Mini 2241: The Neighborhood -- ENDGAME

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VOTE: Dwlee

Hey friends

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Whats with you and being cult all the time

it's so that when I actually get cult, nobody will suspect it mwahahahahaha

Actually smart lol

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The only players I know a bit are House, Dwlee, and Jake/Loftwing.

VOTE: kazyan

Have we never played together?

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Takes a minute to fire up the neurons sometimes

I wouldn't vote you regardless of alignment because this is just asking for my attention either way

Oh.

Well, then.

VOTE: unwnd

You have my attention.

I don't understand what this post changed about your read

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Stop playing for a while, so many people I don't know now

How are things Dwlee

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Yeah I preinned so long ago, I took a break for a while but I actually have some time now. I'm trying to find any motivation to write my dissertation while also dealing with work. I got a nice new desk the other day so my home office is coming together.

I don't see why evil house immediately changes an opinion like that

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Can you explain why exactly you lost confidence in your vote? What did unwnd do that was towny?

I like post, same wavelength

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which multiple people seem to be buying into? Or not? Idk

Where is anyone buying into this?

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UNVOTE: House

Dunno why I kept my vote on you.

What was your read on Kaz here?

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Based on how quickly the wagon formed on me and the deal with Gork and Dann, there's maybe one scum on my wagon? VOTE: House?

What do you mean re Gork and Dann and why do you conclude House is the scum?

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the worst replaces wake88

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Because if I thought you were actually trying to bring up an old post of mine where I was mostly disengaged in order to angle some sort of shade at me, that would not leave a very good impression.

It's not shade, I want to know if anyone actually thinks that so we can inform them of how dumb they are being

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Pooky I don't do that anymore you know that lol

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VOTE: KidAmn

This wagon should at least cw dwlee

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Pooky, do you actually think worst and unwnd could be scum? Because I'm hard TRing both of them off their interaction

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Low on time today but dislike the dwlee wagon here.

VOTE: kidann

Say more?

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Navi is an alt, yes?

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lmao I really thought you were scum, like deep in my bones

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you know my scum game is like lazy as fuck right?

That's not true lol, you almost brought back the sickest comeback scum win I've ever seen

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One time I said my name after leaving a voicemail

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VOTE: KidAmn

We should just hammer this slot.

We should at least get a claim here probably

Why not just wait for replacement if it's going to happen?

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..Who is getting replaced? I know wake got repped, but KidAmn was just prodded like 2 seconds ago, certainly not too much need for worry that they will get repped.

I like this post

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I sure do love to see people sheeping Pooky's cries of "partner!" when I townread someone and "OMGUS!" when I don't. FFS this game is so scum-led it hurts. Do you guys have any reads that aren't related to me?

Kaz seems the same as Dogs v Cats to me

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I think every time I've pushed someone on the "how do you actually believe that" tell they've just been wrong town

Maybe I'm misremembering though, it just doesn't seem super reliable. Now it isn't necessarily bad to kill those slots because that can indirectly advance win con by removing people that make it harder to scum hunt, but I just don't believe in it as a tell. See me pushing Titus in MBOS. She claimed me/norwee/t3 were the scumteam day one, said we were locktowning each other (we weren't), and said that she was completely convinced that was the team. I called BS because it was a ridiculous read (I townread norwee and t3 at the time, although the t3 townread was kind of flimsy and he ended up being evil), but Titus was town. Anyway long story short I don't think it's a great tell

dwlee looking towny

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{Dwlee, Dannflor, Worst, Unwnd}

This is my town list. Gamma is dead null as far as I'm concerned, and I agree a vote there is a waste of time right now.

The early Kaz wagon seems scum inflated imo, and the worst vote there is Meg, who also jumped onto the kid wagon.

VOTE: Meg

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From me? Because you know I can't read you lol

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The votes on you are either dumb or, in Dann's case, unclear

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It's not that I can't read you, I am just using a less optimal strategy that only works 75% of the time

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<3

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Kaz seems the same as Dogs v Cats to me

can you give more words on this

Kaz said a lot of stuff I thought was dumb that game and got scum read for it, including by me. If the argument Kaz is scum is "Kaz is saying stuff I think it's dumb" then I don't buy it

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Did gamma do anything much to relieve pressure? I know we have someone in the slot now but I'd like him to complete catch up

I agree, but I don't think votes speeds that up

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I agree a vote there is a waste of time right now.

do you not buy into the scum inactivity/replace-out tell-related stuff?

i also feel like gamma's catchup so far feels pretty lifeless in a bad way.

I think it's slightly scum indicative, but not enough that I'm not gunna let gamma post

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to me the candidness/frankness here feels like something less likely to come from mafia who wants to look like theyre scumhunting.

To me that reads like someone who doesn't have a good answer to the question

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Lol gamma I'm the one saying not to vote you

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Wdym entry? What was forced?

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I don't believe that's a real read

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Going to a wedding this weekend, really don't have the time or the energy to fight the wagon. "He's scummy when he's here" and then you just quote my iso with no real reasoning and people hop on like always. Think I'm retired after this game, me getting run up D1 every game is not fun for anyone.

The worst is still town, house maybe scum if Navi town but the vote swap seemed too blatant. Meg most likely scum on my wagon. Gamma ??, Still don't believe that read on me is real

VOTE: Navi

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VOTE: murdercat
I like this better than Pooky/Navi

Barely present, content when around seems forced, asks a bunch of loaded/leading questions

Takes a minute to fire up the neurons sometimes

I wouldn't vote you regardless of alignment because this is just asking for my attention either way

Oh.

Well, then.

VOTE: unwnd

You have my attention.

I don't understand what this post changed about your read

which multiple people seem to be buying into? Or not? Idk

Where is anyone buying into this?

UNVOTE: House

Dunno why I kept my vote on you.

What was your read on Kaz here?

Based on how quickly the wagon formed on me and the deal with Gork and Dann, there's maybe one scum on my wagon? VOTE: House?

What do you mean re Gork and Dann and why do you conclude House is the scum?

Low on time today but dislike the dwlee wagon here.

VOTE: kidann

Say more?

these are some key posts I think exemplify what I’m seeing, especially the first and last ones
I also did some meta doublchecking and I saw some similar stuff in the last scumgame on main I saw from Murdercat

What am I supposed to respond to? There's no content in your posts about me

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Ah yes "Say more?" the nail in the coffin for any scum player. Only scum would ask someone who has done nothing all game to explain something with no reasoning behind it

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Murdercat you can't retire cause then we can't make funny mini Kodak moments together anymore then

idk both white flag and this game are making me feel like I just don't have the time anymore. I think most players really underestimate how much activity factors into their reads. I thought if I just played a few games where I was less active people would get used to my new meta but I guess not.

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What am I supposed to respond to? There's no content in your posts about me

You could try explaining how your questions actually help, if they do

ok

[MURDERCAT]

Takes a minute to fire up the neurons sometimes

I wouldn't vote you regardless of alignment because this is just asking for my attention either way

Oh.

Well, then.

VOTE: unwnd

You have my attention.

I don't understand what this post changed about your read

In House's response he states he misread the post, but this was a very sudden shift compared to his previous posts.

Unwnd's aggressiveness right out of the gate is giving me townpings.

Pooky is obviously meming, but unwnd doesn't seem concerned about falling under scrutiny for going all serious sauce.

I like.

So it didn't make sense to me, and I wanted to understand what changed to determine if the read on unwnd was real.

which multiple people seem to be buying into? Or not? Idk

Where is anyone buying into this?

Because if I thought you were actually trying to bring up an old post of mine where I was mostly disengaged in order to angle some sort of shade at me, that would not leave a very good impression.

It's not shade, I want to know if anyone actually thinks that so we can inform them of how dumb they are being

UNVOTE: House

Dunno why I kept my vote on you.

What was your read on Kaz here?

This would have been nice to know because there was an explicit unvote from the biggest wagon at the same time a kaz wagon was increasing

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VoteCount 1.5

House (he) [ 3 ]

wake88, loftwing, dwlee99

Kazyan (they) [ 3 ]

gorkington, dannflor, house

Dwlee99 (they) [ 2 ]

megazumarill, murdercat

Unwnd (he) [ 1 ]

pookythemagicalbear,

Gorkington (he) [ 1 ]

kazyan

Not Voting [ 3 ]

kidAmn, Navi, Unwnd

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

I wondered if it was a subtle was to shift a wagon away from house towards kaz without an explicit vote on kaz.

Based on how quickly the wagon formed on me and the deal with Gork and Dann, there's maybe one scum on my wagon? VOTE: House?

What do you mean re Gork and Dann and why do you conclude House is the scum?

I don't really understand why this wouldn't be a useful question, nothing is explained in Kaz's post. It's effectively a naked vote.

Low on time today but dislike the dwlee wagon here.

VOTE: kidann

Say more?

Same here as well. I really dislike these sort of posts where they look like they aren't naked votes because there is content around them, but the content doesn't relate to the vote itself. It's lookbusyish and should be called out.

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Now I have 3 hours of meetings to go to, be back later

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Caught up over the night, but didn't write a post because it's annoying to do that at night, plus we got hit with difficult travel stuff due to weather so I was low energy. Wedding was fun though, thanks Gork.

I'm gunna do some iso reading into who pushed the worst, plus I want to reread the dwlee + LLD interaction.

Spoiler: Navi stuff

i think the tells of lack of interest in finding groupscum are like, starting to show. i'm also not married to this really.

I think I might have to drop my post restriction because it's taking up a bit too much time to compose posts in that format. I enjoy it but I don't have the rl time lately. I can't take twice as long engineering what I want to say.
This has more to do with me getting ten pages behind in a game than my alignment or the pressure. I planned to out day1 but keep the post restriction.

Any way this post is like. Epic smelly. Because there is a shitton of anachronistic logic in it. Positive interest in SK identity just doesn't countermand interest in groupscum identity. I think finding Kazyan scummy in general is way defensible and like house's reaction but this post is really disingenuous "willitstick" and the backpedaling makes it worse.

Or maybe just equally bad idk ambivalence is huge in duck town meta

I don’t exactly think I have the team nailed, though I feel like Meg+Loftwing is painfully obvious

Lets say I flip town today.
Who do you think is scum then?

This post feels off to me but I can't articulate it

I haven't read the thread, didn't know you were claimed tpr

My feedback on the game is please townbin house

And gork but that's obvious

Gamma seems towny tbh

Nothing super interesting but I value the reads more after isis claim. Gork was already pretty towny so that's not doing anything. All this really changes for me is I think it bumps House up somewhat in my reads.

I looked at vote stuff too, but this is mostly just for me to figure out what is worth rereading

Spoiler: Votes

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VoteCount 1.8

Kazyan (they) [ 5 ]

gorkington, dannflor, house, megazumarill, pookythemagicalbear

House (he) [ 1 ]

the worst

Dwlee99 (they) [ 1 ]

murdercat

KidAmn (he) [ 1 ]

dwlee99

Pookythemagicalbear (he) [ 1 ]

kazyan

Not Voting [ 4 ]

kidAmn,

Navi

, Unwnd, loftwing

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

Kaz was the first real wagon I think. Gork and Dann still very likely town to me. Pooky I think probably just kills me as scum also.

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VoteCount 1.9

Dwlee99 (they) [ 4 ]

murdercat, the worst, dannflor, pookythemagicalbear

Kazyan (they) [ 3 ]

gorkington, house, megazumarill

Pookythemagicalbear (he) [ 2 ]

kazyan,

Navi

KidAmn (he) [ 1 ]

dwlee99

Not Voting [ 3 ]

kidAmn, Unwnd, loftwing

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

The only interesting vote here is the worst moving, which isn't really that interesting given the worst is just town.

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VoteCount 1.11

KidAmn (he) [ 5 ]

dwlee99, megazumarill, murdercat, pookythemagicalbear, gorkington

Dwlee99 (they) [ 3 ]

the worst, dannflor, loftwing

Pookythemagicalbear (he) [ 2 ]

kazyan,

Navi

Kazyan (they) [ 1 ]

house

Not Voting [ 2 ]

kidAmn, Unwnd

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

This was a pressure wagon that went nowhere, so not particularly interesting either. Still find Meg's willingness to vote any top wagon suspicious.

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VoteCount 1.20

Navi

(she) [ 5 ]

dannflor, pookythemagicalbear, gorkington, murdercat, kazyan

Murdercat (he) [ 5 ]

the worst, gamma emerald, megazumarill, house, unwnd

Pookythemagicalbear (he) [ 1 ]

Navi

gamma emerald (he) [ 1 ]

dwlee99

Dwlee99 (they) [ 1 ]

loftwing

Not Voting [ 0 ]

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

This is going to be an important VC to look at as we get more info I think. My guess is that scum will be spread out across both top wagons, looking to jump to whichever one looks close to popping. Mental note to go back and look for that.

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VoteCount 1.22

Murdercat (he) [ 4 ]

the worst, gamma emerald, megazumarill, unwnd

The Worst (he) [ 3 ]

pookythemagicalbear,

Navi

, dannflor

Navi

(she) [ 2 ]

gorkington, murdercat

gamma emerald (he) [ 1 ]

dwlee99

Dwlee99 (they) [ 1 ]

Lady Lambdadelta

Lady Lambdadelta (she) [ 1 ]

kazyan

Not Voting [ 1 ]

house

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

Pooky, Dann, and Kaz all move here. Pooky and Dann go to the worst, Kaz goes to LLD.

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VoteCount 1.24

Navi

(she) [ 4 ]

murdercat, dannflor, kazyan, house

The Worst (he) [ 4 ]

pookythemagicalbear,

Navi

, gorkington, unwnd

Murdercat (he) [ 3 ]

the worst, gamma emerald, megazumarill

gamma emerald (he) [ 1 ]

dwlee99

Dwlee99 (they) [ 1 ]

Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting [ 0 ]

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

Kaz is moving around a lot here, mental note to look at those votes. Navi jumps back up thanks to Kaz and House, Pooky and Dann stay on the worst.

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VoteCount 1.27

The Worst (he) [ 3 ]

pookythemagicalbear, gorkington, dannflor

Navi

(she) [ 3 ]

murdercat, kazyan, house

Lady Lambdadelta (she) [ 3 ]

dwlee99, the worst, megazumarill

Dwlee99 (they) [ 2 ]

Lady Lambdadelta,

Navi

Murdercat (he) [ 2 ]

gamma emerald, unwnd

Not Voting [ 0 ]

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

LLD wagon starts to rise, more confirmation the worst is town because there is no reason to jump to a small wagon like that when you are under pressure.

The TV screen flickers and changes

VoteCount 1.28

The Worst (he) [ 5 ]

pookythemagicalbear, gorkington, dannflor, house, gamma emerald

Lady Lambdadelta (she) [ 3 ]

dwlee99, the worst, megazumarill

Dwlee99 (they) [ 2 ]

Lady Lambdadelta,

Navi

Navi

(she) [ 1 ]

murdercat

Murdercat (he) [ 1 ]

unwnd

Not Voting [ 1 ]

kazyan

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

she doesn't engage w anything that's happening because if she's going down there's no point in putting out more associatives. putting me to e-1 as a TPR claim without evaluating anything else (incl. lack of meaningful counterwagon) isn't a townie.

I

think

this is the first place the worst hard claimed, but I could be wrong I just did CTRL-F for a few things. What's interesting to me here is that the pressure doesn't turn towards LLD who is the next biggest wagon and instead ends up on Navi. Why does Dwlee move to Navi for example? Mental note to reread this and see if LLD is scum with friends or if Navi was just a much easier target (and whether that implicates dwlee).

The screen goes black as the sun continues to set behind the buildings. The sun is maybe the only thing here that is normal. 13 strangers look at each other, not really sure what to do. An agreement had been reached but no one was really sure what was going to happen next.

The screen flickers back to life, showing the following

THERE HAS BEEN AN ELIMINATION

VoteCount 1.29 FINAL

Navi

(she) [ 7 ]

murdercat, dwlee99 kazyan, megazumarill, the worst, unwnd, gamma emerald

The Worst (he) [ 5 ]

gorkington, dannflor, pookythemagicalbear. lady lambdadelta,

Navi

Lady Lambdadelta (she) [ 1 ]

house

Not Voting [ 0 ]

Navi, vanilla townie has been eliminated.

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I didn’t want to do this now, but better now than never.
I’m a parity cop (the two targets per night variety, with a caveat I can’t target someone twice in a row), and my N1 checks were Kazyan and unwnd. They came back as unaligned. I see no reason to doubt Kazyan being town, so unwnd has to be scum. tw also doesn’t look great for claiming a protection on scum.
VOTE: unwnd
I told you you’d regret pushing the votes onto me.

Why those targets?

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Name completed mafia games where scum have opted for a no kill or explicitly are given the option to.

Pooky is right, it is common to no kill in mylo and I've never seen it be compulsive. Normal wording is usually "you may kill" or something to that effect.

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How nice of you to slither in when the target’s not on your back anymore!

I have work dude

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I think we need TW to claim if he is JK or not because if yes we kill unwnd

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theres no way TW changes his claim to jailkeeper that would be beyond wild

Did TW explicitly claim doc? Or just protective

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I think we need TW to claim if he is JK or not because if yes we kill unwnd

TW claimed doctor

Didn't you townread me anyways? What

If TW explicitly claimed doc then we choose between gamma and kaz, but if TW is JK and we got no kill and parity cop result on you then I think we kill you. But it sounds like I just missed TW actually claiming doc.

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If we flip Kaz and Kaz is town, do we flip unwnd or gamma in that case?

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If we aren't risking giving scum gamma 2 free town kills for the claim then I don't see why we wouldn't give gamma another day.

[MURDERCAT]

no lol that's dumb

[MURDERCAT]

no lol that's dumb

why is it dumb lol

do u think the scum r just going to let our claimed doc and claimed parity cop live to fuck with us?

Because if you think Gamma is town then you should lim within the 50% scum group.
If you think there's a good chance gamma could be scum then he claimed to buy time and hopefully 2:1, in which case you don't give him more time by limming elsewhere.

What do you do tomorrow when Gamma says "I was RB'd"?
What do you do tomorrow when Gamma gives a result?

At some point we have to lim Gamma or his targets so what do we gain with delaying it?

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what if scum dont have a roleblocker and they need to kill gamma to avoid giving us more results

Then you have to assume TW is lying right? I give Shea enough credit that I think that if there is a parity cop and a doc in the game scum has some counter.

It's also just math though. Assuming 1/3 of the trio are scum we have a 33% chance to hit scum inside the trio. If we go outside that group given the same assumption then it's 2/9 = 22% chance.

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I don't know I don't think you can compare multiball

But fine, say we go outside and gamma does claim RB'd like unwnd predicts, do we lim gamma then?
If gamma gives results do we test them then?

pedit no lim is interesting to give gamma a night without committing, that interests me more. We probably end up no limming in mylo so it could be beneficial to do it now instead

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: No lim

I think this is a good compromise

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Can I ask why we're no eliminating if we can kill Kazyan to test Gamma partially?

Like if Gamma is telling the truth, we want to kill Kazyan.

If Gamma is lying... we may still want to kill Kazyan, but we learn faster if the worst becomes town because of his doctor...

This was my logic, but no one wanted to go with it

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If the decision is between no lim and kill outside trip then we should no lim because we probably will end up doing it later anyway

[MURDERCAT]

seems risky, aren't there better options?

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Would they? Seems like there's not much benefit to cc

[MURDERCAT]

1:1 trade benefits town.

If investigative ever flips then that's a mod confirmed cc, no reason to do it before then while your role has value

[MURDERCAT]

...

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lim sounds good in theory, can we get 7 votes on one of them?

[MURDERCAT]

fine with me

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Have we played together gork or have you just read a lot of games?

[MURDERCAT]

lol holy shit
I did not know that

[MURDERCAT]

something like a readlist

I can do this, but I need to read some interactions more closely before I do.
The way I see it is there are a number of interactions that are defining the game and it's probably solvable if we start by solving those interactions.

[MURDERCAT]

Hey everyone, I'm going to catch up tomorrow morning but looking at the vc I'm down to vote Kaz

[MURDERCAT]

I am here and will be posting today once I wake up a bit. Sorry I wasn't able to post on day 3 because it ended so quickly but I had a work trip so I wasn't able to get to the game until today

[MURDERCAT]

VT

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Spoiler: votes

THERE HAS BEEN AN ELIMINATION

VoteCount 1.29 FINAL

Navi

(she) [ 7 ]

murdercat, dwlee99

kazyan

, megazumarill, the worst, unwnd,

Gamma Emerald

The Worst (he) [ 5 ]

gorkington,

Dannflor

, pookythemagicalbear.

lady lambdadelta

, navi

lady lambdadelta

(she) [ 1 ]

house

Not Voting [ 0 ]

The screen goes black again. A van, painted all purple--even its windows and hubcaps--pulls up, and two man jump out and quickly shove

Navi

into the van and then it departs as quickly as it came.

Lettering blazes on the television, lighting up the night as the evening slowly drifts to dusk.

Navi, vanilla townie has been eliminated.

VoteCount 2.9 FINAL

No Elimination [ 7 ]

dwlee99, murdercat,

kazyan

, unwnd, house, megazumarill,

Gamma Emerald

kazyan

(they) [ 2 ]

the worst,

lady lambdadelta

,

Murdercat (he) [ 1 ]

gorkington

Not Voting [ 2 ]

pookythemagicalbear,

Dannflor

It is now night. Night actions are due (expired on 2021-10-12 10:25:31)

VoteCount 3.3 FINAL

Gamma Emerald

(he) [ 6 ]

dwlee99,

kazyan

, unwnd, the worst, house,

Dannflor

kazyan

(they) [ 2 ]

megazumarill, gorkington

MegAzumarill (doesn't care) [ 1 ]

Gamma Emerald

Not Voting [ 3 ]

pookythemagicalbear,

Dannflor

, murdercat,

With 11 alive it takes 6 votes to be executed.

Gamma Emerald, town parity cop has been eliminated.

[MURDERCAT]

House should claim now

[MURDERCAT]

You said you would claim in popcorn, I'm popcorning you

[MURDERCAT]

Why would I know that?

[MURDERCAT]

I see your soft now but if you expect me to see that in a catchup without previous knowledge of your claim I don't know what to tell you

[MURDERCAT]

?

I didn't know you were BP then...

[MURDERCAT]

Are we finishing mass claim or should I let TW self hammer

[MURDERCAT]

Is there a third opinion?

[MURDERCAT]

The only reason to continue the day is to continue mass claim, if that's not needed then fine but I don't see why we shouldn't give an hour to see if anyone cares

[MURDERCAT]

It was not clear which you preferred actually

[MURDERCAT]

How the fuck is me being mafia ascetic more likely than scum just having a roleblocker, wtf?
Kill house who is literally scum claiming either way

[MURDERCAT]

Actually they need a roleblocker and an ascetic

Why

[MURDERCAT]

The screen flickers and turns purple.

Does this mean shit lol

[MURDERCAT]

8:3:1 where scum has a roleblocker and ascetic is balanced?
Isnt it more likely house is ascetic cult leader instead of bulletproof?

[MURDERCAT]

House gets a kill only when he has a recruit right, isn't that enough missing kills plus TW rolestop?

[MURDERCAT]

Ok fuck it I'll just out

I am a mafia ascetic traitor

You are all being dumb af trying to hand cult a win, you really think there's just 3 group scum and cult in this 13p game?

[MURDERCAT]

I don't know, I assume so

[MURDERCAT]

Eliminating me is a terrible decision

[MURDERCAT]

you will lose because of it

[MURDERCAT]

You should just eliminate house today and then cult can never win.

And then you just have to find 1 mafia to win

VOTE: House

[MURDERCAT]

Your understanding of the situation is incorrect, and as a result you will lose

[MURDERCAT]

I don't think I can say more while still playing to my wincon, so up to you to decide what to do

[MURDERCAT]

i mean hes not going to admit our theory is correct?

According to it mafia has a reasonable chance to win, why wouldn't I?

[MURDERCAT]

Just vote Mcat and roleblocker block house

you will lose

[MURDERCAT]

of course you are, you will win

[MURDERCAT]

House isn't likely to be blocked

[MURDERCAT]

you will lose and cult will win, I promise

[MURDERCAT]

Roleblocker will block cult.

nope

[MURDERCAT]

If we vote out house, mafia wins

nope

[MURDERCAT]

it's like you need to just be straight with us

I literally don't think I can due to site rules

[MURDERCAT]

Because I still have to win after today, not just avoid being hammered right now. I don't see a path to win if I reveal everything, ergo doing it just so town doesn't throw would be against site rules and unfair to House.

[MURDERCAT]

Vote house, no one dies tonight, try to lim my partner. That is the only chance town has to win

[MURDERCAT]

GG, thanks Shea

Last game for a while, see you all on the discord
Sorry I never have as much time as I hope anymore