Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: mantaeegal

no aquatic mammalian alliance?

[ManateeGal]

hmph.

VOTE: pemguinpower

[ManateeGal]

can't even spell my name right

smh

[ManateeGal]

do i think speculating where scum positioned themselves is helpful? no.

do i have anything else of importance to add? also no

[ManateeGal]

hi friends o/

[ManateeGal]

my username!!!

[ManateeGal]

@tw

no reason im still voting pp LOL. i dont have nearly enough thoughts in regards to the game

[ManateeGal]

do i have anything else of importance to add? also no

Do any of the votes on your wagon look suspicious? Towny? Opportunistic?

-Harvey

meh. too much of it was formulated in rvs for me to have a substantial opinion. not the hugest fan of tw naked voting me and avoiding answering why given the size of it

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: the worst

sorry ducky!

[ManateeGal]

Who's in the mood for some sweet, sweet RQS?

-Harvey Dent

yes yes!!

[ManateeGal]

Oh, and for anyone wondering why i picked 4 (I remember someone askeda general question about picks), it's my favorite low level number and i wasn't concerned about rolling PR because i don't want my possible miselim for low content hurting town.

Feels like this is trying too hard to justify yourself.

I feel like this is fine, but dropping a vote on Manatee without comment on the quickly formed counterwagon is what feels a bit off to me...?

-H

i mirror this thought process

[ManateeGal]

is there a basis for the enchant wagon im missing?

mine seems to be based off of lack of content or interactions which is... fine considering what i've done so far.

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: House

[ManateeGal]

is there a basis for the enchant wagon im missing?

mine seems to be based off of lack of content or interactions which is... fine considering what i've done so far.

Why is it fine? What's the problem with pushing awkward, low content slots?

i dont know what youre trying to get at here

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: House

mmmmmmm

why?

aforementioned vote on me being weird. weirder to use "site meta" regarding lurking as a reason when i had more posts at the time.

[ManateeGal]

Frozen scum. The most recent pop-in was pretty blatant.

With the way site meta seems to be going lately, i can buy this.

VOTE: ManateeGal

Oh, and hi. Y'all won't see too much of me through the week, but I'll be around.

this implied to me a discussion abt scum lurking meta on-site. its a weird vote with weird reasoning and it doesnt feel genuine.

[ManateeGal]

I find it interesting that, prior to my vote on her, Manatee was an empty ISO with nothing of consequence coming from that slot.

Looks to me like she saw an opportunity to attack a vulnerable vote on her due to the fact i had not been participating in the game until that point, and jumped on it.

Gamma is also sus for calling her response to the wagon towny. A cursory glance at her ISO confirms every word in my post.

consider: my wagon is one of few larger events in the game so analyzing it is a good place to start

[ManateeGal]

i like all of the house wagon and cant see a reason to move my vote rn. nothing much else to add LOL i've been pretty busy but i'll be around tmrw

[ManateeGal]

i think their engagement and inquisition w other players is a pretty good look

[ManateeGal]

Is there a particular line of questioning you liked?

not really!! i was just skimming their iso and i was like "i like the amount of question marks in here"

[ManateeGal]

i dont like thors pagetop post but what i dislike more is house's constant signalling about how wrong it is

[ManateeGal]

its stupid

[ManateeGal]

house/gamma is like 3 headaches at once

[ManateeGal]

i mean i shouldnt need to lay out how pagetops specifically arent AI when we have other metrics that make way more sense to determine activity in relation 2 scumminess

[ManateeGal]

speaking of

[ManateeGal]

[ManateeGal]

i mean i shouldnt need to lay out how pagetops specifically arent AI when we have other metrics that make way more sense to determine activity in relation 2 scumminess

So you agree with me, but hate that i said it?

well i think the fact you kept coming back to it after it had happened to signal how wrong it was instead of engaging in other ways feels performative

[ManateeGal]

boop

Oh cool, you're town!

house im talking abt these

[ManateeGal]

@Enchant

well yea obviously but it still reads like performative outrage

[ManateeGal]

if enough people arent reading it the same way i am then im ready to admit my interpretation is wrong

and
VOTE: Enchant

[ManateeGal]

im trying to pull myself out of lurking but i feel theres a minimal amount of things for me to comment on given the gamestate :/

[ManateeGal]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on my attack on Gamma, Fae/Gamma's positions, House, and Enchant.

I think House stepped up his play and has posted a lot I find myself in agreement with lately: I find that towny. What do you think?

-Harvey

i relooked at gammas iso and theres not much that really jumped out for a townread. I think your analysis of his content before seems on-point and he's probably a player i'll be keeping my out for.

is fae flea? i know those r the pronouns fae uses.

I'd agree that house stepped it up, though I'll admit I'm not really a fan of his vote on me. In most of his other content I either agree or find the process servicable so im not going to let one piece taint completely my viewpoint.

Enchant is still doing pretty meh. I'm voting him just for pressure at this point but it doesn't appear effective and I'm really waiting for more from him so I can formulate a push or move somewhere else.

[ManateeGal]

i mean i voted house in 333

so a long time ago with a lot of house posting in between. huge amount of content to change my opinion. theres nothing specific that changed my mind on him just as i mentioned seeing him step up

[ManateeGal]

would you prefer i made something up?

[ManateeGal]

am procrastinating from an actual catch-up. continuing to not like enchant

[ManateeGal]

i keep trying to catch up and then my eyes freeze trying to read the bulk of MM's content. is this the basis for the wagon on them?

[ManateeGal]

finally

[ManateeGal]

guh. i'll probably need to reread the game tomorrow to get a grip on shit

[ManateeGal]

im freezing up again and i dont wanna be. give me a few more days.

[ManateeGal]

im asking 4 patience in general. i know i havent carried my weight so far

[ManateeGal]

im asking 4 patience in general. i know i havent carried my weight so far

Okay. I promise i won't shoot you tonight. (I kid, i kid.)

[ManateeGal]

hqrahajabajjsnakskzksns i do not know why i am strugglinh to play this game mental blocks r the worst im gonna try to do isos tmrw so if theres anyone specific people r curious abt my thoughts on do lmk

[ManateeGal]

i cant find my last post. expect content soon

[ManateeGal]

i think i'll talk abt my wagon to start off. i dont think a majority are voting me opportunistically, but Im gonna check the isos of the wagon so far to draw a proper conclusion. I think its understandable given the promises I've made so far and my ability to follow through. I'm getting a pretty bad mental block this game that is making it way harder then it should be to do basic stuff, so i dont. blame any townies on my wagon, i only hope i can produce more content so peoples read on me isnt informed by next-to-nothing. im gonna check the votes on me so far and organize my thoughts on them next before looking through the isos the worst suggested i do the other.

[ManateeGal]

someone said smth abt preferring engagement with me to isos so i wanna let everyone know i will be around for like all of today. im still gonna get around to doing isos.

[ManateeGal]

Bee vote on me i think is pretty good. The intention feels genuine and I think their desire for a new wagon reads as pretty towny in general.
Gamma's vote is ???? Im pretty sure they were already scumreading me so im not sure why they used bee starting a pressure wagon as the time to lay down a vote
the worst had a naked vote,, which makes sense and is fine with meeeeeee. not much 2 read in to here.
Thor said my iso sent shivers down his spine which is fair,,, cos same im not proud of what ive done so far.
i dont think flea really thinks my frozen-ness here is comparable to NQN (i think thats what fae is talking abt). not a fan of that vote cos i think those scenarios are pretty different.
pp naked vote is fine.

[ManateeGal]

im pretty confident in at least one scum being on my wagon rn, and i think the most questionable votes lie in gamma/flea

[ManateeGal]

i think i'll do flea and gamma iso in a bit yeaaaaaaaa ok

[ManateeGal]

realization: isoing does very little to help me develop a read

[ManateeGal]

MG also said she would be here all day. Where did she go?

mental health. im back now.

[ManateeGal]

realization: isoing does very little to help me develop a read

Just read the last handful of pages and let me know what you think of people's tone/input without all context. That's a start.

im gonna answer this one now given recent events
houses agression seems towny though i do not think hes understanding what i was saying which is pretty frustrating to read.
gammas attempts at interpetation between different players make me like him more then flea.

[ManateeGal]

ok im gonna lay this out as calmly as i can cos today has been very very frustrating in and out of game.

house you are either purposely or unconciously misunderstanding and miscontruing my statements regarding my wagon. gammas vote on me was directly after bee placed their vote stating they wanted to wagon me to develop a read. i thought this was odd considering gamma had already stated. i am begging u to look critically and analytically at my statement and think about context.

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: flea

[ManateeGal]

in that game i was really active in refuting a case made against me as scum, and before that was reasonably active and engaged. I didn't dissapear or stop engaging in the way I have here so i dont understand fleas pov here

[ManateeGal]

i dont like your vote on me, it feels the most opportunistic. in part to answer tw's question i dont like the nitpicking either

[ManateeGal]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12913264
this is the scum iso flea is talking abt and i just do not think it compares at all to this game

[ManateeGal]

idk i kind of sorted through my thoughts from the post I made abt everyone voting me. after singling you and gamma out and generally liking gamma more as of recent pages it left you to vote.

i really dont like your vote on me and i am extremely doubtful my wagon is completely clean

[ManateeGal]

i feel like there's 1-3 scum in {flea,mg}

thats a lie created by the government!

[ManateeGal]

Manatee, do you have a demotivated town game to share with us to compare

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=76784

@MM im looking for a scumgame

[ManateeGal]

god i hate looking through my old account

[ManateeGal]

Any other Manatee scum games people could link?

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 7&t=111140

[ManateeGal]

i think both players had at least some aforementioned read on me, and they didnt try to posture their vote with a reasoning i disagree with

[ManateeGal]

my reads in poorly formatted list

[Titus, Bee]
[CSF. the worst, PP, Auro, House]
[S_S, Thor, MM] null
[Enchant, Gamma]
[Flea]

[ManateeGal]

ok im gonna lay this out as calmly as i can cos today has been very very frustrating in and out of game.

house you are either purposely or unconciously misunderstanding and miscontruing my statements regarding my wagon. gammas vote on me was directly after bee placed their vote stating they wanted to wagon me to develop a read. i thought this was odd considering gamma had already stated. i am begging u to look critically and analytically at my statement and think about context.

this kinda makes sense but just because I followed Bee doesn't mean I shared her reason for voting you

ohh i guess i could understand that. i'll admit my conclusion on you was wrong then

[ManateeGal]

we could just flash elim enchant for the laughs.

i would be fine w this

[ManateeGal]

i dont hold it against you at this point

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: enchant

[ManateeGal]

hmm

[ManateeGal]

house my scumread on enchant happened way before he was run up. i was also like the second voter on their wagon.

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: Something_Smart

[ManateeGal]

Why?

Lack of vote at EoD combined with an iso that reads as avoidant of any big stances makes me pretty suspicious

[ManateeGal]

i'll trust you on that then

VOTE: Auro

[ManateeGal]

i'll trust you on that then

VOTE: Auro

Why Auro?

sheeping mr penguin till i get a handle on my own opinions

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: MM
being able to sheep two townreads at once???

[ManateeGal]

i dont hold it against u mr housey. i'll hold it against anyone else though

[ManateeGal]

Can a couple of people unvote me? I'm really starting to feel the pressure and it's making it really hard to form coherent thoughts without being worried more people will scumread me for saying something dumb. It's hard for me to work in these constrained environments.

you have.... two votes on you

[ManateeGal]

was gonna declare my imminent lowered activity but it seems we're close 2 EoD

[ManateeGal]

bam

[ManateeGal]

house didnt you chastise me earlier for voting S_S?

[ManateeGal]

i miss housey already

[ManateeGal]

bit skeptical the fully claimed pr hasnt been nked

[ManateeGal]

Titus?

yeah

[ManateeGal]

ManateeGal you feel like you got your WIM back yet?

its a lot better but im just entering my first week of school so im working on adjusting and carving out time for mafia

[ManateeGal]

sorry im here!! Im a little hesitant but mostly confident w s_s right now so i'll check everyones thoughts out tonight

[ManateeGal]

VOTE: Auro
tmrw i am parker infront of my screen 2 talk