Slaughter Hour: Grand Debut | Hell

[SirCakez]

I might sacrifice for Ydra
It could be worth it to disable scum being able to save someone

[SirCakez]

Titus your slot needs to die for this game to advance

[SirCakez]

Titus your slot needs to die for this game to advance

That's true of all of us.

If I felt someone was competent, I'd sacrifice. I don't though.

Except your slot was the only one to make it out of the "left behind" group and is a universal scumread; others in here at least have some defenders

[SirCakez]

I would kill myself to save Ydra so that the other two and can't be saved by scum

[SirCakez]

I think the only person in here who should be saved is Ydrasse

[SirCakez]

the best option would just be everyone in here dies but the rules of the event don't allow that to happen

[SirCakez]

Titus and Uly trying so hard just makes me think they are scum

[SirCakez]

what is your goal here Uly?

[SirCakez]

FMPOV Titus and you are trying to find some way to wiggle out of dying here and that seems scum-motivated

[SirCakez]

like from what I'm seeing all of the suspicious people to the townblock are in here and so the best thing would be for everyone in here to die so that they can figure who the deepwolves are (if there are even any)
but we can't do that because of the event rule that scum can save someone so one person in here should be living and my strongest TR in here is Ydrasse by far so that's who I want saved and then everyone else can die

[SirCakez]

ok so you should understand why I find your push to save yourself to be suspicious

[SirCakez]

ok you say that but you're not seeing my POV
my viewpoint is that if both scum are in here then they literally HAVE to get someone out of here by any means necessary or it's GG
but if suspicious town are in here and they die it's not the end of the world and actually probably helps town with solving

so if the scumteam is Titus and you like I suspect than how much effort you're putting into not dying makes me think you're in the "must escape Hell" scum position

[SirCakez]

so if the scumteam is Titus and you like I suspect

could you explain how this possibly makes sense with our play like I’ve asked multiple times and you just ignore

i literally see nothing in here that makes me think you two can't be partners

i also don’t understand how both you and titus have this view of game as infallible townblock that sent you both here

who is the scum in the townblock then? and how?

[SirCakez]

i have zero interest in a no save

[SirCakez]

like if you pick instead of no one picking you can potentially kill two scum, wow!

this

[SirCakez]

i don't really care about solving heaven right now we can't affect them

[SirCakez]

arguing for a no save seems highly scum motivated right now

[SirCakez]

I had a dream we killed everyone in Hell and then the game ended because town won

[SirCakez]

how can letting scum choose someone to save ever pro-town
odds are extremely high there is at least one scum in here IMO

[SirCakez]

ok well I'm pretty set on sacrificing for Ydra and moving on but I'll hold for discussion i guess

[SirCakez]

Ydra you're not gonna do something wacky and save someone if I sacrifice for you right?

[SirCakez]

also,

@sircakez, if titus and i were scum together titus would have sent me up there 200,000% of the time, so

what is this in reference to?

I'm still listening

[SirCakez]

do you think Ydra is scum?

[SirCakez]

why would Titus suicide to save you? that doesn't make any sense. everyone would see her flip scum and find you immediately suspicious.

[SirCakez]

why would Titus suicide to save you? that doesn't make any sense. everyone would see her flip scum and find you immediately suspicious.

because being suspected is better than being dead? like we can’t win game if we both dead and i could argue for being framed et cetera

except that Titus not doing anything has now left you open to argue for your own survival w Ydra and I in a less-suspicious manner if one of us dies for you

i think what cakez is getting at is titus pass -> potentially placate me and cakez to passing as well for some reason -> you give to titus so there's no way to send up 2? that's how i see it

or it could be this too

i mean

sircakez heavily suspects you/did, so

if titus sent you instantly, i would assume he would send me up to like... have 2 people up there because he wouldnt trust your word which, in a 1v1 situation like that (assuming you were scum) one of us would be proven a liar since we would be saying different things about it

but if titus passes, and you have the final action and send titus? there's less risk that me or cakez send up one another to 1v1

also this is a good point I didn't even consider and it makes me feel better about Ydra

[SirCakez]

like if you think you have a ton of town equity... you should be able to have something like that, yeah?

the town equity i was referring to was situation specific like… it doesn’t make sense for me to be scum here whereas it possibly makes sense for you to be scum here thus I have more town equity

what does this even mean wtf

[SirCakez]

honestly Ydra felt super fucking town on the last few pages and Uly was combative and evasive for like no reason
so I'm about ready to make my choice

[SirCakez]

I mean, not particularly? I feel like whatever I have to say will be irrelevant because some people are gonna flip by the time we talk to Heaven again and those flips will affect the gamestate.

[SirCakez]

I mean you all know my thoughts about the people down here
if we're wrong and there's scum in the town block then I think I'd look at Gammagooey because scum saving Galron in the first event is still a little weird and Peta because they had some weird positioning at EoD yesterday.
I still Gamma's play in event 2 was absurdly town.

[SirCakez]

what are your takes?

[SirCakez]

i don't know...

[SirCakez]

VOTE: ydrasse
I will miss you all