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Uhh if it stayed pixelated after I saved it and I can just do the colors and paint dump, yeah. I've seen paint make it not pixelated anymore after you save and blend the colors though, in which case this took like an hour to make and idk if I feel like doing thatShe/They
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It's a few pixels away on desktop, didnt have time to finish it earlier
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I'd tell you why but it'll upset dwlee
Spoiler: bad meta zone, no dwlees allowedShe/They
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I'm just memeing on dwlee, but it's the only entrance I remember in games we were in together. Not necessarily always in the very first post, but usually in the first few posts from your first visit to the thread, it's there, ime.In post 107, Andresvmb wrote:
I’ve done it a few times. It’s not all I do of course. And I have played 18 games on this forum including this one - my entrances are definitely more varied than what’s being implied here. Seems like a cheap way of concluding I’m Scum. But whatever.In post 98, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm not sure if I remember that.In post 89, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Andre's normally starts games by saying he is town and this time he didn't
I don't think it's reason to SR you thoughShe/They
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Why are you expecting a good reason to unvote an RVS vote?In post 130, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Alright.In post 125, Andresvmb wrote:
I’ve only played Forum Mafia. Outside of playing only Town here, I played a bunch of games on a different forum. In total, I’ve played… north of 100 games. My Town W/L record is like ~62% outside of here. I do think the Scum Win Rate around here is much higher than I’m used to. But I used to play with what I think are really strong Town players and often, so there’s that.In post 118, LicketyQuickety wrote:Andres, how much experience with Mafia do you have? Both IRL and Forum/other Mafia.
Here's what I'm thinking about you.
You seem to be mixing between playing seriously and playing frivolously. You've made serious posts, but then after unvoted me for bad reasons. Not sure how to read your slot currently, but I'll try and keep tabs on you.She/They
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Are you scum my guy?In post 171, Almost50 wrote:
I ain't seeing no double negative nowhere!In post 22, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Just checking because double negative, but that's what I figured. Koba and Dwlee are just not nerds thoShe/They
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Why are you describing that readslist as strategic?In post 224, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I know. That's exactly what I've been saying.In post 223, Loftwing wrote:LickeyQ, I think the reason why Dweelee the Intimidator is complaining at you is because you made a readlist with too many N/A spots.
Dwlee's read on me boils down to exactly that. I had too many nulls in my RL. IDK what Dwlee is expecting there. Are they thinking I shouldn't be making a RL at that point in the game? That's NOT what is being expressed. I could see if that was the reason why Dwlee was SRing me. I did that RL for a reason which I will not give at this point, but I did it for a reason. I think Dwlee has somehow latched onto the fact I made a strategic post and is SRing me for it. But I did it because I'm Town and am not going to talk about my reason for it more at this time.She/They
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I dont think dwlee has this fire as scum. End of p10 rn. Hasn't looked like this since I was pushing them in that mini with mathblade we ended up winningShe/They
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Because it was an RVS vote. They don't usually stick around very long.In post 343, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why should I expect them to Unvote at all?In post 341, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Why are you expecting a good reason to unvote an RVS vote?She/They
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Mmm I dont think this is the case. There's not really anything thereIn post 353, DkKoba wrote:
its not good at all because its trying to discredit townreads rather than try to find them as town.In post 351, LicketyQuickety wrote:
This post isn't bad.In post 350, Andresvmb wrote:
Why is Ranny Town? Or Titus? And how is A50’s content conclusive either way? You TR Titus but think I need to be in the POE? How have you decided on Norwegian’s alignment?In post 335, DkKoba wrote:
this rebuttal is about as potent as a wet badgerIn post 330, Andresvmb wrote:Koba I think your POE is ass and you could be Scum. Fight me?
minus your own name, explain why it sucks.
Your POE is bad right now. At the very least it seems to have been set way too early.todiscredit, and you're also asking him to explain why it sucks so for you to say the response is bad feels like scum-motivated entrapment. You literally asked him to do it.
VOTE: KobaShe/They
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Gotta rate your vibe because I haven't seen anything AI yet and my instinct is to SR that. Usually you'll sprinkle something useful or at least insightful in.In post 383, Almost50 wrote:
How can you call me scum and your guy in the same sentence??In post 379, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Are you scum my guy?
Also, what do you expect the answer to be? And what would you make out of it? (Because if I was scum I'd probably be telling you that I'm not, which is the same thing I'm telling you now as Town, so how can you tell the difference?)She/They
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Is this a joke?In post 386, Nero Cain wrote:in fairness, I think most players are negative utilityShe/They
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I'm not going to talk about this.In post 387, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Why are you describing that readslist as strategic?In post 224, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I know. That's exactly what I've been saying.In post 223, Loftwing wrote:LickeyQ, I think the reason why Dweelee the Intimidator is complaining at you is because you made a readlist with too many N/A spots.
Dwlee's read on me boils down to exactly that. I had too many nulls in my RL. IDK what Dwlee is expecting there. Are they thinking I shouldn't be making a RL at that point in the game? That's NOT what is being expressed. I could see if that was the reason why Dwlee was SRing me. I did that RL for a reason which I will not give at this point, but I did it for a reason. I think Dwlee has somehow latched onto the fact I made a strategic post and is SRing me for it. But I did it because I'm Town and am not going to talk about my reason for it more at this time.She/They
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I see your point but I don't agree with it. It's not like he SRed you in the first place, I dont think you'd even posted when he voted you. Andres' unvote just didn't feel weird to me.In post 399, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Sure. But why unvote before voting someone else? Surely you can see my point here. People generally unvote when they stop SRing someone. That was not the case in this situation. In this situation, they didn't vote someone Scummier.In post 398, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Because it was an RVS vote. They don't usually stick around very long.In post 343, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why should I expect them to Unvote at all?In post 341, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Why are you expecting a good reason to unvote an RVS vote?She/They
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I did early in catchup, but now I'm not sure. "Strategic readslist" really pinged me, as does describing Dwlee's push as moving the goalposts, but I feel like he's made some good observations that outweigh that for me, like with that Nero/Ranny interaction.In post 400, DkKoba wrote:kyouko, do you scumread quick?
Tentatively he is out of my D1 POE and I'm working on firming that upShe/They
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Mislims arent the only thing scum are looking for. Offering the advice on playing larges via finding a town poe, and stuffing the call-out on your own poe, reads to me like scum looking to establish themselves within a townblock.In post 405, DkKoba wrote:
ah yes scum motivated entrapment where I later even don't push people to vote there.In post 404, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Mmm I dont think this is the case. There's not really anything thereIn post 353, DkKoba wrote:
its not good at all because its trying to discredit townreads rather than try to find them as town.In post 351, LicketyQuickety wrote:
This post isn't bad.In post 350, Andresvmb wrote:
Why is Ranny Town? Or Titus? And how is A50’s content conclusive either way? You TR Titus but think I need to be in the POE? How have you decided on Norwegian’s alignment?In post 335, DkKoba wrote:
this rebuttal is about as potent as a wet badgerIn post 330, Andresvmb wrote:Koba I think your POE is ass and you could be Scum. Fight me?
minus your own name, explain why it sucks.
Your POE is bad right now. At the very least it seems to have been set way too early.todiscredit, and you're also asking him to explain why it sucks so for you to say the response is bad feels like scum-motivated entrapment. You literally asked him to do it.
VOTE: Koba
very smart yes.
go sit in the corner with quick and dwlee
The wording used in the pushback on Andres felt very specifically geared towards that agenda, so it feels too coincidental to be town.She/They
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I'm used to your reads making sense as well, here your poe seems exaggerated. It's hard to connect the dots.In post 406, DkKoba wrote:if you try to ever hyperfocus 1 thing i do and call me scum for it you are playing very poorly and i have the game experiences to prove that point is true btw
why do you think im scum outside of that?She/They
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I don't think so but you're welcome to quote if you disagree. Haven't reread anything yet.In post 413, DkKoba wrote:
man your dishonesty about people is off the charts rn - you alright kyouko? (:In post 408, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Gotta rate your vibe because I haven't seen anything AI yet and my instinct is to SR that. Usually you'll sprinkle something useful or at least insightful in.In post 383, Almost50 wrote:
How can you call me scum and your guy in the same sentence??In post 379, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Are you scum my guy?
Also, what do you expect the answer to be? And what would you make out of it? (Because if I was scum I'd probably be telling you that I'm not, which is the same thing I'm telling you now as Town, so how can you tell the difference?)
i think a50 has actually sprinkled in some useful stuff in which is precisely why i have marked him town here-> you're trying to cherrypick him now.She/They
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I like to finish my catchup.In post 414, DkKoba wrote:hey kyouko i know you see the pedits, you're stalling interacting with me <3 dont be scared cmonShe/They
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You (should) know I finish catching up, so hyper posting while I catch up is just a tactic here, or you dont know me as well as you think you do.In post 419, DkKoba wrote:kyouko it isnt a good look when you accuse me, are posting in thread while i respond to you and then dip without responding back
just saying !~~She/They
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Probably it's important you live at least to N1 if you're willing to go this route of "I wouldn't do this as scum"In post 429, DkKoba wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87211 -found kyouko town
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87005 - found kyouko scum
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86774 - replaced in , immediately spotted kyouko scum
i thought i had 1 more town game but oh well the point is there i have in recent times 100% read kyouko so if im voting her you should vote her too ~~ i would never burn this on d1 like this if im scum so people with bad takes about my alignment can go awayShe/They
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Who do you think I have fake uncertainty on, LQ? If not LQ, who? What seems fake about it?In post 439, DkKoba wrote:also kyouko as scum is like very notorious for like having really obvious fake pretend "uncertainty" on slots while town they just flow and have conviction in their takes
i know im letting kyouko break meta in the future because of revealing this but i just kinda wanna bury them cuz im annoyed lol
This is pretty close to a good tell on me, but it's the opposite, so I'll help you keep that 100% read rate up.Spoiler: Koba onlyShe/They
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What are you talking about (assuming it's completed)? Only game I can think of with those players is ongoing.In post 444, Almost50 wrote:
Seriously??In post 408, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Gotta rate your vibe because I haven't seen anything AI yet and my instinct is to SR that. Usually you'll sprinkle something useful or at least insightful in.
FoS Kyouko. You should know why already (and so should Nero, Wake, Titus & Andres)
I didn't follow that game where Bambi Jay was scum that closely after I died N1. You were scum in Dead Silence but I think I actually learned nothing about your scumgame in that game (though it was a fun one to watch from the dead)
I expect you to shitpost. I also expect there to be content in some of your posts. I hadn't noticed any yet - maybe I missed it? Open invite to quote is out to Koba, you could quote as well if I've missed something notable.She/They
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I can reread you in the morning but I've got other games tooIn post 458, Almost50 wrote:
Nope. Unless I get proper explanation for her FALSE statement about me I am going to deathtunnel her myself. I am just giving her this one chance to try and get out of the hole she dug herself into.In post 435, Dwlee99 wrote:Can I veto Kyo cause I like her?She/They
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It may be true that you've never been eliminated D1, but even if it's true, this is just grandstanding. There are pitfalls to being able to read me as well as you can - I had a feeling when I read 81 you'd rolled scum and were preparing for when you would inevitably have to fake a scumread on me despite your 100% read rate.In post 467, DkKoba wrote:
i have never been eliminated d1 in any game so theres no real argument of me being worried of living to d2 as scum from a push from you.In post 465, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Probably it's important you live at least to N1 if you're willing to go this route of "I wouldn't do this as scum"In post 429, DkKoba wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87211 -found kyouko town
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87005 - found kyouko scum
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i thought i had 1 more town game but oh well the point is there i have in recent times 100% read kyouko so if im voting her you should vote her too ~~ i would never burn this on d1 like this if im scum so people with bad takes about my alignment can go away
your reason to even vote me was just plain terrible in context of my actual meta.
you're not gonna frame me as scum here - but i'll keep rebutting your points so im hardspewed town from you.
I figured it would be best to resolve this asap if you seemed even slightly off, and when I saw your POE it didnt sit right with me, so I decided to push on it.She/They
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when I am in catchup mode I intentionally unfocus my eyes and scroll down to avoid the pedit posts, and repeatedly submit my post until the previews are gone, then I click the post I most recently quoted to resume my catchup.In post 469, DkKoba wrote:i mean theres also the fact that the preview will literally show it and like if *I* saw a vote for me and a case started to be made from a person who actually has successfully read me in the past - I would be very very interested in figuring out and would stop doing a "catchup".
not something thats definitive in trying to catch scumwise but like - it definitely doesnt contribute to kyouko looking good here
tbh i think it is a little fun to flip the switch on kyouko here bc i lowkey already scumread them but i hate going balls to the wall when i have a lockscum read but angry koba thinks differentlyShe/They
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I haven't ignored any response you gave to 408.In post 472, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Kyouko
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I feel like maybe this impression of my play is biased because of what stands out to you. You're recalling the one scumgame I had with you and the one towngame I faked a guilty in. These make sense as standouts but I feel like we've had other completed games together where I was town to considerIn post 549, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t know what to do about your argument with Kyouko. Kyouko has basically SR me every time they’re Town, and either ignored or defended me as Scum. So I’m always wary when I start seeing Kyouko make assumptions about my alignment when attacking other players. But this does feel a bit different - so it’s possible they’ve just read me right.She/They
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In post 584, Dwlee99 wrote:I like Andres for townI like the read and vote so +town here
Regarding the bold, I dont think this is accurate. Does it really come off this way? I'd intended to let him know he is wrong this time around, and gave him a tip he can use next time around if he rolls town, because I see no harm in helping him read me better in the future.In post 596, Andresvmb wrote:
Here’s my take - the reason I haven’t defended Kyouko aggressively despite seriously questioning Koba is because if I’m wrong about Koba (and I can be - Koba is notoriously hard to read) is because Kyouko admitted that Koba has their number, and yet they’re not screamingIn post 595, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What is your read on SSB Andres. Do you scumread them?hardto get Koba executed. There’s not a whole lot of outrage in 461 or 480 for example. Just some surprise, a rather meek admission that Koba does have Kyouko’s number,and some strategic discussion about how Koba might go about using their 100% read rate to their advantage as Scum.
I am comfortable applying the burden of proficiency standard to a selectfewplayers. The number is small, and since I haven’t played here enough most of those players are in the old forum I used to play in. Koba is in that list. I have a feeling Kyouko agrees that the standard should apply to Koba too. If that’s indeed the case, then why aren’t they more outraged that Koba is reading them wrong and hard dunking on them? And why are they letting me take all the heat here? I’ve been in games with players I know can easily tell when I’m Town. I know how that feels like. And when they’re hedging on my slot (and I’m acting like my usual Town self), or even worse, calling me Scum, I obviously get suspicious. I’m always skeptical even if you have me right, but with some players it becomes more obvious when they should be reading you correctly but aren’t.
At the same time, I have seen Koba get some things wrong (of course, none of us are perfect). But after screaming this loud for an execution? I think that’s maybe a bit rare. If we flip Kyouko, and they flip Scum, Koba is going to get NK’ed and well, that’ll be that. But if they’re wrong? Then what? That’s going to be hard. What I’ve done in the past in situations like this is advocated for the “1v1” to get sorted, and go from there. I don’t know that I’m the one who should be making this argument. But I think it should be considered.
I'm not screaming about it because I don't think that's going to be a productive way to eliminate him, and if we're both wrong, it's not going to help town if the thread gets swallowed up by a loud TvT. I'm trying to be better about not doing that because it makes things difficult later if I'm in ELO. I usually get pushed for it.She/They
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This looks weird to me, anyon eplayed with Ranny before? It feels like the classic "fairish" scumtell, also the words dont seem to match the intent.In post 602, Rannygazoo wrote:Andres, I’ve read through and seen you complain about weak votes from Norwee and Titus, and people reading your meta wrong.Would it be fair to say you’ve been caught for the wrong reasons?
Like what is expected here Ranny? What do you expect Andre's to say and what do you get from that? This feels snipish.She/They
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I think the idea is if you are scum then I am scum. The conviction in your posts is telling LQ you either know I am scum (bussing) or are very convinced I am scum (town).In post 631, DkKoba wrote:
ok on reread this fucking post is hilarious because its like "koba is town or scum" when you boil it down like all you are saying is that .. kyouko is scum here.In post 627, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Koba is either Town or bussing. Just thought I would get that off my chest.She/They
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Or my last post is wrong I guess? What do you mean by "no" if you seem to agree I am scum?In post 633, LicketyQuickety wrote:
No, it means you are right about Koy.In post 631, DkKoba wrote:
ok on reread this fucking post is hilarious because its like "koba is town or scum" when you boil it down like all you are saying is that .. kyouko is scum here.In post 627, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Koba is either Town or bussing. Just thought I would get that off my chest.She/They
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Checking what you meant by it because it didn't really make sense to me, but also didn't read like a joke. I could see it being a joke on rereading but I wanted to make sure, because otherwise it seems weirdIn post 634, Nero Cain wrote:
yes and no.In post 411, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Is this a joke?In post 386, Nero Cain wrote:in fairness, I think most players are negative utility
yes, it's general trash talk
no, I don't everyone in the game has a neg utility role
What kind of question is this?
meta is ok. Its a decent tool but it shouldn't be used as a bible b/c scum abuse it and dumb town misuse it.In post 452, DkKoba wrote:meta good because people are not all the same and there are different tells for everyone
like what?In post 463, DkKoba wrote:there's content in andres' posts though that *is* pretty off for andres' town meta - which is where I'm seeing like concern in his slot.
Do you think Koba is scum abusing meta?She/They
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In post 687, GrandpaMo wrote:look at my bad take on my pfp :')She/They
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reminder to check the timelineIn post 700, Andresvmb wrote:Consider my vote on Kyouko for now. I want to give the non-posters time to catch up [Kop, MargotRosa].She/They
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I had family in town from last Tuesday through Saturday. Normally I play in the morning before work and during work because I work from home. I took PTO Th/Fri, so I was still active (more like limited access) while they were here on Tuesday/Wednesday before PTO. Once PTO started I was doing stuff with family for 4 days. Eased back in a bit yesterday, still catching up in my games.In post 791, NorwegianboyEE wrote:SSB why you just gone?She/They
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What makes you think that? I haven't read them. Why are you voting me? I was chocking it up to sheeping Koba but this is looking really bad faith now - again, a reminder to check the timeline for me here because I'm not sure when I posted my V/LA in this game, because it started after I crossposted my V/LA some time the week before my V/LA started.In post 810, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I'm pretty sure they've read these last pages. Yet chose to not make any posts or comment.In post 807, Dwlee99 wrote:Elitell bad here probably
What do you think that tells us?She/They
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I started a V/LA that I had announced before FIA WRC started when you started scumreading me in that game?In post 823, DkKoba wrote:This was how kyouko acted when i was confident on her being scum in our first game together (mini normal FIA) I can link laterShe/They
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Do you think the wagons are SvS or something? That's all I can think otherwise it makes no sense to think dwlee wagon is pure if you think it is a counterwagon to me.In post 837, DkKoba wrote:dwlee wagon might be currently pure too, loftwing i can see scum - scum just trying to scramble for options that wont get shut down easily.
If you do think we're SvS that's some very shallow thinking from you - not characteristic of your towngame.
Actually I remember now, you've been saying Dwlee is town for ~convoluted reasons~, so this makes no sense.
Saying I am scum and Dwlee is town and that both of our wagons are pure does not align.She/They
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Answered before it was asked *technically*, but it was the kind of answer that reads like a non-answer. Koba said recently before that I'm ignoring pressure like I did in that mini I was scum in, but Koba hasn't played with town!me under wagon pressure before. See D1 of Chrono Trigger Chronicles to see me ignoring the mounting pressure on myself while continuing to push my SR, to the point that scum actually just lolhammered me "accidentally" while I was still catching up.In post 946, Loftwing wrote:
Where was Nero's Question Answered? Koba just straight up deflected instead of answering.In post 944, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero's question was answered
And pressure on a slot I think could be scum is just objectively a good thing. If they're town they can probably town up. If they're scum they probably can't.
Your thought process there is just not how I think about playing this game at all
Yeah, but you didn't say that you thought they were scum, hell, you couldn't have thought they were scum, because they were a noposter. You would've been just as justified in thinking that they left the game and were going to get replaced. You had 0 reason to think that they were scum, but you voted them anyway.
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And yet you're voting meIn post 943, Loftwing wrote:That is indicative of you WKing Dwlee against me, which is something a scum player would do to gain followers, which again, makes your actions more popular, regardless of what they are.Spoiler: No need to needlessly increase the length of my posts
Bolded are the most viable wagons, and underlined are who I would want to axe. I hope you can see how you are the most viable option.
The things Koba is pushing me on are NAI, but he thinks he can abuse his previous streak on me for a mislim and get away with it on towncred.
When I say reads like a non-answer, I mean like, it reads tonally like the following: "I already explained why I'm voting, read my ISO".She/They
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As for posting in other games, if anyone actually wants to do homework they'll see the content of what I posted. This is a bit close to discussing ongoing games though and am not going to discuss that further. The only reason I'm bringing it up is because it's being used as a scummy reason to SR me because I can't deconstruct it without breaking site rules.She/They
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The ol' "gotcha"In post 958, DkKoba wrote:Hey why are you deflecting giving a reads list Loftwing isn't deflection scummy?She/They
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I think the point isIn post 971, Dwlee99 wrote:Loftwing, how am I being white knighted if I'm not town? That's my point that you're voting meifyou're town, considering the bolded in the below quote. But I think Loftwing uses WKing poorly here. It seems clear from context ("WKing Dwleeagainst me") that what Loft means is Koba turning you against himself (Loft).
Dwlee, what do you mean by "That's my point that you're voting me"? You think Loft is perspective slipping or something?In post 943, Loftwing wrote:In post 941, DkKoba wrote:Loftwing, why is the wagon bad?
What are the scummy things I'm doing that imply I have a scummy thought process?
I.e. I dont give a shit what actions you think are scummy because thats level 1 reading - Why are the actions linked to a scum agenda and improbable to be towny?Snipped
Basically, I would expect Margot to act poorly and get axed, regardless of their alignment, and maybe even regardless of their role. If Margot was a power role, we might have accidentally axed a PR Day 1, because they looked scummy when put under immense pressure.
And what do you do? You defend Dwlee's actions. You say that this was actually a pro-town thing to do. That this was actually something you would expect town, not scum, to do. I'm not buying it. That is bullshit. That is indicative of you WKing Dwlee against me, which is something a scum player would do to gain followers, which again, makes your actions more popular,regardless of what they are.She/They
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What about my reaction to pressure is shitty?In post 993, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’ve already said that i’m voting Kyouko until they post.
I think their shitty reaction to pressure from Koba and subsequent flaking from the game was extremely scum indicative. If they return and make town posts i’ll change my mind, but if nothing has happened to change my scumread of the slot i don’t see why it should.She/They
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Also missing that DKs actions are only implied to be WKing of Dwlee is town, and in the same post Loft qualifies that Dwlee.could be either alignmentIn post 1010, LicketyQuickety wrote:
lvl 0 read.In post 1008, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 979, Dwlee99 wrote:Because it doesn't make sense to say that they're white knighting me from their perspective because from their perspective they're not scumShe/They
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I thought this was the case as I was reading the previous post but I was still convinced I'd somehow forgottenIn post 1017, Dwlee99 wrote:Roden is not in this gameShe/They
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