Newbie 2078 - Game Over

[HockeyFan]

Hi everyone!!

Heres just some preliminary thoughts(Please note: I only

really

read the first few pages)

I read all of that as alignment indicative. Titus town

VOTE: Dew

I am {assuming} this is a meme but what prompted u to say. IIrc u said somewhere that u have past experience with Titus, so is this general entrance town for titus?

Yoyo I'm here
Been a while since I actually played Mafia again, thanks for having me

-snip-

VOTE: Titus

Your long wall post ain't gonna fool me!1!1!1!

Sheesh such a town opening

Oh, and I forgot. VOTE: AlwaysNever

uhhhhh....

VOTE: Greeting

1 thing tho, what was the motive behind this vote





Ok overall game thoughts now

Dew/Dorsey's interaction on pg 1 seemed super ???, like 17 makes no sense imo. Unlike others tho, i dont see anything AI in it

Doresy is I think anti paired with AlwaysNever because of thier interactions(ESEPECIALLY posts like 137.) Ftr i think the anti pairing only applies on a scum flip so yes they can still both be town

Uhoh/Dew are overall hard reads, didnt really get much from thier iso, tho I will say Dew's tone doesnt seem that scum to me

Greeting is a big wildcard to me and thier posting is all over the place. Someone said that they were "coached" which Idt is the case. Like its really hard to read this slot. Some of thier posts like 96 are posts that i like but then we have posts like 197 and 215 ..... ugh

RCE's general charisma in thread is NAI imo and outside of that, theres nothing else that stands out to me

Gpa - Im not suprised this guy is playing scummy(some times i think he does it on purpose), but uhhh idk no read, its so hard to SR people in this game gdi

Titus- This slot tbh is a comprise in terms of ppl im sring. I dont see any town posts(not like I see any scum posts), but ehh its mainly just POE and i have to sr

soemone

right?

TLDR:

Town Read:
AlwyasNever

Town Lean:
Dew

Nullish town:
Dorsey(ik i didnt express alot of my thoughts on this slot but I think thier progression has been semi-ish towny?)
Greeting

Null:
RCE
UhOh

Nullish Scum:
Grandpa

SL:
Titus

[HockeyFan]

Ok I just saw I was at E-1 which is :\

[HockeyFan]

oki lets see the 4 ppl voting me

Dew(voted at 206) : Voting someone for putting thier SR(at least I think they srd greeting) at e-1 seems super ??. If your argument is "wait until closer to deadline", I do not believe that people shouldnt be allowed to hammer before the full 7-10 days

Titus(voted at 172): Again, voting someone for VOTING THIER SR like ???. Titus called it a wolfy bus, but I dont see why TL needs to bus Greeting there. Sure, u can call it a wolfy pop on, but idt thought process of 153 comes from scum!TL wanting to ML greeting

Greeting(voted at 215) : Greeting voted TL over 209, a post which Idt is factually incorrect. Can you elabroate on how its "not satsiafacotry" cuz u didnt really follow up on that later. Also re: 209, I do agree with TL that most of your posts before 209 other 96 were fillery so dt what you're getting at

Granpa(voted at 284)- Mainly voting TL off of associatves so cant really say anything here. I dont think theres a scum between TL/greeting tho, can u elaborate?. Can you also elaborate on 212? How are they alligned?

Overall, I think theres at least 1 scum on this wagon(would say 2 but idt scum buddy up like this to get a mislim). I claim VT, idm getting voted out, u should probs look at Greeting/Titus/RCE/UhUh when I die imo

[HockeyFan]

lol ok. You said a theory of TL's vote was a "wolfy bus" or a "wolfy pop" but u never botherd to explain WHY, and just continued to call TL scum. Idc about u saying wolfy pop cuz that is whatever. But answer this: Why would scum!TL "bus" Greeting there when imo he had no reason to. I have similar thoughts to Greeting in terms of idk why ppl are pairing Greeting with Titus

[HockeyFan]

Hi dorsey! since you're here, I decided to iso u, and there are a few spots where im ??

And Titus's Post 89 is jumping into the middle of a conversation and taking it out of context. TL was saying my vote wasn't RVS (it was) and Post 68 was me challenging his push to retroactively declare that. Are games typically this opportunistic?

What did u think was opportunistic about 89? I do think anyone can get out of RVS anytime they want and TL thinking theres enough "content" to get out of RVS is fine too imo. I generally agree what Titus had to say about RVS(dont argree with the "Dont like this" part but eh).

Can I get people's opinions on these four players?
- UhUhWaitAndSee
- TL The Legend
- RCEnigma
- Titus

Why did you want opinions on these 4 players specifally? I'm reading these quotes out of context so apoligies If someone said smth about this earlier

I feel like AlwaysNever's responses to everyone else in Post 137 was nice and placating, but edgier towards me. I don't know why responding to accusations (being "defensive"?) would 'rustle anyone's jimmies', and how can I be a pro anything when this is my second game? It just seems like a lot of extra for a guy I never addressed.

I don't know why GrandpaMo is so hell-bent to make me scum, first because Dew referenced my profile pic and now because Greeting is being opportunistic. And I don't know if Greeting being "petty" and not claiming is anti-town or if it's anti-game. Either way, I don't know what issues he's dealing with.

What do you mean by "being edgier towards you". You mentioned that it was nice and placating, so why do u care so much that its "edgier" towards you. Fwiw, being defesnive is NAI, sometimes even scum leaning because scum do not want to die d1.

And I don't like that RCEnigma is trying to make me scum with AlwaysNever, but the logic he put forth made sense.

Why are u mad that RCE is pairing u with AlwaysNever? Do you TR them? Also if u think u/always are TvT, why do u think RCE pairing 2 towns together also makes them town?

@UhUh - All those votes were the same person/slot.

@RCE - Honestly I'm hoping that he's scum so I look like shit for tomorrow to keep me from dying tonight. I don't see what he's done worse than the rest of this newbie playlist and I feel like he's low hanging fruit because he doesn't post. I have zero confidence in anyone on his wagon.

This is a town post from you

Thank God you're here

Honestly, I think this is also another town post LOL. Idt scum is thankful that someone makes content to work with. Also, he could have just hammerd me as scum if he really did think this as scum

[HockeyFan]

Ok I re-read Dorseys ISO and Im pretty confidendt in putting them as Town.

I like posts 49, 64 and 139

Still a bit iffy about 240, as Dew really doesnt offer an alternative lim which is eh ig


Isoing Grandpa made me even more confused about them lol, yk what Im just gonna let other ppl read him early game, i cbf to do so rn


About RCE, im also really conflicted here lol

Like 107 seems town but 108 doesnt make sense imo. Exactly what "bigger fish" did you have to fry cuz atp u had no other solid sr's. 232 is also weird cuz why are u accusing someone of chainsawing, when u SR one of titus's lim pool. I may be missing some posts but u certainly didnt express 259 prior, what has made u sr almost half the lobby and who are your trs. What made u switch in 295 from Greeting/TL to Dew/TL?.

Ok i'll iso the other ppl later

[HockeyFan]

sorry dorsey should be dew

[HockeyFan]

Post 139 is AlwaysNever's, not Dew's. RCE said chaining eliminations in 232, not chainsawing. I like what you're doing.

1. oh oops i meant 136

2. Similar enough

[HockeyFan]

Isoing Greeting doesnt make me have much different thoughts then down below. They are Still null imo

Greeting is a big wildcard to me and thier posting is all over the place. Someone said that they were "coached" which Idt is the case. Like its really hard to read this slot. Some of thier posts like 96 are posts that i like but then we have posts like 197 and 215 ..... ugh

Isoing Titus makes me feel confident that they could be more scum lol

162 is throwing random shade to Greeting and I dont like it. I also dont know how Titus gets the "sinking, dark feeling" from Greetings posts(135), more shade to greeting, makes me think greeting/titus are not alligned here. Also doesnt provide any insight in 337 on WHY. Like sr'ing someone for "bussing" is super ??, cuz most of the time, scum dont want to bus d1. Unfort I cant really communicate with Titus since shes vla but w/e

[HockeyFan]

UhUhWaitAndSee is a wildcard, Im not confident in my read on them at all, but null it is

[HockeyFan]

UhUhWaitAndSee is a wildcard, Im not confident in my read on them at all, but null it is

[HockeyFan]

Can other people please talk? Its the only way to get info. I promise i wont bite :^)

[HockeyFan]

Ok so I didnt get to fully read 343 yday night since i was so tired lol, but from a quick skim, its a decentish post?

- I thought Post 89 was misconstruing my sentiments by jumping into the conversation midway through and attacking a statement out of context. Since Titus is an SE and wall-posted intelligibly for her first post, I thought this was done with awareness and purpose.
- I wanted reads on the four players aforementioned because I felt they were floating by with no scrutiny. Other than RCE's reasoning, I don't see why this would happen. (But, even then, "they're scared of me" doesn't seem like that good of a reason if you're in a game full of newbies who don't know who you are.)
- Edgier = meaner, but I didn't want to sound like a child. He said that I was cutthroat, though, so I guess that was his response to thinking I was an asshole. (Or am, I don't know if he still feels that way)
- I don't want RCE pairing me as scum because I'm not scum, but his reasoning made sense when I read it. I like RCE's posting style for the most part because he talks, but I have no reason to think he's town.

i didn't read the two previous posts yet

About RCE: You said the logic he put forth is good but u still dont think hes town? Is it more of a paranoia null read here?

Can other people please talk? Its the only way to get info. I promise i wont bite :^)

i think if you are town you should be pushing greeting here. have u ever come up in ur thought that u and greeting are never t/t?

lol, hi gpa. Anyways, I am not subscribing to your theory of me/greeing being t/s, I looked through Greeting posts AGAIN, and thier reads have not changed. Im aware TL voted greeting but why cant town vote town

[HockeyFan]

About RCE, im also really conflicted here lol

Like 107 seems town but 108 doesnt make sense imo. Exactly what "bigger fish" did you have to fry cuz atp u had no other solid sr's. 232 is also weird cuz why are u accusing someone of chainsawing, when u SR one of titus's lim pool. I may be missing some posts but u certainly didnt express 259 prior, what has made u sr almost half the lobby and who are your trs. What made u switch in 295 from Greeting/TL to Dew/TL?.

In 108 I was still pursuing the discrepancy with what Grandpa was pushing. Which was that there is 1 scum within dew/Dorsey but they weren't willing to throw a vote down in what would be a 50/50 shot to hit scum in their pool. It didn't line up with the confidence they had in that read at the time.

I'll reread 232 to give a more concise answer but I think it was about Titus setting elims up? I was exploring the possible world of Titus!scum and both Greeting/TL being town. Because instead of setting it up as "elim x and then reevaluate on d2" it was more along the lines of "If x elim is town then y is surely scum"

Half the lobby got scummy. Uhuh had dubious posting dew has been a nonfactor, Titus I have paranoia about, grandpa hasn't really left my scumpool. I haven't openly expressed updated reads but Dorsey and always never are fairly towny. They are the only slots I won't consider an elim on today at any rate.

Greeting + TL was never a pairing that I was pushing but was a theory I was willing to put some thought into after the fact because I thought their interactions at the time weren't great so I dove a little deeper to figure out why they actually pinged me weirdly then I presented it. Why did I put forward that dew/TL could be a pairing? Well I don't actually remember. Tried to go through their iso just now to jog my memory but no shot. Maybe it was just the thought that a partner going down would kill their drive to play?

Hm, if this wasnt a SE, i would townlock this so fucking hard

[HockeyFan]

'Newbies afraid of the SE title' doesn't explain why UhUhWaitAndSee wasn't scrutinized. Where was the game where all the SE's were town?

Newbie 2070 is the only game I see rn, theres probs more, but too lazy lol

[HockeyFan]

too much mechanics talk from UhUh and too little game-moving content. This is not AI but I do want to see some more content from uhuhwaitandsee(like asking questions, making reads, giving thoughts e.t.c)

[HockeyFan]

Ok after reading Grandpa'a ISO one more fking time since its so god damm confusing, I am formally declaring him as a TL. This is a meta read since ive played with gpa a fair bit on other sites and this aligns with his town meta(dont let him fool u by saying his town meta is to be pro-town, cuz its not)

[HockeyFan]

to 382, honestly not much has changed here execpt gpa jumping into tl and uhoh going into Nullish Scum. Greeting also into null from nullish town

So yea my lim pool is {Tits,Uhuh}

Also, as a side note, my posting will be very limited this weekend since im going camping

Town Read:
AlwyasNever

Town Lean:
Dew

Nullish town:
Dorsey(ik i didnt express alot of my thoughts on this slot but I think thier progression has been semi-ish towny?)
Greeting

Null:
RCE
UhOh

Nullish Scum:
Grandpa

SL:
Titus

[HockeyFan]

I'm good with HF's pool of Titus/UhUh.

Stop pocketing me

Also, as a side note, my posting will be very limited this weekend since im going camping

You should bold your VLA.

Second, you'll be vla during the deadline

lol im not VLA, my acitivty is just a bit lowerd.

also idk why u guys are so pressed about me actually putting a vote on people I sus, like yea I can sus someone without voting them....

VOTE: Titus. I think its more scum leaning to just dismiss someones sus on you by calling it "bad'

[HockeyFan]

oh fuck deadlines in 13 hours? Well this is the closest i'll be here to deadline, ahhh why do timezones exist. DO NOT SPLIT, just a warning for yall, DO NOT SPLIT. Im tempted to sheep RCE to make not splitting easier, will think about it over the next 20 mins

[HockeyFan]

Grandpa, now is when u say why TL/greeing are paired. I am about to sheep RCE tbh. Gpa, what do u think of UhUh

[HockeyFan]

VOTE: kennyK

[HockeyFan]

k im off for the night, PLEASE dont let stupid shit happen during deadline and condemm someone, idc if its me, as long as u listen to my reads