Micro 1025: Would You Like to be My Hydra?

[Enchant]

Remind me, what preventing us to hydra mafia member on purpose and winning as mafia?

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VOTE: Enchant

Mafia Traitor going.

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Hey that was my idea.

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Who is Elsa Jay

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VOTE: Enchant

Mafia Traitor going.

Do you have a plan of who you're going to target to make sure you hit scum?

Well, nothing preventing me to force elim on my target and then going with them to another. Sooner or later...


Well, if we take serius, i want hear what mod thinks about it, because it really counterreversal, as there's only two persons who can't win that way (everyone else in town can just join mafia).

[Enchant]

Well why would anyone want to elim you? This behavior is pretty towny, and I'm not going to rely on joining a mafia hydra later on to win the game.

Did i mention i am Town Cop Doctor Vigilante? It would be bad to being shot.

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@Mod

Is this allowed to choice to hydra mafia on purpose to change alignments?

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There's issue.

Everyone can't win. Even if we murder mafia to not let them win too fast, in situation 2 towns+1 maf, these two townies can't win, because game will end immediatly after it as parity.
And considering how funny person with 6 hydras will look in this situation...

[Enchant]

Imagine fighting for chance to get elimmed and join mafia.

[Enchant]

Challenge accepted.

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Oh wait you was hammered.

That's cheating.

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[Enchant]

Oh crap. I just realised i lost.

Gg.

[Enchant]

I want to win in the end. I don't care as what faction. It just happens mafia win more often.

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Town require output and teamplay from every townie, which is hard to achieve.

As mafia you can mostly do nothing and still win, because town destroy self.

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What about me, Jessica?

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Who are you and what you done with T3.

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Can i become Hydra for mod and abuse modkills?

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Hey T3, want to quickhammer Thor with me?

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Suffering.

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VOTE: Bug

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WE WIN.

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Imagine if he flips Cop now.

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Btw why infinity protect main "mafia" candidate from murdering.

It's not like she even asked him any questions so why take so long.

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Lmao

Don't Lmao on me.

So why?

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How boring.

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English is not my native language, sorry i am bad with pronouns.

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VOTE: bugspray
VOTE: bugspray
VOTE: bugspray

For good measure.

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Hydras share votes, they are count as one person.

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Why Infinity is town, if she said nothing yet?

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She could be mafia right now.

Idk why T3 called her town instantly.

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Infinity has been nightkilled. She was: Vanilla Town. She may now choose her hydra partner(s).

:<

VOTE: Jessica

[Enchant]

Fairly, Jessica looks almost same as last town game. Hold up.

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Infinity has been nightkilled. She was: Vanilla Town. She may now choose her hydra partner(s).

:<

VOTE: Jessica

Fairly, Jessica looks almost same as last town game. Hold up.

???

So why vote for me then?

Noticed this post and instantly voted, then readed rest and had doubt. But i fear it could end up like last game with you, where i ultimately dislike you despite you being town. I need to think.

UNVOTE:

Now...

About elim, as remember, this is last elim of townie which will lead to possibility of winning with mafia, after only nightkills, unless there's PR interruption. And you considering me?

So anyone, tell me, why i simple shouldn't selfhammer or persuade you from doing so?

I know you probably will say "Oh, it's mafia doing it on purpose, to not get elimmed, otherwise he would already do that", well, too bad it's not a case, i doing it from... Uh. Idk? It's more fun, and i can show it to your noses that it was your choice, not mine.

Either you kill me, and i rejoice with mafia, or not and we trying to carry as town. I already know you chosee first, because i am Enchant after all.


How to win as town is different case, who the fuck are mafia again?
T3 was ready to hammer Thor. So they are not partners and there's no more than 1 maf, because there's nothing scummy in refussing quickhammer and he wouldn't risk his teammate so much.

I give it some thought though, considering how T3 enjoy bussing.

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I didn't had chance to hammer (low battary), but even if had, i don't think i would do that, because i don't think mafia could do that and i don't want to end up losing with town.

So anyone, tell me, why i simple shouldn't selfhammer or persuade you from doing so?

if i'm understanding you correctly, you want to get limmed and join the scum? but how will you know who scum is?

I don't want exactly get limmed, i want end up on winning side. With my elumination, you will be in Elo and mafia win almost certanly. I could even say, in hour or so.

Finding mafia will indeed will hard, but i am lucky. Life finds way.

"How can there be only one scum? There has to be at least two in micro, unless the setup says otherwise?

And why is it a concern for you if you “dislike” me despite my being town? I don’t even understand the thought process behind that."

I meant in T3+Thor, there's not more than 2 mafia. One can be, both never.

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VOTE: No Elim

If we get this wrong, we lose.

Interesting.

Why you want no-elim? What it will give?

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Because i was on 1% of charge on phone and didn't see that.
I quickhammer when it have sense or fun. If i quickhammer town here (and unless you are suicidal mafia, which is unlikely) it's possible lose to me. Unless i get nightkilled, which mafia will avoid most certranly.


No-Elim is mistake. Situation will not change, we just lose 1 member and we STILL end up in bad situation (6 town vs 2 mafia, after elumination 5vs2, + nightkill 4vs2, and welcome to "how the hell we quess mafia with so many members).

It's easier to deduce mafia in 3townvs2maf situation than in 4townvs2maf and stakes are same: Right or get dunked.

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Wait.
3 DAMN HOURS?

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VOTE: Gypix

I have nothing to lose, expect for soul.

It actually looks like randomquessing, but considering suicidal Thor i am not willing to push him.

Ydrasse... Harder choice.

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Infinity, do you want give me win or simple think i am mafia?

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I meant it's randomquessing from me.

VI issues. Gypix looks like person dying as mafia here.

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My scumread of Gypyx here is because he is completely absent right now.

why is being absent worse than being here and not solving? lol

@enchant you're in my poe and you're playing anti town

Imagine eluminating Jester for acting like Jester.

If you are still town, you will be dissapointed.

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You seems too sure they are town.

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Mafia can't join.

When mafia die, they die without joining.

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Did bug just slip about knowing who is town for sure?

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If you join hydraPM with mafia, you BECOME mafia. And lose if you obvscum it.

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... did everyone become insane?

Or is it me?

Why the hell is these teams, what motive dwlee have to bus if there's many more acceptable targets.

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I just blinked and it was hammered.

Why i expect town flip?

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For most smarter persons here.

If this flips town and nightkill happen, you not voting anyone before sure.
Or you can possible kiss town win goodbye after mafia quickgammer.

I warned you all.

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If thor end up mafia in the end, i will be pissed.

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If thor end up mafia in the end, i will be pissed.

Why? Will you miss me?

If so, it means you defeated me with mine tactic.

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I would say my braincells dying, but there's nothing to die already.


T3, what you mean accidentally. How.

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I am Jailkeeper.

Not totally sus claim before night.

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Not really.

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Fuck!

Thor, what the fuck.

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You hammered him after calling T3 mafia for hammering.

Hypocrite.

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Wait, really.

Epic fail from me.

UNVOTE:

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Well.

It's complicated now.

I don't believe in scumreading. Words, and such, i can't comprehend it. I try to use logic.

Given:
Thor tried to bait hammer from me. It's openly suicidal, because even if he is mafia, that's dumb risk being actually hammered. Did he hope i will get exactly this thought? Or did he knew he is not actually in danger?
I remember my first game as scum, where i won simple by acting like myself (being dumbo), here he seems have no idea what's going on, which gives me some de ja vu.

T3+Thor i told before, why he would agree to hammer his teammate? I am actually easy target to counterpush, he would easily save Thor and redirect murder on me instead.
So T3 not mafia with Thor. Period. And Thor seems town.

... Did i made same conclusion twice...

Ok.

Dwlee claimed PR. I don't really believe it, because there's nothing endangered him and it's like asking for bullet.
My claim also fake, obviously.

About Bug/Gypix. Idk, they could knew they are not in danger, but "kill T3 after me" sounded like from town.

Sooo. Well. Uuuh.
Why i am solving it again?

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What "Townpost", go help.

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what's the suicidal gambit?

i don't understand why t3 claimed

He about Thor placing self at E-1 and waiting for hammer.

... Idk. Seems like he think it will help with his accusation

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This game suddenly turned cringe.

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Like, i though Cop claim was joke. Is it real? Damn.

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I don't believe in Vengeful.

Town have killing power here? Aren't it supposed to be low power game? Why you didn't claim it when you was "hammered"?

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Why you claimed Tracker then

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Aren't it better to counterclaim them?
Like yea, maybe they are forced to VT, but it's not like you getting stabbed at night is better?

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... Unexpectable have sense.

Either way, do we try luck with Gypix? If we wrong and he is real Vengeful Cauter (or what is it), then if he choose town for kill, we lost game.

But i feel this claim is too nottruthfull. Idk.

[Enchant]

Do you expect me to hammer?

Well, too bad.

VOTE: Thor

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We fucked.

If Thor flip town, no matter who says what, don't fucking vote.
Unless you want quickhammer from mafia.

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No u.

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We massclaiming?

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Fine then.


I am VT.

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... i wondering, what you need to discuss in PT which you can't here.

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One of the hydras is a baddie for sure now. How scary

I don’t think so?

You want to say, i am mafia with Dwlee99?

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Enchant has to be scum

I'm trying to convince Ydrasse and Infinity

I think Enchant or Dwelee. I still think gypspray is town.

You think it's me and Dwlee because?...

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... i wondering, what you need to discuss in PT which you can't here.

Did you somehow misunderstand T3’s role pm? Apparently I have that role now.

And?

You can use it on next night. Which could not happen, as that's deciding vote right now.

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It can't be Thordrasse because?...

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Yea, i did it after you randomly said i am mafia, after saying i. am Town.

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Serial Killer game.

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Night time for me.

After i will decide what to do. Refrain from voting for a while, because i have idea how to solve this.

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We could no elim and slow the game down if T3 needs results

... Fuck.

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5 hours, and i have feeling i must do it.

VOTE: Infinity

Either you get hammered and we lose, or we go for 1vs1 epic anime fight.
Apologise beforehand if wrong.

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5 hours i meant i wasted 5 hours at quessing and finaly made decision.


Either way, we can now talk from position where's there one scum between me and InfinityHydra, unless i am wrong and we both town, but then mafia will quickly end it so not big loss.

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It's not hammer test. Sadly i can't be active for whole game, so if mafia want, they can hammer without real danger.

But if not, then i voted mafia. And you should help me.

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Jessica, if you are town, unvote and think again. If mafia, ok go ahead.

I going sleep, i don't want wake up and realise we lost. Even one townie on me allow scum to hammer.

Didn't you say "Don't rush"?

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Good morning.

First: InfinityHydra is mafia confirmed. Otherwise mafia could already hammer her 1000 times.

Now why you should vote her not me... Umm.

Idk honestly how to prove. Do you think scum!me choose fight with Infinity on purpose? Well, think again.

You think i am mafmaf, and believe InfinityAndOthers Town, but there's issue in great experience difference, so it's easier for them appear townie, and it's harder to me provide arguments. Also, my gaming style somewhat, well, you saw.

Why hammered Thor: I felt extremely strange vibes, when Thor said i am town AND town almost without reasonable time and reasons to change my mind. He was town on this one, but i still wish to ask.
Why you didn't fucking care when we hammered Bug without "Announce" and other? It becomed issue only after you jumped in Ydrsee and turned mafia. Hypocrite much?


Jessica, i don't know why you doesn't believe, but my actions in our last game not different i think.

T3, why you suddenly changed my mind? Aren't i was "locktown" before? Hm. Honestly, seems like you didn't believe me from start, otherwise jumped in my hydra, but still.



My suggestion: Look Ydrsee play on 1 day, where she was alone, and then after where she left game for her hydra. I don't think Ydrseee so silentive in other games, you should see difference.

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Or Jessica was maf.

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haN.

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naH oloS

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Well, seems like we need to wait for Gypix/Bug. Either they hammer and end game (If we both are town somehow, but i don't think it case), or refuse and this will point this was right choose, Dwlee99, otherwise why my partner not hammer and end game in win instantly?

Btw, unless Dwlee99 is bussing (which is UNLIKELY AS HELL AND DUMB HERE), he is conftown. So T3/Jessica or Bug/Gypix are mafia with Infinity.

I honestly have no clue who exactly, as there's reason to think on both you. Just make right choose. P.S. Right choose is voting Infinity of course.

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Right about what?

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Town!You would already realise i am scum voting you, because if i was town, you would end up hammered by mafia already. "Hope" is joke.

Another reason to vote her, btw.

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VOTE: enchant

i'm not actually that confident that gypspray is town, but i feel as confident as i'll ever be given the activity level of the game. i liked gypyx coming out of the gate being solvy, even if he hasn't really kept it up (i have pretty low expectations for his scumgame). i also don't see a reason for scum!bugspray to fake paranoia on t3/Jessica being scum when that has been a pretty widely TRed slot all game

pretty sure scum could've quickhammered enchant at this point if he was town

And it's after i voted you.


... Honestly idk why i still argue with you, seems like from boredom.

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It's kinda sad ironic honestly.

I tried to join mafia but unable too.
You tried to make town win, but joined mafia.

We could make film and win Oscar easily.

[Enchant]

What if it’s actually Enchant/Thorfinidrasse?

Explain.

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Of course she promise to solve game if you hammer me.

Because there will be no game.

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No, really, she was surely wanted to carry town to win, died and then suddenly lost courage? Because of what? She joined in hydra with person she likes AND LOST INTEREST?

Bullshit.

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Aren't you died 1n?

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@enchant you're right, though i feel like if you were actually looking at my iso the transition is a lot more gradual than "i die and then i lose motivation"

pretty opportunistic reason to call me scum

Of course it's opprtonistic.

You tried explain your lack of spirit after suddenly dying (and turning mafia), i countered it. Now you call it opportunistic.

Aren't that's how you make arguments? You make, i counter. And vice versa.

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It was hammered?

Well. Half of work done.

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I wanted to claim Mafia Goon, but Jessica will eat my guts if she town.

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Or what if i am mafia but just playing with you?

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Aren't it's 4 day?
3 night just happened.

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When you got result?

After joining hydra or before?

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Not hammering yet, but honestly decision is clear.

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I am simple minded person, i believe anyone could made same decision so.

PUNCH.
VOTE: Gypix
VOTE: Bug

Do we lose?

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We are Scum or Town

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Ok then.

Press F for Thor, Infinity and Bug, Town Traitors.