[MT2225] Chrono Trigger Chronicles - The Rise/Fall of Yakra

[Gamma Emerald]

If any of y’all watch Twitch, mastina (who has a different name on Twitch) is actually live with Chrono Trigger right now!

Also VOTE: T3, cuz he’s a goober

[Gamma Emerald]

btw never played Chrono Trigger, I see one of the knights of guardia is like half-sized in the flavor posts, is there a dwarf or something that would explain that?

Fun fact: the short one is

Spoiler:

not me

It's obviously Ludwig

[Gamma Emerald]

I would absolutely appreciate it if you didnt make this fakeclaiming a habit

I second this. It has not worked out well for you in the past, so please don't just keep doing it

Yeah
If not just for the fact you’re coming off remarkably as someone I’ve vowed to make suffer were they to return to this site

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s @T3, to be clear

[Gamma Emerald]

But I'm loyal babysitter.

Play the game or rep out

Serious statement

... the fakeclaims were a joke and they got some discussion rolling.

What discussion

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, I do download all of my vods so my plan is to, eventually, smartly, upload the videos to youtube. I need to make sure it's allowed though because I can't afford to have my google account terminated which is why I haven't done so already.

I believe the only restriction to putting VODs on YouTube from Twitch is there has to be a 24 period between the original stream and the VOD upload

[Gamma Emerald]

uhoh mastina's day 1 fabricated readlist.

Mastina does this as both alignments though

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Lukewarm

I voted.

What for?

[Gamma Emerald]

piece of advice: dont rep into newbie games. typically the rep outs are scum.

other thing, LMFAO when the fuck did pooky say that please link that lmaooo

-bearnor

Every time I've repped into a newbie I think I've been town.
I just consistently roll Mafia Goon.

I just a string of games where like 5/7 of them were scumgames

[Gamma Emerald]

just had*

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.

I'm a mason JoaT.

My partner is a mason bodyguard.

The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.

I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.

The veracity of this claim is tbd but I don’t think it’s scummy or anything like that

[Gamma Emerald]

Is there a point in sowing doubt in the claim?

I agree with this
I don’t think it being fake would be scum-indicative, and if it’s real, pushing it just adds pressure that might result in more info coming out that could rather costly.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town has zero motivation not to clarify a read. Thanks for scum claiming, we can get you on Day 2.

That’s just how House be tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm
What if we massclaim?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

I'm kinda lukewarm on Lukewarm.

lmfao. ok so essentially I feel like lukewarm is scum for like .... nvm I want to wait a bit to reveal my reason. maybe it will evolve into a stronger one along the way also <.<

-detectivenornor

I’ll be waiting

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking House and AW are town rn
This is somewhat solid for now, but could be revised later
Both of them just have generally good feelings about them

[Gamma Emerald]

I didnt bother to read roden's scum game last time, but he is actually right that his scum game is all nice.
a brief brief skim truly does show that he plays "nice" in scum games
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Roden, I get it. you're town but there's no reason to act the way you are. I understand that you think your scum and town games are vastly different but that doesn't mean other people can see it as clearly. we are sorting you in good faith and you gain nothing from lashing out at everyone.

I tried very hard to work with you in summertime. If you decide to treat me the way you did that game, I am going to be very upset. Please stop. I will town case you. Stop arguing with people and just think. You are engaging people that you think are town in such bad faith. That is not going to get you anywhere. Literally, they are only going to get upset and think you are scum. What do you gain from that? You gain nothing so please stop.

-beario

I play like this as town because I rely more on logic than vibes. I genuinely have trouble reading interactions and I'm not good at catching lies/reading intentions. But I'm fairly competent at catching people when it comes to their reactions.

In our newbie game I knew you were town and town locked you once I figured out your playstyle, and you almost read me correctly multiple times but our playstyles clashed too much. I genuinely believe we lost that game the moment you replaced out because Bulge wasn't bothering to solve. We both heavily suspected Italiano/Cabd and I think we could have Day 1'd him if we came together there.

Btw I don't actually scum read you. Your responses are actually pretty townie but I pushed to see how genuine you were. I think you're genuinely trying to read me here.

I'm honestly super easy to read and consider it one of my bigger weaknesses, but most people just don't bother trying to read me for whatever reason. They just vibe check a random post then park their vote.

You're not exactly giving me much to work with.

Who's scum? All you seen to care about is whining about my vote.

Get over it and scum hunt.

What do you think I'm doing?

Don't complain about my attitude if you're just gonna be rude and complain yourself. I don't know if you're actually town and it would be a bad play to blindly believe your claim.

I think I've hit a real sore spot with House. Reads like genuine town frustration though.

Hm, Roden seems like town rn
Angel made solid points and I think this both just has a good aura to it as well as taking Noraa's advice on board perhaps

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.

I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now

Have you been reading but not contributing?

Because this post implies that you've been reading but not contributing.

What's the problem with that?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.

I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
"I understand where the T3 votes are coming from"
The.... 2 RVS votes?
VOTE: ssbm

There could be something here
T3 got four votes in RVS in Townstumps and I think someone posted something like this, it might have been NK15 in which case the trend would be that scum does this sort of thing

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not interested in the who, I am interested in the thought process behind the decision.

Your post reads like a performative Look At Me I'm Town.

from a first impression, your posting feels perhaps more LAMIST than House, by a considerable margin

[Gamma Emerald]

So I looked at Townstumps and while it wasn't saying hte votes made sense, Mia and Maya treated the RVS votes against FMFT (T3's alt) as serious, so the vibes are potentially similar
but having thought about it, outside of a meta context I think ssbm's comment was reasonable, just because the votes were initially RVS doesn't mean they necessarily stayed that was, and T3 did do some potentially scummy stuff

[Gamma Emerald]

"This head is giving me scum vibes and the other head is also giving me scum vibes, feelings are strong enough to place down a serious vote but oh! Btw I don't actually scum read your slot, I was just reaction testing"

eh it makes sense to me, reading the post where he talked about the reaction test
Roden also feels a bit like me during Donner Party where I had you as confident town for a while but let my own bad meta work sway me

[Gamma Emerald]

although actually it looks like that's mom posting, not noraa

[Gamma Emerald]

• Robert M Hunter

  :
  Renowned Yakra enemy
  
• Roden

  :
  A++++++ posting would buy again
  
• T3

  :
  Suggests the masons may be fake post 106 (I agree with the sentiment) but then goes on to try to find the masons in #118. These are posts that give me pause but I like the rest.
  
• Lukewarm

  :
  Seems genuine.
  
• House

  :
  Healthy enthusiasm, initiative and aggression.
  
• Angel Warriors

  :
  Difficult to read, thoughts seem scattered.
  
• mastina

  :
  No posts.
  
• Child of Fairies

  :
  No posts.
  
• Marashu

  :
  No posts.
  
• Guillotina

  :
  Only posting pictures.
  
• Titus

  :
  not playing the game yet, just RVS vote followed by unexplained vote, then rules talk and reasons why she won't be present as much as usual.
  
• ssbm_Kyouko

  :
  this post is everything https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12913623
  
• Gamma Emerald

  :
  A whole lot of nothing

3/4 of your scumreads seem to boil down to "low content" for your reasoning
that seems like some pretty weak solving imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Who am I kidding? there is no way I'll be able to keep up posting images only in a game this long. I give up!
Memes and reaction images are only good for marathons.

weakling
try playing with Katsuki, or perhaps LLD (though tbh I'm kinda put off from playing with LLD after

things

have happened)

[Gamma Emerald]

(That having been said, I do have a confession--because of my love of Chrono Trigger, I abhor and absolutely refuse to play Chrono Cross or acknowledge it. I know there is in the DS remake of Chrono Trigger a bonus boss that ties the game to Chrono Cross; I will refuse to show that onstream because I refuse to acknowledge Crono Cross in any way shape or form. I realize the creators have the right to dictate the world they create as they please, but literally fucking over the entire cast of the original game with a complete and total Happy Ending Override means that I as a consumer of their game have my own right to choose not to play or acknowledge the game that shits on my favorite game in every way shape and form.)

on this subject: while I won't attempt to convince you otherwise about Chrono Cross (because I actually AGREE that the tie-in Chrono Trigger ending was a horrible idea), I think you should check out a track the person who went on to make Undertale (Toby Fox) made for that bonus boss because it's really good imo

[Gamma Emerald]

But I'm loyal babysitter.

Play the game or rep out

Serious statement

... the fakeclaims were a joke and they got some discussion rolling.

What discussion

Roden says I'm town for it, then Luke says it's NAI.

I guess that's some, but idk if it merits the sort of rut it felt like it was putting the game in
it felt like it was dominating conversation for a few pages with little actual merit to it

[Gamma Emerald]

So I looked at Townstumps and while it wasn't saying hte votes made sense, Mia and Maya treated the RVS votes against FMFT (T3's alt) as serious, so the vibes are potentially similar
but having thought about it, outside of a meta context I think ssbm's comment was reasonable, just because the votes were initially RVS doesn't mean they necessarily stayed that was, and T3 did do some potentially scummy stuff

That's not what I meant in 177 and I already clarified this. The votes I was talking about were House's and Lukewarm's, not yours, which I was still thinking was RVS at the time.

okay
idk if that really impacts what I said though

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Lukewarm

I voted.

What for?

RVS.

why were you doing an RVS vote on page 3 like that

[Gamma Emerald]

Who am I kidding? there is no way I'll be able to keep up posting images only in a game this long. I give up!
Memes and reaction images are only good for marathons.

weakling
try playing with Katsuki, or perhaps LLD (though tbh I'm kinda put off from playing with LLD after

things

have happened)

I just don't have the patience, you ive tried in a few games but the longest i lasted with images only is one full 10-day day phase

I said that more like "try playing with them, they'll show you how it's done"
although I only saw LLD do it once ever
katsuki has managed to last until like middle-D3 with just posting videos iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.

I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now

Why?

I think you're an easy vote right now because of the memeing and the talks about massclaiming, but I don't see the AI posting from you yet. I also don't think any of the votes on you yet look particularly disingenuous, and separately I'm TRing Luke. I believe Gamma's vote was RVS iirc.

I want to vote Guillotina right now because I'm not seeing anything suspicious at a deeper level in anyone else yet, and their posts during the pages on pages of House, T3, and Angel Warriors were very sideliney - just posting images mocking the state of the conversation. At best it's useless to town, but at worst it's just scum that is afraid to take part in a significant way but wants to get involved

somehow

so it doesn't look too much like they're lurking. It's quite early to be saying anyone is lurking, but that's the feeling I get from those image posts.

This player must be new. If I randed scum I would be leading town to their dismay right now. Guillotina

afraid

to take part?



I was out at the beach with my family yesterday, so I just chilled here for a bit.

this post gives me

feelings

idk whether it's a scum or town post though

[Gamma Emerald]

I keep skimming these walls.

when I first saw this I was like "lol same" but thinking about it, idk what walls this is talking about???

[Gamma Emerald]

TRs: AW, House, Roden
decent folks: T3, Lukewarm, mastina
feels like TvS: Guillotina/kyouko
pls post: Marashu, Child of Fairies
SRs: Titus, RMH

VOTE: Titus

fyi none of these are

confident

reads yet

[Gamma Emerald]

why does RMH voting with you concern you if he's above your null line?

[Gamma Emerald]

• Robert M Hunter

  :
  Renowned Yakra enemy
  
• Roden

  :
  A++++++ posting would buy again
  
• T3

  :
  Suggests the masons may be fake post 106 (I agree with the sentiment) but then goes on to try to find the masons in #118. These are posts that give me pause but I like the rest.
  
• Lukewarm

  :
  Seems genuine.
  
• House

  :
  Healthy enthusiasm, initiative and aggression.
  
• Angel Warriors

  :
  Difficult to read, thoughts seem scattered.
  
• mastina

  :
  No posts.
  
• Child of Fairies

  :
  No posts.
  
• Marashu

  :
  No posts.
  
• Guillotina

  :
  Only posting pictures.
  
• Titus

  :
  not playing the game yet, just RVS vote followed by unexplained vote, then rules talk and reasons why she won't be present as much as usual.
  
• ssbm_Kyouko

  :
  this post is everything https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12913623
  
• Gamma Emerald

  :
  A whole lot of nothing

3/4 of your scumreads seem to boil down to "low content" for your reasoning
that seems like some pretty weak solving imo

Quickly while I'm on break --

This guy is shading me because I noticed is iso is mindless fluff and I scumread him for it.

He's being disingenuous because here he is shading my

page 11

"solve" for being "weak" when three players haven't posted yet and another one is posting cartoons.

me being fluffy is strictly NAI, I expect anyone who knows me should be able to back this up
I guess your solve being weak is potentially excusable for how early it is, but I still dislike how empty your readlist feels in general for having reasons attached. The most meaty read would probably the T3 read, and that's because it has caveats

[Gamma Emerald]

Meanwhile, the guy shading me for weak reads writes:

TRs: AW, House, Roden
decent folks: T3, Lukewarm, mastina
feels like TvS: Guillotina/kyouko
pls post: Marashu, Child of Fairies
SRs: Titus, RMH

VOTE: Titus

fyi none of these are

confident

reads yet

when I call your reads "weak" I mean that they are pathetic
I'm not impressed by a read list that looks like it took single digit minutes of thought to make

[Gamma Emerald]

TRs: AW, House, Roden
decent folks: T3, Lukewarm, mastina
feels like TvS: Guillotina/kyouko
pls post: Marashu, Child of Fairies
SRs: Titus, RMH

VOTE: Titus

fyi none of these are

confident

reads yet

You interact with RMH more, in fact you call his read on me bad for being low content. Yet, you don't interact with me at all (minus agreeing to skimming like I am) and vote me. Why?

Also, why are AW so high in your readslist given what happened in Townstumps? They haven't been townie in their posting either.

What is the connection between AW and Townstumps? I’d think you’d point to OTHER games if you wanted me to reconsider my AW read. Is this you going ThorHead as scum?
As for why I voted you over RMH, I felt like voting you would draw out more posts which I could use to form a more conclusive read on you, since I felt like my sample size of posts I was reading you on here wasn’t enough to be sure it was similar to Situation Room. I’d say my hunch was potentially right.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I have no issue with.

Is this just about how you refer to me?
I thought you were saying you had no issue with my play initially which felt way off from what you’d expressed but I didn’t want to jump to a conclusion and when I thought on it this was the logical explanation for why you’d say this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Noraa in townstumps had scummy posts early that basically got ignored in the endgame. Here, you're basically ignoring their scummy posts. They also got widely townread by emotion over content, which is Noraa posting here.

I generally point to the most recent game. What games should I be comparing Noraa to?

Noraa wasn’t IN Townstumps!!! Mia and Maya was Nancy Drew and DkKoba.
As for games I’d expect you to refer to, either Dance of the Dark Fairy or the Pokémon UPick Alisae ran
And out of those probably the latter because I was snowed by Mara in that game, and thinking about it the posting might be similar. Meanwhile I feel like town!Mara is kinda a problem child of sorts
If going by the Noraa head, I also missed Noraa!scum in Draft Mafia, though I’m not 100% on if you were in that

[Gamma Emerald]

Looking at the image links it’s probably because there’s a bunch of garbage text mucking it up
I had trouble posting images from wikia until I identified that block of text getting in the way

[Gamma Emerald]

This is my mood @ 356
What the actual FUCK SquareSoft?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: RMH
I’ll still keep watch but I think Titus’ response to me was the sort of response I would get from town!her

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

This is E-2 fwiw

[Gamma Emerald]

Damn it I should have read all the way down

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah could have sworn guillo was voting me.

Mastina why do you scumread me?
Gamma what about me and Guillo looks TvS to you?

I don’t think either of you look good in the interaction but it’s doesn’t seem like theater

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Mastina

Still wanna hear your reasoning for my placement in your list.

why is Roden town for his assestment of your interactions with ssbm but mastina is concerning enough to get voted?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Mastina

Still wanna hear your reasoning for my placement in your list.

why is Roden town for his assestment of your interactions with ssbm but mastina is concerning enough to get voted?

Because Mastina has not given an assessment, she is yet to explain my placement in her list.

that's fair, my bad

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe third party is a possibility.

How come? I didn't see anything in the OP that hinted 3P.

I believe third party is a possibility.

how so?

Because this isn't a Normal game and I can't assume we don't have 3P. It's unlikely since I can't imagine what flavor would be used as a reason to include it, but it's not impossible AFAIK.

Why bring it up then?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm strongly inclined to trust Noraa on this.
The town: T3, House, Angel, Guillo, Roden
The scum: Lukewarm, RMH

Why is Lukewarm scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually what made you respond to that in particular?

I don’t think it’s likely myself and my first blush response was to view the suggestion with skepticism
Thinking about it now I kinda regard it as harmless

[Gamma Emerald]

momma bear you've never modded a scum game of mine. what do you mean?
also why do you SR me beside whatever you said about emotions?

-Noraaaaaaa

PookyTheMagicalBear vs. FlavorLeaf. Blade Dancer is my modding account now because my inbox is full.

Right now, I am trusting my emotions.

You know you can delete old PMs right?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like some engagement on why AW is town considering I have an unpopular view.

I’m actually warming to AW!scum

[Gamma Emerald]

House just doesn't know I'm the third mason cause I haven't posted in the PT yet

I'm sorry you repped into a scum slot

That's a spicy take and I like it.

I was thinking the same during my catch-up.

I could see this.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus
I don't like some of her early posts

So does that mean you’ve actually been catching up?

[Gamma Emerald]

Damn…I keep getting these kind of townreads here. First i got townread for being cocky and now this.

I also felt like you were town for similar reasons
In fact I feel better about those town vibes now that I know I’m not the only one that got them

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's hilarious that Angel is speculated to be my partner, then all of a sudden there's this push to eliminate them.

If I was a more savvy person, I'd probably consider the person that started that push as scum for trying to eliminate a suspected Mason in order to fish out a claim.

But I'm not that nuanced.

It also happened after RMH hit E-1, which is probably the biggest reason why I haven’t done much with my AW suspicions

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kyouko
I can back this given I think guillo vs. kyouko is TvS (could be TvT being feels unlikely) and I’m feeling confident about guillo being town, so the scales tip out of Kyouko’s favor

[Gamma Emerald]

Did that actually happen though? I don’t think anyone saw that and was like “there might actually be a 3P”

[Gamma Emerald]

I Really think we should be looking closely at Guillotina today. I Believe that Kyouko was onto something when pushing him.

[Gamma Emerald]

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

FoS this tell.

Fine with D or G or AW.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Yeah that G post pinged me too

Also I'm guessing that House is confirmed now? Cause I'm assuming that's who got shot

huh? house claimed bodyguard. that's not how bodyguard works. this sounds like a scum claim

-nronornronror

It’s not a scum claim but yeah BG would die if it succeeded

[Gamma Emerald]

also mom isn't here but I want to say one thing that she was 100% on last night

Mom says that Robert's wagon is INCRIMINATING.

Kyoto's built up so easily whereas Roberts felt like people were constantly keeping tabs on it. Mom thinks that is incriminating and the fact that Kyoto and us built up as counterwagons and received a huge amount of heat means Robert has to be scum here.

im in agreement with that and think Robert is the safest boot today because its basically 100% guaranteed to flip red.

-nronornronr

I want thoughts on this because its something I wasn't totally sold on for most of the night but I think the fact that Robert hasn't even been brought up yet in two pages is really damn interesting.

pretty sure Robert is a red flip but I need some opinions on it.

-berabearbear

I feel like there’s something here at least. I don’t think your PoE is perfect FYI, and the lack of logic doesn’t help

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote Count 2.1

Roden

(1)

:

Dwlee99

Dwlee99

(3)

:

Marashu - Titus - Angel Warriors

Robert M Hunter

(2)

:

Guillotina - T3

Not Voting

(6)

:

Robert M Hunter - mastina - Roden - Lukewarm - House - Gamma Emerald

With 12 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for casting into the Gate is in (expired on 2021-08-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

I don’t think I trust this Robert wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: RMH
I’ll still keep watch but I think Titus’ response to me was the sort of response I would get from town!her

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

This is E-2 fwiw

No reason given. But no one is going to question this.

Is everyone so braindead that a vote without the reasoning in that exact post comes across as completely reasonless? I swear anytime I make a vote like that I get this EXACT dipshit accusation. Now, I don't think I gave concrete reasons for it elsewhere (pretty much I only remember calling out his FoSes being low content slots), but I still think this is a dumb comment just generally

[Gamma Emerald]

wtf Roden stop being dramatic

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.

I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
"I understand where the T3 votes are coming from"
The.... 2 RVS votes?
VOTE: ssbm

Good catch.

VOTE: ssbm

fuckin got em
VOTE: RMH

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No reason given.

here's a reason: you're not actually contributing rn, just shading lol

[Gamma Emerald]

739, 740, 741 LMAO PROVING MY POINT

literally FLASHWAGON THIS HOLY FUCK ahhhhhhh

Another one giving no reason.

Yup you're either super fucking simple or deliberately taking shit out of context

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you think maybe the quick hammer changes things a little? Or did that escape you?

FYI I might not be in the best mood rn because my dad decided to be a dick about my bad performance on one of my college finals

[Gamma Emerald]

So let's recap.

I stated my Gamma scum read.

Gamma voted me for no reason.

Then four more players voted me for no reason.

At the time several players hadn't even posted yet.

I'm giving you the facts. You decide .

I voted you because your play looked half-assed in a scummy way. You’re continuing to play that way, seeing your posting today.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think he townread me because he scumread kyoko

From looking at his iso, it appeared to be the exact opposite. He scum read Kyouko, because he town read you.

Damn…I keep getting these kind of townreads here. First i got townread for being cocky and now this.

I also felt like you were town for similar reasons
In fact I feel better about those town vibes now that I know I’m not the only one that got them

VOTE: kyouko
I can back this given I think guillo vs. kyouko is TvS (could be TvT being feels unlikely) and I’m feeling confident about guillo being town, so the scales tip out of Kyouko’s favor

I don’t think any of you have the FULL picture
I initially thought both Guillo and kyouko were individually scummy, but not teamed. I’d already been feeling like Guillo’s energy had a potential towniness to it at that point. Eventually that energy became enough to make guillo a TR individually. At this point however I saw that kyouko got speedlimmed and flipped town, with the person I thought she was TvS with dropping the hammer. So I think it’s reasonable for guillo to fall into SR range when I weigh the things that had happened since I last posted.

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you think maybe the quick hammer changes things a little? Or did that escape you?

FYI I might not be in the best mood rn because my dad decided to be a dick about my bad performance on one of my college finals

I didnt intent to quickhammer, you know how i play with my votes to wage for reactions, when i realized kyoko was at -1 it was already too late.

I don’t exactly buy it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I do, however, think T3 is just as culpable in it

[Gamma Emerald]

if it helps, I could see gamma scum solely because I've played like 10 games with gamma. every time I scum read him, he's town. the one singular time I town read him, he was scum.

-nornor

Pretty sure you’ve tried this before and been way off the mark. So I guess you learned nothing from before, then?

[Gamma Emerald]

I keep getting confused every time I see AW call Marashu “Mara” because I associate that with Momrangal who’s one of the AW heads

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay you’re definitely BSing on some level wrt your meta on me Noraa, because I’ve been scum against you more than once

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think it is alignment indicative, but I find it extremely grating.

If confidence irritates you, work on your self steem.

Trust me, i had low self steem at one point in my life, cause by those close to me, the irony huh.

You're not confident. You're arrogant.

Yep

Why are you commenting on someone else’s feud like this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay you’re definitely BSing on some level wrt your meta on me Noraa

Pls explain what you mean by that.

Noraa is being blatantly wrong. To memory I’ve been scum against her at least twice, but she think I’ve only been once. I don’t think it’s deliberate yet, but I think it should be corrected because depending on which game she remembers would potentially shape what her read on me means.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to lim in Roden and Marashu today I think. Maybe Titus as well?

Why Titus? I feel like she’s been pretty clearly town for me since our interaction D1

[Gamma Emerald]

Why am I on here twice? Why is Titus so high?

I’m more concerned about G being in the top tier

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like there’s something here at least. I don’t think your PoE is perfect FYI, and the lack of logic doesn’t help

If it's flawed help me refine it. Where are my holes at and what do you think of the situation as a whole

I just feel like you’re probably clearing people off too little. Now, you’re welcome to tell me

why

your PoE is how it is by explaining what those who aren’t in it have done that you TR.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay you’re definitely BSing on some level wrt your meta on me Noraa

Pls explain what you mean by that.

Noraa is being blatantly wrong. To memory I’ve been scum against her at least twice, but she think I’ve only been once. I don’t think it’s deliberate yet, but I think it should be corrected because depending on which game she remembers would potentially shape what her read on me means.

ok how am i wrong? i only remember one scum game against you. you can go ahead and name both and what you think would influence my read on you here in both before I tell you which one so I can get a more accurate explanation.

-nornornonronronror

There was Haunted Village and Dance of the Dark Fairy
Out of those I’m thinking you’re remembering DotDF because that one you (as AW) hard TRed me until you guys got limmed D2
Meanwhile idr you having a solid opinion on me in HV

[Gamma Emerald]

If it’s a sneaky town vote they need to claim now.

Actually never mind.

No if it is from town it should be claimed

[Gamma Emerald]

Then case me and vote me out. I'd love for both you and AW to have egg on your face if you both really are town.

Anyone else bothered by the sheer amount of suicidal bravado Roden is showing? I’m starting to think it’s somewhat performative

[Gamma Emerald]

Then why accuse me of TMI if you don't actually believe I TMI'd?

This feels like a bad faith question

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is norbearbear, momrangal or noraa?

noraa

Then case me and vote me out. I'd love for both you and AW to have egg on your face if you both really are town.

Anyone else bothered by the sheer amount of suicidal bravado Roden is showing? I’m starting to think it’s somewhat performative

Where do you draw the line?

When it starts feeling like the emotions put out are agenda-driven
Roden keeps trying to goad people into trying to push him out, likely as a ploy to make people feel nervous about it.

[Gamma Emerald]

There was Haunted Village and Dance of the Dark Fairy
Out of those I’m thinking you’re remembering DotDF because that one you (as AW) hard TRed me until you guys got limmed D2
Meanwhile idr you having a solid opinion on me in HV

ok and why do you think I scum read you here then? I died in haunted village on day 1. no I didn't have an opinion on you I believe.

-norbearbear

Besides “never TRing town!me” (which I don’t think is entirely true anyway) I’m not exactly sure, you haven’t said much besides that to explain your SR that I can recall
There’s obviously much different circumstances but in DotDF I had to put on one hell of a show to make it out of Day 1 even, so it’s kinda no surprise I got townread by you, that was pretty much the goal. So like, I don’t think you should just be saying I’m scum because of some axiomatic declaration of “I always TR scum!Gamma” because like, the one time you’ve called out was most likely because of the specific situation.
Also, I recall you typically end up way off track whenever you try to use a tell like this, so I think you should definitely reconsider.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: RMH
I’ll still keep watch but I think Titus’ response to me was the sort of response I would get from town!her

VOTE: rmh
Let's all accuse me of opportunism.

This is E-2 fwiw

No reason given. But no one is going to question this.

Is everyone so braindead

that a vote without the reasoning in that exact post comes across as completely reasonless? I swear anytime I make a vote like that I get this EXACT dipshit accusation. Now, I don't think I gave concrete reasons for it elsewhere (pretty much I only remember calling out his FoSes being low content slots), but I still think this is a dumb comment just generally

That's not a nice thing to say.

Sorry
It’s just as I said, that seems to happen most times I post a naked vote despite posting reasons elsewhere, and I kinda snapped

[Gamma Emerald]

he votes Titus and looking through his iso, I cannot figure out why

smh clearly you didn’t look hard enough

TRs: AW, House, Roden
decent folks: T3, Lukewarm, mastina
feels like TvS: Guillotina/kyouko
pls post: Marashu, Child of Fairies
SRs: Titus, RMH

VOTE: Titus

fyi none of these are

confident

reads yet

You interact with RMH more, in fact you call his read on me bad for being low content. Yet, you don't interact with me at all (minus agreeing to skimming like I am) and vote me. Why?

Also, why are AW so high in your readslist given what happened in Townstumps? They haven't been townie in their posting either.

What is the connection between AW and Townstumps? I’d think you’d point to OTHER games if you wanted me to reconsider my AW read. Is this you going ThorHead as scum?
As for why I voted you over RMH, I felt like voting you would draw out more posts which I could use to form a more conclusive read on you, since I felt like my sample size of posts I was reading you on here wasn’t enough to be sure it was similar to Situation Room. I’d say my hunch was potentially right.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it’s fitting I pagetop when shooting back at a misguided comment from the pagetop tracker guy

[Gamma Emerald]

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

FoS this tell.

Fine with D or G or AW.

VOTE: Dwlee99

What tell? There is no factional kill, so yes!

GOOD FUCKING JOB TO WHOEVER BLOCKED IT

I'd make it bigger but it's not possible.

Get rekt wolves!

HAAAAAAA!

G I really must ask, why did you post these?

[Gamma Emerald]

he votes Titus and looking through his iso, I cannot figure out why

smh clearly you didn’t look hard enough

TRs: AW, House, Roden
decent folks: T3, Lukewarm, mastina
feels like TvS: Guillotina/kyouko
pls post: Marashu, Child of Fairies
SRs: Titus, RMH

VOTE: Titus

fyi none of these are

confident

reads yet

You interact with RMH more, in fact you call his read on me bad for being low content. Yet, you don't interact with me at all (minus agreeing to skimming like I am) and vote me. Why?

Also, why are AW so high in your readslist given what happened in Townstumps? They haven't been townie in their posting either.

What is the connection between AW and Townstumps? I’d think you’d point to OTHER games if you wanted me to reconsider my AW read. Is this you going ThorHead as scum?
As for why I voted you over RMH, I felt like voting you would draw out more posts which I could use to form a more conclusive read on you, since I felt like my sample size of posts I was reading you on here wasn’t enough to be sure it was similar to Situation Room. I’d say my hunch was potentially right.

Both your post and the post you just quoted from Titus came after that vote... My point being that at the time of the vote, you had not pointed out any reason you were suspicious of Titus.

well of course I didn't, I was reaction testing
I'm pretty sure you're better than this, dude.

[Gamma Emerald]

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

FoS this tell.

Fine with D or G or AW.

VOTE: Dwlee99

What tell? There is no factional kill, so yes!

GOOD FUCKING JOB TO WHOEVER BLOCKED IT

I'd make it bigger but it's not possible.

Get rekt wolves!

HAAAAAAA!

G I really must ask, why did you post these?

I got excited.

well it looks more like you are pissed the kill got blocked and are letting that emotion seep through while trying to act like it's all good

though tbh I have a thought on this subject. G can you link a few of your scumgames? I kinda just got the vibe this was like how you acted D2 in Large Normal 230

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm pretty sure you're better than this, dude.

I have already stopped voting you, and was actaully in the middle of doing meta work on Nora to see if a potential meta tell holds any water (and so far I have looked at 3 games and it is holding true so far) so was likely to move back to Noraa soon.

But this sure does feel like a scum line

just because you're not pushing me actively doesn't make it less concerning when you make bad accusations

[Gamma Emerald]

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

Good job to whoever block the scum's kill. They should get a medal and an after game host award

FoS this tell.

Fine with D or G or AW.

VOTE: Dwlee99

What tell? There is no factional kill, so yes!

GOOD FUCKING JOB TO WHOEVER BLOCKED IT

I'd make it bigger but it's not possible.

Get rekt wolves!

HAAAAAAA!

G I really must ask, why did you post these?

I got excited.

well it looks more like you are pissed the kill got blocked and are letting that emotion seep through while trying to act like it's all good

though tbh I have a thought on this subject. G can you link a few of your scumgames? I kinda just got the vibe this was like how you acted D2 in Large Normal 230

Nah, im excited im getting bragging right after game.

Dude, Go get them yourself, i dont know where they are. You know i love bragging about my excellent scum games but i got no time.

uhhh what? also, idk how many games you've played, if there's a bunch of them it's gonna take a while

[Gamma Emerald]

That is not even the strongest reason I voted you gamma, like I voted you before I even read anything from today... but okay.

I find the people who look at a 1v1 shitfest, and say "this is TvS, but I am not sure which is the scum" to be more likely to be scum (unless of course their partner is in the 1v1, but I clearly do not think that you are partners with either of Kyouko of Guillo).

I also felt like when I looked at your iso, you seemed to be following thread consensus with your takes.

And, as you put it "I Believe that Kyouko was onto something when pushing" you Gamma, and she had multiple games worth of meta she was pointing to.

Excuse me, I was pretty clear past a certain point I thought it was ssbm D1
also if we wanna talk "scum lines" that last line here feels rather scummy, iirc that was from the OMB game, and the way you're trying to twist my words against me for what seems like a pretty weak shot is not great. Also, kyouko tends to be overconfident, by a lot. I think this might be something you should be aware of as well, actually, seeing as you were in one of the games where that was most evident.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am catching up, and reading through Day 2, I am reaching the point of having too many scum reads :/

Robert and Roden both look a lot worse today then they did Day 1 imo

So my scum pile is now looking like : Robert, Roden, Gamma, Angel Warriors, Mastina.

The only person I am really ready to trust is House.

actually, I think Robert's posting today aside from him shading the people who voted/were voting him has been possibly decent.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to lim in Roden and Marashu today I think. Maybe Titus as well?

Why Titus? I feel like she’s been pretty clearly town for me since our interaction D1

Explain this interaction cause I wasn't there

I voted Titus to get some more content out of her, and when she responded she brought up concerns about my AW TR that while kinda mistaken, still made me reconsider that read since I realized I'm kinda weak to both heads when it comes to getting pocketed, and I really think the way she talked that over with me as well as her other posts at that time showed she was genuinely solving. I especially liked how she took the fact that she was mistaken about Noraa being in Townstumps.

[Gamma Emerald]

Luke. There’s a very good reason for why I said I believed Kyouko on Guillo, but unless I have to I don’t want to have to get into it. Just know you’re barking up the wrong fucking tree.

[Gamma Emerald]

My statement was: someone would put me at E-1 without the droo vote, which would be a hammer (with the droo vote). But then he countered that I TMI'd it not being able to E-1

Tbh I don’t get how one could logically think it wouldn’t be able to E-1
Unable to hammer, sure, but being specifically restricted from placing the E-1 vote seems arbitrary

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Guillotina
Was half-tempted to vote Roden but I really think this is where people should be voting.

[Gamma Emerald]

You have exactly 1 other game as Angel Warriors. I checked it for my potential new shiny meta tell, and it landed town.

and you're saying this shiny meta tell is landing me scum here?
well your meta tell is shit then

-disappointednornor

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t know which games of yours are scum games though, you do. I don’t need links per se, but names would definitely help. But I guess even that’s too much for you?

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t know which games of yours are scum games though, you do. I don’t need links per se, but names would definitely help. But I guess even that’s too much for you?

And you think i know those games by memory? No, i have to actually look for them, it would be easier if i had a wiki but seems like i have not qualified to get a wiki so… you will have to do with reading me based on this game or do the due diligence Gamma.

You can make your wiki yourself, you know.

[Gamma Emerald]

And I don’t find it that hard to recall games I was scum in
For instance, since I returned to the site most recently I’ve been scum in Townstumps, Situation Room, Owners Market Blitz, Tarot UPick Deviant Moon Edition, and Yggdrasil (though I barely participated in that)

[Gamma Emerald]

And I don’t find it that hard to recall games I was scum in
For instance, since I returned to the site most recently I’ve been scum in Townstumps, Situation Room, Owners Market Blitz, Tarot UPick Deviant Moon Edition, and Yggdrasil (though I barely participated in that)

Do you multitable? I do. I play from 4-5 games at a time at different sites and i host multiple games per month too.

Dont ask me if i remember most of them, i dont.

I do too, and I can still remember a lot of them at least! I won’t say my memory is 100% but it’s not that hard to remember at least a handful of scumgames imo.

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum is(gamma, robert, ?????)
And ????? Is mara, dwlee or roden preference to mara, backup roden
Second backup dwlee

You’re really this blind to your own hypocrisy huh?
You’re getting pissed at Luke for using vague meta tells but keep calling me scum over “I never TR town!Gamma”, really?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: robert

Whoops

Also, I'm calling on burden of proficiency on my never touch tier.

If any of

House
Titus
Or guillotina are scum here, all the hats will be eaten

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: rmh
I'll sheep DROOOOOO.

You’re kidding right

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote Count 2.7

Dwlee99

(3)

:

Titus - Marashu - T3

Robert M Hunter

(3)

:

Guillotina - Angel Warriors - DROOOOO

Roden

(1)

:

Roden

Guillotina

(2)

:

Gamma Emerald - Dwlee99 - Robert M Hunter

T3

(2)

:

House - Lukewarm

Not Voting

(1)

:

mastina

With 12 players in the game, 7 are required to Yeet unto the Eternal Void .

Deadline for casting into the Gate is in (expired on 2021-08-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes

Mastina is due to prod tomorrow due to weekend activity rules.
Vote Count number fixed from 2.5 to 2.7

Pronouns

T3- He/Him
Angel Warriors - They/Them
Roden - He/Him
ssbm_Kyouko - She/Her
Marashu - He/Him
Guillotina - He/Him
Lukewarm - He/Him
Robert M Hunter - He/Him
House - He/Him
mastina - She/Her
Titus - She/Her
Gamma Emerald - He/Him
Dwlee99 - They/Them

This clearly shows my vote isn’t stolen
I don’t get why I’m being called vote thief though

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, I'd like you to flavorclaim.

Not unless Guillotina role claims first.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think droo stole gamma's vote and it's a scum night action.

I'm not gonna lie this looks like TMI, this and your entrance. Or you are better at figuring out mechanics than i am.

Your other two options don't make sense. And night action explains why there wasn't a droo vote yesterday.

@Gamma: how does that show your vote isn't stolen? You're on a wagon but only 2 votes are there.

Minor error? I guess we can check

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, T3 should probably die at some point because he’s absolutely openeolfing

[Gamma Emerald]

Well then

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald (2): Guillotina - T3

lmfao

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, T3 should probably die at some point because he’s absolutely openeolfing

LOL how?

Have you not read any of the posts stating the DROO vote is clearly not town? Why are you sheeting something that’s obviously a scum thing?

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a thought but it’s definitely an angleshoot

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, I'd like you to flavorclaim.

Not unless Guillotina role claims first.

Fuck no

Well tbh I don’t expect to have to flavor claim at this point anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

The other option is they are doing it to feed my paranoia of you and Robert, but again, why waste that action to fool just me.

Why does that feel like wasting the action to you? I don’t think it can be called wasted without knowing the limits of the ability.

[Gamma Emerald]

The other option is they are doing it to feed my paranoia of you and Robert, but again, why waste that action to fool just me.

Why does that feel like wasting the action to you? I don’t think it can be called wasted without knowing the limits of the ability.

Ok.. im gonna give you two choices.

Let’s pretend you are scum:

Option 1: You have an extra vote and all you have to do is to wait for a town wagon to be ar L-1 to secure a mischop and leave town confused overnight, having to make decisions on their own to submit night actions.

Option 2: Let’s fool Guillo to make him more paranoid about his scum reads.

I kinda feel like you’re being self-centered
Why do you think scum showing their hand now is a play towards you specifically?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.

-bear nornor

Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.

I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
"I understand where the T3 votes are coming from"
The.... 2 RVS votes?
VOTE: ssbm

If T3 flips scum, I would look bad for this. This looks like when scum attacks my attacker to dirty me up when town do post-flip associations.

Why do people post like this
It just looks self-conscious and scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

If I faked a day cop guilty on Guillotina would people believe it?

Hey Guillotina, why do you act like me and Robert have to have the same alignment because Droo targeted both of us with the vote? How does knowing mine or Robert's alignment inform the other cause of that? Couldn't they have targeted scum with the second vote for WIFOM? This is huge TMI right now.

You just speak BS after BS. My read on both of you formed before the Droo. I tested both of you to see if you’d voted to yeet the other and you avoided it and before that i had scumread both of you individually. It’s all in my ISO, you cant fool anyone. I firmly believe that the Droo vote on you was a gambit to try to make us second guess our read on you, I’ve played this game for several years, ive done and seen those tricks before, although when i do those gambits i actually make town kill each other not make town laugh at me like in this game. I laugh at these wolves, you can’t even Nk a target dude and you trying to WIFOM us?

I’ll coach you guys to become better wolves after game, for free, just so you dont say im arrogant.

Oh wise mafia lord Guillotina, teach me your wisdom.

He wasn’t talking to you

[Gamma Emerald]

Ignore the first quote

[Gamma Emerald]

Imagine me Gouding scum and the one who I actually townread is the one that reacts to my goading.

Yeah I also was immediately like “huh, T3 really just fell for that hook line and sinker huh”
VOTE: T3
This is just for moral support rn
And like, if Guillotina doesn’t gain solid traction at some point today T3 is a perfectly acceptable lim as well IMO. The fact they’ve been a voting bloc practically this entire day phase is such a red flag.

[Gamma Emerald]

The other option is they are doing it to feed my paranoia of you and Robert, but again, why waste that action to fool just me.

Why does that feel like wasting the action to you? I don’t think it can be called wasted without knowing the limits of the ability.

Ok.. im gonna give you two choices.

Let’s pretend you are scum:

Option 1: You have an extra vote and all you have to do is to wait for a town wagon to be ar L-1 to secure a mischop and leave town confused overnight, having to make decisions on their own to submit night actions.

Option 2: Let’s fool Guillo to make him more paranoid about his scum reads.

I kinda feel like you’re being self-centered
Why do you think scum showing their hand now is a play towards you specifically?

I don't, that's the point. I don't think scum would use that vote the way they did to influence me.

That doesn’t necessarily mean the other option you proposed is the truth
I feel like there’s ways that the DROO vote being used now wouldn’t be folding the ability too early.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Robert m hunter
For reasons previously stated yesterday and because the Dwlee wagon is weird.

VOTE: dwlee for now.

T3, what motivated you to vote Dwlee there? What did you mean with "Dwlee wagon is weird"?

I thought I was going to be vla so I parked my vote on the top wagon.

Do you seriously go out of your way to make the scummiest plays you possibly can? Because that’s what it seems like when you do this shit.

[Gamma Emerald]

Imagine me Gouding scum and the one who I actually townread is the one that reacts to my goading.

Yeah I also was immediately like “huh, T3 really just fell for that hook line and sinker huh”
VOTE: T3
This is just for moral support rn
And like, if Guillotina doesn’t gain solid traction at some point today T3 is a perfectly acceptable lim as well IMO. The fact they’ve been a voting bloc practically this entire day phase is such a red flag.

What do you mean solid traction? Why would i get solid traction for?

If House votes you I think that’ll be the point a wagon on you can actually form

The other option is they are doing it to feed my paranoia of you and Robert, but again, why waste that action to fool just me.

Why does that feel like wasting the action to you? I don’t think it can be called wasted without knowing the limits of the ability.

Ok.. im gonna give you two choices.

Let’s pretend you are scum:

Option 1: You have an extra vote and all you have to do is to wait for a town wagon to be ar L-1 to secure a mischop and leave town confused overnight, having to make decisions on their own to submit night actions.

Option 2: Let’s fool Guillo to make him more paranoid about his scum reads.

I kinda feel like you’re being self-centered
Why do you think scum showing their hand now is a play towards you specifically?

I don't, that's the point. I don't think scum would use that vote the way they did to influence me.

That doesn’t necessarily mean the other option you proposed is the truth
I feel like there’s ways that the DROO vote being used now wouldn’t be folding the ability too early.

Explain

Don’t wanna give scum ideas they might not have thought of.

[Gamma Emerald]

House townreads me and i do him, i dont see him leading a wagon on me unless he wants to throw.

It looked like House thought your were scum in some of his catch up

[Gamma Emerald]

Tell me more of this Gamma.

It's just a tonal thing, for me.

I don't give a damn about the DROOO shit. It's just something scum can use to manipulate town, as far as I'm concerned.

do you think me the type to have my own vote stolen as scum using a scum ability? Not saying you're wrong if you do, just curious. Although I do think you're probably not considering how my play today fits within the narrative you have going on for that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I feel like if all you have against me is "tone" you should probably reconsider because when you SRed me for a short time in Townstumps you actually had an articulated reason to it

[Gamma Emerald]

PEdit - Gamma, your first reaction to having it pointed out that your vote was stolen was to deny. Why?

I think mostly because it felt like it was being used against me so I responded with resistance to the idea

[Gamma Emerald]

Tell me more of this Gamma.

It's just a tonal thing, for me.

I don't give a damn about the DROOO shit. It's just something scum can use to manipulate town, as far as I'm concerned.

do you think me the type to have my own vote stolen as scum using a scum ability? Not saying you're wrong if you do, just curious. Although I do think you're probably not considering how my play today fits within the narrative you have going on for that.

Reread the post you quoted.

I meant that question as a "do you think that fits my playstyle/personality specifically?", not as a general question

[Gamma Emerald]

well good fucking luck then

[Gamma Emerald]

Unrelated but I cannot for the life of me figure out why scum hasn't removed the DROO vote yet.q

I can think of a solid reason, but it’s once again an angleshoot

[Gamma Emerald]

Unrelated but I cannot for the life of me figure out why scum hasn't removed the DROO vote yet.q

To go with Occam's Razor, maybe it's just timing, like the scum isn't online to do it?

So scum outed that they have a stolen vote, wasted it on vanity votes, then parked it on a dead wagon as they went AFK?

Just because someone can be competent scum sometimes doesn’t mean they will be all the time

And yeah my angleshoot is just “the scum vote steal happening at xyzzy times can be checked against when people are active to potentially deduce the user”

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh well I'm outed.

I'm an informed neighbor, I know Spekkio is in the game.

This was for the neighbor PT.

Can anyone back this?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm watching you.

was my crumb.
I'd like "Frog" to claim next.

No.

[Gamma Emerald]

T3 or robert today

That's all i ask

100x this.

I think the mispost was a huge scum slip.

Yeah me too
VOTE: RMH
Probably for naught but might as well sign off on this

[Gamma Emerald]

There is no way that a townie actually believes that there is a game that can be solved by having everyone state their flavor.

I don’t think House is saying that per se? Tbh I think T3 said that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah this felt a bit like an open setup run like a closed one
That’s not saying it was bad, just a bit jank

[Gamma Emerald]

I Really think we should be looking closely at Guillotina today. I Believe that Kyouko was onto something when pushing him.

Btw kinda surprised this slipped through the cracks
I R, I B
I RB
I roleblocker?

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyways, GG all
Might write up shout-outs because I don’t feel particularly negative about anyone’s play overall

[Gamma Emerald]

I was hoping you'd see that :p

Pre in noted, definitely going to make room for Fake Claims in the future as well as potential flavour miller's.

Part 2 will be semi open, and is based on the trial section, so I'm modifying The Council setup for my nefarious purposes there

/pre-in

[Gamma Emerald]

I was hoping you'd see that :p

Pre in noted, definitely going to make room for Fake Claims in the future as well as potential flavour miller's.

Part 2 will be semi open, and is based on the trial section, so I'm modifying The Council setup for my nefarious purposes there

In the future, one way to avoid easy breaking strategies is to use the AU (Alternate Universe) method, where you change something about the canon that completely screws with everything everyone thinks they know about the game (if 'y' instead of 'x' at juncture 'k', then 'd' 'e' 'f' instead of 'a' 'b' 'c', for example)

Here's a great example: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59399

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=70078
An example of one I played that was neat

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw another streamer I follow also started a blind Chrono Trigger playthrough during this game

[Gamma Emerald]

1st of off i replaced in. 2nd had i played from the get go gamma would have been n1 kill and then t3. not t3 1st since he always town reads me.

I’m still curious how I softed D1

[Gamma Emerald]

If after you die, ANY player says "I just looked over Roberts iso, and I think [townie] could be his partner" CELEBRATE THAT AS A VICTORY. you met a new goal.

FYI this is what I tend to go for as scum a lot