AI UPCIK PART II | Compromised

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: MegA
Thanks for sabotaging 3d20 with that fake bus driver roll claim just to replace out lol

[Dragon of the West]

Wait, why would it have anything to do with our submissions? Did you guys submit actual roles? I just said a bunch of nonsense

[Dragon of the West]

Pretty sure our words just got thrown into an AI and the AI decided what that meant

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Why can’t we be friends, and unite against the real enemy, the jocks?
VOTE: Superbowl9

Sure.

VOTE: Superbowl9

Taroumaru, come join in.

Damn why do you guys hate owls? Especially really superb ones

[Dragon of the West]

Does "Hated status" just lower the threshold for a lim by one per stack on that person?

[Dragon of the West]

Why can’t we be friends, and unite against the real enemy, the jocks?
VOTE: Superbowl9

Sure.

VOTE: Superbowl9

Taroumaru, come join in.

Damn why do you guys hate owls? Especially really superb ones

My vote was based on reading it as “super bowl”

Yeah I know I was just making a bad joke

[Dragon of the West]

Ftr cause I'm already a universal Miller I would not mind repositioning on wagons to hammer them. Then scum can't become investigation proof by hammering and town won't be suspected of doing a scum strategy.

This would be smart...assuming you're town. Idk a better recommendation at the moment though

[Dragon of the West]

I guess let's do Dwlee's strat and hammer them before MeLo?

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I guess that would just be if we're unsure of your alignment at that point? Otherwise fake miller claim would be a pretty easy way for scum!you to win, no?

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Okay time to not get to day before ELO. Although, I interpreted that as DotW saying that I should die because of the hated modifier (which deactivates in ELO according to the mod)

Nah nothing to do with the hated modifier

[Dragon of the West]

If I'm scummy kill me sure. I don't think I'll be scummy

From what I've heard you aren't scummy as scum sooo not sure that's foolproof for me boss

[Dragon of the West]

Okay time to not get to day before ELO. Although, I interpreted that as DotW saying that I should die because of the hated modifier (which deactivates in ELO according to the mod)

I think it's more as insurance against you being scum pulling a gambit here to gain the very investigation immunity you claim to be preventing.

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Using that logic you'd fear lim me every game and probably lose.

I'm just saying it's not as easy as going "oh yeah he didn't do scummy things". FTR, I have paranoia about your slot every game we're in together lol

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Did everyone submit real roles except me? Lol

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I agree Dwlee hammers all wagons is the way to go to avoid anyone having an excuse for a red check. Still think they need to be limmed by MeLo unless they're just obvtown by that point. I'll consider anyone else that hammers scum

[Dragon of the West]

Did anyone else have to submit an alignment with your role suggestion?

I did not submit an alignment. I think MegA claimed they did submit an alignment

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So, for clarifications purposes : the way the setup was generated is that the roles you gave were fed to an AI, and it created a setup, hope it is clear like that

Gypyx - are you saying the AI created the setup and then you randomized who got the roles that the AI spit out?

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I mean I was told to give an alignment for my flavor pick. Was it not the same with you guys?

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I'm like 3 episodes past that point of my FMA rewatch and I wasn't ready to be reminded of it

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It's impossible not to learn about Nina on the internet...pretty sure I had it spoiled wayyyy before I ever watched lol

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There's so many people in this game I haven't played with before. Can't wait to read everyone terribly.

VOTE: unwnd
I just don't like the wording of their posts so far. Feels fluffy and fake

[Dragon of the West]

Also, I'm

V/LA until 05Oct

I should still be around enough to read and post catch ups daily or every other day

[Dragon of the West]

Spoiler:

Documenting thoughts in a notepad that I'll be slowly revealing over time

Don't like reading? Too fucking bad. Time to be a selfish bastard

I'm going to try and ignore most claims because they're not provable. Doesn't matter if you claim whatever Dwlee did it's bastard and anything goes. Radical claiming they know dwlee is town because aforementioned reasons is white noise to me. As it stands, I'm not getting a feel for what people want because it's mostly revolved around the setup itself. I think it should be treated as secondary at best. My reasoning is on the fact (I believe I've said this before, so if you've been in a game with me prepare to hear the same spiel!) mechanical play is very easy to hide behind and talk about.

For context, I just lost a recent game (Bloodstained) where I had scum in my crosshairs. Town got distracted by mechanical proceedings and it ended up with me being treated as an enemy of the state for wanting to do my fucking job. Two slots got close to cleared and we let ourselves get blindsided. Titus was in that game and can attest to my claims. In short-- Let's not do that again.

I actually missed that you were voting in tandem with A50.

Do you have any independent leanings? I don't mind the attempts to give out reads, I would read most of those as well-meaning as I'm pretty sure the lack of anything is just nervous scum

Probably says more about what type of team we're dealing with

@unwnd - it's really nitpicky of me, but the wordiness at times strikes me as fluff/over-deliberation. It could literally just be the way you write

[Dragon of the West]

Do you think I as scum would want to give myself attention in a stagnant game?

Not necessarily, but I also don't think the posts I've highlighted are all that likely to give you attention or push the game forward. It's a couple fluffy, nice sounding posts at the beginning of the game - which I agree is painfully surface level.

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If that's the case, why wouldn't I have hopped on a bigger wagon, like say Momrangal's? I wouldn't even have had to justify that one.

If you're scum with Mom you wouldn't want to hop on that wagon. Or if you know Mom is flipping town you might not want to look like an opportunistic vote on that wagon as it builds

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Ither than the latest posts about unwnd everything has either been fluff or mechanical talk.

This is, like, half the player list

[Dragon of the West]

Post restrictions seem likely

What are "post restrictions"?

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I'm fine with unwnd's interactions with me after my vote there. Probably town.

I'll vote back at Ari here. Your complaint about me could be made about at least half of the people in the game and I think focusing on me "floating along" right after I go VLA is creating a test that you know I'll probably fail so you can keep pushing a fake scumread on me
VOTE: Ari

[Dragon of the West]

I'm happy with my Ari vote I think

Aren't you voting Skybird?

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Kop's catchup is very mediocre, but the people who are choosing to treat his mediocrity as something special given the gamestate is troubling

Tbf Kop at least generated content on replace-in and tried to engage with the thread....which is saying something based on how much nothing most of the game has been

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That was actually when I was voting mom? I think? Now I'm voting skybird.

Yeah I think I saw a vote count and got confused. What about Ari did you like for scum?

@Ari - where'd you go? You dipped since I responded to you

[Dragon of the West]

Kop's catchup is very mediocre, but the people who are choosing to treat his mediocrity as something special given the gamestate is troubling

Tbf Kop at least generated content on replace-in and tried to engage with the thread....which is saying something based on how much nothing most of the game has been

Town

1. Almost50 - Town
2. NDmath - Lean Town
3. Dwlee99 - Town
5. Yuki - Lean Scum
6. Taroumaru - GTMH town would elim
7. Aristophanes - Lean Scum
8. Gamma Emerald - Lean Town
9. Skybird - Strong town lean
10. Momrangal - Wait on replacement
11. Superbowl9 - Need more
12. Titus - Pathetic town
13. Pesto - Who?
14. Radical Rat - Ok with elim to see if town is going in the right direction but not my favorite
15. KittyTacky - Lean Scum
16. Dragon Of The West - Lean Scum

Are you calling me or unwnd town in 562?

[Dragon of the West]

Post restrictions seem likely

What are "post restrictions"?

I'm fine with unwnd's interactions with me after my vote there. Probably town.

I'll vote back at Ari here. Your complaint about me could be made about at least half of the people in the game and I think focusing on me "floating along" right after I go VLA is creating a test that you know I'll probably fail so you can keep pushing a fake scumread on me
VOTE: Ari

@Ari - at least acknowledge me if you're gonna let your vote sit idly on me

[Dragon of the West]

I'm assuming that's a type of tree stump? So each day they can only post 100 letters?

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StD is prob town for scum reading Gamma alone. I guess he could just be aware that's how he always feels and it's mimicking that town!StD play, but I'll say it's town for now

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I don't think either of Ari's or ND's reasons for voting me are any good. Doubt partners would double up like that right away though so probably only one of them is scum at most.

Also @ND - it wasn't why me, it was "this is a dumb thing to nitpick given the state of the game". And as StD pointed out, Ari had literally JUST said how nothing at all happened over the course of multiple pages. Some real good "floating by" by Ari there

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Also I saw a question I forgot to addrsss as to whether my vote on you was OMGUS and no. It wasn't. I don't even remember if you were voting me at the time I made it.

You voted me first. I voted you for your read of me seeming fake and disjointed from game state

[Dragon of the West]

We need a lim, yes, but thus shouts opportunistic.

It's only opportunistic if Ari is town. Do you know he is?

[Dragon of the West]

Is it confirmed that 2 mastinas is town-aligned? I know tree stumps

normally

are, just curious if we think there's a chance they aren't.

Also, I'm not the absolute worst mislim...my role is actually weaker than a VT and I don't think Ari would be able to use it because I can't use it on other people. That's good to me because I still think they're scum but bad if we want them to be able to use the PR of the D1 flip N1 to judge them

[Dragon of the West]

If Ari isn't happening I could do NDmath, Yuki, SB9, or Titus

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: Yuki

[Dragon of the West]

I am though going to request that you claim the "name" of your role, just out of curiosity.

I can see both scum and town motivation for this...but the role is called "The Wicker Man"

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@Kop - how can you prove your role is town? I just want to know in what way it can be proven

Alright, I'm about to be in the mountains hiking for the next ~10 hours...I'll be back tonight

[Dragon of the West]

Is it confirmed that 2 mastinas is town-aligned? I know tree stumps

normally

are, just curious if we think there's a chance they aren't.

Also, I'm not the absolute worst mislim...my role is actually weaker than a VT and I don't think Ari would be able to use it because I can't use it on other people. That's good to me because I still think they're scum but bad if we want them to be able to use the PR of the D1 flip N1 to judge them

Someone already quoted the mod and DotW not knowing enough to look is bad.
VOTE: DotW

I am also willing to vote Yuki.

"Not remembering stuff is bad" is such a lazy reason. I asked a clarifying question to make sure we weren't assuming incorrectly

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Also the 2nd part of that post is gross. He has a power, therefore he's more than a VT. To me it reads like he doesn't want someone else to be able to use his power.

Sorry for the misjointed posts. On the phone at the moment.

Hey ding dong, I don't have a "power". I have no night action

[Dragon of the West]

I still want ari dead

VOTE: Ari

[Dragon of the West]

As I stated in the post, I looked at the 3 slots I saw the most chatter about/suspicion on at the time.

Can you quote the chatter/suspicion about me prior to your post about me?

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DotW, do you always ask everyone else to find things for you instead of finding the info yourself? All you had to do was look at the 1st page. And please refrain from calling other people names.

I didn't remember that the answer was there, or else I would have remembered to look there. You couldn't even read my post saying "I can't use my action on other people" so it looks like you need me to point things out to you that you should have read if you're going to vote me

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DotW says he doesn't have a power and said his role is called The Wickerman. I've seen that movie and the guy gets sacrificed in the end. I wonder if DotW is the character we need to lim to stop the miller and hated status of hammering town.

I just can't be protected; that's my role. Nothing to do with the hated status

[Dragon of the West]

A50, Skybird, Ari/NDmath, Titus most sus. Not sure if StD tried to pocket me after I gave him a townread

[Dragon of the West]

Don't let Dwlee live past Melo

[Dragon of the West]

^ That should be: Don't let Dwlee live TO Melo

[Dragon of the West]

I think this is the first time I've been mislimmed since coming back. Good luck town!

[Dragon of the West]

After I tried to save you smh

Scum can try to "save" townies... It makes them look good. Seriously though A50 and/or Skybird are sus as hell. I'm pretty sure A50 is scum. Skybird rolefished me HARD for not a really good reason and seemed to purposefully misread my initial claim

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^ That should be: Don't let Dwlee live TO Melo

Also this is troll cause I'll probably solve the game in ELO and win it for us if you don't mislim me for no reason

Meh. If you're obvtown by then, sure

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I'm pretty sure A50 is scum.

I expect an explicit apology in the dead thread

If you're town, I will gladly come apologize. I expect an apology too for you leading my mislim

[Dragon of the West]

A50 hard claim if you actually have a clear or I'm vote parking you tomorrow

Did you actually believe he had a hard clear when he posted that "confirmed townie" BS?

[Dragon of the West]

If you're town, I will gladly come apologize. I expect an apology too for you leading my mislim

Mate, you're Macho.. a -ve utility. Ari is a +ve utility. I don't know why you're so upset. I did offer myself -albeit as a last option- to save Ari.

I'm not actually upset, sorry if my tone comes off that way. Sometimes I think my writing comes off sounding more serious than I mean it

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Also, like I said in an earlier post, I'm not a terrible mislim because my role sucks. But also now Ari can't use a power N1 and that's what you all were arguing you needed to judge him on

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A50 - I genuinely enjoy playing with you; hope you know that. I just think you're scum here

@Skybird - sorry for calling you a ding dong, that was also supposed to be more jovial than it probably sounded

[Dragon of the West]

As I stated in the post, I looked at the 3 slots I saw the most chatter about/suspicion on at the time.

Can you quote the chatter/suspicion about me prior to your post about me?

Someone make Ari answer this though for me