Micro 1025: Would You Like to be My Hydra?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Remind me, what preventing us to hydra mafia member on purpose and winning as mafia?

please no

Thankfully Elsa Jay isn’t in this game.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Who is Elsa Jay

A player who is overwhelming known to prefer playing mafia to town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

@Mod

Is this allowed to choice to hydra mafia on purpose to change alignments?

Town may target however they decide they want to target on the hydra-zation shots. The game will end as soon as a win condition is achieved. I cannot weigh in on whether any particular plan is a good one.

So there’s no limit on how many dead town can join the same hydra?

[Jessica Rabbit]

If you vote me out I'll just come back from the dead to join your scum hydra and obvscum it

Weigh your options

I think Thor is town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

let's try this again

VOTE: thor

i felt like his joking scumclaim and desire to have the town all join the mafia was a bit too genuine

why is bugspray scum

mostly the switch spary does between "shitpost mode" and "serious mode"

VOTE: Thor
Guess I might as well play to my wincon if it means I can policy yeet an alt

like, it's not saying they'll "play to wincon" that really makes me raise eyebrows, more the fact that they bother stating it out loud (or anything of the sort really)

and just as i'm stating that i'm realising it's more common than i originally thought, but idk

I think Infinity, Gypyx and Thor are all town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Elaborate?

58 reads like a warning for scum to back off. Basically if Thor is scum, he’s pretty much threatening to gamethrow.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I don't see why he can't just be lying? He's almost telling people to not vote him

To me it read, that he will hydra with the scum he thinks is voting him and obvscum as revenge, which isn’t the same.

I think that scum probably would play differently in this setup? Don’t you?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I'm assuming it's cause they weren't gonna play to wincon before cause they wanted to try to hydra with scum?

it's more of a "actively aiming to appear as a certain thingy (in our case a sorta detached townie"m)"
got no problem with players shitposting that they wanna play with scum


And yeah sure go ahead Rhor Tagnarok

self meta is trash, meta is trash

but regardless when I do optics as scum it's more subtle

No, this is not accurate especially if it’s recent. Meta is often a pretty reliable scumhunting tool.

[Jessica Rabbit]

58
because 106 is borked

Why are so so quick to invalidate my read?

[Jessica Rabbit]

is the solve just gypyx thor?

And why Gypx?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Oh I see, your interpretation is a bit more creative than mine but still something that scum could just make up imo

Infinity tr increasing.

The difference between bugspray’s response to my read and Infinity’s is very clear.

[Jessica Rabbit]

What about me, Jessica?

I’m not sure on you yet. But I’m suspicious of the Thor wagon.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I'm already gut sring Jessica lol

I'm assuming it's cause they weren't gonna play to wincon before cause they wanted to try to hydra with scum?

it's more of a "actively aiming to appear as a certain thingy (in our case a sorta detached townie"m)"
got no problem with players shitposting that they wanna play with scum


And yeah sure go ahead Rhor Tagnarok

self meta is trash, meta is trash

but regardless when I do optics as scum it's more subtle

what does that even mean bug murderer person

Metagood.

lol
thorpookyalt town.
Infinity town.

Explain to me how, you agree with me on all of this and still scumread me.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Well I would say Thor but I don't really want anyone at e-1 atm. I don't have other scumreads

I think Thor is town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Is bugspray hammered? They’re currently my strongest sr, so hope that’s right.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity has been nightkilled. She was: Vanilla Town. She may now choose her hydra partner(s).

[Jessica Rabbit]

How do you know you were killed by scum and not vigged?

A vig never even occurred to me but why would you even think that?

[Jessica Rabbit]

You were kinda scummy yesterday

She was super obvtown. I is confused.

[Jessica Rabbit]

She could be mafia right now.

Idk why T3 called her town instantly.

I feel better about bugs/gypyx than Infinty/Ydrasse only because Ydrasse was and still is a complete null for me. Infinity, why did you hydra with Ydrasse?

[Jessica Rabbit]

i like ydrasse

The obvious problem is that she has yet to do anything ai, so it kinda sucks that you were initially a locktown for me and now you’re a dead null. :/

Hopefully, one or both of you can make that slot more readable?

[Jessica Rabbit]

is the solve just gypyx thor?

spicyyyyyy

why tho

Very much looking forward to seeing one of them post.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Why do you need new reads?

well if jessica wants to read me she'll probably need new reads

i buy that townslip from t3 a lot more lol

I really don’t understand the vig thing because you’re the only nk, so most people don’t generally think of vig when only one player is nk’d but then I don’t understand the scum motivation for Thor asking you that either.

It really serves no purpose.

[Jessica Rabbit]

What you said sounded like you were going to give us new reads but what happened to the old ones?

i don't have many of them

i think gypyx is town

i think thor is scum

@jessica i think Thor did that to fake a townslip

I still think you’re town. I really hope you’re wrong about Thor but if Thor is who I think he is, that just seems like such a silly thing for him to do. It only served to make me doubt him if anything, so idk?

I don’t understand how T3 isn’t tr me yet. I’m playing pretty much the same here as in Deco and Silence. So that’s weirding me out a bit.

What does Ydrasse think about Thor?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I'd probably join Ydrasse/Infinity so I can prove them wrong

You join ANYONE, you will prove them wrong.

Help us find scum. With most of the playerlist practically phoning it in, I have no clue who to vote for. I think Infinity probably saved Ydrasse slot however.

We definitely shouldn’t rush this vote, we already had one miselim.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I am completely and utterly town, I promise. Join my hydra and I can have a heart to heart with you, and it'll be very obvious then that I'm town.

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

We’re supposed to be voting out scum, why would we vote out Infinity, who’s play has not changed since she hydra’d with Ydrasse?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity has been nightkilled. She was: Vanilla Town. She may now choose her hydra partner(s).

:<

VOTE: Jessica

Fairly, Jessica looks almost same as last town game. Hold up.

???

So why vote for me then?

[Jessica Rabbit]

VOTE: infinidrasse

I am completely and utterly town, I promise. Join my hydra and I can have a heart to heart with you, and it'll be very obvious then that I'm town.

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

We’re supposed to be voting out scum, why would we vote out Infinity, who’s play has not changed since she hydra’d with Ydrasse?

Are you scum again T3?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

Should we do this? Or would you rather I join your hydra?

Either way I want to talk to you in a PT so you can see my shining towny vibes and change your mind

You understand that we’re not supposed to vote out slots we tr, right?

I would prefer neither of you be the elim today.

[Jessica Rabbit]

@mod, gypyx is in dire need of a prod.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

Should we do this? Or would you rather I join your hydra?

Either way I want to talk to you in a PT so you can see my shining towny vibes and change your mind

you realize you get the players role pm and become their alignment when you hydra with them?

t3 feels pretty towny to me, like he just doesn't care. he said once that he explains himself more when scum. and i buy his townslip

Who do you dislike other than Thor? I don’t really think he’s scum.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

Should we do this? Or would you rather I join your hydra?

Either way I want to talk to you in a PT so you can see my shining towny vibes and change your mind

You understand that we’re not supposed to vote out slots we tr, right?

I would prefer neither of you be the elim today.

Hmm, who do I vote then? Infinity could've been scum who was vigged, but she might be town now that she's joined Ydrasse

Dude, she literally flipped vt.

I think this is actually Hectic trolling, amirite?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Maybe Enchant?

T3, how confident are you on your Enchant locktown read? What has he done here that’s super townie?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity has been nightkilled. She was: Vanilla Town. She may now choose her hydra partner(s).

:<

VOTE: Jessica

Fairly, Jessica looks almost same as last town game. Hold up.

???

So why vote for me then?

Noticed this post and instantly voted, then readed rest and had doubt. But i fear it could end up like last game with you, where i ultimately dislike you despite you being town. I need to think.

UNVOTE:

Now...

About elim, as remember, this is last elim of townie which will lead to possibility of winning with mafia, after only nightkills, unless there's PR interruption. And you considering me?

So anyone, tell me, why i simple shouldn't selfhammer or persuade you from doing so?

I know you probably will say "Oh, it's mafia doing it on purpose, to not get elimmed, otherwise he would already do that", well, too bad it's not a case, i doing it from... Uh. Idk? It's more fun, and i can show it to your noses that it was your choice, not mine.

Either you kill me, and i rejoice with mafia, or not and we trying to carry as town. I already know you chosee first, because i am Enchant after all.


How to win as town is different case, who the fuck are mafia again?
T3 was ready to hammer Thor. So they are not partners and there's no more than 1 maf, because there's nothing scummy in refussing quickhammer and he wouldn't risk his teammate so much.

I give it some thought though, considering how T3 enjoy bussing.

How can there be only one scum? There has to be at least two in micro, unless the setup says otherwise?

And why is it a concern for you if you “dislike” me despite my being town? I don’t even understand the thought process behind that.

[Jessica Rabbit]

We could do a no elim if it’s melo?

[Jessica Rabbit]

@mod, gypyx is in dire need of a prod.

@mod, can we get an extension since gypyx needs to be prodded?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Setup Specific Information

The Rules: This Game

1. Deadlines are seven days for Dayphases and 48 hours for Nightphases. Extensions will be granted at mod discretion, particularly in cases of slow replacements or site downtime. Deadlines will not be granted on the grounds that people have not been active enough.

2. Each player slot must post at least every 48 hours. I do not requite that these posts contain content. If you will be unable to post for longer than 48 hours, you may declare V/LA. Please be mindful of how long you declare V/LA.

3. An individual replacing out of a hydra slot will not be replaced unless they are the last person in that slot. If a player replaces out of a hydra slot, all players remaining in that slot will be prodded to ensure the slot is not empty

[Jessica Rabbit]

VOTE: No Elim

If we get this wrong, we lose.

[Jessica Rabbit]

VOTE: No Elim

If we get this wrong, we lose.

Interesting.

Why you want no-elim? What it will give?

Because we lose if we miselim.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Because i was on 1% of charge on phone and didn't see that.
I quickhammer when it have sense or fun. If i quickhammer town here (and unless you are suicidal mafia, which is unlikely) it's possible lose to me. Unless i get nightkilled, which mafia will avoid most certranly.


No-Elim is mistake. Situation will not change, we just lose 1 member and we STILL end up in bad situation (6 town vs 2 mafia, after elumination 5vs2, + nightkill 4vs2, and welcome to "how the hell we quess mafia with so many members).

It's easier to deduce mafia in 3townvs2maf situation than in 4townvs2maf and stakes are same: Right or get dunked.

Right but I have no idea who is scum.

[Jessica Rabbit]

We have one mislim left that you throw away by no limming here.

Oh I thought scum would autowin if we guessed wrong.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Can we just throw enchant or gypyx off the castle please?

One of T3/Infinity is wrong here then because T3 trs Enchant and Infinity trs gypyx.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Can we just throw enchant or gypyx off the castle please?

One of T3/Infinity is wrong here then because T3 trs Enchant and Infinity trs gypyx.

There are 7 slots. If you're scum they could be correct

I’m not scum, so this isn’t helping.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Dwelee why should I tr you?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Well you're assuming I'm town then

Which like true but why do you assume I'm town?

I think Infinity, Thor and T3 are town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Well you're assuming I'm town then

Which like true but why do you assume I'm town?

Where did you get that from? All I said was I’m not scum so I’m still back to square one thinking Infinity or T3 would have to be wrong unless it’s you?

[Jessica Rabbit]

We have one mislim left that you throw away by no limming here.

Oh I thought scum would autowin if we guessed wrong.

Why?

We only get one more mislim

Oh nm, misread this.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Scum enchant is very agreeable and consensusy.

Idk about the original thought part but he seems more agreeable here than in Silence? Bugspray hasn’t done any solving today but that could be nia.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Can we just throw enchant or gypyx off the castle please?

One of T3/Infinity is wrong here then because T3 trs Enchant and Infinity trs gypyx.

i want to yeet infinity/ydrasse between these two solely because they can then join my hydra and get borged

That slot is my strongest tr.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Why do we townread ydrasse slot?

I am completely and utterly town, I promise. Join my hydra and I can have a heart to heart with you, and it'll be very obvious then that I'm town.

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

We’re supposed to be voting out scum,

why would we vote out Infinity, who’s play has not changed since she hydra’d with Ydrasse?

I would totally be onboard for that otherwise but Infinity is super obvtown here.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I don't think infinity is obvtown this day phase. Like she just said her earlier reads

Ydrasse and gypyx not posting today is extremely frustrating.

But she sounds exactly the same before she got nk’d. Wouldn’t she be sounding different if Ydrasse was mafia?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Why do we townread ydrasse slot?

I am completely and utterly town, I promise. Join my hydra and I can have a heart to heart with you, and it'll be very obvious then that I'm town.

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

We’re supposed to be voting out scum,

why would we vote out Infinity, who’s play has not changed since she hydra’d with Ydrasse?

I would totally be onboard for that otherwise but Infinity is super obvtown here.

Lcoktown: ydra Jess
Dwlee/bug scumteam?

I think you may be right.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I claim PR don't kill me

kk dwlee is town

Oh nm then.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Can we just throw enchant or gypyx off the castle please?

One of T3/Infinity is wrong here then because T3 trs Enchant and Infinity trs gypyx.

i want to yeet infinity/ydrasse between these two solely because they can then join my hydra and get borged

Did bug just slip about knowing who is town for sure?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I claim PR don't kill me

kk dwlee is town

Oh nm then.

NM is in the game????

No, nevermind not NM.

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 is definitely scum

He's getting cheap hammers quicker than a construction worker does at a bargain sale

Maybe? I stiil feel good about Infinity/you.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Silence was actually easier. Shelby and Luke were obviously scummy. :/

[Jessica Rabbit]

wait wtf

yeah sorry y'all i kinda forgot about MS

just exe T3 after i'm gone

If you’re town, you and bugs will just do another hydra.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infindrasse - town

bugpyx - probably town

Enchant - maybe town

[Jessica Rabbit]

I'm a cauterizer vengeful

if the person i vengekill is town they don't get to hydra someone else

who wants to be freed?

This claim is almost certainly from town and the only one we can be really confident on because gypyx thought he was hammered.

This vengekill makes zero sense if scum because the venge is protown. gypyx either rids of us of scum when hammered or they permanently IC a slot.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I don't think "doesn't get to hydra" means they don't get to die.

I also think that could very well be a scum role.

Only mafia can die in this game.

gypyx, if you venge town, they continue to live but not hydra, correct?

Why would gypyx say, don’t get to hydra if they just die?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Like that specifically fills scum utility by removing a town player from the game.

So you’re saying he’s lying about the not getting to hydra part? Why?

He said it when he thought he was already hammered. If he’s mafia why does he ask “who wants to be freed”?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I'm a cauterizer vengeful

if the person i vengekill is town they don't get to hydra someone else

who wants to be freed?

I just don’t understand why scum who believed they were hammered makes this post?

Jnless you’re also going to say he didn’t believe that either?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I don’t believe we have both a town tracker + a town cop.

Thor, I’m assuming AC, correct?

I think probably one scum between T3 and Thor.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I'm a Night 2 Cop

I didn't want to say but if we're all claiming, it might help

I'm checking T3 if he doesn't kill me

VOTE: thor
Scum doing a suicidal gambit.

Proof is all in the words

I think I believe Thor over T3.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Can we just throw enchant or gypyx off the castle please?

gyxspray is clearly unaligned with anyone if Enchant is town.

Dwelee, why are you town?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Okay, T3 is obviously town and so is Infinidrasse.

The hydra obsession of Thor is really starting to worry me. He hasn’t given a single read on anyone yet, other than the weird vig claim comment to Infinity. Agree with T3 on Gypspray and Enchant.

Still no clue on Dweele but town should not be so willing to gamethrow just to be able to hydra. It reads more like Thor wants town to hydra with him, which would obviously hurt town if he is actually mafia.

Thor claims he was trying to get killed but it looked more like he was trying to get our tracker killed since he’s admitted his claim is fake.

VOTE: Thor

[Jessica Rabbit]

E - 1

[Jessica Rabbit]

i think the n2 cop claim is pretty believiable especially in the context of a low power game

I'm 21-shot tracker so there probably isn't another investigative.

I'm not a cop

wqaht

If Thor flips scum, gypspray is spewed town from all of this.

I think that slot is probably town regardless.

[Jessica Rabbit]

UNVOTE:

Give us reads Thor.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Vote Count 2.03

Thor Ragnarok (2):

T3, Jessica Rabbit,

Gypyx/bugspray (1):

Dwlee99,

T3 (1):

Gypyx/bugspray,

Enchant (0):

Ydrasse/Infinity (0):

Dwlee99 (0):

Jessica Rabbit (0):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (3):

Enchant, Ydrasse/Infinity, Thor Ragnarok,

With 7 alive, it takes

4

to cut off one head or

4

to cower in fear of the mighty hydra.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2021-08-20 22:00:00).

I unvoted to both wait for Infinity to weigh in and not to rush this day.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Scum is probably Enchant but I'm with dying and joining one of the hydras to talk it out first

If you’re town, hydra with me then?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Thor Ragnarok has joined with Ydrasse and Infinity. Truly this is a legendary monster!

The deadline for N2 is in (expired on 2021-08-20 15:30:00).

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 has been murder death killed.

He was:

Town Post-Mortem Tracker

.

Welcome to Would You Like to Be My Hydra? Mafia

You are a Town Post-Mortem Tracker. When you die, you may choose a player. Your role will become that player's role and you will occupy the same player slot as that player for the rest of the game. If you target a Vanilla Townie with this ability, they will instead inherit your role.

Additionally, when you die you may choose a player to track. You will be told who, if anyone, that player targeted during the next night phase. If you were to die on D1, for example, you would receive results for N1. If you were to die on N1, you would receive results for N2.

T3 joins Jessica Rabbit!

I joined obvtown thank me later.

Please talk to me in our PR thanks.

[Jessica Rabbit]

One of the hydras is a baddie for sure now. How scary

I don’t think so?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Enchant has to be scum

I'm trying to convince Ydrasse and Infinity

I think Enchant or Dwelee. I still think gypspray is town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

... i wondering, what you need to discuss in PT which you can't here.

Did you somehow misunderstand T3’s role pm? Apparently I have that role now.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Enchant has to be scum

I'm trying to convince Ydrasse and Infinity

I think Enchant or Dwelee. I still think gypspray is town.

You think it's me and Dwlee because?...

It obviously can’t be Thorfinidrasse. I know it’s obviously not us and out of you, Enchant, gypspray, I like them the best.

[Jessica Rabbit]

... i wondering, what you need to discuss in PT which you can't here.

Did you somehow misunderstand T3’s role pm? Apparently I have that role now.

I thought he had your role now

No because I’m vt, so apparently I now have his. If I read his role pm accurately?

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 has been murder death killed.

He was:

Town Post-Mortem Tracker

.

Welcome to Would You Like to Be My Hydra? Mafia

You are a Town Post-Mortem Tracker. When you die, you may choose a player. Your role will become that player's role and you will occupy the same player slot as that player for the rest of the game.

If you target a Vanilla Townie with this ability, they will instead inherit your role.

Additionally, when you die you may choose a player to track. You will be told who, if anyone, that player targeted during the next night phase. If you were to die on D1, for example, you would receive results for N1. If you were to die on N1, you would receive results for N2.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Stop ninjaing me.

??? Wut

[Jessica Rabbit]

Why can it obviously not be the three headed monster?

Why can it be?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Stop ninjaing me.

??? Wut

Was talking to enchant. Dude keeps posting what I was posting as I'm posting it

Oh sorry then.

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 has been murder death killed.

He was:

Town Post-Mortem Tracker

.

Welcome to Would You Like to Be My Hydra? Mafia

You are a Town Post-Mortem Tracker. When you die, you may choose a player. Your role will become that player's role and you will occupy the same player slot as that player for the rest of the game. If you target a Vanilla Townie with this ability, they will instead inherit your role.

Additionally, when you die you may choose a player to track.

You will be told who, if anyone, that player targeted during the next night phase.

If you were to die on D1, for example, you would receive results for N1. If you were to die on N1, you would receive results for N2.

So, this doesn’t help us at all then. :/. We essentially won’t get to find out until tomorrow night whether or night T3 got a guilty or an inno - assuming the game doesn’t end. Lovely. :/

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 has been murder death killed.

He was:

Town Post-Mortem Tracker

.

Welcome to Would You Like to Be My Hydra? Mafia

You are a Town Post-Mortem Tracker. When you die, you may choose a player. Your role will become that player's role and you will occupy the same player slot as that player for the rest of the game. If you target a Vanilla Townie with this ability, they will instead inherit your role.

Additionally, when you die you may choose a player to track.

You will be told who, if anyone, that player targeted during the next night phase.

If you were to die on D1, for example, you would receive results for N1. If you were to die on N1, you would receive results for N2.

So, this doesn’t help us at all then. :/. We essentially won’t get to find out until tomorrow night whether or night T3 got a guilty or an inno - assuming the game doesn’t end. Lovely. :/

Did people bother reading this or no? There is no info because he doesn’t get to find out his results until tonight.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Dwelee might be town? I have never before been this lost in a game before wrt to reads. :/

[Jessica Rabbit]

If the Jessica slot is town we don't instantly lose from this which is epic.

Didn’t you say before we miselimed Thor, we only had one more miselim? Well wasn’t Thor it?

[Jessica Rabbit]

We could no elim and slow the game down if T3 needs results

I still feel the best about Thorfinidrasse. Could it be gypspray/Enchant?

Infinity, why are you so confident on gypspray?

[Jessica Rabbit]

It's not hammer test. Sadly i can't be active for whole game, so if mafia want, they can hammer without real danger.

But if not, then i voted mafia. And you should help me.

This sounds townie. Ahhhhhhhhh

[Jessica Rabbit]

Let's just get the easy scum in Enchant out and then we can worry about if there's a partner tomorrow

Also we'll get that back from the dead track from T3

I actually feel the worst about Enchant.

T3, what do you think?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Vote Count 3.00

Gypyx/bugspray (0):

Enchant (0):

Ydrasse/Infinity/Thor Ragnarok (0):

Dwlee99 (0):

Jessica Rabbit/T3 (0):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (5):

With 5 alive, it takes

3

to cut off one head or

3

to cower in fear of the mighty hydra.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2021-08-27 17:00:00).

There’s no need to rush this guys.

[Jessica Rabbit]

It would really help if Ydrasse and gypyx would post.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I mean like eventually sure but are you saying that to hammer test or what? Cause I don't know who is worse. My logic before says it's enchant/thorfinidrasse or Bugspray/thorfinidrasse so I'll probably vote for thorfinidrasse if it comes down to it.

How did you get Enchant/Thorfinidrasse?

[Jessica Rabbit]

VOTE: Enchant

[Jessica Rabbit]

Jessica, if you are town, unvote and think again. If mafia, ok go ahead.

I going sleep, i don't want wake up and realise we lost. Even one townie on me allow scum to hammer.

Didn't you say "Don't rush"?

UNVOTE:

No obviously we’re town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Jessica, if you are town, unvote and think again. If mafia, ok go ahead.

I going sleep, i don't want wake up and realise we lost. Even one townie on me allow scum to hammer.

Didn't you say "Don't rush"?

I think Thorfinidrasse is town and I was afraid they’d get hammered and we’d lose.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I mean like eventually sure but are you saying that to hammer test or what? Cause I don't know who is worse. My logic before says it's enchant/thorfinidrasse or Bugspray/thorfinidrasse so I'll probably vote for thorfinidrasse if it comes down to it.

This worries me. If Dwelee and gypspray both vote Thorfinidrasse we could lose.

[Jessica Rabbit]

5 hours, and i have feeling i must do it.

VOTE: Infinity

Either you get hammered and we lose, or we go for 1vs1 epic anime fight.
Apologise beforehand if wrong.

Jessica, if you are town, unvote and think again. If mafia, ok go ahead.

I going sleep, i don't want wake up and realise we lost. Even one townie on me allow scum to hammer.

Didn't you say "Don't rush"?

So why are you voting then?

[Jessica Rabbit]

If the Jessica slot is town we don't instantly lose from this which is epic.

Didn’t you say before we miselimed Thor, we only had one more miselim? Well wasn’t Thor it?

If you're town then one of enchant and thorfinidrasse has to be evil so we won't get a scum quickhammer. We still lose if we mislim this time.

Well, I don’t think it’s Thorfinidrasse.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Infinity’s reads have been consistent. I don’t want to rush this vote but I will if I think Thorfinidrasse is going to get run up before then.

[Jessica Rabbit]

^so don't use that to Auto town read. There's some lack of WIM I think cause of the setup but imo infinity's play post-hydra isn't townie.

Why not?

Also Thor doesn’t sound any different.


It does concern me that Ydrasse and gypyx aren’t posting more but other than that . . .

[Jessica Rabbit]

^so don't use that to Auto town read. There's some lack of WIM I think cause of the setup but imo infinity's play post-hydra isn't townie.

i'm not actually that confident that gypspray is town, but i feel as confident as i'll ever be given the activity level of the game. i liked gypyx coming out of the gate being solvy, even if he hasn't really kept it up (i have pretty low expectations for his scumgame). i also don't see a reason for scum!bugspray to fake paranoia on t3/Jessica being scum when that has been a pretty widely TRed slot all game

pretty sure scum could've quickhammered enchant at this point if he was town

I think post #626 sounds pretty townie. I don’t want to rush this but if Thorfinidrasse gets another vote, I will probably revote Enchant.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Thorfinidrasse getting a vote does not mean you should vote Enchant. It means you should weigh if those two people voting thorfinidrasse are scum or if thorfinidrasse is for not getting quickhammered. Don't rush stuff please

I don’t want to rush. I think you and Thorfinidrasse are town or I’m very wrong somewhere.

[Jessica Rabbit]

^so don't use that to Auto town read. There's some lack of WIM I think cause of the setup but imo infinity's play post-hydra isn't townie.

Why not?

Also Thor doesn’t sound any different.


It does concern me that Ydrasse and gypyx aren’t posting more but other than that . . .

Cause if town!infinity's reads were wrong and she hydras scum she can just keep them for consistency. Thor you have more of a case for with that he doesn't sound different but he isn exactly doing anything townie still. I mean, we limmed him for a reason lol

Same with bugs but both flipped town, so what’s your point?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I really really think Thorfinidrasse is town here.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i'm not actually that confident that gypspray is town, but i feel as confident as i'll ever be given the activity level of the game. i liked gypyx coming out of the gate being solvy, even if he hasn't really kept it up (i have pretty low expectations for his scumgame). i also don't see a reason for scum!bugspray to fake paranoia on t3/Jessica being scum when that has been a pretty widely TRed slot all game

pretty sure scum could've quickhammered enchant at this point if he was town

I like Infinity’s point. It’s hard not to agree with this.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i'm not actually that confident that gypspray is town, but i feel as confident as i'll ever be given the activity level of the game. i liked gypyx coming out of the gate being solvy, even if he hasn't really kept it up (i have pretty low expectations for his scumgame). i also don't see a reason for scum!bugspray to fake paranoia on t3/Jessica being scum when that has been a pretty widely TRed slot all game

pretty sure scum could've quickhammered enchant at this point if he was town

Pick two of yourself/Jess/gyspray cause not all three of you can be town.

According to you?

And we should trust you on this because?

[Jessica Rabbit]

i'm not actually that confident that gypspray is town, but i feel as confident as i'll ever be given the activity level of the game. i liked gypyx coming out of the gate being solvy, even if he hasn't really kept it up (i have pretty low expectations for his scumgame). i also don't see a reason for scum!bugspray to fake paranoia on t3/Jessica being scum when that has been a pretty widely TRed slot all game

pretty sure scum could've quickhammered enchant at this point if he was town

Pick two of yourself/Jess/gyspray cause not all three of you can be town.

According to you?

And we should trust you on this because?

Well you think I'm town no?

Idk but I don’t see how Thorfinidrasse is scum.

I just feel the worst about Enchant.

Would scum bugspray or town!bugspray be more likely to to wrongly sr me here? Bugs also misread me in Silence.

[Jessica Rabbit]

But what if I vote wrong and it's my fault >:(

I will blame Jingle for making us wait an extra night for results.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Please no one hammer anything yet. I really want to see Ydrasse and gypyx post.

[Jessica Rabbit]

What if it’s actually Enchant/Thorfinidrasse?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Well, seems like we need to wait for Gypix/Bug. Either they hammer and end game (If we both are town somehow, but i don't think it case), or refuse and this will point this was right choose, Dwlee99, otherwise why my partner not hammer and end game in win instantly?

Btw, unless Dwlee99 is bussing (which is UNLIKELY AS HELL AND DUMB HERE), he is conftown. So T3/Jessica or Bug/Gypix are mafia with Infinity.

I honestly have no clue who exactly, as there's reason to think on both you. Just make right choose. P.S. Right choose is voting Infinity of course.

Is it possible that I’m wrong on both hydras? But yeah, I want to see what gypspray does.

[Jessica Rabbit]

What if it’s actually Enchant/Thorfinidrasse?

Explain.

Idk, I’m having doubts on everything but currently feeling the best about Dwelee and Infinty didn’t give any reasons why he’s scum, so she doesn’t seem particularly worried about being at E - 1, which is strange since if they’re town, we lose, so not sure what to make of it.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Can be thorfinidrasse/gyspray :shrug:

Yeah, possibly leaning to that. I didn’t love Infinity’s recent posts. Her energy seems different than on D1 and why didn’t she hydra with me, who was her strongest tr?

Neither Ydrasse/gypyx posting is not town indicative.

I want to wait to talk to T3 but if Thorfinidrasse is scum, then it looks like they’ve set their partner up well but I disliked her unwillingness to try to genuinely parse Dwelee. She really doesn’t look like she’s struggling to make reads like we are.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i am worried, but i figured dwlee was scum anyway by PoE, and there's not too much i can do about it?

Why tho?

Why is he scum?

[Jessica Rabbit]

i am worried, but i figured dwlee was scum anyway by PoE, and there's not too much i can do about it?

Sure you can. Convince us that our initial tr on you was correct and I will plead with Dwelee to unvote you. You don’t sound worried and you not being concerned is seriously pinging me because we lose if you’re town, so you shouldn’t be this nonchalant about it.

[Jessica Rabbit]

you're pretty obviously town, and i feel pretty good about my read on gypspray.

dwlee really just hasn't posted much ai so i feel like poe is a fine way to sort them.

also i wanted to hydra with ydrasse because i like her, i didn't really think about it further than that. though i wish she was here

I think he sounds pretty townie, so I don’t understand why you’re not struggling with that more? I understand that you like her, the problem I obviously had with it is that she hadn’t done anything town indicative and really still hasn’t.

I’m not a huge fan of PoE reads and I would just expect town!you to be a lot more upset about being at E-1 here. I would be freaking out because the game would be over but you’re not acting like the game will end with your elim. Why not?

Gypyx hasn’t posted at all and yet you tr him over Dwelee who’s actually doing things?

Someone said your WIM has changed and I really see that now.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i sort of stopped caring too much about this game sometime d2, although i'd like to win of course

You’re not upset about being at E-1 and you’re not struggling to make reads. You don’t look like you’re really trying and considering we autolose if you’re town, why aren’t you?

[Jessica Rabbit]

Why aren’t you acting like you’re the game-losing miselim? Why aren’t you more upset?

[Jessica Rabbit]

But that's how I figured out it was you infinity, poe

I think Thorfinidrasse is scum and as long as I’m right about you, we’re probably winning this.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i sort of stopped caring too much about this game sometime d2, although i'd like to win of course

You’re not upset about being at E-1 and you’re not struggling to make reads. You don’t look like you’re really trying and considering we autolose if you’re town, why aren’t you?

i feel like you're trying to interpret my motivations in terms of what you would do in my spot, but i'm not you!

for a while i felt like i was the only one who cared about winning the game as town, and i didn't really want to feel that way, and would rather just put my energy into other things

it's a bit late to try to sort now, but i can try to put a bit more into the game if i don't get hammered here.

but if i do, it's really not the end of the world, i didn't pour my soul into the game or anything

Jessica, if you are town, unvote and think again. If mafia, ok go ahead.

I going sleep, i don't want wake up and realise we lost. Even one townie on me allow scum to hammer.

Didn't you say "Don't rush"?

This was Enchant’s post after I put him to E-1.

I don’t believe you. My read has pretty much done a total 180 on you and you aren’t the slightest bit bothered by it and what townie ever is this nonchalant about being the game-losing miselim?

You could believably argue that if you’re supposed miselim wouldn’t actually end the game and it’s pretty damn clear from your complete lack of caring here, that it won’t.

[Jessica Rabbit]

where was i motivated d2 before i died?

You were very obviously enthusiastic to try to solve and you not caring about the game possibly ending isn’t town.

intent to hammer

I am practically begging you to not lose my initial tr on you and you’re not even trying. I think it’s extremely obvious you’re scum now.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Should I just hammer because I can’t see how Infinity is still town here?

[Jessica Rabbit]

please don't

You were very obviously enthusiastic to try to solve and you not caring about the game possibly ending isn’t town.

why am i being scumread for stopping caring about a game no one else wanted to win?

What happened to this?

[Jessica Rabbit]

i feel ok about losing but now i feel like it's gonna be my fault for not putting more effort in

Why would you feel okay about losing? Yes because as long as you’re scum and Dwelee’s town, we very likely do win this.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Fmpov game is already lost if infinity is town cause gyspray could just come and hammer so do whatever you want jess

If she was acting townie, I would beg you to unvote but I don’t think so. I think maybe she’s afraid, her team will lose regardless?

[Jessica Rabbit]

i feel like i've explained my position a million times already

Yes, your position is you don’t care and Dwelee scum by PoE but none of that makes me think you’re actually town here.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i feel ok about losing but now i feel like it's gonna be my fault for not putting more effort in

This statement might actually be true if she’s scum here giving up?

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3, you have my permission to hammer Thorfinidrasse.

or I might because I think she’s probably scum.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Jessica T3 have joined the Dwlee party.

Release the luftballoons!

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 has been murder death killed.

He was:

Town Post-Mortem Tracker

.

Welcome to Would You Like to Be My Hydra? Mafia

You are a Town Post-Mortem Tracker. When you die, you may choose a player. Your role will become that player's role and you will occupy the same player slot as that player for the rest of the game. If you target a Vanilla Townie with this ability, they will instead inherit your role.

Additionally, when you die you may choose a player to track. You will be told who, if anyone, that player targeted during the next night phase. If you were to die on D1, for example, you would receive results for N1. If you were to die on N1, you would receive results for N2.

[Jessica Rabbit]

So T3 tracked Enchant on N2 and he didn’t go anywhere.

[Jessica Rabbit]

So T3 tracked Enchant on N2 and he didn’t go anywhere.

Jingle also said Enchant didn’t go anywhere on N3 either, so it has to be gypsray.

[Jessica Rabbit]

If I'm scum, yesterday I just need to say I'm okay voting enchant and it would happen. I cased thorfinidrasse and convinced Jess slot to vote there instead of enchant.

Infinity was also pretty much open wolfing at that point. I was also extremely suspicious that neither Ydrasse nor gypyx had barely posted. That was extremely sus as well.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Enchant, scum knows you're town and just faked the green to gain your trust. Don't throw this.
VOTE: dwlee99

Yes because Jingle told us he didn’t go anywhere both nights, which means it’s you. Wtf does “faked the green” even mean?

[Jessica Rabbit]

T3 has been murder death killed.

He was:

Town Post-Mortem Tracker

.

Welcome to Would You Like to Be My Hydra? Mafia

You are a Town Post-Mortem Tracker. When you die, you may choose a player. Your role will become that player's role and you will occupy the same player slot as that player for the rest of the game. If you target a Vanilla Townie with this ability, they will instead inherit your role.

Additionally, when you die you may choose a player to track. You will be told who, if anyone, that player targeted during the next night phase. If you were to die on D1, for example, you would receive results for N1. If you were to die on N1, you would receive results for N2.

But that's how I figured out it was you infinity, poe

I think Thorfinidrasse is scum and as long as I’m right about you, we’re probably winning this.

This was clearly a hint that we were going to have a result on either Enchant or gypspray and not Dweele. And thanks to scum messing up by killing T3 insted of us, we did.

[Jessica Rabbit]

We don't have a result for enchant on N2, only N3.

T3 dies on N2 so we get the result based on N3.

Well, it’s the N3 result that counts anyway, so that’s fine.

[Jessica Rabbit]

When you got result?

After joining hydra or before?

I think it would have been before but t3 and Jess pre-decided they would join me if they died.

T3 checked you on N2 but we didn’t get the resukts ‘till today.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Gypyx spray has been eliminated.

The town of Jessica/T3/Dwlee/Enchant wins!

\o/

Scum misplayed by killing T3 instead of us, allowing T3 to get a confirmed track on Enchant.

T3 is town mvp for fooling scum with his accurate albeit misleading PR claim. Scum should have been more suspicious that he’d outright claim but tbf, I probably would have also been fooled by that as well.

However, I think maybe scum might have had a better shot killing us first.

I was actually unsure until now if we hydra’d Dwelee or he hydra’d us because of what Jingle posted in our hydra chat.

Buy eventhough we thought it was probably gypspray, we wanted to join our most confident tr, because I was sure we were winning adter Thorfinidrasse red flip.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Mod PT is now public (link in OP). Other PT's will be released in ~48 hours. All players have mod powers to edit their respective posts in PTs.

The setup was fully vanilla except for T3's role. I judged, apparently fairly accurately, that the public alignment shifting of players would provide enough of an avenue of additional scumhunting to sufficiently townside the setup.

Mechanically, Jessica/T3 should have gone for the scum outside the 1v1 on D3 and scum should have no killed the last night, but honestly the difference either choice would have made was so small it didn't really matter.



I would like to apologize for the lack of VC's this game. I did intend to mod to my normal standard of checking the thread at least 3 times a day, but I had an accident in the family meaning I spent a bit more time taking people to doctors than I expected.

Particularly the deadline mistake in VC 2.2 actually had a significant impact on the game and nearly had a far greater impact by arbitrarily forcing a scum wagon to appear as a EoD wagon when there was actually most of the dayphase remaining. That is on me, and I'm sorry if it negatively impacted your enjoyment of the game.

I think over all the central mechanic went pretty well, although it's probably best suited for a larger game with a larger scumteam and some amount of town power to encourage engagement. If anyone has setup thoughts I'd be happy to hear them, but I don't think this would be an unreasonable setup to run as a mountainous full open.

I really hope everything is okay Jingle? I hope your family is alright.

Ydrasse and gypyx not posting was really really sus. Thor sounded pretty townie and Infinity did initially post-hydra but sounded very obviously scummy near the end. No townie ever is that chill about being the game losing miselim, so it was pretty clear who I was going to vote for after that.

I think both bugspray and Thor tried initially not to be too obvtown, so that their play wouldn’t drastically change if they hydra’d with scum. Infinity otoh, was super obvtown on D1 but couldn’t maintain that level of obvtown presence. I think in this kind of setup, you need to tailor your play with your intentions. Infinity’s dramatic change in WIM which Enchant pointed out, was increasingly obvious as the day went on.

I kind’ve feel bad for Enchant, being the only player not to hydra but it really wouldn’t have made a lot of sense for us to have hydra’d with the slot we tracked and I wanted to be on the winning team, which was clearly town atp.

Gg and I enjoyed this setup. I would play this again.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I hope your family is alright.

Nothing life threatening, just time consuming, but thanks for the thoughts all the same.

Relieved to hear it. Will the scum PT be released soon?