Slaughter Hour: Grand Debut | Deliberation Room Blue

[unwnd]

Is it wrong to think that I don't think Toog is any more or less cleared lol

[unwnd]

I also felt it was theater

[unwnd]

The consensus felt on Dunn when we all agreed to pit him and Toog off felt good. I'm glad I trashed my read early.

I think I would be..alright with thinking Cakez is fine for now because I don't think Dunn's strongsuit as a scum is to distance his partners effectively, he's more of an oasis

[unwnd]

In a vacuum I think his Taly takes and interactions look decent as well

[unwnd]

I also think it could be S/S lol

[unwnd]

I would vote Infinity and Toog on the other side I think

Taly looks good to me

Ulyana looked(?) good but I haven't parsed their posts as much

Willing to sheep peta on Skitter for now

[unwnd]

My angle on Infinity is that the more they post and the more people flip the more it looks like she's trying to not have TMI

Not exactly an amazing read but I think it makes sense behaviorally

[unwnd]

You think Dwlee was bussing Dunn?

[unwnd]

like toog, dunn, your slot, saber, etc.

Then her next readlist Dunn and Toog are both positionally lower as with Saber

Just because the crowd was taking more negatively about them

[unwnd]

additionally i don't see how Dwlee's vote on Dunn is guaranteed to not be a bus, he didn't even seem to really like sticking to it

This is not even remotely true, Dwlee wanted Dunn since like post #72 of their ISO

I pointed it out

[unwnd]

I mean I'm a little annoyed by the split because I'd love to have this conversation with Infinity herself

Saber, do you still think I'm scum? I don't know where your reassessments lie with me OKing Dunnstral/Toog and coming around to him

[unwnd]

I'm biased to think Me/Ydrasee/Peta/Cakez were having a town moment because that's what started the movement lol

[unwnd]

The only hesitance I have towards Infinity is that her style of development as town more leans into takebacks and anxiety

I wonder if Infinity (as town) could plausibly go 'these people I like are scumreading dunn so I will too now'

But that didn't feel voiced, Infinity was pretty much about townreading Dunn for a good time so the flip gives me whiplash

[unwnd]

I feel like another thing about Infinity is that she's so willing to be convinced

I remember we got into a squabble and she went 'uh yeah I guess that's true' basically. Just very much a people pleaser but I don't know if I fully trust my read

Would like feedback

[unwnd]

I also feel affronted by how she was at me being scum but agreeing with my early babble on liking Dunn and made it a point once or twice to say she continued to like Dunn

[unwnd]

I'd like if anyone legitimately supecting infinity would give thoughts on my wall I posted earlier

Where is it? I'll read it

[unwnd]

I'm pretty sure tweetie wouldn't just make this the epic blue town group and all the scum are over there

I find Gypyx's posting to be very

Something

Need to find a word for it

[unwnd]

Gypyx it just seems like you're speaking like you've been here the whole time when that is clearly not the case

That's what is bothering me lol

[unwnd]

I'd prefer you don't do that?

You're giving me shades of TENET lol

[unwnd]

Be the most genuine version of Gypyx because if you're admitting it's fake that doesn't help me

[unwnd]

I'd prefer you don't do that?

You're giving me shades of TENET lol

I have not been getting those vibes but I think gypyx was on the forwards side and I was mostly focused on the inverted side
can you describe his play in that game for me?

My memory isn't completely accurate but when I talk about shades it's more about how Gypyx was coasting

I definitely think Gypyx is playing to be least offensive as possible, even if you go look at his ISO

I also think that game after being coached by Cabd he would take away and use some of the strategies they taught him if he was scum again

[unwnd]

cakez is going to be insufferable if he had multiple correct reads that i was shielding

Better that he is and he's town

I don't really personally care about pelts

It's all relative to me

[unwnd]

gypyx I've never seen you effort this much as either alignment what's up

This post bothers me

Peta how are you quoting shit when the thread is locked

Computer illiterate over here

[unwnd]

Gypyx your vote just happened to be on Toog but now your posts here read like you don't think it was necessarily theater so

What gives

[unwnd]

Spill it?

I know you got prodded twice but I'm wondering where you're at

[unwnd]

Spill it?

I know you got prodded twice but I'm wondering where you're at

umm, is that directed at me?

if so idk what you're asking of me there

Just your reads or like what you think of Toog now

Yknow, given you voted them and all.

[unwnd]

OK

I'm seeing where Peta sees Taly's inconsistencies wrt Dunn read

[unwnd]

Sleep for now as well

[unwnd]

I'm no shiki expert but I played a game with pooky and me trolling as scum and she had this strange independence and tinkering about her that was less about showmanship or stuff like where she was like 'we need to vote 2 scum in here'. I remember this blanky because 1) it involved me 2) it seemed obvious. Shiki never deals in obvious though she always has an angle or her thoughts are just keystroked together without any pause of how it would be affecting others.

Like a person really married to the process but too involved to ever direct it to everyone? Small instances like that make me doubt my own shiki read because she never seemed authoritative

[unwnd]

The instance I'm talking about, this is probably unordered:

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

hm while i agree that if you’re town there’s likely scums voting for you, i still would like this unhurried we have seven and a half days and! i don’t really understand how this helps

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

UNVOTE:
VOTE: unwnd

not caught up, but this vote is interesting given the current rules of the event

sure is

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

like toogeloo and unwnd pushing through toogeloo/unwnd duel is hmmmmmm

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………

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

hm while i agree that if you’re town there’s likely scums voting for you, i still would like this unhurried we have seven and a half days and! i don’t really understand how this helps

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

and stop whatever this is

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like there’s no world in which it is reasonable to say we think you are the most likely scum

and let you choose like

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

unvote

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UNVOTE:

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like there’s no world in which it is reasonable to say we think you are the most likely scum

and let you choose like

like what? we aiming for two scums

two scums!!!! how would this be reasonable

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

unwnd still at e-1 and infinity moving the default second duelist off herself onto saber

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

unwnd still at e-1 and infinity moving the default second duelist off herself onto saber

without like, consideration to everything that made almost no sense that moved the second duelist from toogeloo to infinity in the first place?

[unwnd]

If you read shiki's posts here they seem very hollow

[unwnd]

Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

Just because I'm wagoned doesn't mean I don't get to figure out who the baddies are, right?

was just noting that both you and gamma reached for this

but also

i'm not a baddie

Never seen shiki care about her alignment

Meta soup isn't my favorite thing to serve, but that's just bound to happen when you are familiar with the players

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Subject: Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Event Four

You expect me to know your alignment to be town but that is unclear. Don't you think it's more productive for you to tell me your current POV of the game even if you're not confident in it?

did you ask for my point of view? ya know, before saying yeah i'd like to flip her?

i still think flipping gamma best, don't really get why dwlee feels like not solving in the way i am used to or their read of me but also doesn't really feel like mafia because of, would like toogeloo to stop memeing cause that always feels like mafia to me but i know oftentimes it isn't, skitter and gypyx feel towny, conversation dunn and sircakez were having in background early in game stuck in my head as noteworthy but dunno what to make of it,

I suppose what I'm getting at is that do you have any other reasons to suspect Gamma? Given your one reason right now is dependant on him potentially wanting to be voted.

that wasn't reason as much as possible explanation for behaviour, coupled with earlier self-voting

This is just too much for a vote on Gamma. Reading shiki here is that everything seems extra [!]

I think i would be okay voting her

[unwnd]

Blue

Wouldn't vote
Gamma
Cakez
Peta

Ydrasse

Ydra

Being weird
Gypyx

Still dislike

Saber

Pink

Wouldn't vote
Dwlee

Null void

Skitter (I guess)
Taly

Also being weird
Infinity

Would vote

Toog
Ulyana

[unwnd]

VOTE: Ulyana

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Actually

VOTE: Taly

[unwnd]

This vote is based on stupid gamestate read but hey it worked out for Dunn so

Whatever!

[unwnd]

(unwnd saying me/him/peta/cakez had a towny moment to forge a townblock)

I have you in your own category of null

I think that statement was just comfort. I am comforted by a Stagehand being eliminated and having some degree of reason behind it

[unwnd]

I pretty much agree with your #209 though

I'm not sure how many times I need to reword 'that was theater' before it really comes forward. I want to townread Peta for his 180 on Dunnstral but I also don't really quite understand where he's spinning his own wheels and doing all these monumental walkbacks and ISO picking. I'm pretty set on Toog/Ulyana but hey

[unwnd]

Like how can you not look at Dunnstral's literal princess bride ode and think 'this is a genuine interaction to be townread' because like. If it is TvS then why does Dunnstral take random choice and shoot at himself lol

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Just to follow up my own 217

I am still leaning peta is town because I think his process would take a lot to be superficial

I think this might just be another game (I harken back to the one with Mena/Skitter I think it was an open) where Peta is really gassed up and wants to solve openly. He could've stopped at the first ISO walkback and I would've been like 'jee guess Peta really cares about solving the game' but nah there's a madness to it

[unwnd]

it’s harder for me to conceptualize shiki even rolling scum tbf

There's just something off in her delivery of thoughts that I've tried to explain here before. I don't really like getting to this point because while it's fun brain exercise it can lead to making everything exhaustive and then I start seeing shit that isn't really there.

At face value she's fine but I'm bothered by her need to slather on her personality if that makes sense

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Oh right my vote is on Taly and not Toog/Ulyana

Er, gut feelings. It's based on gamestate as before

But gamestate reads are very hit-and-miss and can be dangerous if your gamestate read is confbiased to hell and back. The short of it is that Taly's position in the thread bothers me or something like that. IDK!

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Saber can you help me get over despising you tonally (not personally)

A big reason I took back my Infinity read is that you were voting her and I'm literally just like 'who is Saber's partner'

That has been my whole effort

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I get the selfishness in regards to your reads but if we default like that we'd be losing out on differentiating what everyone else wants

It just makes for a more difficult state to read because scum (if youre wrong) can just go 'lol ok sheep'

And that isn't me saying that I disagree, Toog/Ulyana are people I'm willing to vote lol