[MT2225] Chrono Trigger Chronicles - The Rise/Fall of Yakra

[House]

I have a n0 cop inno on Roden btw

Actually I don't

I don't believe that you don't

VOTE: T3

LaL

[House]

I have a n0 cop inno on Roden btw

You're that paranoid of me now, huh?

I have a n0 cop inno on Roden btw

Actually I don't

Oh. Elim all liars.

VOTE: T3

Lol.

[House]

btw never played Chrono Trigger, I see one of the knights of guardia is like half-sized in the flavor posts, is there a dwarf or something that would explain that?

Fun fact: the short one is

Spoiler:

not me

[House]

Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.

I'm a mason JoaT.

My partner is a mason bodyguard.

The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.

I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.

[House]

Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.

I'm a mason JoaT.

My partner is a mason bodyguard.

The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.

I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.

You're not concerned about a Roleblocker? When I got JoaT in a different game, a RB was also in the mix and completely neutralized me.

Not particularly.

[House]

UNVOTE: T3

I've been told that vote is bad.


VOTE: roden

For 86.

[House]

Up!

[House]

UNVOTE: T3

I've been told that vote is bad.


VOTE: roden

For 86.

Oh I think I know who you partner is lol

You know me so well.

[House]

Is there a point in sowing doubt in the claim?

Ahhh, let him be.

Paranoia is my favorite carnival ride, don't deny him his joy.

[House]

Lukewarm do you have thoughts on the game at this point?

Currently thinking that Roden is town, the unprompted links to scum meta feels townie to me

UNVOTE: Lukewarm
Agree on Roden.

I feel like scum!Roden is tonally different.

we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.

Oof. I think I just got set up as the first NK.

[House]

Wanna clarify further here?

Nope.



112 solidifies my vote, though. That shade on Angel is hideous.

The nervous vibes being put out by Roden would make for a booming bass line.

[House]

Wanna clarify further here?

Nope.



112 solidifies my vote, though. That shade on Angel is hideous.

The nervous vibes being put out by Roden would make for a booming bass line.

Town has zero motivation not to clarify a read. Thanks for scum claiming, we can get you on Day 2.

Ok

[House]

"Nervous vibes on the first IRL day of Day 1 that also will go on for fourteen days" is not a real read or believable thought process.

I can't help that you can't handle already having 2 votes and your sad attempt at shaking them by implying you were nk bait was immediately laughed off.

Toughen up, chief.

[House]

Or... Angel and House are Masons.

How does that kind of speculation help town?

[House]

112 solidifies my vote, though. That shade on Angel is hideous.

The nervous vibes being put out by Roden would make for a booming bass line.

Ngl I want to elim roden solely because of his play style. I forget what the word for that is rn. brain fart moment.

however, his reactions to scum reads is absolute shit and I'm putting that very kindly. lay off a bit and see how he does because I assure you that he is only going to make your scum read on him twenty billion times greater if you dont give him a lot of space.

-nor nor bear bear

I know he scumreads me.

[House]

See? Angel and I obviously aren't partnered.

That's a PT exchange.

Now, move on.

[House]

"Nervous vibes on the first IRL day of Day 1 that also will go on for fourteen days" is not a real read or believable thought process.

I can't help that you can't handle already having 2 votes and your sad attempt at shaking them by implying you were nk bait was immediately laughed off.

Toughen up, chief.

???

What? Lol this can't be a real post. Unless you genuinely believe I'm afraid of getting flash wagon'd 24 hours into Day 1?

Definitely not outside the realm of possibility, given https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=86996

[House]

"Nervous vibes on the first IRL day of Day 1 that also will go on for fourteen days" is not a real read or believable thought process.

I can't help that you can't handle already having 2 votes and your sad attempt at shaking them by implying you were nk bait was immediately laughed off.

Toughen up, chief.

???

What? Lol this can't be a real post. Unless you genuinely believe I'm afraid of getting flash wagon'd 24 hours into Day 1?

Definitely not outside the realm of possibility, given https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=86996

If you're that antsy about votes as town, actually rolling scum = 10x worse on the old nerves.

[House]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

I'm kinda lukewarm on Lukewarm.

[House]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

I'm kinda lukewarm on Lukewarm.

lmfao. ok so essentially I feel like lukewarm is scum for like .... nvm I want to wait a bit to reveal my reason. maybe it will evolve into a stronger one along the way also <.<

-detectivenornor

I actually have the slightest of townleans on him, so I'll be interested in hearing more.

[House]

I'm honestly super easy to read and consider it one of my bigger weaknesses, but most people just don't bother trying to read me for whatever reason. They just vibe check a random post then park their vote.

You're not exactly giving me much to work with.

Who's scum? All you seen to care about is whining about my vote.

Get over it and scum hunt.

[House]

I'm honestly super easy to read and consider it one of my bigger weaknesses, but most people just don't bother trying to read me for whatever reason. They just vibe check a random post then park their vote.

You're not exactly giving me much to work with.

Who's scum? All you seem to care about is whining about my vote.

Get over it and scum hunt.

Edit

[House]

Would we benefit from a massclaim?

We get it.

You don't want scum to think you're my partner.

Mission accomplished. Move on.

[House]

T3's page 7 townbloc: T3, Angel, Roden, House.

If Roden ever starts trying to actually play the game, perhaps I can get on board with that.

Kinda depends on him.

[House]

Spoiler:

Subject: Newbie 2070 - Airplanes | GAME OVER

he has been

Oop

Backing off like this is such a townie move I'd almost consider it a town slip

I wasn't going to comment on it because I thought it was self-evident on it's own, but did you read that as something other than "sorry you are so stupid Val, I shouldn't have expected you to play good like us SE slots." I can only assume there was a very surface level reading if it was taken as an actual apology.

Is there something townie about that?

Yes, what you described is exactly why I think it's a townie reaction. A lot of SEs are kinda predictable in newbie games, at least from what I've noticed. Arrogant/cocky/aggressive SEs have a town tell where they either get sweaty and try to solo solve the game, or they recognize they're getting too sweaty for a newbie game and back off. If they're scum, they're just manipulative because they believe they can easily trick newbies (which they actually easily can).

Nancy here seems to fit the mold for the type of SE I'm describing. If she were scum she wouldn't continue to be hostile to you while backing off, or reiterate how frustrated she is and specifically explain why she's frustrated. It could be AtE admittedly, which is why she isn't confirmed town for me. But I don't see how continuing to push the issue here could sort her further or progress the game in any way.

Subject: Newbie 2070 - Airplanes | GAME OVER

I really need to hear fom Grandpa on what's in James' ISO that makes him think {Clark, Roden}.

yea i just came back with work...

expect like a complete analysis on james readlist on why i do expect its clark / roden in a couple of hours


tldr; this is manly based on james interactions with clark nd roden (the post that nancy pointed out of james) i noticed it from that and started quick skimming jame's iso and seeing their reads.

Oh, you actually are suspecting me. I guessed that was a typo because your earlier post said Chuck instead of Clark, and it looked like you were accusing Nancy of thinking that.

Either way, we've already been over this. For me to be scum I'd have to have hard bussed Blurry/James before the replacement even came in. Psyche had scum read Blurry first, but the wagon didn't start until I repeatedly kept bringing attention to Blurry and soft accused Val of trying to divert attention by arguing with Nancy. Even when James subbed in, I kept my vote on his slot and continued to pressure him.

It's not like I couldn't pivot out to another wagon either. Nancy had multiple people going after her and I'd already stated that I didn't trust Val's intentions at the time. If I was scum, all I'd have to do is completely ignore Blurry and help Val put pressure on Nancy. Literally all I'd have to do is shut up and James would likely still be in the game.

If you don't believe me, go look back at what happened. It starts around page 10 I believe. I specifically say that I think the early wagon on you was bad and that we should look more at Blurry.

Subject: Newbie 2070 - Airplanes | GAME OVER

You guys terrified me with all these votes, I was worried someone was about to get hammered before I could finish catching up on posts.

Val, please don't self hammer, I genuinely don't think it's you. Nancy is town locked for me and your spat with her was so TvT it hurts.

Scum is between Clark and Grandpa,100%. I'm not voting Val and if Clark continues to push him I'll vote Clark today. I've been leaning more towards Grandpa as the game goes on but I'm convinced that any push on Val has to be scum motivated. I don't believe even Nancy votes Val in a F3 scenario and scum likely believes the same.

Look how passive all of this is.

Roden is just town here. He's frustrating people, I understand but town.

-bear beraio

That's all well and good, but he needs to learn that focusing on defending himself instead of actually trying to find scum isn't going to be a productive tactic, especially when he's in no active danger of being eliminated.

It's 2 votes. His focus should be on who is scum, not who is voting him on early d1 for reasons that are obviously going to be flimsy (as all votes are going to be flimsy at this stage).

[House]

Don't complain about my attitude if you're just gonna be rude and complain yourself. I don't know if you're actually town and it would be a bad play to blindly believe your claim.

What do you make of 89?

[House]

Fairly solid post. Nice.

[House]

UNVOTE:

I have a notion on who I want to vote next, but I want to see a little more from that player, first.

[House]

interesting. roden is now acting super towny. I'm inclined to go back to SR him again.

-indecisivenornor

[House]

Don't complain about my attitude if you're just gonna be rude and complain yourself. I don't know if you're actually town and it would be a bad play to blindly believe your claim.

What do you make of 89?

NAI but it's an easy town cred post if scum.

I think scum would be more likely to grant an instant townread over a powerful pr claim because they lack the paranoia of not knowing my alignment.

Of course, my partner would also not have that paranoia, as well.

I was just curious about where your head was with that.

[House]

Titus, wru?

[House]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.

I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now

Have you been reading but not contributing?

Because this post implies that you've been reading but not contributing.

[House]

Angel, while probably being mason had a very towny defense of Roden. From looking at the games myself I agree with this assessment so I think Roden is town.

Is there any particular reason you're trying to paint a target on Angel?

[House]

Angel, while probably being mason had a very towny defense of Roden. From looking at the games myself I agree with this assessment so I think Roden is town.

Is there any particular reason you're trying to paint a target on Angel?

Am I supposed to answer this question?

Before 182 I'd have said yes, but... we're cool.

[House]

The wine is real.

You should believe in it.

It is, after all, right in front of you.

[House]

I'm gonna give T3 another glass of his favorite Cabernet Sauvignon.

VOTE: ssbm

This is who I was referring to in 163.

Since then, 177 happened, which further raised my suspicion... hence 179.

[House]

Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.

I'm a mason JoaT.

My partner is a mason bodyguard.

The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.

I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.

I'm interested in the discussion you had that led to this unconventional decision.

Especially because of a potential roleblocker:

Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.

I'm a mason JoaT.

My partner is a mason bodyguard.

The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.

I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.

You're not concerned about a Roleblocker? When I got JoaT in a different game, a RB was also in the mix and completely neutralized me.

How did the two of you come to think it was a good idea to out a role that begs to be roleblocked?

From what perspective would you not see that coming?

I don't see how any of that is your concern at this point in time.

I've guaranteed that I never see MyLo. That's all you need to know about me for d1.

This kind of post raises flags with me, because absolutely nothing pro-town can come from following the path he's trying to go down.

[House]

• Robert M Hunter

  :
  Renowned Yakra enemy
  
• Roden

  :
  A++++++ posting would buy again
  
• T3

  :
  Suggests the masons may be fake post 106 (I agree with the sentiment) but then goes on to try to find the masons in #118. These are posts that give me pause but I like the rest.
  
• Lukewarm

  :
  Seems genuine.
  
• House

  :
  Healthy enthusiasm, initiative and aggression.
  
• Angel Warriors

  :
  Difficult to read, thoughts seem scattered.
  
• mastina

  :
  No posts.
  
• Child of Fairies

  :
  No posts.
  
• Marashu

  :
  No posts.
  
• Guillotina

  :
  Only posting pictures.
  
• Titus

  :
  not playing the game yet, just RVS vote followed by unexplained vote, then rules talk and reasons why she won't be present as much as usual.
  
• ssbm_Kyouko

  :
  this post is everything https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12913623
  
• Gamma Emerald

  :
  A whole lot of nothing

Not a fan of the rationale on Angel.

IME, scattered thoughts come from town. Scum works to keep their posts logical and show progression.

[House]

Orange is for "neutral" if that wasn't clear.

Ah.

I've always used dark green for town, light green for town lean, yellow for neutral, orange for scum lean, and red for scum.

[House]

TRs: AW, House, Roden
decent folks: T3, Lukewarm, mastina
feels like TvS: Guillotina/kyouko
pls post: Marashu, Child of Fairies
SRs: Titus, RMH

VOTE: Titus

fyi none of these are

confident

reads yet

Meh. RMH is a better vote.

[House]

Reads:
House
Roden
Angel
Guillotina
Gamma
RMH
-- NULL LINE
Child of Fairies/Marashu
Lukewarm/Titus/mastina
ssbm

Why the TR on RMH?

[House]

House - null town (posting fell off)

That happens when I go to work.

[House]

Town has zero motivation not to clarify a read. Thanks for scum claiming, we can get you on Day 2.

That’s just how House be tho

VOTE: RMH

[House]

Meh. RMH is a better vote.

I'm always the Day 1 yeet, let's try to be original.

Why is Guillo a better option?

[House]

Can anyone help me get a read on mastina? Her posts read like a personal diary.

Well may as well, given I've given reads and don't have much to add to them since the game's technically out of the rvs but still feels like it's in the rvs in spite of being out so there's not a lot to have in terms of read progression.

Strongly North of Null:

House
Titus
Gamma Emerald
Angel Warriors
T3

North of Null:

Roden

Null:

Lukewarm (above the not-posters)
Marashu
Child of Fairies
Robert M Hunter (below the not-posters)

South of Null:

Guillotina

Strongly South of Null:

ssbm_Kyouko

I've not been able to get anything more refined than this though.

Bump Lukewarm up & RMH down, and we be vibing.

[House]

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

Self-conscious, much?

[House]

Fair notice: RMH is E-2.

Not that I object, or anything. I think that's a lovely place for him to be.

Just don't want any excuses for a lolhammer.

If you're gonna lolhammer, just own it so I can shake your hand.

[House]

Square Enix

Squaresoft*

Enix had not shit up Square games by purchasing the company at that point.

That happened after Spirits Within, which bankrupted Squaresoft.

[House]

Let me get this straight, you are placing me at the bottom of your reads with my own scumread?

So?

[House]

It's ridiculous to think ssmb and I are teamed

I have no clue why people even try that silly line, considering scum are huge fans of things like, "distancing" & "bussing".

[House]

House just doesn't know I'm the third mason cause I haven't posted in the PT yet

I'm sorry you repped into a scum slot

That's a spicy take and I like it.

I was thinking the same during my catch-up.

[House]

VOTE: dwlee

Welcome to the game.

[House]

*watches scum furiously write down everyone I vote*

[House]

I'm still scumreading RMH with the heat of a thousand suns, ftr.

[House]

I believe third party is a possibility.

How come? I didn't see anything in the OP that hinted 3P.

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

Because this isn't a Normal game and I can't assume we don't have 3P. It's unlikely since I can't imagine what flavor would be used as a reason to include it, but it's not impossible AFAIK.

Why bring it up then?

Just stating my thought process at the time. Not sure why that's being questioned since it does literally zero to aid me if I'm scum.

"Muddying the waters" isn't something I'd refer to as 'zero'.

[House]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

[House]

I'd like some engagement on why AW is town considering I have an unpopular view.

I’m actually warming to AW!scum

Interesting.

[House]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

I did not really think that they were your mason partner before, and mainly just thought that idea was just coming from T3.

But now seeing this post coming from you tho..

UNVOTE:

T3 does seem to be really tuned into my interactions, doesn't he?

[House]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

It also happened after RMH hit E-1, which is probably the biggest reason why I haven’t done much with my AW suspicions

Umm.

It actually happened after RMH *lost* E-1 status & SSBM started picking up steam.

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.10

Robert M Hunter

(4)

:

Angel Warriors - Gamma Emerald - T3 - ssbm_Kyouko

mastina

(1)

:

Guillotina

Dwlee99

(1)

:

House

T3

(1)

:

Lukewarm

ssbm_Kyouko

(2)

:

Robert M Hunter - mastina

Guillotina

(1)

:

Roden

Not Voting

(3)

:

Dwlee99 - Marashu - Titus

With 13 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for voiding is in (expired on 2021-08-09 08:31:06)

Mod Notes

Marashu is V/LA.
Lukewarm is V/LA

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

VOTE: Kyouko

My super-accurate day 1 solve is currently {Kyouko, Lukewarm, Angel}. Prove me wrong.

[House]

VOTE: ssbm

[House]

I believe third party is a possibility.

How come? I didn't see anything in the OP that hinted 3P.

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

Because this isn't a Normal game and I can't assume we don't have 3P. It's unlikely since I can't imagine what flavor would be used as a reason to include it, but it's not impossible AFAIK.

Why bring it up then?

Just stating my thought process at the time. Not sure why that's being questioned since it does literally zero to aid me if I'm scum.

"Muddying the waters" isn't something I'd refer to as 'zero'.

I guess, but that's kind of a vague thing to say tbh. Saying 3P is possible shouldn't muddy the waters for anyone. If I'm 3P and people don't expect it then I just don't say it, and if I'm scum all it does is draw attention to me. Do you think it's scummy for me to say that?

Actually, opening the door and stepping back for others to fill the void with speculation is a very sus strategy.

That's no town motivation in even bringing up 3P unless there's actual recurrence of 3P.

[House]

I believe third party is a possibility.

How come? I didn't see anything in the OP that hinted 3P.

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

Because this isn't a Normal game and I can't assume we don't have 3P. It's unlikely since I can't imagine what flavor would be used as a reason to include it, but it's not impossible AFAIK.

Why bring it up then?

Just stating my thought process at the time. Not sure why that's being questioned since it does literally zero to aid me if I'm scum.

"Muddying the waters" isn't something I'd refer to as 'zero'.

I guess, but that's kind of a vague thing to say tbh. Saying 3P is possible shouldn't muddy the waters for anyone. If I'm 3P and people don't expect it then I just don't say it, and if I'm scum all it does is draw attention to me. Do you think it's scummy for me to say that?

Actually, opening the door and stepping back for others to fill the void with speculation is a very sus strategy.

That's no town motivation in even bringing up 3P unless there's actual evidence of 3P.

EBWOP

[House]

Kinda leaning towards {ssbm, Roden, dwlee}, ATM.

[House]

Did that actually happen though? I don’t think anyone saw that and was like “there might actually be a 3P”

I don't care what happened or didn't happen after.

I care about the purpose behind introducing the idea in the first place.

[House]

You can walk in to a bank waving a gun around and leave without robbing it, but you're still going to jail even if you didn't take a cent or shoot anyone.

[House]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Guillo opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Guillo.

[House]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Lukewarm opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Lukewarm.

EBWOP. It's late.

[House]

I can take or leave Dwlee, and Kyouko and I are clearly apprehensive of each other. It should be one or the other but not both of us in a hero solve.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

However, the way you picked up the torch and started pushing AW that Lukewarm opened the door to when ssbm became a competing wagon with Robert is more sus than the original push by Lukewarm.

EBWOP. It's late.

Can you please read what actually happened. Titus was the one who specifically asked me to meta AW, it had nothing to do with the other wagons. I was town reading her before that. And I'd already questioned Kyouko before that as well so you can clearly see I already didn't trust her.

Yeah. That's something she and I disagree on. I was sitting back to see where that goes, but I missed the post you're referring to.

[House]

Also I'm guessing that House is confirmed now? Cause I'm assuming that's who got shot

He was a mason claim. Why wouldn't he be getting shot? Especially cause he claimed a bodyguard mason, scum probably thought that they would at least get the bodyguard.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Dwlee99

I'm thinking it's conjecture, but I can see the logic.

[House]

Also I'm guessing that House is confirmed now? Cause I'm assuming that's who got shot

huh? house claimed bodyguard. that's not how bodyguard works. this sounds like a scum claim

-nronornronror

No I didn't.

I'm Mason JoaT. Partner is BG.

N1 action was commute. Partner protected {not me}.

[House]

What's the case on Robert?

He is your counterwagon now, it's either you or Robert, what do you think about that?

That's a scum as fuck post.

[House]

VOTE: Dwlee99

Was that seriously an E-1 vote that early in D-2?

[House]

this hurts but I think you are the person I'm most confident is scum. I literally can't let myself be swayed otherwise I'm gonna have all town reads and that's an issue. there is no way my scum pool is all town. it is impossible. y'all are playing my heart but I have to be right on at least two of my poe scum pool.

-nornornor

I don't follow this logic.

Don't you have 4 players in your scum pool? If so, how do you have all townreads if he flips green?

[House]

VOTE: RMH
I’ll still keep watch but I think Titus’ response to me was the sort of response I would get from town!her

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

This is E-2 fwiw

No reason given. But no one is going to question this.

Including you, apparently.

[House]

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

No reason given but feeling guilty about being opportunistic.

That one triggered me, too.

[House]

I think Dwlee99 feels overshadowed by me and see they have no chance of getting thread control with us townleaders still alive and his entrance into the thread looks as TMI and a forced way to try to look town.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Nora, vote with me, let's kill Dwlee

Not a fan of the attempt to end this day so quickly.

[House]

I want to lim in Roden and Marashu today I think. Maybe Titus as well?

No.

[House]

After much thought, I'm basically certain that {roden, robert, dwlee} has at least 2 scum.

-nornor

What makes your townreads on the other people in the game this strong?

The aren't actually but that is my poe at the moment. given how united(hard to explain but its a vibe) this town feels to me, I think the poe is correct.

we're not united and its hard to explain the feeling. but its this feeling of finding people correctly. that feeling I've only felt once before when I was reading over a game that I wanted to rep into. I figured out who the last scum was immediately because of this feeling of finding/unity/hard to explain vibes

-bearnornor

Okay, can rate your townreads in order of confidence? I want to see where my gut matches your reads.

sure!

From towniest to least towny:
No touch zone:
House
Titus
Guillotina
Towny:
Gamma
Lukewarm
T3
Mastina
Marashu
Scum by poe: You, Dwlee
Scum:
Roden
Robert

Completely disagree on Guillo.

Bump LW up.

Bump T3 down.

[House]

Wait who is DROOOOOO?

WHERE WAS THAT???

[House]

Id' like to look at Gamma, AW, Titus, mastina.

This is a certifiably terrible take.

[House]

Hello. The thread has opened, and there are 6 new pages.

Don't have time right this minute to read them.

Last night i got to VOTE: Gamma as where i wanted to go for the day

Spicy take.

Why?

[House]

Hi house

Hi!

[House]

Dwlee isn't confirmed town just because of the DROO vote btw. I don't see why scum outs the fact they have an extra vote just to put Dwlee at E-3. It looks more like they're trying to scare people off their wagon.

I think so too. I think that Droo vote on Dwlee could be scum WIFOM, to make us think “ooooh, that sneaky vote on Dwlee, they gotta be town”.

Amateurs.

[House]

The case is that Kyo spewed you scum, you came in prepared to push the droo WIFOM, and you TMI'd droo not being able to hammer.

I don't believe that you've read my games more than a cursory skim. I'm also obligated to say metabad.

How can town spew someone as scum?

Seems like that would make the game insanely easy.

[House]

Voting me here is a scum claim.

I so wish I had been here at that time.

[House]

I don't know what your case on me is. You only ever scum read me when I don't play nice or town lock you, so I don't have a logical case to defend myself with.

lmao. you've never "played nice" or "town locked" me so where is this use of meta coming from? I could easily scum read you even if you were "playing nice" or "town locking" me. you have no meta on me. dont pretend like this is an OMGUS type of thing. it's not. you're scum and Kyoto already said as much.

it seems like there's more support for roden than Robert?
VOTE: Roden
we can wagon this if people won't let me take out obvscum.

-nornorbear

Bad vote is bad.

[House]

Nora I'd literally rather spite you and get us both voted out if you're going to go out of your way to throw this game for town. I want to go to the dead PT, see your confirmed alignment, and laugh as you crumble Day 3. I'm fairly certain I can catch scum this game, but you've made this such a miserable experience that I don't want to bother anymore. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but I think you're just always like this.

VOTE: Roden

Roden stop. Unvote now!

White knight alert.

[House]

You didnt want Robert, now you don't want Dwlee but you want Robert but you are voting Roden, you are making me fucking paranoid Noraa.

I always wanted Robert?
Robert isnt picking up traction so roden is what I suggested!

Noraa, do you think Dwlee and I are T/T?

possibly. dwlee seems genuine enough and I hard TR you.

Ew.

[House]

White knight alert.

is it still a white knight when it's a self vote?

Yes. Town self-votes often.

It's easy for scum to try to look like the good guy by defending LHF, which self-voters are by default.

Nice attempt at a discredit, but try again.

[House]

I am catching up, and reading through Day 2, I am reaching the point of having too many scum reads :/

Robert and Roden both look a lot worse today then they did Day 1 imo

So my scum pile is now looking like : Robert, Roden, Gamma, Angel Warriors, Mastina.

The only person I am really ready to trust is House.

Idk why Roden is in there.

I also distrust the statement about me. I hope you have logic behind that besides just my claim and the missing NK.

[House]

Nice attempt at a discredit, but try again.

= it was humor

I'm not discrediting a town read who is suspecting the player I'm already voting.

Yes. Laughing at/Ridiculing someone is a common discredit tactic.

Weren't you shading me on d1?

[House]

VOTE: roden

Bad Luke.

[House]

Vote Count 2.4

Roden

(4)

:

Dwlee99 - Angel Warriors - Roden - Lukewarm

Dwlee99

(4)

:

Titus - Guillotina - Marashu - T3

Angel Warriors

(1)

:

Robert M Hunter

Not Voting

(3)

:

mastina - House - Gamma Emerald

With 12 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for casting into the Gate is in (expired on 2021-08-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes

T3 is V/LA

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

Hot take: the scum team are all voting right now on different wagons.

If I'm wrong, Gamma is the non-voting scum.

[House]

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

FoS this tell.

Fine with D or G or AW.

VOTE: Dwlee99

What tell? There is no factional kill, so yes!

GOOD FUCKING JOB TO WHOEVER BLOCKED IT

I'd make it bigger but it's not possible.

Get rekt wolves!

HAAAAAAA!

G I really must ask, why did you post these?

I got excited.

well it looks more like you are pissed the kill got blocked and are letting that emotion seep through while trying to act like it's all good

though tbh I have a thought on this subject. G can you link a few of your scumgames? I kinda just got the vibe this was like how you acted D2 in Large Normal 230

Nah, im excited im getting bragging right after game.

Dude, Go get them yourself, i dont know where they are. You know i love bragging about my excellent scum games but i got no time.

That soft is so hard it gave me a concussion.

[House]

I want to lim in Roden and Marashu today I think. Maybe Titus as well?

Why Titus? I feel like she’s been pretty clearly town for me since our interaction D1

Explain this interaction cause I wasn't there

I voted Titus to get some more content out of her, and when she responded she brought up concerns about my AW TR that while kinda mistaken, still made me reconsider that read since I realized I'm kinda weak to both heads when it comes to getting pocketed, and I really think the way she talked that over with me as well as her other posts at that time showed she was genuinely solving. I especially liked how she took the fact that she was mistaken about Noraa being in Townstumps.

Titus is spewed town on Gamma red flip.

[House]

VOTE: Guillo
Okay I guess I'm kind of bored with Roden anyway so I'm fine seeing where this goes.

All of a sudden, I'm less interested in a G wagon.

[House]

I think Dwlee99 feels overshadowed by me and see they have no chance of getting thread control with us townleaders still alive and his entrance into the thread looks as TMI and a forced way to try to look town.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Nora, vote with me, let's kill Dwlee

Not a fan of the attempt to end this day so quickly.

Not a fan of this misrepresentation, i never advocated for a fast chop.

[House]

Scum is(gamma, robert, ?????)

I'm with you on that.

[House]

I think Dwlee99 feels overshadowed by me and see they have no chance of getting thread control with us townleaders still alive and his entrance into the thread looks as TMI and a forced way to try to look town.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Nora, vote with me, let's kill Dwlee

Not a fan of the attempt to end this day so quickly.

Not a fan of this misrepresentation, i never advocated for a fast chop.

Aaaaaaaand?????

I won't lower myself to pointing out what's obvious more than I already have. It's not productive.

[House]

Towncore: Roden - Angels - T3 - House

Town lean: Marashu, Lukewarm

Null: Titus, Mastina, Gamma

Scum: Dwlee, Robert

Bump Lukewarm,Titus, & Mastina up, T3, Mara, and Gamma down.

T3 needs to earn some cred, here. Why are you townreading him so hard?

[House]

Scum is(gamma, robert, ?????)
And ????? Is mara, dwlee or roden preference to mara, backup roden
Second backup dwlee

This is where I'm also at but swapping Titus/mastina for Roden.

Fucking yuck.

[House]

VOTE: robert

Whoops

Also, I'm calling on burden of proficiency on my never touch tier.

If any of

House
Titus
Or guillotina are scum here, all the hats will be eaten

The confusion is real.

But probably for reasons only one other person in this game can possibly fathom.

[House]

VOTE: robert

Whoops

Also, I'm calling on burden of proficiency on my never touch tier.

If any of

House
Titus
Or guillotina are scum here, all the hats will be eaten

The confusion is real.

But probably for reasons only one other person in this game can possibly fathom.

[House]

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

No reason given but feeling guilty about being opportunistic.

That one triggered me, too.

VOTE: RMH
I’ll still keep watch but I think Titus’ response to me was the sort of response I would get from town!her

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

This is E-2 fwiw

No reason given. But no one is going to question this.

Including you, apparently.

Not quite true as Gamma is in my scum reads. That's me questioning it and answering the question.

This screws with my RMH/Gamma/T3 team world.

Not that I ever considered it a concrete reality, but not outside the realm of possibility.

This makes me question that.

[House]

Towncore: Roden - Angels - T3 - House

Town lean: Marashu, Lukewarm

Null: Titus, Mastina, Gamma

Scum: Dwlee, Robert

Bump Lukewarm,Titus, & Mastina up, T3, Mara, and Gamma down.

T3 needs to earn some cred, here. Why are you townreading him so hard?

Fuck no on Mastina and Titus, what have they done? What has Mastina done besides promoting their twitch?

I like T3 and Mara, they have expressed intent to chop the people i wanna chop, similar mindset is a townie mindset.

Because I said so.

As far as T3 and Mara goes, talk is cheap. Get back to me when they're on a wagon that flips red. Their posting is entirely unimpressive.

[House]

T3's page 7 townbloc: T3, Angel, Roden, House.

Angel and Roden town if T3 scum.

[House]

T3 is invested in speculating about my partner.

Or... Angel and House are Masons.

Angel, while probably being mason

[House]

Reads:
House
Roden
Angel
Guillotina
Gamma
RMH
-- NULL LINE
Child of Fairies/Marashu
Lukewarm/Titus/mastina
ssbm

He's so convinced Angel is a mason, but rates Roden higher in his reads.

This list isn't real.

VOTE: T3

[House]

Slightly concerned because RMH is also voting with me + House.

Reads:
House
Roden
Angel
Guillotina
Gamma
RMH
-- NULL LINE
Child of Fairies/Marashu
Lukewarm/Titus/mastina
ssbm

why does RMH voting with you concern you if he's above your null line?

Credit to Gamma for the question.

[House]

why does RMH voting with you concern you if he's above your null line?

Oh-he was meant to be slightly below null on that.

Same I'm not buying the response.

If his reads are thrown out that hastily that he "accidentally" put a below null read as top town, that's because the list is bullshit.

[House]

why does RMH voting with you concern you if he's above your null line?

Oh-he was meant to be slightly below null on that.

I'm not buying the response.

If his reads are thrown out that hastily that he "accidentally" put a below null read as top town, that's because the list is bullshit.

PEdit

[House]

I'm not moving off T3.

[House]

T3 is invested in speculating about my partner.

Or... Angel and House are Masons.

Angel, while probably being mason

That was yesterday nobody gives a fuck about your partner today. I sure dont, so why even bring it up?

Let’s catch a wolf, your mason spotlight dimmed down yesterday.

History doesn't simply evaporate overnight.

Motive is cemented in actions regardless of how long ago they happened.

[House]

Im not voting T3. I want Dwlee or Robert as priority, if i cant get them then someone in the nulls. Take it or leave it. Good night

Consider it left. I'm voting caught scum.

[House]

Credit to Gamma for the question.

Can I get credit too

Spoiler:

post 301 is hella performative. Like, oh no, I am concerned that a scum read is voting with me. Checks his scum reads, and he has 6 people listed as scummier then the person in question. Even if you make the correction of moving RMH just bellow the null line, it is still a silly stance for town to take, and seems much more like scum trying to appear paranoid of their reads.

Sadly, no.

The question was not only asked, but also (badly) answered.

Theoretically, 305 could have been a distancing attempt by a teammate that noticed a misstep.

Not that I'm speculating that that's what happened, just why I can't give you credit for 305.

[House]

Notes on Guillo:

Despite our disagreement, I remain firm on my read that he is town. I just believe that he is misguided town.

He is placing too much emphasis on the fact that T3 is willing to yeet his preferred suspects and not considering that his reads on those suspects may be wrong which would give T3 incentive to agree with him.

Consensus only matters when red is flipping. Consensus reads when town is getting eliminated is a BAD thing and all assumptions must be questioned.

[House]

If you say so.

I could be on board for a T3 elim, but I am kind of wanting to put my vote back on Roden

If you say so.

I could be on board for a T3 elim, but I am kind of wanting to put my vote back on Roden

What do you mean you could be on board? You said he was scum in 305. The exact post you're asking House to get credit for.

So you reach for a vouch from House, say you might vote T3 even though you scum read him, then say you'd rather vote me anyway even though you haven't cased me?

VOTE: Roden

I'll be interested in taking a harder look at Lukewarm on a red T3 flip.

[House]

I'll be interested in taking a harder look at Lukewarm on a red T3 flip.

Particularly because he is waiting to see whether my case on T3 takes off before joining it.

I would think that a towny who scumread T3 so much on d1 that he cased him and wanted credit for calling out a scum slip would be more active in voting for his supposed suspect.

Roden is a red herring. T3 is scum and Lukewarm is trying to distract from my case since I refused his distance attempt because he knows he stands to gain nothing when T3 flips.

[House]

Angel Warriors/Titus/Guillotina/Roden

Gamma Emerald

Marashu/mastina

Dwlee99/Robert M Hunter

T3/Lukewarm

[House]

Angel Warriors/Titus/Guillotina/Roden

Gamma Emerald

Marashu/mastina

Dwlee99/Robert M Hunter

T3/Lukewarm

Fix't

[House]

Like house. Not only did I case him, I was actively trying to get people on the wagon

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

Self-conscious, much?

Looks like, you should join me on a T3 vote

But when I finally came around, your lim-boner went limp.

That made me sad. I don't deal well with sad.

[House]

House j would bet my life on guillo beign town. I am just as confident guillo is town as you are confident your mason buddy is town

You need to catch up on my reads.

[House]

Gamma, I'd like you to flavorclaim.

Not unless Guillotina role claims first.

Fuck no

[House]

Also, T3 should probably die at some point because he’s absolutely openeolfing

Today would be excellent.

[House]

Also, T3 should probably die at some point because he’s absolutely openeolfing

Today would be excellent.

Again, why?

Ask your team. I already said why.

[House]

There id literally no case against me except for "Not towntelling" and "he might do that if he was scum"

Untrue.

I'd call faking reads a pretty damning case.

[House]

If House votes you I think that’ll be the point a wagon on you can actually form

That's not an option for me today, sorry.

[House]

There id literally no case against me except for "Not towntelling" and "he might do that if he was scum"

Untrue.

I'd call faking reads a pretty damning case.

*wat*
Again, that readlist is not faked.

Right.

Because town always puts other reads ahead of those they consider MASON.

[House]

There id literally no case against me except for "Not towntelling" and "he might do that if he was scum"

Untrue.

I'd call faking reads a pretty damning case.

*wat*
Again, that readlist is not faked.

Right.

Because town always puts other reads ahead of those they consider MASON.

I didn't and still don't know for a fact Angel is mason.

Neither does anyone else, but those speculating she is has her up there with me in their reads.

[House]

Titus, where you at?

I miss you.

[House]

Spoiler:

Slightly concerned because RMH is also voting with me + House.

Reads:
House
Roden
Angel
Guillotina
Gamma
RMH
-- NULL LINE
Child of Fairies/Marashu
Lukewarm/Titus/mastina
ssbm

why does RMH voting with you concern you if he's above your null line?

why does RMH voting with you concern you if he's above your null line?

Oh-he was meant to be slightly below null on that.

Here's how this looks to me:

- RMH shade
- Fabricated reads list (how can you forget a legitimate suspicion of someone that you put them that far up in your reads?)
- Called out
- B/S ass covering excuse that doesn't read as genuine at all

[House]

Ah scratch that last post. I transposed the R names when I was reading the list.

[House]

It's still sus, but not as bad as it originally looked to me.

[House]

E-1ing ssbm and asking for a flavorclaim before a roleclaim.

That is not townie. That's NAI.

1) You were still fishing for info.
2) Flavor isn't a reliable thing to ask about, as scum may have flavor fake claims (depending on the mod).

[House]

Ok

Time to lim cyrus.

[House]

I mean, welcome!

[House]

YES CYRUS MY MAN
YOU ARE SO EASY TO READ HELLO THANK YOU

[House]

YES CYRUS MY MAN
YOU ARE SO EASY TO READ HELLO THANK YOU

Hopefully cyrus rolled scum!

Nope.

[House]

VOTE: Marashu

If you townread this, why?

That's not a terrible vote.

T3 is better, though.

[House]

VOTE: Marashu

[House]

House townreads me and i do him, i dont see him leading a wagon on me unless he wants to throw.

It looked like House thought your were scum in some of his catch up

Then when you keep reading...

[House]

Up!

[House]

I'm still scumreading Gamma, and that makes me sad.

[House]

VOTE: house hello to you to .

[House]

cyrus, you have a lot of catching up to do.

I suggest you get to it.

[House]

cyrus, you have a lot of catching up to do.

I suggest you get to it.

i see so your climeing mason . i kinda dislike masons why because if scum clime it they can make it to d3 easy. but if town does they can die n1. but i see you have a bg partner which helps a lot.

Scum fake claiming mason is a death sentence.

They never make it to LyLo.

[House]

Someone take my hand, I'm lost in the woods and there are wolves.

I have it on good authority that Mara dude is a good choice.

[House]

Alternatively, you might want to consider Gamma if RMH is not an option for you.

[House]

Tell me more of this Gamma.

It's just a tonal thing, for me.

I don't give a damn about the DROOO shit. It's just something scum can use to manipulate town, as far as I'm concerned.

[House]

Tell me more of this Gamma.

It's just a tonal thing, for me.

I don't give a damn about the DROOO shit. It's just something scum can use to manipulate town, as far as I'm concerned.

do you think me the type to have my own vote stolen as scum using a scum ability? Not saying you're wrong if you do, just curious. Although I do think you're probably not considering how my play today fits within the narrative you have going on for that.

Reread the post you quoted.

[House]

Tell me more of this Gamma.

It's just a tonal thing, for me.

I don't give a damn about the DROOO shit. It's just something scum can use to manipulate town, as far as I'm concerned.

do you think me the type to have my own vote stolen as scum using a scum ability? Not saying you're wrong if you do, just curious. Although I do think you're probably not considering how my play today fits within the narrative you have going on for that.

Reread the post you quoted.

I meant that question as a "do you think that fits my playstyle/personality specifically?", not as a general question

I'm specifically avoiding any and all questions and discussions about that mechanic because it's unproductive.

End of the day, town is deciding who gets eliminated.

[House]

Yeah, nah. I am a fickle bitch.

Gamma is town.

[House]

House, since you role claimed, would you mind favor claiming as well?

I stated my intentions on day 1.

[House]

YOU ROLLED TOWN!!!!!!!

Duh.

I knew that before he was even in the game.

[House]

Spekkio could be an INVENTOR

Spekkio refers to himself as the "Master of War". When the party first meets him, he tells them that he has seen many battles from the End of Time. He tells the party that many years before they were born there existed a kingdom where magic was abundant and anyone could use it. However, people began to abuse their power over the years. Eventually, it became so bad that only fiends were allowed to use magic. He goes on to say that the party has the determination and that magic only needs the power of the heart and inner strength. He says that magic is divided into four types of magic: Fire, Water, Lightning and Shadow. He tells them that Crono is adept at Lightning, Marle is adept at Ice, and Lucca is adept at Fire. He then tells them all to think magic and then, starting from the entrance to his room, walk clockwise along the walls three times. After they do this, Spekkio grants them their magical powers.

VOTE: RMH

[House]

Pretty sure Spekkio would be evil, according to a Google search it's a boss in the game

Clearly, you've never actually played.

Spekkio is a trainer.

[House]

btw never played Chrono Trigger, I see one of the knights of guardia is like half-sized in the flavor posts, is there a dwarf or something that would explain that?

Although I dismissed this initially, the dwarf is probably Frog. I seem to remember him being smaller than the other heroes.

[House]

T3 or robert today

That's all i ask

100x this.

I think the mispost was a huge scum slip.

[House]

The opening post implied we had 7 VTs and three PRs who were likely Crono Lucca and Frog. I don't think it makes any sense for somebody to be Informed that Frog is in the game when that's already implied by the fact that Frog fights Yakra in the video game.

It also doesn't make any sense for Gaspar or Spekkio to be here since they don't get introduced until AFTER the boss fight. And why the hell would Cyrus be in the game when in the video game he'd already died? Cyrus has nothing to do with the Yakra boss fight at all.

This isn't a general Chrono Trigger themed game, it's specifically about the Yakra arc. T3 is just trying to bait Frog into outting themself.

I agree with this. I do think that it would be strange to have 3 characters who can be cleared as town by flavour, though, and the OP does call them "weirdoes" and not necessarily Crono, Lucca, and Frog. But we're rapidly getting to more named roles than flavour suggests.

Crono, Lucca, and Frog were the team during the Yakra battle.

They were fighting to rescue Nadia (the cute blonde princess).

[House]

I was speculating on Spekkio's role.

Why would you be hiding your information that he was in the game?

That's pro-scum.

As Spekkio is at the end of time which isn't accessible until after Yakra is dead, he is not one of the 3 heroes (weird people), and VT flavor is Knight of Guardia.

[House]

That left dude is totally a frog

That's why I posted the screenshot (which is from a ScreenRant article), to show his size in comparison to other heroes.

[House]

I'm Melchior and my neighbor is Lukewarm.

This is scum.

Melchior is not connected to the Yakra battle. He repairs Masamune for Frog AFTER the battle.

[House]

True (though they were actually fighting to save Leene, since Nadia was already written out at the time).

Splitting hairs. The reason they went back in time at that point was to save Nadia after she poofed out of existence.

Leene was her ancestor. Dead Leene = no Nadia.

[House]

The fact that House isn't claiming Balthasar is good enough for me, I think (I also missed the flavour claim from Robert, apparently).

I just want to be clear, House: Are you claiming one of {Crono, Lucca, Frog}?

I'll tell you what I told T3.

I stated my intentions on d1.

It's stupid to out more flavor claims before RMH is resolved.

[House]

Don't you think the mod would give scum credible safe claims?

The whole point of fake claims is that they're meant to look credible but able to be solved if you are knowledgeable of the flavor.

I played CronoTrigger for years. I know the Yakra battle VERY well.

[House]

Don't you think the mod would give scum credible safe claims?

The whole point of fake claims is that they're meant to look credible but able to be solved if you are knowledgeable of the flavor.

I played Chrono Trigger for years. I know the Yakra battle VERY well.

PEdit

[House]

I ask because I'm trying to figure things out, and if you're claiming 2/3 of that group, then that helps us sort you and the people who have flavour-claimed, especially post-flip.

This is d3 discussion.

I'm not saying anything until Robert is dead, because it will just lead to more information for scum.

[House]

It's after 10 and I need to work in the morning.

I'll be back tomorrow evening. Good night.

[House]

Having trouble getting to sleep. Took some Melatonin.

Wanted to point this out before it kicks in:

I never played this game.

LOL, if I were scum I would have a safe claim and no one would be the wiser.

Instead I've got one of those red herring flavors that are so popular these days.

Fucking lol.

[House]

Your claim both 1v1s with me and 1v1s with house.

So we always flip you first.

I am happy to accept the 1v1 lol

Just to be clear, are you saying that you are not in a neighborhood with Robert?

If you are, was there or was there not a discussion about Spekkio?

[House]

Your claim both 1v1s with me and 1v1s with house.

So we always flip you first.

I am happy to accept the 1v1 lol

Just to be clear, are you saying that you are not in a neighborhood with Robert?

If you are, was there or was there not a discussion about Spekkio?

At no point have I ever been in a neighborhood with Robert.

He has just been posting bs since his slip

Thank you. I wanted that on the record before I did this.

Your claim both 1v1s with me and 1v1s with house.

So we always flip you first.

I am happy to accept the 1v1 lol

This may be my sleep-deprived brain screwing with me, but I think it's time for me to drop my gambit in light of this 1v1.

I am not a Mason JoaT. I am a Knight of Guardia.

I wanted to draw the NK to spare our PR's a potential bullet. I was hoping to bait the kill for 2 nights when there was no kill on the first, but I think it's anti-town to maintain it in this scenario.

As such, RMH's claim conflicts only with Luke's.

[House]

I am not a Mason JoaT. I am a Knight of Guardia.

For the skimmers... now scroll up and read the rest of the post.

[House]

I don't remember who asked me to flavor claim earlier today, but that player is FoS.

I claimed that I commuted last night, which scum would know was a lie if they roleblocked me.

[House]

He coulid just be scum with a bulletproof and there is no mason bodyguard at all.

This is hilarious, by the way.

Robert is speculating I'm bulletproof scum and, what... my team SHOT ME?

[House]

Spoiler:

I mean, if you flip town, I think we flip House next.

This reads to me like Marashu is fishing for Titus to shade me, which would eliminate her as my "partner".

I accept this trade off.

And this sequence is why Marashu should be lit on fire.

Marashu is right.

There is no way that a townie actually believes that there is a game that can be solved by having everyone state their flavor.

He coulid just be scum with a bulletproof and there is no mason bodyguard at all.

VOTE: Marashu

I've seen town believe almost everything.

I've seen town believe that CCing a suicide bomber was a good play.

So if Robert flips town do you believe House?

PEdit - That's exactly why I want to hear from Lukewarm before flipping Robert

I mean, if you flip town, I think we flip House next.

I accept this trade off.

And this sequence is why Marashu should be lit on fire.

Marashu is right.

There is no way that a townie actually believes that there is a game that can be solved by having everyone state their flavor.

He coulid just be scum with a bulletproof and there is no mason bodyguard at all.

VOTE: Marashu

I've seen town believe almost everything.

I've seen town believe that CCing a suicide bomber was a good play.

So if Robert flips town do you believe House?

PEdit - That's exactly why I want to hear from Lukewarm before flipping Robert

I don't believe House and Roden must be right to be genuine.

I don't believe House and Roden must be right to be genuine.

Oh. I think I see what you mean, at least regarding House.

[House]

Spoiler:

I mean, if you flip town, I think we flip House next.

I accept this trade off.

And this sequence is why Marashu should be lit on fire.

Marashu is right.

There is no way that a townie actually believes that there is a game that can be solved by having everyone state their flavor.

He coulid just be scum with a bulletproof and there is no mason bodyguard at all.

VOTE: Marashu

I've seen town believe almost everything.

I've seen town believe that CCing a suicide bomber was a good play.

So if Robert flips town do you believe House?

PEdit - That's exactly why I want to hear from Lukewarm before flipping Robert

I mean, if you flip town, I think we flip House next.

I accept this trade off.

And this sequence is why Marashu should be lit on fire.

Marashu is right.

There is no way that a townie actually believes that there is a game that can be solved by having everyone state their flavor.

He coulid just be scum with a bulletproof and there is no mason bodyguard at all.

VOTE: Marashu

I've seen town believe almost everything.

I've seen town believe that CCing a suicide bomber was a good play.

So if Robert flips town do you believe House?

PEdit - That's exactly why I want to hear from Lukewarm before flipping Robert

I don't believe House and Roden must be right to be genuine.

I don't believe House and Roden must be right to be genuine.

Oh. I think I see what you mean, at least regarding House.

This reads to me like Marashu is fishing for Titus to shade me, which would eliminate her as my "partner".

Fixed

[House]

I staged my play so that AW could be perceived as my overt "partner" since they were playing along, and Titus was my "never questioned, never explained" townread (covert partner potential), so this fishing by Mara is super sus to me.

[House]

(take notes, T3... this is how you fakeclaim)

[House]

House is 100% town do this imo

No reason for scum to drop the facade rn, when they know their buddy is getting ready to flip scum and they will look better leaving the 1v1 in place.

My reveal was pro-town, but I disagree about why.

Fake claiming is a dangerous game because it leads to false assumptions. I didn't want those assumptions to be tied directly to the reasons behind an elimination, regardless of the flip.

[House]

Fair enough.

[House]

He was trying to draw the NK so anything's possible.

"He wants to be night killed, so let's shoot him" is the weirdest thought process ever for deciding the NK.

[House]

Just curious Robert, did you guys also roleblock me?

[House]

I don't give a damn about the DROOO shit. It's just something scum can use to manipulate town, as far as I'm concerned.

Come on guys I'm also the drooo vote, you're just helping the scum.

Now stop townreading people based on vote shenanigans.

[House]

VOTE: rmh
Again, I'm thinking this is a weird role madness game with some PR's. cyrus is 100% town and he got Gaspar.

Honestly, I'm not actually fussed about the PR flavor.

Once I catch a slip, I throw the world at scum to watch the flail.

[House]

Angel Warriors/Titus/Guillotina/Roden

Gamma Emerald

mastina/T3

Dwlee99

Marashu/Lukewarm

Yes. Lukewarm. His refusal to back up Robert's neighborhood story seemed to genuinely surprise Robert and his reaction felt real.

I knew there had to be away least 1 scum between them, but both isn't out of the question.

[House]

Also, I don't think Gamma ever tries to kill me if he suspects I'm fake claiming Mason. There's too much fun in the shenanigans of outing the gambit.

[House]

Angel Warriors/Titus/Guillotina/Roden

Gamma Emerald

mastina/T3

Dwlee99

Marashu/Lukewarm

Yes. Lukewarm. His refusal to back up Robert's neighborhood story seemed to genuinely surprise Robert and his reaction felt real.

I knew there had to be at least 1 scum between them, but both isn't out of the question.

PEdit

[House]

cyrus/Roden/House/AW
Gamma
mastina/Dwlee
Marashu

And Lukewarm is

Titus?

[House]

I don't think RMH can live until elo. I also don't think RMH flips scum here. He's flailing but it's town flail. He's still fighting.

He should give one last read wall, then we flip Marashu tomorrow.

He literally admitted to being red.

Damnit Titus, stop making me sus.

[House]

Do I just hammer this or

I think Robert forgot that they stole Gamma's vote

I didn't steal gamma's vote but you can hammer.

My team was always doomed, as no one has yet to ever town read me on this site in any of my completed games.

I don't know if this will make you feel any better, but it was not all a waste. Your slip resulted in House dropping his JoAT Mason claim this day phase, so the scum team can now potentially aim their night kill more effectively.

I know the slipping like that must suck, but silver lining and everything <3

We always knew it was fake.

Tbh I really wasn't sure how Mason Bodyguard was supposed to work flavor wise. I assumed House was bullshitting the specifics of the PRs to confuse scum, but I wasn't expecting a fake claim.

We did!

He was trying to draw the NK so anything's possible.

[House]

Yes. Lukewarm. His refusal to back up Robert's neighborhood story seemed to genuinely surprise Robert and his reaction felt real.

I knew there had to be away least 1 scum between them, but both isn't out of the question.

This is a bit silly, but a problem for another day

Hopefully not for me.

[House]

My vote is on T3 in spirit.

[House]

btw house, we thought Titus was the mason so she was always so high on our lists. damn. I wish she was a mason cuz now I'm worried she's scum.

At least I got that part of my gambit right.

[House]

VOTE: T3

Cyrus wouldn't be in the game my dude, and you pretty obviously tried to get Frog to out themself. You also supposedly have a Rolecop check, which makes zero sense for flavor btw, but you haven't told us who you've checked.

I literally never heard of Chrono Trigger before joining the site.

[House]

I have the feeling Frog is our protective.

Fae let slip that he was a cursed mage, when in game he's actually a cursed Knight.

[House]

Oh, and I'm only speculating because I'm eliminated as a potential PR.

Anyone who isn't, shouldn't.

[House]

I can confirm my role tonight by giving Frog a bulletproof vest.

You're full of crap, mang.

Whomever rolled Frog, keep that big yap of yours shut.

[House]

I believe T3 is Cyrus.

Hope all claims until I get off work please.

[House]

Stop humoring T3.

He's Cyrus the Ghost, a boss battle in the middle ages.

They want to kill Frog so they have open season on me, because (as crap as town as I usually am), I'm crushing it this game.

VOTE: T3

[House]

The flavor makes some sense because Cyrus was Frog's best friend according to the wiki

Cyrus is dead in the game and was raised from the dead to KILL FROG.