Slaughter Hour: Grand Debut | Deliberation Room Blue

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm glad I was basically right about dunn
his scumplay recently has felt extremely one-dimensional ngl
I also think I'm borderline obvtown based on how he pushed against me

I don't feel like that event really helped to bring toog into the light like I'd hoped it might
the two of them felt very terse so it very well could have been S/S

[Gamma Emerald]

unwnd's attitude seems to have perked up based on his posting in here tho, which is prolly a good sign for him

[Gamma Emerald]

I notice the teams are based on who was on/off the toog wagon for the third event
anyway, my ranking of the pink team in order from most willing to nominate to least rn is (toog, ulyana, dwlee, infinity, skitter, taly) though there's a massive gap between toog and everyone else

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like if anyone legitimately supecting infinity would give thoughts on my wall I posted earlier

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like another thing about Infinity is that she's so willing to be convinced

I remember we got into a squabble and she went 'uh yeah I guess that's true' basically. Just very much a people pleaser but I don't know if I fully trust my read

Would like feedback

pretty sure that's just how she is

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13031324

i hate this from infinity lol

why?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm pretty sure tweetie wouldn't just make this the epic blue town group and all the scum are over there

I find Gypyx's posting to be very

Something

Need to find a word for it

I already commented that the divide seems based on the voting status from the last event, our group is all the remaining toog voters

[Gamma Emerald]

dwlee was asking for votes on toog so there would be a hammer because they wanted the phase to be over

i obliged because i knew we could get dunn in the duel and he was the far far far far far stronger scumread

ya fair but like, only late in the round, and he wasn't a strong pusher of dunn for the whole of Event 3

actually he strongly advertised for Infinity's flip, in a duel with dunn though, so you were kinda right mb

does mb mean maybe here, or something else? I've also seen pooky use that abbreviation

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer you don't do that?

You're giving me shades of TENET lol

I have not been getting those vibes but I think gypyx was on the forwards side and I was mostly focused on the inverted side
can you describe his play in that game for me?

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like another thing about Infinity is that she's so willing to be convinced

I remember we got into a squabble and she went 'uh yeah I guess that's true' basically. Just very much a people pleaser but I don't know if I fully trust my read

Would like feedback

pretty sure that's just how she is

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13031324

i hate this from infinity lol

why?

something of the feel of early game distancing

like this was the dunn vote in question: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13031266

and she says that's suspect? it's such a weird thing

eh it was still technically RVS I think?

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't feel like gypyx was coasting upon his replace in, what posts do you feel like most exemplify what you're seeing?

[Gamma Emerald]

cakez is going to be insufferable if he had multiple correct reads that i was shielding

Better that he is and he's town

I don't really personally care about pelts

It's all relative to me

yup, dead scum is dead scum, though it is fun to hit several of them squarely with solid scumreads
I dunno how but I feel like there've been multiple games in recent history where my reads have been basically top-class (Radio Buzz, Dead Silence 3, Gensokyo technically because while I didn't always push scum I helped drive people to eliminate scum on days 1 and 2). I don't know what the magic formula is and tbh I don't care to try and find out because I think it's best if I just learn my strengths naturally. My biggest issue is that despite working to curb the habit, I still end up doing the thing called out in WSB where I end up hard TRing scum and blocking elims on them, it's not an all-the-time thing but I've become very keenly aware of it since your hydra made that comment

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

"Fateful Duel"

Event Rules

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Decision 3.0.FINAL

Toogeloo [8!]:

Gypyx, Ydrasse, unwnd, SirCakez, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, petapan, Saber

Dunnstral [3!]:

Taly, Dwlee99, Infinity 324

unwnd [1]:

skitter30

Not Voting [2]:

ulyana, Toogeloo

With 14 contestants remaining, it took 8 votes to nominate the first duelist. A second duelist has also been nominated.

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Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Event #4

"SPLIT JUDGEMENT"

Starring..

petapan

,

Team Blue

Ydrasse

,

Team Blue

Saber

,

Team Blue

SirCakez

,

Team Blue

Gypyx

,

Team Blue

unwnd

,

Team Blue

and

Gamma Emerald

,

Team Blue

ulyana

,

Team Pink

skitter30

,

Team Pink

Infinity 324

,

Team Pink

Toogeloo

,

Team Pink

Dwlee99

,

Team Pink

and

Taly

,

Team Pink

y'all, idg why we're trying to guess at alignment distributions when there's a clear connection here I'm pretty sure

[Gamma Emerald]

gypyx I've never seen you effort this much as either alignment what's up

This post bothers me

Peta how are you quoting shit when the thread is locked

Computer illiterate over here

i personally click the PM button, it works even with locked thread

yeah this
that's how you get the quotes without post numbers (or by quoting from the preview window as well I think)

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless all the scum piled on Toog, that seems obvious?
Maybe I'm mistaking correlation for causation but it seems plain to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

epic

dunn was scum when he didn’t spin the barrel and started larping as the guy from princess diaries lol

yassss queen love that you saw the Vizzini vibes too

[Gamma Emerald]

there’s a certain

way she questions things that i think it’s like... she cares about what happens i feel like and not in a scum anxiety way but trying to solve even if the route of questioning can be a bit not helpful at times

yah this makes sense, her questioning does kinda come off as strong Socratic method thinking

i mean, we could probably discuss ulnaya once all reunited right? Having half the game missing isn't really helping, especially when one of those guys is the accused party

yeah this factored into a lot of my choice of who not to execute in the second event, there were several slots that seemed suspicious but I couldn't effectively press my reads while I was the only one able to talk

[Gamma Emerald]

nvm she's scummy

what's wrong with that string of posts
while I don't feel like she should have been all "grrr you're bad for trying to shift momentum" that kinda feel like a town concern, plus like, the optics just seem generally jank to the point I don't think she sticks her neck out there as scum
also if you think ulyana is scum what do you make of her FoSing infinity for (I think unintentionally) shifting the secondary-wagon momentum?

[Gamma Emerald]

also i don't get why we should have any consideration for what the other side will think about our nomination, just vote who you think is scum!!!!!!!! fuck!!!!!!!!!

yeahhh idk how I feel about that from gypyx

i just had an awful thought


we're playing tenet but can't even read the other thread and have to vote on them and not each other



i hate it here now

how is this like tenet exactly

[Gamma Emerald]

i think toog voting on dunn day 1 is at least okay


even though as mafia i'd absolutely want a teammate voted into the chair. don't get the sense that was the strategy here

my theory is scum didn't want the chair and pooky dying when his idea from way early on lined up with my more recent theory backs that imo
I'd expect 2-3 scum on my wagon given that, obviously I don't think they'd all wagon me because it always better to have a "good cop" rather than have the entire scum team play "bad cop"

[Gamma Emerald]

mostly i'm just not sure there's much in the way of good faith sorting from ulyana

eh, bad faith isn't exactly scum indicative I think, you can do things in bad faith as town, the sort of loaded questioning I thought ydrasse was accusing unwnd of before is an example of one such thing

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I thought the duel was just gonna be a Gladiation not what we got
Idk what y'all were expecting

A gun was mentioned in the flavor scene at the beginning of Event 3
like, hello? Are you paying attention to things at all, bro?

[Gamma Emerald]

Which I mean I guess this was Russian roulette but with more steps

I'd post the Rick and Morty meme but I'm lazy rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Part of my ulyana feelings are based in effort justification
I worked pretty closely with her to try and get a sense of her game, and I liked what I saw. I don't wanna go back on that hard work, even if she does seem suspicious on some level.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm saying I acknowledge that she's scummy-looking but I don't wanna go there when there's other options I rate less likely to be town and I also feel like from a certain point of view her play makes sense

[Gamma Emerald]

can you link to that stuff

the stuff I liked, the work I put in the sort her, or both?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm gonna do this in chunks
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

@ulyana

: I feel like the questioning you've been doing doesn't reflect so well in light of what the throne has been revealed to do. It feels like you've been trying to parse out feelings from people to determine who'd be a good choice for the chair. Can you explain your motives a bit?

@Saber

: I get how you thought my play was erratic in a way that felt tactical, but I can probably point to a few games where I've made sharp turns at critical moments as town. What I think I'm most interested in is your reads in general, because aside from your reads on me and Galron, those don't feel exactly clear rn. I've at least sussed out from your ISO that you TR Taly and ulyana.

@Dunnstral

: can you talk about why you've responded to certain things that you did and when you did so? I think that's the greatest bother for me about you currently.

@peta

: Let's take this from the top. I'm going to try to be more rational about being questioned. Do you still want answers to 359? Are there any other posts of yours you feel I've overlooked?

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

@ulyana

: I feel like the questioning you've been doing doesn't reflect so well in light of what the throne has been revealed to do. It feels like you've been trying to parse out feelings from people to determine who'd be a good choice for the chair. Can you explain your motives a bit?

@Saber

: I get how you thought my play was erratic in a way that felt tactical, but I can probably point to a few games where I've made sharp turns at critical moments as town. What I think I'm most interested in is your reads in general, because aside from your reads on me and Galron, those don't feel exactly clear rn. I've at least sussed out from your ISO that you TR Taly and ulyana.

@Dunnstral

: can you talk about why you've responded to certain things that you did and when you did so? I think that's the greatest bother for me about you currently.

@peta

: Let's take this from the top. I'm going to try to be more rational about being questioned. Do you still want answers to 359? Are there any other posts of yours you feel I've overlooked?

?? my motives are to find the baddies talking about something the baddies possibly informed about a good way to possibly identify like ……

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

@ulyana

: I feel like the questioning you've been doing doesn't reflect so well in light of what the throne has been revealed to do. It feels like you've been trying to parse out feelings from people to determine who'd be a good choice for the chair. Can you explain your motives a bit?

@Saber

: I get how you thought my play was erratic in a way that felt tactical, but I can probably point to a few games where I've made sharp turns at critical moments as town. What I think I'm most interested in is your reads in general, because aside from your reads on me and Galron, those don't feel exactly clear rn. I've at least sussed out from your ISO that you TR Taly and ulyana.

@Dunnstral

: can you talk about why you've responded to certain things that you did and when you did so? I think that's the greatest bother for me about you currently.

@peta

: Let's take this from the top. I'm going to try to be more rational about being questioned. Do you still want answers to 359? Are there any other posts of yours you feel I've overlooked?

?? my motives are to find the baddies talking about something the baddies possibly informed about a good way to possibly identify like ……

so your intent was to see who took something in a wrong direction that suggested extra knowledge? That feels reasonable if my reading is right

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

@ulyana

: I feel like the questioning you've been doing doesn't reflect so well in light of what the throne has been revealed to do. It feels like you've been trying to parse out feelings from people to determine who'd be a good choice for the chair. Can you explain your motives a bit?

@Saber

: I get how you thought my play was erratic in a way that felt tactical, but I can probably point to a few games where I've made sharp turns at critical moments as town. What I think I'm most interested in is your reads in general, because aside from your reads on me and Galron, those don't feel exactly clear rn. I've at least sussed out from your ISO that you TR Taly and ulyana.

@Dunnstral

: can you talk about why you've responded to certain things that you did and when you did so? I think that's the greatest bother for me about you currently.

@peta

: Let's take this from the top. I'm going to try to be more rational about being questioned. Do you still want answers to 359? Are there any other posts of yours you feel I've overlooked?

?? my motives are to find the baddies talking about something the baddies possibly informed about a good way to possibly identify like ……

so your intent was to see who took something in a wrong direction that suggested extra knowledge? That feels reasonable if my reading is right

where did you think my thoughts with regards to prism pooky taly came from ???

I was perturbed by how ulyana kinda felt too in the loop, and when I questioned it her thought process felt like it tracked pretty well

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

my thinking the entire time has been scum knew it was a kingmaker vote, with strong belief they also knew about the vote to execute or spare the executioner afterwards. I don't believe they knew about the reward for sparing a town executioner, but I do think they know what the reward is now.

so you thought this and didn’t think OH!!!!!! when they killed pooky????

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

my thinking the entire time has been scum knew it was a kingmaker vote, with strong belief they also knew about the vote to execute or spare the executioner afterwards. I don't believe they knew about the reward for sparing a town executioner, but I do think they know what the reward is now.

so you thought this and didn’t think OH!!!!!! when they killed pooky????

I don't think they had sabo info for the second event for the first event, I think each sabo only applies to what's going on at the time
the first event sabo was probably some way to deny someone the chair, whether it be by killing them or just veto'ing the vote.

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

I don't think they had sabo info for the second event for the first event, I think each sabo only applies to what's going on at the time
the first event sabo was probably some way to deny someone the chair, whether it be by killing them or just veto'ing the vote.

right but you said you think the mafia knew it was a kingmaker yes? and then when pooky was killed, this would be obvious explanation to you, yes? because pooky speculated at length about exactly this? but then this did not factor into any of your further thought with regards to who to choose???

I liked how she kinda tried to guide my "NKA" here, I don't feel like there's a vibe of someone who's leaking the real kill motive

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

I think killing someone for having an accurate guess as to one event would be premature. And like, Pooky only guessed at the kingmaker, not the "mercy or genocide" (I'm calling it that because honestly that feels more right than "execute or spare") vote afterward.

??? you think scum!pooky would have possibly accurately guessed the event in that situation? like you did not think of that as clearing when thinking about who to vote before pooky was killed?

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

I think maybe we should give the throne to someone who

doesn't

want it

because scumbags know if this thing is good or not.

if it's good, scumbags will want it.

if it's bad, scumbags won't want it.

So if we give it to someone who wants it, it's more likely we give it to a scumbag if it's good, and a non-scumbag if it's bad.

I think maybe we should give the throne to someone who

doesn't

want it

because scumbags know if this thing is good or not.

if it's good, scumbags will want it.

if it's bad, scumbags won't want it.

So if we give it to someone who wants it, it's more likely we give it to a scumbag if it's good, and a non-scumbag if it's bad.

Yeah it seems like Pooky is on my wavelength that I expressed in response to 126 about how scum would’ve approached this.

Also I think I can pinpoint the page this post was on as where everything went to shit for me.

Actually, I did post this, ulyana may have a point that between his idea about kingmaker being right and his thoughts lining up with mine, that's what made him scum's target.

these go with the last bit

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse, Sircakez
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Petapan
Could do with a touching-up: Dunnstral, Dwlee, Ulyana
Remove them from the premises: Saber, Galron, Toogeloo

I think I’m sitting somewhere around here?
FYI I kinda felt like Saber’s response to my question about the progression on me felt a little sus

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

I'd drop Peta, Ydra, and Dunn all down a tier.

so you both think... sircakez is definitely town here?

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

We won't know the benefit.

Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse, Sircakez
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Petapan
Could do with a touching-up: Dunnstral, Dwlee, Ulyana
Remove them from the premises: Saber, Galron, Toogeloo

I think I’m sitting somewhere around here?
FYI I kinda felt like Saber’s response to my question about the progression on me felt a little sus

I'd drop

Peta, Ydra, and Dunn

all down a tier.

idk about peta and Dunn, but Ydra I definitely feel like isn’t showing the same fatigue as she had in PYP, so unless between games she got a second wind, I don’t think she’s scum here

I'd drop Peta, Ydra, and Dunn all down a tier.

so you both think... sircakez is definitely town here?

Yeah pretty much
I feel like I’m pretty good at tone reading Cakez, as I’ve said before.

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Yeah pretty much
I feel like I’m pretty good at tone reading Cakez, as I’ve said before.

okay how do you feel about taly noting other disagreements with your list but ignoring that one even though taly has mentioned multiple times cakez being suspicious/in poe?

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Yeah pretty much
I feel like I’m pretty good at tone reading Cakez, as I’ve said before.

okay how do you feel about taly noting other disagreements with your list but ignoring that one even though taly has mentioned multiple times cakez being suspicious/in poe?

It just reads as he considered those the most egregious reads in my list. I can deem a read list acceptable while having nitpicks with it.

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

It just reads as he considered those the most egregious reads in my list. I can deem a read list acceptable while having nitpicks with it.

so you think dunn peta and ydra should be one tier lower would be more egregious to taly than 'we should trust until the ends of the earth'-ing someone taly has previously expressed heavy suspicion of?

ngl this interaction I feel like doesn't vibe that well assuming taly and cakez are town?

[Gamma Emerald]

Peta, I’m not really inclined to go back on a TR here when every time you sus one of them it’s the same shit of quoting posts out of context, saying they look bad, and giving nothing else to really work with imo.
Maybe you should give this song a listen.

[Gamma Emerald]

We're not nominating Taly, infinity, or skitter. I'm hard veto'ing those at this point.
I'm tired of yielding on reads I feel like are on point. I feel like this game I've been pretty decent, since I suspected Dunn pretty early on. Cephrir was a misfire but I think that's because I didn't understand how to read him yet.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Toogeloo
I could also do Ulyana but this is where I feel like scum most likely is in that group.

[Gamma Emerald]

Team solving is for the weak. I fare much better when I just aim to peg all the scum in a row, I’d say. All your attempts to find Dunn partners has done is lead you suspect slots I feel should never be eliminated.

[Gamma Emerald]

In Radio Buzz I was only able to get 2/3 into my definitive SRs on D1 because I’d felt like DGB made more sense as scum with House/Roden rather than Cephrir.
In Gensokyo, I ended up hyper-focusing on Norwegianboyee’s bad interactions with the scum rather than my bad vibes from Sanae in the endgame, resulting in a loss.
It’s basically folly to ever assume a team has any sort of real plan they’re all acting on. I even fielded this exact same foolish thought from scum!Roden in LN 235 the same way I’m fielding it here and now: by refusing to stoop to that level.
I mean, you yourself should know how wild team interactions can get after how NK15 acted in FGO 2.

[Gamma Emerald]

;-;

[Gamma Emerald]

I was glad he seemed to find his footing and now he’s suddenly gone
Hopefully he’s feeling alright now, if that was by choice

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like my townblock this game is solid, same as I felt in Radio Buzz. In that game I had all 3 scum in my bottom 5 after I factored out all of my TRs. When I tried to teamsolve from there, I ended up with a 2/3 solve. That’s part of why I’m like “fuck associatives”, because that’s a big factor in why I got led astray from having the right final read.
Plus, I think it’s better to wait to associative hunt until we get another red flip. In LN 235, I ended up with a 3 person PoE with both of the remaining scum in it when I reread scum ISOs after the second scum flipped. One scum flip is not enough data IMO.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

She’s like, the person I know best on this site. I can’t quantify my read, I just have a feeling that I’m right.

[Gamma Emerald]

yissss
idr if I've had a completed game with gammagooey, I'm real hype ngl
also, my fetters are finally undone, so I can finally talk about this. I feel like the way unwnd's replace in kinda got treated was somewhat similar to what happened when Titus replaced in for Toogeloo in Isekai UPick. In both scenarios it seemed like there was a certain refusal to re-consider the slot's position, and the player themselves wasn't really helping either. As such I'm probably adding Gammagooey to the [True Townblock]

[Gamma Emerald]

Want it more
It’s like a measure of how much you care about the game

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm at page 50, kinda confused by the switching at this point from Gamma Emerald to my predecessor - there was a mini-wagon on Dunn that seemed like it got completely derailed by skitter posting like 15 times in a row about Galrond? I wish I could ask her what she thought of Dunn at the time, she asked Gamma Emerald why he was voting Dunn over Ceph but like Dunn doesn't feel like he did anything town-worthy at that point in the game yet

this is something I wasn't entirely conscious of, can you post some quotes?

also, wrt Infinity, I'm kinda pulling the same card I used to pull when reading MariaR. That is, we are so familiar with each other that we can read each other based on how the other reads us, or at least I can read infinity based on how she reads me. Her progression on me makes perfect sense as town, and the best-fit agenda I can see for if she were scum is trying to pocket me, in which case her concern about TRing me for things scum!me can do feels out of place, and the Prism/Gypyx progression seems a bit wacky for that too. It took her quite some time after shifting back to TRing me to go after Gypyx. While I don't think the Gypyx push is entirely well-founded I think it's probably a towntell how she came to it. Town are generally more likely to have that sort of natural "I let this go and still think there's something here, I'm gonna pick it up again" attitude.

[Gamma Emerald]

p sure that's a joke from taly jsyk
also D1 ends at page 70 so that's prolly a solid stopping point

[Gamma Emerald]

okay so I read those pages, I don't feel like skitter entirely meant to distract from dunn, it feels more like she just had many thoughts to share
also,
Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Also I feel like Dunnstral being like this tends to be a scumtell
He also scumtold by reacting to my Ulyana push way too fast

it took forever and a week for the game to finish but a big point to my dunn read was his play here felt like how he played D2 in isekai upick, basically textbook frozen scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel more passionate about who I DON'T want dead which is kinda a double-edged sword for me

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I'm willing to fold on skitter before I fold on infinity
I also just said I think the gypyx progression, while weird, doesn't have a straightforward scum agenda you can to it imo

[Gamma Emerald]

the scum agenda is trying to push someone who is town and misreading my questioning of

him

as being antagonistic in nature, hoping i'd push

him

I'm assuming the bolded pronouns refer to gypyx

[Gamma Emerald]

...I'm thinking about something

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Ulyana
I still feel like Toog would be the BEST nomination but I’m working with what I’ve got.
I really hope this is just a straight-up gladiator match because if one of my strongest TRs dies to fuckery after you FOOLS voted her into the hot seat, there will be no room to hide. I’m basically just hoping the other side actually has the ability to pick someone sensible, I feel like the ACTUAL consensus here is on Ulyana but somehow Infinity is at N-1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Looking at ISOs I don’t trust the other side to make an acceptable choice on this end, so I’m sticking to my guns. Get off Infinity, NOW. I am invoking Burden of Proficiency on this one. My recent performance has been good enough IMO that I think I’ve earned this.

[Gamma Emerald]

also means she rated toog + dunn the same on play as scumleans which, uh, hm

where is this

[Gamma Emerald]

i don’t think that infinity is usually that far off

eh it's old af but I did find a game where she was consistently off the mark
and I think this obsession over "WHO HAS THE WORST INTERACTIONS WITH THE FLIPPED SCUM?" is honestly starting to become a smokescreen for actual scum. I don't think Dunn's entire team was so inept as to tie themselves to their buddy like that (yes this is a self-burn for Panic Room)

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=68495
reading over this game again, Infinity can absolutely have a bad go of it as town
she hit upon the scumteam once and only as a passing mention as barely possible, and consistently pushed both the T/T pairs
So like, I don't view what she's done this game as anywhere close to damning

[Gamma Emerald]

saber/cakez/peta should be enough for voting in ulyana
some of you "prefer" infinity but I think it'd be better to actually give her a chance to talk first. That's why Toog is my explicit preference, he's the only one in that group where I feel like prolonged questioning wouldn't be useful, he's clearly demonstrated a give-no-fucks attitude towards this game

[Gamma Emerald]

because no one else is voting Toog while cakez is currently on ulyana

[Gamma Emerald]

i have zero desire to go back to the well on toog atm

why is this

[Gamma Emerald]

because atp I'm extremely fucking worried you're trying to deflect from actual scum here by throwing shade everywhere else

[Gamma Emerald]

is that @ me or peta
also if you hammer infinity into the event you're going to be first on my shit list
VOTE: Toogeloo
@gypyx I feel like, if Infinity is given a chance to turn things around she can do so. And while it would be nice if I had a cop inno on infinity, I would have already spat it out if that were a thing. I'm just really fucking confident in my read.

[Gamma Emerald]

theoretically if your world is correct there are 2 scum in here anyway. but meh

what world
I've not outed a teamsolve I believe?

[Gamma Emerald]

just felt like a lazy vote rather than actually trying to look for connections off the flip

when it feels like you've managed to sus every other slot that isn't toog off of dunn interactions, I think this is a massive load of shit

[Gamma Emerald]

NEO drive booting...

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

{taly, gamma}
{ydrasse, ulyana}

{peta, skitt, cakez}
{toog, dunn}

{saber, gypyx, dwlee, unwnd}

based on how things went in the true love game I linked, I would not be surprised if all the scum were in the red names

[Gamma Emerald]

you fuckers make me sick

[Gamma Emerald]

MY LEAD IS TO LEAVE INFINITY BE. IF YOU FUCKED THAT UP ONLY TO LISTEN TO ME AFTER BULLDOZING MY CONFIDENT TR, THERE WILL BE NO PEACE FOR YOU WHILE YOU STILL LIVE IN THIS GAME

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma sometimes you don't get what you want

if i'm dead wrong here i'll agree to shut up and follow your lead

my last post was at this specifically, because it comes off as such a slap to the face
like "yeah I'll only listen to you AFTER I go against your very clear wishes to not touch this one person you have a fuck-ton of experience with"

[Gamma Emerald]

her part about thinking I was doing scum!me things that she initially thought were towny didn't *feel* fake, though

[Gamma Emerald]

no one suggested pseudo-voting
I was gonna go radio silent but I might as well gab with gooey since he's one of the folks I don't feel pissy with rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Shiki is Ulyana, yes

[Gamma Emerald]

By my own judgment skitter seems like town but the sacred texts tell a different story