an easy wagon for scum to vote as well..? i messed up with that hammer last day, scum would have an easy way out by pushing me, right? i would prob be far easier
so ur argument here can just easily be uno reversed

[marcistar]

O my God!! Don't tell me it's

ssbm

and

Math

then

Yes, I know I said

I'm happy to loose

before, but lowkey I won't

Ok

Dwlee

, I

think

I can believe you for a short time

UNVOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: Marci

whats the progression here? "dont tell me its ssbm and math" but then switched ur vote onto me?

Restated, I've said I think one of them in town. In fact, my gut tells me you're a deepwolf and that neither of them are evil. I want a NM flip though.

have u been pushing for a not_mafia elim..? i dont remember seeing it

I think NM > Salsa > Kyo wins right now (assuming NM flips scum)

whyd u not include me at all?

lowkey salsabil self voting makes me think she might be town now hmm
if shes town, not_mafias just taking advantage of the situation.

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my problem with a dwlee elim rn: i feel like if they were scum they could've easily been the hammer for drippinggoofballs wagon to get themselves town cred,
but not wanting to vote drippinggoofball makes them seem a bit uninformed

is this a stupid idea?

[marcistar]

If we do Dwlee today and he is town though, that

eliminates deepwolf Math from the likely pairings imo, given.his persistence on N_M today.

That leaves N_M and Salsabil and I feel like in town!Dwlee world there is no way that's not the team.

is this the only reason to eliminate math from a possible paring?

[marcistar]

Marci wya

Looks like geraintm is normally active before deadline. Would Dwlee, Math, and Manatee vote Salsa with me and he can hammer in the morning?

im so confused, y ru trying to get her elimmed now..? you've been trying for dwlee all day..?

[marcistar]

wheres the votes at rn IM SCARED TO VOTE CUZ I DONT WANNA BY ACCIDENT HAMMER AGAIN-

[marcistar]

I'm a bit paranoid that scum!Marci is looking to imitate her OMB play in this game to trick me because I did TR her yesterday.

im not trying to imitate anything this is just natural sis

Marci is easily confused. I dont know if that correlates, but I believe she could have missed it. There weren't any softs to pick up on in OMB, so I dont know if she would notice them or not. My gut instinct is to say she could have missed it.

im... not sure either.

[marcistar]

im of the opinion that especially with a N_M flip it is most plausible that one of salsa or marci is the last scum

breaking my heart

[marcistar]

bestie i think if it gets down to 4 people no limming will cause town to lose prob LOL

[marcistar]

WAIT LOL IS SHE ACTUALLY SCUM

[marcistar]

... whats that mean?

im a bit confused

[marcistar]

ohh facts

[marcistar]

yall pls say sike
what the heckles

[marcistar]

Imho it’s between Kyo and Marci for the final scum. I have work but will check back later tonight. I think they should give their cases on scum.

yall i like really dont know rn someone come talk with me : - (

[marcistar]

I am getting ready to go to a dinner sorry. You voted for fast night. Why did you vote for fast night if you didn’t know?

i dont think i voted for fast night wth

[marcistar]

isnt it just a certain amount of players

ill come up with something in the next day or so, my ear really hurts and im praying it stops

[marcistar]

does anyone wanna talk

[marcistar]

What's on your mind

O OOP
im sorry i went to the store to get a birthday card for somebody

anyways i wanted to just talk with whoevers here

dwlee,
earlier u said that me vote parking on drippinggoofball was indicative of something, do you know what u think its more likely indicative of yet?

[marcistar]

because drippinggoofball had the worst vibes smhsmh

[marcistar]

yes,
looker had bad vibes as well

[marcistar]

i think looker was making an excuse early on if im remembering it right

[marcistar]

maybe excuse is the wrong word

[Progressionless post until MaxTheFox arrives]

imo this reads like him using max as a shield tho

[marcistar]

yall pls hammer it if u want dont let me hold u back LOL

im still so so confused tho, but dw !!!

[marcistar]

guys this was lowkey kinda funny UGWDHOFJ