Newbie 2079 | Open House | Game Over!!!

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Thirsty!

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Welcome fellow newbies a the life of quick wits and deception that is mafia on MS. I will make life easier for you by telling you I am town, for the scumbutts among us, you shall be quickly purged from our ranks as I feel the force is strong among us.

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To not a* dammit so close to perfection.

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DTX is already locktown ^.^
VOTE: regrider

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Vote anyone for any reason, this phase is called RandomVotingStage which will eventually progress into people making reads on reactions and take us into the game. Behind every post is scum or town, can you tell the difference?

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You got it

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Good now, I say; if I knew what the weather was like, I would probably say it is good!

Anyways: VOTE: RH9

Greetingsssss! I've played mafia for several years, but I'm way more used to moderating rather than actually playing, so take my attempts at scumhunting with a grain of salt. Or two. I played the one game last year, which was plenty fun but kinda wore me out. Here's hoping it doesn't happen quite like that again

We got cool SEs, I dig))) I shall VOTE: CheekyTeeky, because it sounds a lot like cheeki breeki, and bandits are pretty suspicious, am I right?

There's plenty of room in my town basket, make yourselves at home ^.^

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Connordragon07
RegRider
RH9
camelCasedSnivy
Prism (SE)

2 scum in here. Hmm.

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this is NewD3 right? or something different?

Yep.

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DTX is already locktown ^.^
VOTE: regrider

What's DTX?

DaTacoX

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=NewD3

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VOTE: VOTE: Prism as it is RVS

Was going to townread this vote but the RVS justification brings it back to nai.

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I wonder if connordragon picked up their role PM.

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Oh they have, welcome Connor from Europe tell me why prism not voting might be scum indicative?

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VOTE: Camel

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What's bwing?

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Bandwagoning. When you jump on a vote because it already has some.

Oh, yeah I know what bandwagoning is lol just not the shorthand for it.

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(Quick sidenote post here)
I'm coming from an experience of mostly IRL mafia.

While there, I've found it very hard for myself to add anything meaningful to a conversation. No matter my alignment, I feel like everything I say is self-incriminating.
If someone has confidence tips for helping move the game forward without feeling like a fool I would love to know.

The more self-aware your posts come across the more likely you will be perceived as mafia. The main thing is to check that the reads coming in your way have logical intent behind them and have fun. So just say what you think without thinking about how you're perceived, you'll be suspected regardless but without people pushing each other there would be no content. You do you.

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(Quick sidenote post here)
I'm coming from an experience of mostly IRL mafia.

While there, I've found it very hard for myself to add anything meaningful to a conversation. No matter my alignment, I feel like everything I say is self-incriminating.
If someone has confidence tips for helping move the game forward without feeling like a fool I would love to know.

"I feel like everything I say is self-incriminating." same

Pro tip: if you highlight the part of the post you want before quoting it will quote just that part ^.^

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I have to say that I pretty much read everybody town so far. However, I'm not sure what makes camelCasedSnivy, CheekyTeeky, or DaTacoX, mafia. I do find it confusing why camelCasedSnivy read themselves as Mafia. I have to say that these reads might change later.

Never said DTX was mafia. Cheeky probs is mafia bc of their poe and their bw and also you really took my self suspicion seriously.

It is really hard for to tell if you're reacting strongly to pressure because you're not used to it or if you're hiding something red.

Why not question what I am doing or probe my thought process instead of just assigning scum intent to my actions?

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Lol fair enough. Well if it helps, I'll share a little. I'm playing transparently to help you guys get where I'm coming from but this is not how I usually play so don't use this game as meta or use meta for this game. That being said no reads are set in stone this early in the game. I exaggerated the strength of my read there and in my PoE to gauge reactions and apply pressure to scum if I had indeed correctly townread 3 other players.

DTX I read as town because I don't see why scum would just accept my admission that I am town, their tone I also find quite natural, not too slimey, not too aggro.

Good now, I say; if I knew what the weather was like, I would probably say it is good!

Anyways: VOTE: RH9

Greetingsssss! I've played mafia for several years, but I'm way more used to moderating rather than actually playing, so take my attempts at scumhunting with a grain of salt. Or two. I played the one game last year, which was plenty fun but kinda wore me out. Here's hoping it doesn't happen quite like that again

We got cool SEs, I dig))) I shall VOTE: CheekyTeeky, because it sounds a lot like cheeki breeki, and bandits are pretty suspicious, am I right?

There's plenty of room in my town basket, make yourselves at home ^.^

Flowtrap's entrance is so random that all reasons for this point to them being town.
RH9 is purely a toneread, it's possible I fell right into their pocket, but I like the playful tone. Scum tend to be serious or overly self-conscious. This is possibly the weakest townread because their experience could negate the toneread.

Now, with the bandwagoning, the more pressure you put on someone the more you can get some insight into their responses. Wagons forming rapidly in RVS are actually pretty standard here. As I said earlier, I'm not sure how to read your reaction to the extra pressure just yet.

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VOTE: RH9 for PR hunting.

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Camel it is a good play to always pretend you are a PR but not claim it to protect your fellow PRs. Claiming vanilla is very bad but more likely to come from new town than scum who would probably claim PR to bait out a counterclaim.

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Aight. Also why is it against the rules to fake claim as Town? Curious.

It's not. You can do that but in newbie games it's a bad idea because you might draw out another PR.

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VOTE: RH9 for PR hunting.

Why RH9 instead of CD07

I was on CD07 and they're the one who claimed Vanilla which again I doubt comes from scum.

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Oh maybe I confused myself lol. I was voting camel who claimed Vanilla.

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Oh dear.
UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Camel
Consider yourself specified

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So if im not misunderstood, you voted me when I said you might want to specify unvoting me. Interesting.

You misunderstood. I was voting RH9 there

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Why?

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Sorry fam been a bit low energy. I'll do a reread and see if I can figure out a readslist later today.

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UNVOTE:

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@prism can you talk about why you have RegRider so high in your reads?

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Yeah I'm not seeing how that gives you such a strong impression that regrider is town.

VOTE: Prism

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So either it's TMI or it's hiding a scum buddy in your townreads. I don't think there's any clear tone or post from regrider so far that anyone could read as strongly town.

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Town
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DaTacoX
CheekyTeeky
RegRider
flow trap
RH9
MargotRosa/Noksve
camelCasedSnivy
Connordragon07
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Scum

3rd place when much less content from reg than others just reads fake tbh.

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Sorry Camel I've lost my WIM in mafia and been busy irl but I'm back now.

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I townread you Camel so we're good

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Mine would be:
Town {DTX, Margot}
Town lean {flow, RH9, camel}
Scum lean {Regrider, Connor, Prism}

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I've read your explanation, not completely dismissing it but not quite satisfied that I'm wrong yet. Please don't be frustrated, I'm not tunneled on you so I'm sure I'll be able to see if I'm wrong as you interact with others.

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I kind of agree with DaTacoX's townread, but I'm not sure about Prism and RegRider. They both seem helpful and have somewhat good defences as to why they're not anti-Town.

There have to be 2 scum. Who do you think they are if not Prism and regrider?

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Mine would be:
Town {DTX, Margot}
Town lean {flow, RH9, camel}
Scum lean {Regrider, Connor, Prism}

Margot only made 5 posts, why do you Town read them?

Quality over quantity. I tend to assess what's in a post and think about the intent behind it.

So why would a scum Margot come in and take on a town Prism who is the most experienced player here when there was a more low key opportunity to get on board with me or camel. Let's say we end up eliminating Prism today and they flip town, what does that mean for a scum margot's chances to end game?

What's your read on them?

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I'll drop flow down a tier.
VOTE: regrider

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Alright I guess it's time to wagon up boys, girls and beautifuls.

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There seemed to be enough people suspecting regrider so let's go. If he flips town I'd be back on Prism like white on rice.

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I'd scum then obviously I'll take the glory ^.^

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Panicked for a second cuz I thought y'all just mislynched while I was gone lol.

Slip

(Just kidding)

I think it's a legit slip.

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VOTE: Connor

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VOTE: Regrider

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VOTE: Connor (E-2 for those wagon challenged among us )

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I'm here, what's shaking

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Reg probably better since they have nothing to say.

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Lol let's just end this.
VOTE: Regrider

Tbh reg was likely going to be a focus in later phases anyway so even if town I'm fine flipping this now.

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Well I'm currently on the side of a road with a flat tire and several appointments to make for tomorrow so it might be a few days until I can get back into the game

Lame! Hopefully everything works out OK.

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I feel better about Connor after relooking through their iso, that's all I've done so far lol.

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Anyway, my suspicion on flow, Connor and Cheeky are a bit higher and I trust Prism a little bit more now.

I kinda want to vote this again. Thinking RH9/Camel could be it but I'll need to stew on D1 a bit before I'm confident on pushing that for the team.

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By the way, if I really was Mafia, I wouldn't have targeted DaTacoX, for sure. Prism's, by the far, one of the most towny players, and their reads are probably the most accurate.

If Prism is clearly a town leader and their reads are accurate then, why is Prism still here?

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The way I see it, either scum is Flow Trap slot or it's Prism based on the NK.
If Flow Trap was scum then it makes sense to kill someone other than Prism who was gunning to eliminate them, with the concern that if they kill Prism then the NK might lead back to them (Flow trap).

If scum is Prism then obviously they can't NK themselves and so they kill the next towniest person.

The problem with Flow trap slot being Scum is that they are an SE and I believe SEs would kill the towniest person (being Prism) even if there's a chance it pointed back because the argument could be made that the kill would have come from any competent scum team.

There's also the possibility that the scumteam consists of two newer players and Prism is townreading them, which could tie back to RH9 using Prism's read accuracy as a soft clear for himself - ie Prism townread DTX correctly so obviously she's correct that I RH9 is also town, with the attempt to cast Prism as the leader to unwittingly eliminate town on scums behalf.

Interested in others thoughts on the NK (night kill)

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Not to undercut your current line of questioning, CheekyTeeky, but since you're here, could you clarify the following for me:

Panicked for a second cuz I thought y'all just mislynched while I was gone lol.

Slip

(Just kidding)

I think it's a legit slip.

I feel better about Connor after relooking through their iso, that's all I've done so far lol.

How did you go from beliving connordragon's statement was "a legit slip" to "feeling better" about him today? What exactly changed your mind? Why do you not believe that post is a slip anymore?

I wasn't very invested yesterday, had a relook today, saw a few comments on people thinking about Connor today and thought oh maybe they're the mislim intended today by scum. In terms of progression, mine never makes sense on the surface unless I'm scum because as scum I care about everything I do being unquestionable.
Tldr; I changed my mind + self meta.

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I think Night Kill Analysis is a rabbit hole of WIFOM most of the time and rarely leads to useful conclusions. You yourself have outlined three different possible scenarios for why DaTaco was the nightkill, I could easily contribute several more. How are you going to evaluate these scenarios and decide which is the most likely explanation?

I don't find such speculation to be helpful. Unless you can strongly suggest there is someone who would

not

kill DTX, then NKA is effectively useless.

This is aimed at the newbies so feel free to keep your ideas about it's usefulness to yourself.

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What reads do you find questionable? I think of the one I have on your slot is probably the most stereotypically Prism read in existence, for better or for worse, but I know I have given others.

I hate to explicitly highlight the idea of doc/JK protection but any NK analysis that does not account for it fails from the start. I won't pass judgement on the validity of NK analysis in general but I usually steer clear from it until lategame.

That's a valid point.

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The explanation is that I changed my mind.

Further obviously the people mentioning Connor today.

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If you want to sort me, you aren't going to do it by tunneling me with irritating questions which force me to defend myself. You're better off giving me space and assessing my intent overall otherwise we will end up 1v1ing all day and if both town will increase the chances of scum hiding in the shadows.

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By the way, if I really was Mafia, I wouldn't have targeted DaTacoX, for sure. Prism's, by the far, one of the most towny players, and their reads are probably the most accurate.

If Prism is clearly a town leader and their reads are accurate then, why is Prism still here?

The Mafia could want us to vote them off so that they can use their NK on somebody else like DaTacoX who is good at being convincing as well as being townread by a lot of players. So Mafia could be trying to get rid of the convincing towny players and then leave the players who are bound to get themselves eliminated for acting like Mafia (e.g. PR hunting). Mafia can also get the Town Leaders eliminated so that they don't need to waste their NK when Town can help them eliminate every other member of Town. I have to say that whoever the real Mafia team, they're probably really smart. Also, I now kind of townread Connordragon07 more.

I think I need to read that a little more because it doesn't follow your idea or make sense to me that scum would leave a towny accurate townsperson here in the hopes the rest of the town will vote them off.

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VOTE: Camel

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I still don't get how Prism called reg town so early, that's one point that's stil bothering me enough not to locktown them.

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You purported to have two townreads on Page 1. I had a townlean on a slot for trying to pursue a line of questioning he he thought had merit and for being persistent in it. Maybe it's not that hard to fake but I again don't see why this is such a struggle.

I guess because I'm very used to gut reading entrances and the reason you gave for it just didn't line up with the read.

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I think Connor is better then.
VOTE: Connor

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VOTE: Prism

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If RH9 is scum they're playing a really lame game.

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Tbh I haven't really read much since I last posted. Depending on how I go you may get more.

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Lol. OK I promise I will add something meaningful tomorrow I just lost all my WIM in mafia but I'm determined not to rep out of here so by George I will make this game as cheekylicious as it deserves to be. Right now it's bedtime though so... ^.^

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VOTE: Camel
I'm here going to reread the game now. Hammering is a scumclaim.

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I agree that a PoE of 5 is very agreesive but I don't think it means they are mafia.

I have to say that I pretty much read everybody town so far. However, I'm not sure what makes camelCasedSnivy, CheekyTeeky, or DaTacoX, mafia. I do find it confusing why camelCasedSnivy read themselves as Mafia. I have to say that these reads might change later.

Never said DTX was mafia. Cheeky probs is mafia bc of their poe and their bw and also you really took my self suspicion seriously.

This doesn't line up. You think my PoE is not scum indicative until I vote you where the PoE then suddenly becomes another reason to scumread me.

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VOTE: camelCasedSnivy for funsies and also they a bit sus
wanna see what people think of this

What did you gain from this in the end? I don't see anything in your ISO that proves it was to gain reads rather than manipulate people with wifom by self-voting.

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VOTE: RegRider

I'll agree with flow trap on this one.
And, once again as a side note... Pressuring someone doesn't work if you tell them that's what you are doing.

Just wanna point this out, "I'll agree with flow trap on this one" seems a bit suspicious to me because given RegRider gets eliminated and they flip Town, scum would blame flow trap in this situation for proposing the idea despite not following the other ones which could've resolved in a Mafia flip.



...or I'm thinking about this way too hard. Who knows

Gross shading in anticipation of a reg town flip.

What makes you two think RegRider isn't scummy?

I have a null read on Reg rn but a lot of ppl think they're scummy so was just curious.

btw my updated reads i think
- Town -
flow trap
Margort (idk how to spell)
DaTacoX
Connordragon07
CheekyTeeky
RH9
RegRider and Prism (based on other ppl)
camelCasedSnivy
- Mafia -

Same, no one has explained to me why RegRider is scummy.

Ok that's pretty stupid imo

To me that is not really alignment-indicative. But VOTE: RegRider just because the other reasons are good.

Progression sucks.

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Like how do you shade the same person you buy reasoning from to vote. Using others reasoning as justification to vote rather than just consolidating gives away a need to cover their behind since they know reg is flipping town.

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If you think there was scum on the RegRider wagon, why is your focus on RH9?

Tbh RH9 is acting a bit too much on his posts imo as well as stating the obvious (like being sad about losing 2 VTs)

RH9/camel not SvS.

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Is No Condemn just as viable as it is in Mafia.gg/ToS or is it more beneficial to random vote D1? If it will benefit town more then I will vote for Reg, even though I don't really think it's him.

Alright then, guess I'll VOTE: RegRider, not really sure it's them but I don't wanna be miscondemned so.

This is townier consolidating than camel.

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VOTE: RH9 for PR hunting.

Why RH9 instead of CD07

Could be Flow slot/RH9.

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VOTE: RegRider

171-175 feels too fluffy

VOTE: RegRider

171-175 feels too fluffy

That conversation happened days ago, why are you bringing it up now?

Why does it matter when I bring it up?

Hmm.

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Will finish reads list tonight. I just got to the bottom of page 5, for my own future reference. These are notes I made while reading through the thread.

CheekyTeeky:

I find RQS way scummier than RVS. Random votes actually get content generating. Random questions just boosts up the post count on the early pages and ends up stalling game progress more than it generates reads. But progressed quickly to RVS, so never mind.

DaTacoX:

Jumped in with nothing post.

Prism:

Also came in to post nothing. Had reservations about random voting, which would be normal for newbs, but weird out of the gate from an SE, especially to comment that they had no reads 10. Reads more like they’re trying to look busy to Town without actually doing anything.
A lot of over justification, and grasping at straws to FoS, but seems way more like they’re trying to get someone else to start a wagon so they don’t look suss by starting wagons on a bunch of Townies. 40
56 does not read like a Town post, and ISO thus far has been chock full of psots that do very little except encourage other players to start a vote on someone else. Thus far, they are my clearest scum read

RH9:

Seemed suspect of RVS, but is a newb slot, so that’s totally fair. Also, as a note, if you’re voting to create pressure, or to get a reaction, don’t say that you’re trying to get a reaction. By saying that, the other player will know that your heart isn’t in the vote, and will know there was no pressure to begin with. Wrt PR hunting, it’s hard to say. I couldn’t find in the setup info, but is the scum PT open during the day? If so, it could indicate a conversation they had had in that thread that RH9 is TMIing in the main chat.

Flow trap:

Find it amusing that they started aggressively questioning Prism because of their aggressive questioning. 50 and 105 are Townie on vibes

Connordragon07:

104 is twigging my spider senses a bit. I don’t like posts that are that large, but have very little to say when all is said and done. Certainly seem appreciative of the PR hunt

Camel:

Town on vibes. 62 is very sweet, and very newb Townie.

Rereading this entrance post I noticed that it's all shade >.> I think I was seduced by the Prism vote.
Connor/Margot not SvS.

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To me, that reads as Scum. I feel like Town would spend longer trying to adequately justify their serious votes

Funnily enough I find the opposite to be true. Scum tend to over justify their reads.

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Wait, what exactly did flow trap do, other then starting a bandwagon on RegRider, then voting Connordragon07, then after MargotRosa voted them, voted her? Did I miss anything? I'm worried that I missed something worse that they did. Wait, did flow trap vote CheekyTeeky, at one point?

The other vote they cast was what I imagine was an RVS on you at the top of the game. Easiest way to check is by clicking the big ISO letters next to a player's name on their posts in a game, and it will bring up every psot they've made in that game isolated, on one convenient page

Don't like Prism, but I don't like the push on RegRider more

VOTE: Flow

Margot/Prism
Margot/Flow (catboi)
Margot/RH9
All not SvS

+ former Margot/Connor and obv Margot/me not SvS means either Margot is scum with exactly camel or more likely Margot is not scum.

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I find that really amusing, since you saw how much effort I spend shutting players out of the game and weaponizing the pressure of deadlines as mafia, but fair enough. I'll review your start of Iceland later, but I imagine much has changed since then.

Not SvS with Catboi. (Flow) this is towny enough on it's own that I'm going to excuse myself from wading though Prisms dense ISO and lump them in my townbasket.

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I have to say that I pretty much read everybody town so far. However, I'm not sure what makes camelCasedSnivy, CheekyTeeky, or DaTacoX, mafia. I do find it confusing why camelCasedSnivy read themselves as Mafia. I have to say that these reads might change later.

Never said DTX was mafia. Cheeky probs is mafia bc of their poe and their bw and also you really took my self suspicion seriously.

I just thought that the way you read yourself made me think that you were a vanilla role. I thought that if you had an extremely important role, you would be reading yourself as 100% town or something, but then I could be wrong. I do apologise if I took your self suspicion too seriously.

I think RH9 is overplaying the newb card. Even if he's never played forum mafia before, any kind of mafia is all about being deceptive and finding deception. I don't think any sane person would think that because they are a PR they should act and claim to be incredibly townie when it's more natural to obscure the fact you're a PR with some well balanced scumminess.

And since this same style has continued into D2 it's just incredibly fake.

I also think that the PR hunt thing D1 implicated RH9 as a PR so the fact that DTX died over them is very suspicious. If I were scum I would've shot RH9 no question.

After all the ISO skims I'm willing to vote in {RH9, Catboi} camel is probably just tstbs.

VOTE: Catboi as the more dangerous of the two, though fine to switch to RH9 if people prefer that.

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Hmm.

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To be clear, I'm not scum, but I don't get how you're justifying your reads on me at all?

Simply, the majority pushing you at some point in the game makes it less likely you're scum imo. I can see why people are scumreading you, but the way you're being scumread doesn't look like bussing.

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Margot how hard were you scumreading Flow before cat repped in?

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So you're implying that we're a team. Well, she is like the only person who realised that my Day 1 activity was indicative of a PR and she's probably like one of the only Town on the RegRider wagon other than Prism and obviously DaTacoX.

"So you're implying that we're a team." in what way, cheeky thinks im scum and you gotta realize that not everyone who votes a Townie is scum.
That is a good point, however if you really are a Townie have you considered they mightve pointed it out to eliminate you?

So my plan as scum was to kill XDax who was townreading me thus not a threat and I knew RH9 was a PR who I could get limmed the next day phase...by claiming they're a PR instead of shooting them?

Come again?

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I also think that the PR hunt thing D1 implicated RH9 as a PR so the fact that DTX died over them is very suspicious. If I were scum I would've shot RH9 no question.

Can you elaborate on this? I hate making you speculate on another slot's role but you seemed to think it was suspicious that I lived before. I also don't remember DTX giving away they were vanilla, if they did so. RH9 I admittedly could not make heads nor tails of their PR speculating WIFOM.

I wasn't suspicious you lived, I was pointing out that RH9s logic that you were the towniest person and if he were scum he would have shot you meant he should have been MORE suspicious of you not townreading you harder. I'm probably not being clear enough between my own ideas and provoking thought in the newer players.

I never said DTX was Vanilla by why shoot a maybePR instead of obvPR? It was probably wrong of me to say something but I assumed it was stating the obvious. The point where I clicked and moved away from the PR hunt is pretty clear D1.

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And it was obvious in such a way that I saw it when I'm not hunting, so I'm close to certain scum saw it Which could mean a few different things given scum are more likely to know which setup we are in now meaning either RH9 is scum or we're in a setup that could interrupt an NK so scum went with the safer shot.

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RH9 could have been fishing a response where DTX reacted pretty strongly so the NK does make sense coming from him which proactively refutes the wifom argument he provided under minimal pressure day start saying he wouldn't have shot the NK.

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Catboi can be town I guess.
VOTE: RH9
I think I need to relook at Connor/camel.

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I guess Margot/camel is still possible but I'm a suckered for AtE around ability to post.

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Why is camel off the table again?

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VOTE: Conner just in case I can.

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Claim VT

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VOTE: Margot

[CheekyTeeky]

Wait...if camel is VT then Margot is the last PR and scum in VT claims so either camel or Prism...and I doubt Prism corners themselves here with mass claim.
VOTE: Camel

[CheekyTeeky]

Camel if you're town hopefully you stop with the self voting schtick it is really bad.

[CheekyTeeky]

Prism you should have waited for Margot and you know it.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not saying you lied I'm saying stop self voting it is extremely anti-town and you shouldn't even do it as scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

...right.

[CheekyTeeky]

RH9 what we're you told exactly in your results?

[CheekyTeeky]

Were*

[CheekyTeeky]

This is why we should have waited but it's OK we can still salvage this as long as there are no more votes please until we work our wtf is going on.

[CheekyTeeky]

Out* man my typing skills are on point.

[CheekyTeeky]

Not anything like "x didn't visit anyone"

[CheekyTeeky]

VCA suggests Margot is not Conners partner.

[CheekyTeeky]

Votecount 2.4

MargotRosa(3)

~ Connordragon07(3), Prism(40), RH9(28)

RH9(1)

~ MargotRosa(23)

catboi(1)

~ CheekyTeeky(33)


Not Voting (2): camelCasedSnivy(22), catboi(42)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to eliminate.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-10-07 18:20:16)

FLAVOR

Voting stalled out her on Margot then flipped to Connor. I don't see why Connor attempts to bus their partner there?

[CheekyTeeky]

And the Margot seems to have a guilty thing does look like a slip.
Hmm.

[CheekyTeeky]

RH9 you ballsy devil.

[CheekyTeeky]

No actually I don't think RH9 could pull this off as a newbie, but Margot could. Margot cast a lot of shade on Connor but never actually voted there. The crumb isn't very compelling either. I'm very impressed with the scumplay none-the-less.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ready to end the game when you are Prism.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yes all good points but on the other side of the coin why does RH9 clear me as town as scum and then not NK me? Clearly the clear on me threw you into a corner and now here we are with your very creative play at winning as scum. RH9 doesn't NK catboi either, you had much more motive to.

[CheekyTeeky]

We could do this the long drawn out way where we vote no elim today and get RH9 to cop you, leash you to stand down and if he is blocked or dies then that resolves everything. If someone else dies then I guess it's up to them who wins.

Do you want to do this the hard way?

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah it doesn't actually prove anything, I'm sorry if you're town but I find that unlikely at this stage.
VOTE: Margot

[CheekyTeeky]

Margot well done, your play last day phase was fantastic. I look forward to watching your progress, you have a lot of potential.

GG town.

[CheekyTeeky]

RH9 it's incredible scum decided to leave you alive the whole game. When you were asking about cop/doc you pretty much outed yourself. Usually you wouldn't have made it past N1 but I think that's what made the game so interesting on the last stretch.

[CheekyTeeky]

Usually I am a spam poster but I have been genuinely busy lately so I apologize for my super average performance. Prism is right, we got lucky with Connor and if camel hadn't thought timer had run out I probably wouldn't have hammered, though I like to think that Camel would have hammered instead.