Mini Normal 2236: Lemon Demon | Game Over!

[House]

house also seems like an alt but idk. he joined a while ago

shortaru would agree, but I was here first.

[House]

hrrrrm cakes smells scummy for that first vote. n_m is the ez pick that nobody will question later tbh

I don't know of anyone who puts too much emphasis on RVS regardless of alignment, tbh.

[House]

Claiming compulsive fruit vendor. It's a miller here so yeah.

Tend to believe this claim.

Mafia vendors could have just sent fruit to each other. Town has no save target for their fruit.

[House]

I feel like town Salsa would be more serious in RVS but have no evidence to back that up.

Don't push me for my general playstyle thing please! I don’t want to replace out from here also

Seems like an easy thing to hide behind.

VOTE: Salsa

[House]

VOTE: house
I don't like his posts on this page

That's NAI. You never like my posts.

[House]

VOTE: house
I don't like his posts on this page

That's NAI. You never like my posts.

What? Since when? I don't even remember the last game I played with you.

Those who don't particularly care for me tend to find me forgettable once I've been gone for a while.

[House]

Claiming compulsive fruit vendor. It's a miller here so yeah.

Tend to believe this claim.

Mafia vendors could have just sent fruit to each other. Town has no save target for their fruit.

You should not have given this idea.

Doesn't matter. That logic only works for one claim anyway.

[House]

And I'm sure the scum team have enough brain cells to spare to figure out safe targets for non-harmful compulsive actions

[House]

I like chaos posting.

But I think we mean different things.

[House]

Sure, ruin the joke.

[House]

I would have died laughing if Cakey had been in the game in my sig.

[House]

VLA Sept 17th through the 20th

Same tbh

[House]

Sorry. My brain is wired to not get jokes.

It was a Groucho Marx type remark.

[House]

Fun fact: normally I work days on Thursdays, but y'all have to put up with me today because I'm always off Mondays so this is my "Labor Day" holiday.

[House]

VLA Sept 17th through the 20th

Same tbh

[House]

Omg, is Salsa an alt of cyrus (or vice versa)?

[House]

I feel like town Salsa would be more serious in RVS but have no evidence to back that up.

Don't push me for my general playstyle thing please! I don’t want to replace out from here also

Replacing out for getting FoSed is strategic sub out and not allowed. I got limmed a lot when just joining too. I feel for you.

Fakeclaim pr as vt every time! That's a surefire way to not get limmed.

I'm a town compulsive self-targeting jailkeeper.

[House]

Claiming compulsive fruit vendor. It's a miller here so yeah.

Tend to believe this claim.

Mafia vendors could have just sent fruit to each other. Town has no save target for their fruit.

Meh, there's both town motivation and scum motivation for this.

Nah.

I believe scum would be too paranoid of the attention they'd draw claiming fruit vendor when it's public knowledge there are 2 scum fruit vendors.

[House]

Actually wait:
Thinking about it, from scum's POV there is a likely Town Compulsive FV. Scum can risk it and claimed Town Compulsive FV but they'll be immediately cc'ed. And based on the power of setup spec there probably aren't 2 town FV's.

Not exactly a great PR to draw out.

[House]

I do agree with this if it were someone not with a 2013 join date.

Are you taking into account the 4-5 years I was banned?

[House]

I do agree with this if it were someone not with a 2013 join date.

Are you taking into account the 4-5 years I was banned?

I'm talking about Titus if that wasn't clear.

That makes no sense? There wasn't a Titus post anywhere in the post you quoted.

Spoiler:

Claiming compulsive fruit vendor. It's a miller here so yeah.

Tend to believe this claim.

Mafia vendors could have just sent fruit to each other. Town has no save target for their fruit.

Meh, there's both town motivation and scum motivation for this.

Nah.

I believe scum would be too paranoid of the attention they'd draw claiming fruit vendor when it's public knowledge there are 2 scum fruit vendors.

I do agree with this if it were someone not with a 2013 join date.

[House]

Well, other than 45, but eh?

[House]

I was saying that I would agree with your point if the player you are talking about was not Titus because she is experienced.

Ok. IDC. I'm sticking by it.

[House]

Keep reading.

[House]

Seems the players whose posts I need to scroll just went up by one.

[House]

Ok. This is one of those games. I'm not getting out my ruler. Play nice.

This IS me playing nice. Disengaging rather than rage tunneling.

[House]

Welp that was 6 pages of nothing. T3 prob town tho.

If you got a read, it clearly wasn't "nothing".

[House]

Up!

[House]

Weak vote is weak.

[House]

Honestly, between Alchemist and Shrek, I'm more suspicious of Alchemist21 for trying to stifle game forwarding content.

VOTE: Alchemist21

[House]

Weak vote is weak.

Careful. Understanding how tautology works is a scum trait imho

Idek what that word means.

Besides, being careful is for scum. Idgaf.

[House]

Careful. Understanding how tautology works is a scum trait imho

Just googled it.

Repeating the same word is not tautological.

[House]

Careful. Understanding how tautology works is a scum trait imho

Just googled it.

Repeating the same word is not tautological.

Saying that a weak vote, ie. a vote that is weak, is weak, is a tautology.

Nope.

[House]

Careful. Understanding how tautology works is a scum trait imho

Just googled it.

Repeating the same word is not tautological.

Saying that a weak vote, ie. a vote that is weak, is weak, is a tautology.

Nope.

[House]

Careful. Understanding how tautology works is a scum trait imho

Just googled it.

Repeating the same word is not tautological.

Saying that a weak vote, ie. a vote that is weak, is weak, is a tautology.

Nope.

confusion

Confused T3 does not understand <- tautology

[House]

Honestly, between Alchemist and Shrek, I'm more suspicious of Alchemist21 for trying to stifle game forwarding content.

VOTE: Alchemist21

Weak vote is weak.

True.

[House]

VOTE: House

For medical malpractice.

Doctor crumb?

VOTE: T3

If he's scum, why wouldn't he ask that in the scum PT?

[House]

DGB's weak vote is even weaker than my admittedly weak vote which was obviously weak.

*triggers MargotRosa with trigger post*

[House]

Up!

[House]

Page top sniper is sniping page tops.

[House]

Wrong MargotRosa is wrong.

[House]

You'll notice that even in the listed examples you provided, the repression occurs in different verbiage.

[House]

You'll notice that even in the listed examples you provided, the repetition* occurs in different verbiage.

[House]

You'll notice that even in the listed examples you provided, the repetition* occurs in different verbiage.

https://prowritingaid.com/Definition-of-Tautology

For your future reference <3

I remember that T. S. Eliot quote from The Stand. ^_^

[House]

Fortunately for you, for all this, I am getting a Town who enjoys irritating people for fun vibe, so I'm letting it slide lol

Are you saying I don't enjoy irritating people for fun as scum?

Maybe it's just my playstyle.

[House]

Not a horrible vote, tbh.

I'm not a fan of players that hand out townreads like treats on Halloween.

[House]

Not a horrible vote, tbh.

I'm not a fan of players that hand out townreads like treats on Halloween.

VOTE: House

That's more like it.

[House]

Just out of curiosity, DGB... what is it about me that you don't like?

Personality? Playstyle? Existence?

[House]

Just out of curiosity, DGB... what is it about me that you don't like?

Personality? Playstyle? Existence?

they hand out townreads like treats on halloween /s

I wasn't purely referring to her vote on me, which I suspect she probably knows.

[House]

why do you end so many sentences with lol, lol? especially that one big dictionary quoting post to house, it reads super weird

inorite lol

[House]

Just out of curiosity, DGB... what is it about me that you don't like?

Personality? Playstyle? Existence?

they hand out townreads like treats on halloween /s

I wasn't purely referring to it's vote on me, which I suspect it probably knows.

Damn. Sorry DGB!

[House]

Honestly don't know. I'm losing my mind a little bit with lockdown in Sydney, Australia about to enter week 11 tomorrow

Oooh, a sheila!

[House]

I am physically incapable of ever voting for MargotRosa.

[House]

Just out of curiosity, DGB... what is it about me that you don't like?

Personality? Playstyle? Existence?

I adore you but complaining about players handing out too many townreads on page 11 is scummy.

I never said anything about the amount of townreads.

I was referring to the WAY she townread me.

"Congrats! Here you go! Run along now."

[House]

Do you think it's a TMI townread?

Idk. I just distrust candy from strangers.

[House]

I never suggested she had TMI. It was a vibe thing.

As if reads are a tool to be used to pacify rather than inform the game state.

[House]

I still can't vote her, though.

[House]

Honestly, between Alchemist and Shrek, I'm more suspicious of Alchemist21 for trying to stifle game forwarding content.

VOTE: Alchemist21

Stifling game forwarding content is so far out of my scumrange tbh
I do think this vote is [dolphins chittering].

Wanna know what I find strange?

You responding to my criticism of Alchemist21 as if I'm addressing you.

Sup with that?

[House]

dolphins chittering]

Dehumanizing speech is nothing new to me. Try harder.

[House]

I kinda like Shrek for town.

[House]

VOTE: iaaa

Not vibing with this.

[House]

Not crazy about LGW posts, either.

[House]

IDC if N_M is town or not, atp.

[House]

wow no one has called me Cakey in ages...

It's almost as if my familiarity with the site is from a bygone era...

[House]

Votecount 1.1

The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny - Lemon Demon

SirCakez

(2): T3, Titus

Little Green Wheels

(2): DrippingGoofball, Salsabil Faria

Salsabil Faria

(2): ChaosOmega, House

Shrek

(2): i am an alternate account, Alchemist21

i am an alternate account

(1): Shrek

House

(1): SirCakez

Titus

(1): Little Green Wheels

T3

(1): MargotRosa

Not Voting

(1): Not_Mafia


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline ends in: (expired on 2021-09-19 06:37:43).

Mod notes:

All players have confirmed! Remember no OGI please![/area]

Lol, i just saw that I'm scumreading both of Shrek's voters.

That's gonna look shit for me if he winds up flipping red (which isn't likely, at least).

[House]

Do you think it's a TMI townread?

I would gladly vote a TMI townread. You're talking about Margot, right?

I feel like this is a trick.

How could I possibly claim she had TMI when I challenged the validity of her opinion?

[House]

Ignore 267, I'm jumping at shadows & it's late.

[House]

I suppose this game didn't have much of an RVS because I immediately started contributing.

Look at you, you're so town.

[House]

I am physically incapable of ever voting for MargotRosa.

Gross! Now you're hiding behind the

sheila

thing or

MR

is your scum partner

UNVOTE: LGW

VOTE: House

Read my GTKAS and that post will make sense.

[House]

I am physically incapable of ever voting for MargotRosa.

Gross! Now you're hiding behind the

sheila

thing or

MR

is your scum partner

UNVOTE: LGW

VOTE: House

Read my GTKAS and that post will make sense.

(You can skip to page 4 for the most relevant bits)

[House]

I am a compulsive town fruit vendor

I don't believe you... but that's not surprising.

[House]

SF, do yourself a favor and watch how people who actually know me interact with me and read me.

I'm... different.

It's good that you're tryharding, but I don't think you know what to look for just yet. Not everything you personally dislike makes a person scum. If it did, I would be voteparked on Shrek. You gotta look past that and find the scum motive for posts.

Scum don't overtly buddy each other in public. MR and I are never scum together. It's infinitely more common for scum to interact with their partners less than town.

[House]

Not a horrible vote, tbh.

I'm not a fan of players that hand out townreads like treats on Halloween.

I prefer handing them out like Oprah.

You get a townread.
You get a rownread.
EVERYONE GETS A TOWNREAD!

You say that, but I've never actually seen you do it.

[House]

I am a compulsive town fruit vendor

prove it by giving me a fruit tonight

Spoiler alert:

N_M is lying.

[House]

Not everything you personally dislike makes a person scum. If it did, I would be voteparked on Shrek. You gotta look past that and find the scum motive for posts.

you know you love me baka

Calling a person an idiot in another language doesn't stop it from being a personal attack

[House]

ok i just wont joke around with you then ig

Probably for the best. You don't know me like that.

[House]

Hey Cakez, here is a blast from the past.

[House]

I still can't vote her, though.

I can. Why does she need to pacify you so early in the game unless she's scum?

Read 316. I'm good with that.

[House]

I still can't vote her, though.

I can. Why does she need to pacify you so early in the game unless she's scum?

Read 316. I'm good with that.

I'm not as impressed with it as you are.

Take it up with her, then

[House]

Page

[House]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=66797

[House]

Screwed up my pagetop snipe, lol.

[House]

Pagetop snipping is scummy.

[House]

VOTE: DGB

Kinda weird how she's making excuses to scumread me and ignoring what should be, from her perspective, growing suspicion on MR.

Not voting for MR isn't sus in itself, but the reasoning for the vote on me is far weaker than the stated suspicion of MR.

[House]

That was embarrassing.

[House]

margot feels really defensive and trying too hard to be casual what with the whole tautology argument at all. assuming she really isnt an alt i think shes newb scum thats nervous of backing down or being wrong at all.

Eh. She's a nitpicker.

I'm a nitpicker.

It was a fun argument.

Also, she wasn't wrong. If you're going to base your read on who was correct, you should be scumreading me.

[House]

(This why you don't use Google as a source, kids!)

[House]

reads rn:

town:
SF
DGB

townlean:
chaosomega
House
alchemist

neutral:
titus
n_m
LGW

scumlean:
iaaa
margot
t3
cakez

Not terrible.

Decent scumleans.
Predictable nulls.
Not sure about the town leans. (Aside from myself, ofc)
Don't get how DGB is such a hard townread. Fair call on SF.

[House]

House's nuances are nuancy. I'm not awake yet to understand.

Weird. I've been accused of having precisely zero nuance.

[House]

Why are people voting DGB?

You... quoted me.

[House]

(indirectly)

[House]

There I go with my scummy pagetop sniping, again.

[House]

And I'll reiterate, why are you voting DGB when it acknowledged a mistake and corrected it?

It's the "just woke up recently and not getting heavy into anything" nuance.

[House]

glom

Why do you even care so much?

It's not like she's at E-1.

[House]

I am a compulsive town fruit vendor

I don't believe you... but that's not surprising.

Do you believe

Titus

's claim?

Read my ISO.

[House]

VOTE: LGW

I can support this.

[House]

I am a compulsive town fruit vendor

prove it by giving me a fruit tonight

Nope! I want fruit from

NM

, you can ask

Titus

.

If y'all both get fruit, I'm voteparking on NM.

[House]

*snicker*

[House]

Fair point, IMO.

[House]

I think T3 is getting a consensus townread WAY to easily.

It's nice to see some sort of suspicion, there.

[House]

is mine

SCUM

reads rn:

town:
SF
DGB

townlean:
chaosomega
House
alchemist

neutral:
titus
n_m
LGW

scumlean:
iaaa
margot
t3
cakez

Serious question: was this readlist randomized?

what do you take issue with

If I had to guess, I'd say the manner in which the names are ordered.

[House]

I think T3 is getting a consensus townread WAY to easily.

It's nice to see some sort of suspicion, there.

A scumread was dropped on me, then an hour later I'm accused of lurking.

Fair

[House]

T3, I like your posting for town overall, it's just that this:

I have the power to 50 post, become UTR, then dip for the rest of the game

... made me paranoid.

You don't seem to be doing that though, so we're good.

[House]

the one about responding to the question addressed to alchemist to explain that something is outside your scumrange. idk im too lazy to go back and get it

Unlazify. He addressed it.

[House]

Meh.

[House]

Over 100 posts (didn't look before just now) and no vibe read?

Not a fan.

[House]

gut says house is scum

Where's your vote?

[House]

If you're gonna call me scum, I want your vote.

Put your weapon where your mouth is.

[House]

I am a compulsive town fruit vendor

prove it by giving me a fruit tonight

Sure, what would you like? Carambola? Persimmon? Rambutan?

If you're talking requests, I would like the fruit of the sandbox tree.

[House]

Over 100 posts (didn't look before just now) and no vibe read?

Not a fan.

no because he plays mostly the same every game we’re in regardless of town or scum

[House]

gut says house is scum

Where's your vote?

"gut"

If you're gonna call me scum, I want your vote.

Put your weapon where your mouth is.

[House]

I'm usually opposed to voting people based on gut if I have a stronger scumread.
Also I tend to scumread aggressive playstyles.

Scumread this

VOTE: T3

[House]

Up!

[House]

I'm usually opposed to voting people based on gut if I have a stronger scumread.
Also I tend to scumread aggressive playstyles.

Scumread this

VOTE: T3

why

I scumread shade without the balls to push it.

[House]

That can hardly be considered shade.

I must be scum, then.

You should probably vote me.

[House]

why me fry me

VOTE: T3

This is dumb.

Eh, kinda agree.

That rationale makes more sense when there's more of a wagon when the player asks.

[House]

Not that I have an affinity for House or anything, but it seems that's where your vote should be.

rood

[House]

Damn we get it. That can hardly be considered shade.

If he really meant it, he would have posted it at least 15 times.

[House]

22 times... don't I look silly...

[House]

"gut" implies a weak scumread.

Your vote being parked on an absentee suspect instead of an active one doesn't make sense.

Sure, you moved it NOW... but a bit too late to save face.

[House]

"gut" implies a weak scumread.

Your vote being parked on an absentee suspect instead of an active one doesn't make sense.

Sure, you moved it NOW... but a bit too late to save face.

ODM deja vu tbh

Blrbl jrbl glrb drbl

[House]

"gut" implies a weak scumread.

Your vote being parked on an absentee suspect instead of an active one doesn't make sense.

Sure, you moved it NOW... but a bit too late to save face.

ODM deja vu tbh

Not really, and I'll tell you why.

My 219 was a TMI leak.

I knew she was town, so I was "suspecting" anyone who pushed her early d1.

[House]

ODM deja vu tbh

If you honestly believe this, it's all the more reason for your vote to be on me, btw.

[House]

T3's scumread of me has evolved from "gut" to "posting feels off" to "ODM deja vu", yet he has still not put a vote on me.

He'd rather waste his vote on players that won't push back instead of the player that is actively attempting to engage with him.

[House]

How does this game have so many pages already?

Yeah, nah...

VOTE: iaaa

Adding a vote: VOTE: i am an alternate account for votecounter ~Koba

[House]

I has a new theory, which is that scum is just laying back and letting town point fingers at each other.

{iaaa, Cakeboss, Chaos, N_M} <- less posts than the mod.

We should lim in that pool.

[House]

Hi guys
Havent played in ages but I'll still easily tell you that the scumteam is Chaos/LGW/Cakez

VOTE: Chaos

Thanks for subbing in. Always a pleasure to see you scum up a game!

[House]

"gut" implies a weak scumread.

Your vote being parked on an absentee suspect instead of an active one doesn't make sense.

Sure, you moved it NOW... but a bit too late to save face.

Why such a hard defense? Scum is scum day 1.

If you're addressing me, that's not D.

[House]

Hello person I haven't played with

Ask him to case his reads.

[House]

alch's iso is pretty bad. could vote there too.

There was this mention btw @shrek

Scum often passively scumreads at least one buddy. That doesn't mean much to me.

Not like he's pushing the wagon.

[House]

The pile on on Cakez is actually disgusting.

VOTE: Cakez

[House]

VOTE: Shrek

He did that knowing NM would hammer and we don’t have a claim yet.

lgw should claim then

You didn’t give intent to put LGW to E-1. You knew Not Mafia wouldn’t give intent. You wanted that quickhammer to happen.

I'd have hammered too if I had been here, tbh.

[House]

The pile on on Cakez is actually disgusting.

VOTE: Cakez

Well you're just trying to troll. >_>

Trying?

I take offense at the implication that there may be doubt!

[House]

LGW already claimed

Just because he told you what he was going to claim in the scum PT doesn't mean he has posted it here, yet.

You people clamoring for a claim will just have to wait.

[House]

I approve of the pushes on the low content posters.

It's amazing how much content they started popping out with a few votes on them.

[House]

Cakez and Alch should both be on E-1

Change Alch to LGW and I'm with you.

[House]

Do it, then.

[House]

VOTE: lgw

[House]

LGW already claimed

did cakez just tmi lgws role.

Read my 696, lol.

[House]

nm get over here

Right??

[House]

Wisdom, I'll give you one internet dollar if you hammer.

[House]

[House]

Cakez, Alch, and LGW all got strangely quiet.

Weird.

[House]

Oh, there you are.

[House]

Look at all those vanity wagons. Going to be great analysing that tomorrow.

Who's the better elimination between Cakez, Alch, and Chaos?

[House]

Idiots.

What do you make of Cakez saying you've already claimed?

[House]

Someone needs to unvote. The Day does not need to end this early. I don't know why that's so hard for people to understand.

[House]

LGW wagon looks pretty righteous, aside from CO.

That's the only player I don't have some level of TR on.

[House]

Pretty sure LGW would have claimed in one of the 2 posts above, if he was town.

I'm sure he's aware that N_M can fly in and hammer without warning at any point.

He may as well hammer himself, as far as I'm concerned.

[House]

3* forgot he deigned to give me an evasion.

[House]

One more on LGW?

You got your wish.

[House]

Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the town my life to keep
If I die before I wake
I pray the town Cakez' life to take

[House]

[House]

The pile on on Cakez is actually disgusting.

VOTE: Cakez

VOTE: Cakez

I still think LGW is town.

737 begs to differ.

[House]

If there is no claim, there goes my town read. So, let's get to it, shall we?

N_M hammered before announcing intent, lol.

[House]

VOTE: Alchemist21

More confident in this flipping scum than Cakez, but neither can make it to Elo even if town or we automatically lose.

[House]

VOTE: Alchemist21

More confident in this flipping scum than Cakez, but neither can make it to Elo even if town or we automatically lose.

Why more Alch than Cakez? I agree on the order but you're way to dramatic.

There was an interaction that casts doubt on Cakez.

Not clearing, but meh.

[House]

I have a soft guilty on Alch.

VOTE: Cakez

so we all agree that the reason alch and cakes were chainsaw defending each other/trying to start the wagon on dgb/trying to get the day to go on longer is because theyre the scumteam that didnt want to lose their strongman d1?

Yep.
VOTE: Cakez
Cakez is almost 100% scum because of meta and the TMI. Alch isn't 100% scum.

I have a soft guilty on Alch.

The fuck?

VOTE: Cakez

so we all agree that the reason alch and cakes were chainsaw defending each other/trying to start the wagon on dgb/trying to get the day to go on longer is because theyre the scumteam that didnt want to lose their strongman d1?

Yep.
VOTE: Cakez
Cakez is almost 100% scum because of meta and the TMI. Alch isn't 100% scum.

Huh?

Agreed.

[House]

I actually

don't

want Alch to claim today.
My guilty is very soft.

Roles are not tied to alignment.

You either have a guilty or you don't.

[House]

VOTE: Alchemist21

More confident in this flipping scum than Cakez, but neither can make it to Elo even if town or we automatically lose.

Why more Alch than Cakez? I agree on the order but you're way to dramatic.

There was an interaction that casts doubt on Cakez.

Not clearing, but meh.

And Cakez not claiming the fruit?

Giving him time to respond to 790.

[House]

T3 locktown

Considering it was the Strongman that died, I'm willing to go out on a limb and claim the wagon was pure.

That was their only real PR.

[House]

Up!

[House]

Although - I've been bus'ed hard as scum with the only PR myself, a few times.

I withdraw the +1 upon further consideration.

I don't see this playerlist neutering their scumteam by empowering town protectives.

I am sticking by my post.

[House]

i think me nm and house are locktown at least though

You forgot Titus.

No way in hell is she scum with that flip.

[House]

Chaos is the only one I would even humor as possible scum in Elo from the elimination wagon.

[House]

Salsa's page 12 is townie.

mindmeld

This gives me doubt on Cakez.

Scum doesn't claim mindmeld with scum.

Alch is the best elimination for today.

[House]

If there is any other protective, speak up now because there's no way this game has multiple protective roles.

[House]

UNVOTE:

Pending CC

[House]

Chaos is the only one I would even humor as possible scum in Elo from the elimination wagon.

Both Salsabil and Chaos are potential buddies. Both had early weak votes and weren’t around to unvote when the LGW wagon was building.

SF is town independent of the wagon.

Chaos isn't.

Nice attempt at widening the mislim pool, though.

[House]

VOTE: Alchemist21

[House]

Chaos townslipped.

[House]

Chaos townslipped.

Nevermind, misread the post.

[House]

im keeping my vote on alch because i think hes maf and because his flip will confirm chaos’s alignment

Chaos is dead regardless of whether we eliminate Alch unless he's scum, anyway.

[House]

UNVOTE: alch

/dislike

[House]

Alchemist fakeclaimed. Chaos outed & will die tonight. Last scum is either Cakez or DGB.

I think that sums things up.

[House]

UNVOTE:

That was interesting.

[House]

?-?

Now we have 2 quickhammers.

[House]

I love gambits.

[House]

VOTE: Alchemist21

[House]

VOTE: SirCakes

last scum here for sure. hasnt done any scumhunting beyond starting the dgb counterwagon to try to save the strongman, doesn't really give reads, and hopped on the alch wagon as a second thought without speculation as to who his last teammate could be. dont see how it could be anyone else

Nope.

It's MargotRosa.

She ended d1 voting Alch but her vote was nowhere to be seen on d2. Instead, she just said she *would* vote. Giving him every opportunity to save himself after riding his wagon hard on d1.

VOTE: MargotRosa

[House]

why would she bring alch's iso to attention in the first place tho

I have no clue what she's doing.

I caught that during the overnight ISO.

[House]

Look at what she's doing, now.

Trying her damnedest to put hard town back in the lim pool.

That's scum shit.

[House]

She hasn't wanted to be any kind of voice in this game until just now.

That's scum shit.

[House]

I think I should die today too
But let's not rush it

I'm not moving off Margot, so they'll have to kill you without me.

[House]

Look at what she's doing, now.

Trying her damnedest to put hard town back in the lim pool.

That's scum shit.

You are so full of it, my god.

I am Town. I'm not role claiming unless people really want to press me on it.

This push by House is some straw clutching bull. I'm very on the same track as other people in this thread, and have been basically of one mind with Titus since mid d1

That's why

you've been on every scum wag

... nevermind.

[House]

House, you have massively overplayed your hand. Cakez flips green and you are done

Now she's TMIing that Cakes is town and planning the next mislim.

[House]

VLA September 17th-20th

Let's all be friendly. MargotRosa sets an example.

UNVOTE: Titus crumbed confirmation.

VOTE: Cakez

[House]

Even a half-ass VCA shows I'm not scum, though.

I'm the one that started the Alch wagon on d2 after being on the d1 scum elim.

I gambited T3 back onto the wagon so I'd be available to quickhammer.

Like, pay attention to the game so you don't look stupid.

[House]

Cakez is flipping town, though.

I agree he can't reach ELO. But that's not his fault. It's because this town is too shallow.

[House]

tmi??????

Nope, just plain old psychic.

[House]

Cakez is flipping town, though.

I agree he can't reach ELO. But that's not his fault. It's because this town is too shallow.

so whos maf if not margot or cakez

I'm going to go with, someone who did NOT hard bus both buddies the first 2 days.

[House]

Cakez is flipping town, though.

I agree he can't reach ELO. But that's not his fault. It's because this town is too shallow.

so whos maf if not margot or cakez

I'm going to go with, someone who did NOT hard bus both buddies the first 2 days.

name

I'm stumped, and it will take time to figure out, which I don't have.

VLA SEP 17-20

I have to prepare for a trip and get some rest early tonight. I don't really care if I'm mislimmed in my absence. We have the a few to spare. Just don't spend them charging shadows.

[House]

chasing*

[House]

So, I think I'll end my time here with

VOTE: Salsabil

First on the d1 wagon, probably couldn't find an opportunity to jump off without attracting attention.

Not on the Alchemist 21 wagon. It was a fast day though, and I don't think she even posted.

Idk. I just think it's better than Cakez.

Do whatever.

[House]

VOTE: Cakez

[House]

I'm in your game, stealing all N_M's quickhammers.

[House]

I would say I hate to say I told you so, but that would be a lie.

Back to my default. Town has already decided to gamethrow, so do whatever.

[House]

house you have barely any progression on cakez at all why did you say he was flipping town

I've felt the kind of demoralization he was going through after being doomed by circumstances.

That wasn't demoralized scum. It's a different tone.

[House]

It's one miselimination. O.o

And bullheadeded players are going to forge ahead on their faulty assumptions despite being literally proven wrong yesterday.

Not the first time I've seen it happen. Hell, I'm guilty of it myself. It's an easy mindset to fall into, so I expect it.

[House]

It's one miselimination. O.o

And bullheadeded players are going to forge ahead on their faulty assumptions despite being literally proven wrong yesterday.

Not the first time I've seen it happen. Hell, I'm guilty of it myself. It's an easy mindset to fall into, so I expect it.

What should we do instead?

We should... lemme sleep on it. I figured I'd already be at E-2 by now based on yesterDay, so I didn't bother burning brainpower on this game as I figured it would be a waste of time and preferred to spend that time enjoying r/l happenings.

Off the top of my head, I wouldn't object to a DGB wagon, but preferably not hammered until I've had time to cogitate after my soak.