Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Enchant]

No one picked 1...

Why I didn't?
Why.

VOTE: Titus

[Enchant]

Bee is Vigilante 100%.

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Because you are first in queue

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Enchant, do you have any particular reason for the Titus vote?

Bee is Vigilante 100%.

Why would you reveal that?

-Harvey

It's obvious, every townie worth salt pick Vig.

[Enchant]

Can i counterask.

Why you asking me about reason of vote on Titus, on damn RVS where everyone vote everyone for sake of that.

[Enchant]

ManateeGal and Thor didn't post but share diffe... Oh right, memes.

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Can I countercounterask?

Why do you think everyone voted randomly when there have been expressed (and unexpressed) reasons?

Can i countercountercounter ask?

Why i should assume you have reasons? just realise, it's random in fancy box.

[Enchant]

Because it's not truth, why two people who didn't post on different positions.

[Enchant]

Can I countercounterask?

Why do you think everyone voted randomly when there have been expressed (and unexpressed) reasons?

Can i countercountercounter ask?

No.

No u.

[Enchant]

Also, why mention Thor explicitly?

Because i remember him more than others.

[Enchant]

If you really want to know.

Titus, because he used 999999999999 and somehow still higher than me.
Dirty play.

[Enchant]

Because.

It's random.
This reason is stupid and random.
Which is...
...

Really.

[Enchant]

No, i don't think so. One kill in early game doesn't make much difference. It could be used for SURPRISE in the end... But nah, because it's strange to not shot things as Vig-Townie.
Expect for 3-Night vig, which is same as 1-Shot vig, but probably made specially to not make this strange.

If digging deep, it's obvious who have PRs. So if one makes really insane shots as Vig which benefit mafia more, i believe we find him fast.


Also, i assume everyone as town, unless there's reason for otherwise.

[Enchant]

Could scum pick same number with someone?

Otherwise all samenumber pickers can't be both mafia i think.

[Enchant]

Sacrifice PR chances for that?...

... Honestly brilliant. No one expect that.

[Enchant]

They have little higher chances, yes.

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... Only i here tried to being higher in quoue to get best roles?

[Enchant]

I have strange urge to townread Thor.

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Only Yakuza eat raw fish.

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I fear no man.

But that... Thing.

VOTE: Enchant

It scares me.

[Enchant]

I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

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Thor is more passive and not funny as maf (i saw his town and mafia in one game).
Helay and Haley because of townie reaction on "You are Vig" and overall decent game.

[Enchant]

Prove it.

[Enchant]

Then i won right now.

[Enchant]

Helay and Haley

-Helay

Well, you admitted so sorry not sorry.

[Enchant]

I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

Why these slots in particular?

Because i think they are town

[Enchant]

I disagree, why town can't try to get best PR (VIGILANTE)?

[Enchant]

I disagree, why town can't try to get best PR (VIGILANTE)?

You mean, the best PR to take away from scum? One-shot vig is surely not better than cop or doctor, but it is much better for scum.

What sense taking Cop/Doc, if you will be nightkilled fast, because mafia know who is PR.

1-Shot vigilante is better, because you still can shot someone in short time.
You also could considering taking PGO, but... Well. Different tastes?

[Enchant]

This conversation is not helpful

Didn't read what next, i didn't ask your mind, ty.

[Enchant]

This conversation is not helpful

Didn't read what next, i didn't ask your mind, ty.

I didn't ask you to obvscum either as it ruins the mystery.

Can't hear you-u-u.

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I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

Can you explain this vote, Enchant? Are you scumreading me, sheeping Thor, or something else?

I am voting outside people who i think is town. Simple.

It's not like i have better ideas yet.

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Bee, why Thor is mafia?

[Enchant]

Eh.

If Gamma breaking rules, why you don't report him?

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VOTE: Miss Midnight

?

Seems like i was fast with townreads.

Why MM is mafia?

[Enchant]

I should what?

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House, why you think i am mafia?

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Long for midnight by voting miss midnight

Enchanting?

Yes, but no.

[Enchant]

Thor is smartest person in this game.

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This is Town Thor.

As scum he suddenly turned passive and boring in our game.

I don't believe he would act differently if he is scum from start.

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100% if i ask Bee about reason, she will tell "lol idk i just starting wagons before it sticks".

No, really wtf.

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Manatee, i think that's sarcasm.

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Million of flies can't be wrong.

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Idk why i am even targeted here.

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Million of flies can't be wrong.

Interesting response when her next move was to vote you

You don't know full quote then.

[Enchant]

I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

With such a wide pool of "murder everyone else outside of these 5", why did you choose to vote Cat?

Why i should voted anyone else?

[Enchant]

I think Thor, Bee, Heley and Helay, MM, House townie enough to pass.

Murder everyone else and we win.

VOTE: Cat

Let's try this a different way...

Why do you consider these players town?

Thor is town, because of... Why i need it explain, just look. You scumread him simple because he "doesh't play like normal town", but you forget, everyone have different town play.

Bee not townread now. Probably i am hypocrite, but she certanly doesh't care at all who is elimmed. As long as it's not her of course.

Haley and Huley still looks fairly townie for me, i started to townread her from "Vigilante" question on which she reacted townie.

MM... I quess gut. I can't explain really.

You are same, with a bit "I don't think scum gets wagoned so fast for idiotic reasons"

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Thor is town, because of... Why i need it explain, just look. You scumread him simple because he "doesh't play like normal town", but you forget, everyone have different town play.

Several players are "looking" and consider him a worthy vote. What do you see that they don't?

Also, i am not one of those players. I've been townreading him for a while.

I played with him.

As scum he is passive junk, even if he tried to told otherwise.
Here's he is funny.

Bee not townread now. Probably i am hypocrite, but she certanly doesh't care at all who is elimmed. As long as it's not her of course.

I mean, yeah... a little.

If it's not acceptable to you for her to do this, why are you surprised that a wagon built on you?

Hmmm.

Can't answer then.

[Enchant]

Did you call me autist.

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Bee not townread now. Probably i am hypocrite, but she certanly doesh't care at all who is elimmed. As long as it's not her of course.

Where do you get this impression? She's been pretty vocal against a Thor wagon.

?

...

Eh. Why there's Thor.

She voted Penquin, MM and Me with "?" explaination, probably waiting if everyone will follow.
Maybe not scummy, but strange.

[Enchant]

Prodge.

Sorry, i have pretty much fucked day. And will have it for some time, so no mafia games today.

[Enchant]

I just remembered.

Titus, could you say why i looks scared? Because i am never scared.
Well. Unless i need decide things.

[Enchant]

Gamma, aren't you was sure that's me/Ha-ha?

What made you change mind?

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If something need to be done, make it self.

VOTE: Penquin

I am bad with accusations, but i think he is maf. It's of course hilarious i accuse him of inactivity, but that's truth. I expect from mafia to hide in plain sight and blend in, which he doing perfectly, considering almost no one bat a eye on him (there was votes but they disappear very fast).

[Enchant]

Can you explain why?

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Ok, i feel self dumb now.

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VOTE: Gamma

[Enchant]

What?

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...
I kinda wanna ask why you chose to vote me? If it's because you're counterwagoning to survive, why not miss midnight?

Because i think you are more likely mafia than MM.

[Enchant]

Well. Yes?

[Enchant]

Well. Yes?

Okay.
Why am I scummier than MM to you?

Hard to explain.

I don't think mafia makes something like this:

Could someone who was scum... make this??

[Enchant]

Whatever.

I will go to sleep.

[Enchant]

Idk

Not really feeling either the Gamma or the Enchant wagon

don't feel bad for this, stock in the enchant wagon is tanking and you're in a good spot

Agreed on the good spot. I'll

mislim

Enchant over Gamma 10 times out of 10 if it comes to it, though.

So you already know i am mislim?

[Enchant]

Fair.

Well, i was not joking about "could mafia do that". If you look at paint, you see knife in MM hands.

I think as mafia she would write flower or something cute instead.

[Enchant]

Of note is that in the past I have fallen into the trap as scum of pushing PP ("pushing" by my standards being putting in my PoE) because he's quiet, and I have usually been met with this response and been confused/frustrated about it.

Enchant's response to it really throws me, though, because it's counter to my intuitions as either alignment.

Interesting, I re-read that part and it's really... odd to see Enchant not just instantly accept House's towncase based on "tone, analytical, genuineness", but also say he was feeling dumb for having thought PP was scum.



Enchant, was there anything specific you found convincing in House's towncase of Penguin?

I feeled dumb because i can't understand what House was talking about, even after reading Penquin iso two times, not because i am really convinced. I also don't have evidence expect for what i already told, and probably will simple wait for end of world, trying convince you all.

There also possibility i am wrong, which happens often, so i simple believe House on word for now. Maybe issue will be solved after i done what i planned on future. If i survive day that's it.

[Enchant]

Just wake up.

Reading.

[Enchant]

I townread House, because i find his nature of posting a townie. He was plenty understandbly annoyed by Thor. I disliked push on him at all, because you seemed just sheeping Gamma who made up accusation like "Can't tell why but he is mafia". Like, i too have another reasons for townreading him, but can't tell them, now what?

[Enchant]

What is it?

[Enchant]

What?

[Enchant]

Who is OGI?

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Well then, i remember you taked up it though. Seems i got this whole thing wrong.

House of course doesn't look ideal, especially after "miselim", but i still consider townie enough to pass.

Also, what question?

[Enchant]

You just got more townread from pagetop, congratulations.

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I mock you for mocking Thor actually.

Couldn't resist it.

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No.

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What blatant misrep?

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I didn't lie.

I saw your post where you called House scummy because of ongoing game, now you claiming you didn't that?

You did.

[Enchant]

Actually Penguin asked why i townread you, so i answered, then shit thrown on the fan and it started.

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"Blame"

Wtf, you asked what motivates me, i answered.

[Enchant]

Not much, but it made a bit clear.

While i interpreted reasons wrong, Gamma calling me liar is something dumb.

Like, there WAS post where Gamma claims House is suspicious because of other game, now calling me liar like post never happened.

[Enchant]

Oh.

Well. I lied seems. Can't find it.
Apologies.

[Enchant]

boop

For first i need coffee.

[Enchant]

Enchant, are you a native speaker? Just curious, mostly.

No.

Enchant, are you a native speaker? Just curious, mostly.

You = whole Town in this post.

[Enchant]

By Town i mean Town, not "Town" faction.

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UNVOTE:

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That was not hammer, Auro already voted before. It was still E-1.

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Gamma reaction to hammer looks town.

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I am tempting to suggest no-elim and let give PR time to work.

... Joke. I just suggested it, statistic say we elim townie 1d most likely, so why not?

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I am E-1 seems?

[Enchant]

Fine.

Why you disagree with me though?

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Why not vote someone you think is town?

I think that disagreeing with voting town is common sense.

I don't want vote town wtf.

[Enchant]

No.

What is wrong in trying to coordinate town PRs?

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Can i sleep atleast?

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When you argue, it's mostly midnights for me and i sleep. I just wake up.

I write big post about wagons and it got deleted when almost done, because i presses wrong button. I don't want to write it again, so base idea:

I don't really sure what's going on. But right now it looks like Gamma is more likely town, not only because of townie reaction on "Hammer, you ded", but because i would die already like 100 times if Gamma was mafia, because it's easy to get me killed here instead of her.

I think voting Manatee is good idea still, it could be old trick to collect votes and then dismantle wagon for DISTANCING points. No, really, mafia love to wagon each other on start of day for weak reasons at start, knowing it will dismantle and give more town points (because after someone accused and then "proved" innocence we tend to believe him more. Psychology.)

VOTE: Manatee

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Titus is moon logic acolyte. Idk if that's really scummy for her.

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VOTE: Titus

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I am here right now.

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I am here right now.

I know. Been 4 hours-ish since you mentioned going to sleep.

No-no.

I was SLEEPing before.

I just wake up when post made.

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Titus is moon logic acolyte. Idk if that's really scummy for her.

This isn't moon logic. This is scum!titus trying to manipulate.

Already realised, but Titus IS moon logic acolyte which i knew fro... Oh god not again.
I simple know.

[Enchant]

This post is evidence that I am town.

It's stopped being funny long ago.

[Enchant]

So you voting me because 3 of people you want to kill vote me?

Based.

[Enchant]

Backwards my suspects are voting for me

You said on "Enchant" wagon... Nevermind.

Who are they? Well, excluding me obviously.

[Enchant]

I go to sleep now.

See ya.

[Enchant]

GeorgeBailey