Newbie 2079 | Open House | Game Over!!!

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Good now, I say; if I knew what the weather was like, I would probably say it is good!

Anyways: VOTE: RH9

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Good now, I say; if I knew what the weather was like, I would probably say it is good!

Anyways: VOTE: RH9

Was there anything you disliked in their opening posts?

Not yet in fact, but not towny either.

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Why, and what made you pick someone else?

I get a mild scumping from this

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While it turned out to be a dead-end, I think my intent behind asking was obvious. The scumdar's got a false positive, but you're unusually reticent in pursuing it.

No, I don't think it was the intent I think it could be scum trigger-happy questioning early to get into the game, if you don't remember I'm not keen on pushing this early in general

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Well, also I saw the same aggressive questioning at the start, but I also suppose town would want to start discussion so it's quite mild SP

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I'd say that's normal for early RSV; it's less speech based and more vote based than real time I'd say

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Glad this game is so entertaining

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Camel, wagons come and go a lot in forum, voting is quite different

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Useful info as in...? My reads? Trust me, you don't want those.

Give them anyways

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Find it kinda weird that Cheeky doesn't know what bandwagoning is when they're SE and it's a really common term but I'll let it slide.

Why is this phrased like this?

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Is it all right if I wait until the vote count is posted before I vote?

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If you want

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camelCasedSnivy: Mafia 100%

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In chat mafia, early bws are a pretty decent indicator of Mafia so sorry about that ig?

Yeah, when you have days to think instead of minutes, things don't pile on as fast

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Flowtrap's entrance is so random that all reasons for this point to them being town.

I'm just random in general as far as I'm aware

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I just thought that the way you read yourself made me think that you were a vanilla role. I thought that if you had an extremely important role, you would be reading yourself as 100% town or something, but then I could be wrong. I do apologise if I took your self suspicion too seriously.

I agree with your point on Snivy being a vanilla role, don't think I've ever seen a PR intentionally put suspicion on themselves before.

Can we not do the "PR hunt for the mafia" game please

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I agree with your point on Snivy being a vanilla role, don't think I've ever seen a PR intentionally put suspicion on themselves before.

It's my favorite PR strategy

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VOTE: RH9 for PR hunting.

Why RH9 instead of CD07

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And to be fair, I think that the reason why fakeclaiming as Town is disliked is because fakeclaiming as a PR like Cop could cause the real Cop to counterclaim and let Mafia perform their night kill on them.

That's why you have to make it clear that you like to fakeclaim at town beforehand, so it's not an autoCC

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Oh maybe I confused myself lol. I was voting camel who claimed Vanilla.

I suppose if you thought that then that still explains the question

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Has there ever been a player who played like a Mafia, but wasn't Mafia? I just want to confirm. That's all. I'm pretty sure that a player who was Town would not play like a Mafia.

Hi

(I'm trying not to this game, though)

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Also, who should I vote for? I feel like that I'm going to have to claim a role soon. Though, I feel like Mafia's going to win.

Whoever you want, I'd suggest not claiming until pressured to specifically

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If scum don't want to claim PR, then wouldn't claiming PR be towny :0

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Actually, is this TMI?

Nah, it's fine to talk about being new if you are new and this is a game about being new, I would think

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Ok, thanks. So neither Cop, Doctor, nor another PR should ever try to PR hunt? I think that I'll remember this for the future. Like, so I never get myself in this sort of situation again.

You can PR hunt, just don't say it

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VOTE: Camel
Consider yourself specified

Missed opportunity for " "

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I'm having a hard time deciding how to feel about Camel. I thought that the "when I get voted out" was preemptive and performative. I've seen a lot of mafia react that way over the years, and thus kept my vote.

I don't think it's unreasonable for them to expect that; real-time tends to have quick pile-ons

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I'll buy that its mostly a noob thing and not ___ being scum.

Yeah, I've done that a few times this game

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I uh, only remember playing with you once, and I don't think you were that accepting of being voted that time .-.

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So it's fair to say that you believe camel is a vanilla townie?
I'm still looking for your opinion on their gameplay as a whole.

No, I'm actually getting a mild ping in both directions as a whole

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Why?

Cause you were the only person with a single vote on them

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Yo flow trap with the good votes thats not me

I would totally vote you but not at 3. Yet anyways :3

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ANOTHER PAGETOP BY SNIVY (im posting too much arent i)

Suspect

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VOTE: camelCasedSnivy for funsies and also they a bit sus
wanna see what people think of this

Bad Camel

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Camel reminds me of a certain someone

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Uh, if I don't have anything important to contribute, should I stay quiet? Or should I try to do a scumread?

Make something up

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VOTE: camelCasedSnivy for funsies and also they a bit sus
wanna see what people think of this

Bad Camel

This whole ordeal just confuses me?

No self voting

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It feels to me like they agree on all points

Elaborate here, please

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Wait do mafia have daytalk in this semi?

I'm pretty sure yeah

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It feels to me like they agree on all points

Elaborate here, please

Ok, I looked back on it again a bit and my original statement was a little off. Mainly you just agreed on voting Cheeky. However, I guess the main point I am trying to make is that your giving camel the benefit of the doubt on most things, and a majority of your recent posts are geared towards helping him.

We're friends

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Ig its because I know flow trap is usally scummy and so do they abt me

I thought your only interaction was the one that flow trap barely remembers on mgg?

I have a bad memory

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Also I am notoriously suspicious

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Also I am notoriously suspicious

Guess I'll have to refer to the chart on your wiki page from now on.

I'm trying to be less suspicious this game since it's for the newbies and my suspiciousness usually comes from over the top confusing things

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VOTE: RegRider

171-175 feels too fluffy

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VOTE: RegRider

171-175 feels too fluffy

That conversation happened days ago, why are you bringing it up now?

Why does it matter when I bring it up?

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Or rather why does it matter when you said it?

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I've gone from the try my best mindset to "well im already fucked so may as well just mess around"

But... you aren't?

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Eh, seems like they were just asking a valid question to me, a two year old account in a newbie game is kinda strange.

But it isn't relevant, I'd say

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Have I not tripped the scumdar anymore, flow trap?

Nah, I think your reaction was towny enough

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Same, I'm trying to be open here; getting townpings from Camel, Prism, and Rosa

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I've gone from the try my best mindset to "well im already fucked so may as well just mess around"

But... you aren't?

I'm priority on everyone's scumlist but yours

Camel:
Town on vibes. 62 is very sweet, and very newb Townie.

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Since everyone unvoted you lol.

Ok well thats kewl

I'm not voting here today

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VOTE: RegRider

171-175 feels too fluffy

That conversation happened days ago, why are you bringing it up now?

Why does it matter when I bring it up?

Because it seems less genuine when you bring it up days after and not sooner. I get that you reread but this just seems like you are forcing yourself to find scum or find a mislim target or whatever.

Well, this seems like discred; I just isoed you since I didn't remember any of your posts and found it

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And you felt compelled to vote me when I asked RH9 about his experience? I don't understand why you thought that was fluffy, its an inactive game.

It was irrelevant to the game

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Find it kinda weird that Cheeky doesn't know what bandwagoning is when they're SE and it's a really common term but I'll let it slide.

Ah, you weren't the one who made the comment on letting something like that slide

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Just wanna point this out, "I'll agree with flow trap on this one" seems a bit suspicious to me because given RegRider gets eliminated and they flip Town, scum would blame flow trap in this situation for proposing the idea despite not following the other ones which could've resolved in a Mafia flip.

But that hasn't happened, so I don't know how it is suspicious yet :I

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VOTE: RegRider

171-175 feels too fluffy

The reason I initially agreed to this was that out of all the questions RegRider could have asked with their limited time, they chose to ask about RH9's site history.
Besides that, the only other thing they've done so far this game was put fake pressure on Cheeky.

It is kind of strange that she still hasn't made that list though?

Actually, yeah. I believe they only have one vote so VOTE: CheekyTeeky to drive them to out their reads.

Either that or they forgot about the game LOL

Can you name something suspicious about them?

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And you felt compelled to vote me when I asked RH9 about his experience? I don't understand why you thought that was fluffy, its an inactive game.

It was irrelevant to the game

How was it irrelevant? If it turns out that RH9 has 2 years worth of experience, then PR hunting is super scummy.

If they had 2 years of experience they wouldn't be PR hunting...

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Question for y’all out there
When is it appropriate to make a reads list and when is it appropriate to demand a reads list?

Whenever and I'd say when everyone has made around at least 20 posts

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Why is everyone against RegRider and Prism?

I think I said I TR Prism, if I didn't I did now :3

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Why is everyone against RegRider and Prism?

I think I said I TR Prism, if I didn't I did now :3

...My interpretation of this is just an outright scum claim.

VOTE: flow trap

Maybe I'll change my mind in the morning, but there's eagerness to take another shot at something and then there's blowing past every warning sign right after the first accident.

Don't get me wrong, there are clear differences between this game and Iceland, but they're all stylistic and trivial to fake as scum, and I think you're smart enough to realize that.

Yeah, Idk what this means

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It means I don't buy how easy that townread was to get from you.

Ah, I see, I see

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"Votes are baseless" is just such a flummoxing critique of someone who hadn't voted, especially for Margot whose entire initial critique was about my abstention from voting

I suppose you're right, this does outweigh my reason for TRing them I think

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I don't understand how people can TR someone based on like 4 posts. Like your reads aren't that good, guaranteed.

I mean TR can be from strong town to null/town, right?

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And to be fair, the latest developments really makes me doubt that Prism is Mafia at all.

Ditto, but they're still in low area

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I was just on there for pressure, but now that I've said that

VOTE: Connordragon07

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I was just on there for pressure, but now that I've said that

VOTE: Connordragon07

More like stayed on there

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Don't like Prism, but I don't like the push on RegRider more

VOTE: Flow

And I don't like the way you did this push VOTE: MargotRosa

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Can someone please explain the RegRider wagon to me please?

Apparently they think RegRider is mafia because they asked why RH9, a player who had their account for two years, was playing in the newbie queue. Just a genuine question and he's getting voted for it.

Ok that's pretty stupid imo

What lead up to it makes it sound appeal-y

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Nice amount of posts you got there flow

Why thank you, I will pass you eventually

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2. Suspicious of flow for looking into and questioning his earlier messages. (Never actually answered the question)

I believe they did answer it

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I switched off

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Panicked for a second cuz I thought y'all just mislynched while I was gone lol.

Slip

(Just kidding)

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Panicked for a second cuz I thought y'all just mislynched while I was gone lol.

Slip

(Just kidding)

I think it's a legit slip.

Hm? I thought it was an exaggeration

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That's a little much for someone you just had as a neutral read?

Oh, interesting

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Ok, I'll UNVOTE: RegRider. The reason why I found DaTacoX convincing was the same reason why I found MargotRosa convincing. Their reasoning just seemed to make so much sense.

I don't tend to go off of other people's words unless I have none of my own because it's really easy to trick someone like you into voting someone else.

For example, most players see me as town yet I can incriminate myself with the "when I get voted out" as a scummy line, as well as accusing Cheeky of bandwagoning even though it was only the third vote, suddenly changing my opinion on Cheeky's POE for no apparent reason and thinking too hard about certain things like a scumcase against DTX.

Probably would sound convincing to you.

Alright, I'm convinced

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My flow trap read is based off of my prior experience with them in Newbie 2051: Iceland. It is difficult to explain to others except that I don't think they townread me so easily.

I also am puzzled at that flow trap placement because that read on me from flow trap is deeply troubling from a meta perspective. Flow trap's last game with me they watched me control an entire game start to finish as scum, and turn myself into a UTR the second I felt like being one.

There's being eager to try again but townreading me with this little content is really out there.

I mean, you acted quite different

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My flow trap read is based off of my prior experience with them in Newbie 2051: Iceland. It is difficult to explain to others except that I don't think they townread me so easily.

I also am puzzled at that flow trap placement because that read on me from flow trap is deeply troubling from a meta perspective. Flow trap's last game with me they watched me control an entire game start to finish as scum, and turn myself into a UTR the second I felt like being one.

There's being eager to try again but townreading me with this little content is really out there.

I mean, you acted quite different

I addressed this in post 356. If this read is legitimate, you are fortunate that it will go unpunished.

Sorry, I was wondering what you meant by that