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it's not srs but in serious terms it would come off as like hey I'm gonna place my vote here and coast tf out of this game till tonight. so don't give me attention till I'm back
it's not srs but in serious terms it would come off as like hey I'm gonna place my vote here and coast tf out of this game till tonight. so don't give me attention till I'm back
If this was any other player I would probably townread this claim, but I've seen scum Koba pull off good fakeclaims. (I've played with them a few times on EM. I also played on mafia.gg for a while but I didn't like the community.... so here I am.)
In post 76, Andresvmb wrote:The only read I can currently express is that I have a mild positive Lean on Hakai. That’s it.
How come?
I just liked the reasoning as to why they were withholding a TR on you based on the fact that you claimed negative utility. It wasn’t entirely superficial. That’s really it, just an early guess.
In post 134, Andresvmb wrote:It wasn’t bad reasons. It was a joke.
For what it’s worth, I still like my Unvote.
???
Maybe because I like your subsequent posting? I didn’t know I had to explain every little thing.
No, I just expect people to normally post in a way that makes sense. If your meta is that you do this sort of thing all the time, then I don't really have a problem with your slot.
Meta is boring. Judge someone by how much they like Bread. Or by how well they perform at hunting for scum.
I find meta an
okay
scumhunting tool. I'm not sure what Dwlee's awkward fixation about it is.
In post 157, Loftwing wrote:We currently have had 12 out of a total of 16 players publicly acknowledge that this game is taking place. Out of them, who would you want to hear more from @everyone
Hakai. I think that's my strongest SR at this point.
In post 157, Loftwing wrote:We currently have had 12 out of a total of 16 players publicly acknowledge that this game is taking place. Out of them, who would you want to hear more from @everyone
Hakai. I think that's my strongest SR at this point.
In post 223, Loftwing wrote:LickeyQ, I think the reason why Dweelee the Intimidator is complaining at you is because you made a readlist with too many N/A spots.
I know. That's exactly what I've been saying.
Dwlee's read on me boils down to exactly that. I had too many nulls in my RL. IDK what Dwlee is expecting there. Are they thinking I shouldn't be making a RL at that point in the game? That's NOT what is being expressed. I could see if that was the reason why Dwlee was SRing me. I did that RL for a reason which I will not give at this point, but I did it for a reason. I think Dwlee has somehow latched onto the fact I made a strategic post and is SRing me for it. But I did it because I'm Town and am not going to talk about my reason for it more at this time.
Lickety is town for this post.
In post 258, DkKoba wrote:dwlee has left what i believe to be their scumrange personality wise so they're off the table d1 so have fun
In post 340, DkKoba wrote:rannny did call it, I remember seeing them subtly call it out lol
I see.
In post 358, DkKoba wrote:a50 is a pretty polarized player in terms of town/scum meta. very much a person who rands scum and just doesnt like to post very much. easily cleared here for me.
titus i've already explained - that's a slot im very willing to bin for today because their posting feels like her town meta.
norwee has the town norwee energy. If i'm wrong on him now I'll find him as scum later this dayphase so im not even remotely worried about that read right now.
ranny thought process is very plainly town to me - and they're operating fairly complex.
all of these are holistic interpretations of their respective ISOs so far so there aren't any really "specific" posts I point to to say they are town.
Even if Koba is scum most of these reads are likely genuine.
In post 391, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I dont think dwlee has this fire as scum. End of p10 rn. Hasn't looked like this since I was pushing them in that mini with mathblade we ended up winning
In post 330, Andresvmb wrote:Koba I think your POE is ass and you could be Scum. Fight me?
this rebuttal is about as potent as a wet badger
minus your own name, explain why it sucks.
Why is Ranny Town? Or Titus? And how is A50’s content conclusive either way? You TR Titus but think I need to be in the POE? How have you decided on Norwegian’s alignment?
Your POE is bad right now. At the very least it seems to have been set way too early.
This post isn't bad.
its not good at all because its trying to discredit townreads rather than try to find them as town.
Mmm I dont think this is the case. There's not really anything there
to
discredit, and you're also asking him to explain why it sucks so for you to say the response is bad feels like scum-motivated entrapment. You literally asked him to do it.
VOTE: Koba
In post 417, DkKoba wrote:ok come vote hakai with me lets compromise
In post 30, Andresvmb wrote:@Koba are you Town? If you are, we can actually partner up for once.
weird thing to ask and you know why
I have to ask. I don’t want to have to fight you.
Fine, you’ll have to figure out my alignment over time then, and I will have to figure out yours. You really could have just told me you know.
OK so what is your Scum meta like?
I know you're a lurker but is that as Town or Scum?
The reason I'm asking is because you've got a ton of posts in this game already.
Please explain this to me Andre.
I don’t know that describing my Scum meta is of any use here when you don’t trust my alignment. What I can do is link you to a few discussions around it that I thought were decent when it came to my Scum meta, which might be more useful.
I don’t like to lurk as either alignment for the record. I just get left behind sometimes. What you’re seen is just life getting in the way. I had more time here to start reading from the very beginning, so I’ve been more active. If you look through my history, you’ll see various levels of engagement as Town. Which is why I questioned how many of my games you had actually read - because if you had read more games, you would have quickly realized that I can be quite active when I want to be.
In post 537, Hakai wrote:Even if Koba is scum most of these reads are likely genuine.
This isn’t a thing btw. Reads can’t be genuine if they’re coming from Scum. They can only be strategic if they’re coming from Scum. It’s why when LQ described their own post as strategic, it raised some eyebrows.
I've seen scum put out completely genuine reads in the hope of sounding town.
In post 593, Almost50 wrote:There's a reason I mixed all 5 up in one pool. I am not going into details about whom I confidently read or why.
In post 606, DkKoba wrote:there's like a really convoluted reason i think dwlee is town and it involves a series of assumptions of explainations for their play thus far and im lowkey too embarassed to say it out loud in case they flip scum... lMFAO
In post 30, Andresvmb wrote:@Koba are you Town? If you are, we can actually partner up for once.
weird thing to ask and you know why
I have to ask. I don’t want to have to fight you.
Fine, you’ll have to figure out my alignment over time then, and I will have to figure out yours. You really could have just told me you know.
OK so what is your Scum meta like?
I know you're a lurker but is that as Town or Scum?
The reason I'm asking is because you've got a ton of posts in this game already.
Please explain this to me Andre.
I don’t know that describing my Scum meta is of any use here when you don’t trust my alignment. What I can do is link you to a few discussions around it that I thought were decent when it came to my Scum meta, which might be more useful.
I don’t like to lurk as either alignment for the record. I just get left behind sometimes. What you’re seen is just life getting in the way. I had more time here to start reading from the very beginning, so I’ve been more active. If you look through my history, you’ll see various levels of engagement as Town. Which is why I questioned how many of my games you had actually read - because if you had read more games, you would have quickly realized that I can be quite active when I want to be.
In post 537, Hakai wrote:Even if Koba is scum most of these reads are likely genuine.
This isn’t a thing btw. Reads can’t be genuine if they’re coming from Scum. They can only be strategic if they’re coming from Scum. It’s why when LQ described their own post as strategic, it raised some eyebrows.
I've seen scum put out completely genuine reads in the hope of sounding town.
In post 593, Almost50 wrote:There's a reason I mixed all 5 up in one pool. I am not going into details about whom I confidently read or why.
You can move up to town.
State your read on my slot. Now.
Town.
In post 614, Loftwing wrote:Reading is hard. So far I think most of the scum are lurking, with at most 1 scum max in the high posters.
In post 622, Rannygazoo wrote:It is hard to keep track of this many players this early.
That’s why I think everyone making a reads list is weird.
I think this type of thought probably comes from town.
In post 624, Wake1 wrote:I don't like that we're voting someone who hasn't even played yet. If they don't post at all they'll get prodded or replaced. I feel that it's really cheap, and despite having voted no-shows in the past I now think it's not really optimal Townplay any more. Dwlee, I don't think you should be voting a no-show, unless it's just to get the person to get active if lurking.
I agree. It's extremely cheap. And it's not how I expect Town!Dwlee to play. What's more is that Margot is a newbie, so it's concerning Dwlee is voting for a slot like that. Don't get me wrong, Margot isn't that bad of a player for their experience level (I played with them in a newbie recently and they pegged me as Scum).
Some other thoughts:
I think Dwlee has a real shot at being Scum. Something feels off about them. Their tunnel on me and then dropping it without really saying anything about it at all is something I could see from Town if Dwlee was somehow embarrassed about SRing me before, but I can also see it as Scummy as Dwlee sees their push isn't taking so they decide to go after LHF instead.
In post 579, DkKoba wrote:"Could be scum" is garbage reasoning. And i have especially distinct disdain for it because it how i get mislimmed in games.
This is a reach. I’m not arguing A50 is Scum! I’m arguing A50 is just null, and shouldn’t be hard locked as Town!
Maybe the background behind what I’m doing isn’t clear. Two players have already sheeped your read of Kyouko. You could very well be right. I really don’t know. What I do know could very well happen is that certain players get lazy, and they decide that they can replace their need to think with your reads. And then they just run through your POE and, if for some reason some of the names you’ve left out are Scum, or several of the ones you’ve included are Town, we lose. Because people listen to you, and most Town players are just that, lazy.
If you’re Scum well I don’t know if you would use your ability to read a particular player to your advantage quite like this. But you are wrong about me, and I am one of the leading wagons. So maybe rethink where I’m coming from.
Hm this read feels real.
+1
In post 682, Wake1 wrote:I want to know why you're being so cagey, ignoring my questions and observations, and making it feel like you're sparing no excuse to not engage with anyone.
I feel like you're holding back and to be frank with you it's a red flag to me.
The Dwlee push is bad and likely motivated by scum..
In post 701, Loftwing wrote:Firstly, sorry for misgendering you in one of my last posts, Dwlee.
Secondly, VOTE: Dwlee
I'm sure you're a perfectly healthy and mentally stable player, so why are you seemingly unwilling to give a reasonable response to Wake, rather than playing this weird "I'm not touching you" style game?
Wake is asking that you interact with him while you're here and ready to give responses, but instead of doing that, you instead say something like "What? No! I did do stuffs, like this poe! You have a problem with it?" And then when questioned about why the players who are there are, well, there, you say "You got a problem with any specific player m8?" which is irrelevant to what he was asking you.
but real talk, DW voting an inactive is fine and loftwing making a fuss about it is dumb.
Grandpa lowkey feels like they are ignoring the game. There's a Kyo wagon and he doesn't know about it?
Bullshit. VOTE: Nero Cain
In post 778, DkKoba wrote:look i recently caught a cheater on mafiauniverse im a mf roll on this catching bad users thing ... ok?? im so good at scumhunting outside teh game itself !!
xrCyclone? I've played with him too on mafia.gg. Apparently he faked his suicide on another site for attention....
Teens.
In post 780, DkKoba wrote:TURNING THE 100% TRASH READS INTO A GOD READ LETS GO
I am figuring out if you're defending me cause you're town or if you're defending me cause you know I'm town
Understood.
In post 840, DkKoba wrote:hakai could slot into any of the other 3 that aren't kyouko fwiw -
and i dont want slots like andres/titus to be under the radar either. those are 2 good places to shoot an investigative into. wake88 also is as well
I think everyone else im confident in being town except nero but he isnt aligned with enough people to be reasonably scum here, assuming a certain level of read accuracy from me.
Exactly why am I scum? I've provided a decent amount of content and no one has elaborated on their scumread of me.
In post 875, DkKoba wrote:if norwee wasn't already a locktown read he would be right now - and that indicates he should be for other people by this point.
Agreed.
In post 895, Loftwing wrote:NorwEE, you seem to be trying especially hard to strongarm the town here.
