Mini 2241: The Neighborhood -- ENDGAME

[Loftwing]

Why am I in this red bird costume..

Anyway, hello there!

[Loftwing]

The only players I know a bit are House, Dwlee, and Jake/Loftwing.

VOTE: kazyan

So you list those of us you know, but vote an unknown?

I feel neglected.

VOTE: House

Here's a vote, on the house.

[Loftwing]

Unless you were on before ~2020, nope.

[Loftwing]

Townlean

:
House (desire to solve)
Megazumarill (Pooky reaction)

Null

:
Pooky
Everyone else

Who are you people?

:
Gork
Navi
Wake88

I'm Particularly Confused About

:
unwnd (I'm not digging the 'I don't care' vibe, but I'm also getting flashbacks to T3's replace-out in Not Quite Normal Multiball where the scummy thing really was just a joke)

Scumlean

:
Loftwing (both posts feel stiff. P-EDIT: Three posts now, but you know what I mean)

..You can make a readlist 69 posts in? lol

Nice.

[Loftwing]

The TV screen flickers and changes

VoteCount 1.2

Unwnd (he) [ 2 ]

pookythemagicalbear, house

House (he) [ 2 ]

wake88, loftwing

Dwlee99 (they) [ 1 ]

megazumarill

Pookythemagicalbear (he) [ 1 ]

kazyan

Wake88 (he) [ 1 ]

gorkington

Not Voting [ 6 ]

Murdercat, dwlee99, kidAmn, Navi, Dannflor, Unwnd

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-10-03 20:10:31)

Shea that's literally just Slenderman.

[Loftwing]

Unless you were on before ~2020, nope.

Your vote makes no sense in regards to the posts you quoted, considering there is no familiarity, there

Why the vote?

Don't worry, it's on the House

(On the house usually refers to something paid for by the establishment providing the service, usually beer from a bar.
Also, your name is House!)

[Loftwing]

Stump Unwnd with Calculus.

[Loftwing]

Mr. Rogers, what the FUCK does this mean?

In other news, I have no idea what is going on.

[Loftwing]

I guess the best way to organize my thoughts is to give a readslist.

Town Town

loftwing (he)
House (he)
Kazyan (they)
Dwlee99 (they)
Dannflor (he)
Gorkington (he)
Unwnd (he)
Pookythemagicalbear (he)

Scoomb Broomb

nulland™

Murdercat (he)
KidAmn (he)
Navi (she)
Dannflor (he)
MegAzumarill (doesn't care)
Wake88 (he)

[Loftwing]

I actually think that having Dann in both lists is helpful to know where the Nullpoint is.

is it obvious that i'm bullshitting my way through a simple mistake? I hope not.

[Loftwing]

unwnd surely you've seen people make pre-emptive reads lists before?

what specifically is bothering you about them

what conclusions do you draw from these posts being out of place and pre-emptive

They don't feel earned or really have a lot of thought put into them. I maintain about what I said about Kaz and got the completely opposite opinion Navi did lol

Are there any particular readlists that you don't like right now?

[Loftwing]

Sometimes I feel like my existance is a slayers gambit

I've heard that Jake The Wolfie is essentially Slayer's gambit declined, a common response to Slayer's Gambit, where you simply axicute the player attempting Slayer's Gambit.

[Loftwing]

UNVOTE: House

Dunno why I kept my vote on you.

[Loftwing]

UNVOTE: House

Dunno why I kept my vote on you.

It's because you like me, isn't it?

You can tell me. I'll keep your secret.

House do be vibin doe, especially vibin at the top of my readlist

[Loftwing]

Why is Kazyan evil?

Well, you see, Kazyan rolled scum this game.

I would like their question answered. I did not see much of why KrazyArt is being voted.

[Loftwing]

Dannflour, could you explain to me why you're voting KrazyArt?

[Loftwing]

Navi, is this a PostRestriction, or is this something you're choosing to do?

[Loftwing]

You were posting in an atypical way that most players don't post in.

[Loftwing]

I'm kinda happy that everyone's getting my screenname right so far, typos excluded because they're just typos. Some people swap the middle two letters and say "Kayzan".

Do you mind if I keep calling you KrazyArt

[Loftwing]

Where did this talk of Serial Killers come from? I looked up and saw that Pooky mentioned them.. did anyone else mention them before that?

[Loftwing]

im sticking with my reflexive day cult leader claim

Ooh, tell me more about this day cult.

[Loftwing]

I'm sorry that I haven't been very serious in this game, I've been devoting most of my energy in another game. I'd be willing to answer any questions you might have to ask me now, and I'll try to answer them satisfactory.

[Loftwing]

boop

Mr. Rogers, this is not a question. Please do not boop me again.

Also explain what is on your flickering TV screen. I do not understand.

[Loftwing]

VOTE: Dwlee

Seems legit.

[Loftwing]

I honestly don't know what to do in this game.

I feel... so.. empty.

[Loftwing]

Lol at signing my post.

It's like you're a hydra of House and Wake or something

[Loftwing]

..Who is getting replaced? I know wake got repped, but KidAmn was just prodded like 2 seconds ago, certainly not too much need for worry that they will get repped.

[Loftwing]

I have decided to do an ISO of the top 4 most postery players, which at this time are Haus, Pooky, Gorkington, and Dweelee, mainly to get a foothold in the game.
For reference, the numbers in square brackets indicate the actual post numbers, not the ISO post numbers.
Note: I did not do the ISOs in this order (I did them PHGD), but I am presenting them in this order in an attempt to keep them separated.

Spoiler: Haus

Haus, do you just like.. never go to sleep?
[#44 - #66]
Haus starts off with a vote on kidamn and a rather unfortunate confession that they liked wake being in the game. Oh dear.
He then goes on to townread Unwnd, and some bad vibes from MegA.
Then, a 180 on Unwnd by voting him. I don't particularly see why he did that.
He does some interacting with Unwnd, which I think is +town, both the interaction and the contents within.
Not much else here. Moving on.

[#79 - #316]
[Like serious Haus where in the world do you live? The South Pole?]
#200 - >w< or, wait, I'm a bird here, so I guess it would be >v<. Either way, pretend I'm blushing in a flattered and homosexual manner.

You can't convince a scum that they're scum.

This like in particular sounds like Haus is berating a SnakeOil Salesman, and I found that amusing.

Haus flips his read on Urwnd again, but then again the first read flip was due to an error
I'm not sure if #100 is actual or emulated surprise, but I don't think that Haus would be a member of a cultlike faction here.
I don't see the Haus v Unwnd early game interaction as particularly performative. I already gave my thoughts on it before, so let's move on.
Overall, I'm getting town vibes from Haus with their interaction with Dannflour, Pooky, and Gorkington.
That KrazyArt vote goes unexplained, which is a little odd IMO. It feels.. misplaced, especially with what he quoted (KrazyArt self-voting).

I'm intentionally changing my style by experimenting to see which parts of my old play I can keep and which parts are best for both myself and the health of the game state for me to change, so I fully expect to catch votes & mislims while I develop "the new me".

As a suspected neurodivergent, I vibed well with this. Like, when I was trying out new things (on a different forum?), this was 100% my thought process. Of course, I caught some suspicion because I was being too carefree or whatever, but regardless I felt like this deserved to be here.
Now, I found something else odd about something that Haus did. When Pooky was memeing on Haus' scumplay, I noticed how Haus tried to prove that he wasn't a bad scum player by trying to show very old games. This feels in-congruent with him trying to change his play. However, this is rather an unfair criticism to make of him, because he was banned for about 6 years or so.

[#456 - #542]
Hm, the first few posts here are pretty off tone from what I've read so far. I agree with the contents of them, but tonally they feel different.
Not much to say other than the last post.
A... KidAmn vote? To kill? ..What?
There are a few issues I have with that. The first one is that there is no explanation for that vote. It just comes out of nowhere, on a player Haus hadn't been scumreading. Secondly, there's a little bloodlust here, which is problematic given that, for anyone reading Haus' ISO (Who would do such a thing?) he had no read on KidAmn.

I'm going to give Haus a townlean here. I don't like the more recent stuff from him.

Spoiler: Pooky

[#4 - #40]
Pooky's early game is interesting. They seem to be softly poking at Unwnd here, but nothing really comes of it. I don't see any ill intent here.

[#122 - #141]
First, #131 explains why they seemed to be poking at Unwnd specifically in the previous segment rather than a more general all-rounded interaction with everyone. Pooky scumreads Unwnd in this specific post. I do quite like the idea, but I'm not sure if his methodology is sound.

Next, Pooky is questioned on his methodology by Haus, and Pooky responds in #138. I don't believe this adequately satisfies Haus' objection to his methodology, mainly because the way Pooky was trolling seemed to be calling Unwnd scum and whatnot.

Not much else here.

[#229 - #269]
Gonna toss in the scumreading of Unwnd by Pooky here, I don't particularly care but I feel obligated to mention it.
Pooky also scumreads KrazyArt here as well, I think it needs more explaining. The only explanation I can divine is that Pooky thinks KrazyArt is.. bussing Haus? But that can't be right, because in the very next post they very strongly townread Haus. I'm very confused here.
The rest of this section is Pooky going on an irrelevant tangent of Haus' poor scumplay in another game. I don't care. Moving on.

[#285 - #331]
In #290 Pooky states that their preferred executions are KrazyArt, then if that flips scum either wake (who is now the worst) or Unwnd. Now, Unwnd I can understand (Pooky was already scumreading Unwnd), but the worst? Where did that come from? There was very little that built up to this, and he just tosses it onto the table like it's nothing.
Please go into more detail about this, Pooky.

[#407 - #533]
Starting off strong with a vote on Dweelee. He later justifies it with something I'll interpret as "Dweelee is worth more in interaction an KrazyArt is". That seems to hold up, but it's a little.. thin. I would've liked more here.
Pooky also justified it sooner with something that boils down to "I don't want to die at night so I can play with the worst more." I can only assume that this was meant to be a joke, because that is a weak justification.

Pooky re-affirms his scumread of Unwnd and the worst by lightly poking at them. No justification here for the scumread of the worst, though.
He asks for more votes on Dweelee to (supposedly) build pressure. I honestly believe that Pooky does want to pressure Dweelee's slot here.
Switching over to the kidamn wagon now, not much justification is given (other than sheeping Murdercat). Pretty meh.
There isn't really much else here. It's mainly fluff.


I give Pooky a townlean here, but I definitely want to see more from them than what I've already read.

Spoiler: Gorkington

I have decided to make this entire report Comic Sans, both because it's funny, and to nae-nae on Mr. Rogers.
[#5 & #86]
What a rather.. brash opening from Gork. Not much to say here.

[#106 - #282]
[Gorkington has made his posts very easy to read by over-quoting every post he responds to, and it isn't annoying to need to see what the other player is saying, or who they even are. Thank you, Gorkington ]
Now, #177 is interesting, and something I disagree with. I think Gorkington is wrong in this post about pretty much everything, but I don't think he's scum for doing it.
I do agree with #262 (the convo is referring to Pooky doing some trolling on Haus' scumgame.)
Overall, Gorkington seems more laid back and uninterested in the game at this time. I would hazard to guess that this is more of a scum trait, as scum tend to disengage with what goes on, mainly to avoid drawing attention onto themselves. Please inform me if this is incorrect, anyone reading this.

[#335 - #369]
Gorkington interacts with the worst. I find this interaction odd and it pings me as scummy. It feels like something that scum would do if they didn't care about the answers they were given. It's also a bit snarky, but that's not relevant.
The rest of it doesn't look really good either. I get bad juju from Sans Undertale

[#422 - #522]
There's not much impressive stuff in here. I couldn't find anything, anyway.

Overall, I think Gorkington is a scumlean, possible closer to a scumread. I am not impressed with what I've seen from him.

Spoiler: Dweelee

[#84 - #101]
A little Haus poking here from Dweelee. Short and Spimple

[#199 - #217]
Dweelee opens up with asking why players were scumreading KrazyArt.. but doesn't follow up. I would expect a town player to at least follow up with something like asking specific players why they were scumreading KrazyArt, but there isn't any of that.
The rest seems to be a lackadaisical approach to the game, not much commitment to what's going on.

[#260 - #280]
#275 is a hunch that most of the current wagons were pure.
[

KrazyArt

with Gorkington, Dannflour, Haus, MegA, and Pooky]
[

Haus

with wake (the worst), and KrazyArt]
I don't particularly see it. There isn't much explanation for why they might be mostly pure, which I would expect at least a little bit more of why that might be the case. I don't think that scum would make a post like this, though.
Does a light skim of KrazyArt's ISO, and does what I'd interpret as lightly townleans them.

[#329 - #443]
I, uh, don't like Dweelee's shallow reasoning for scum!KidAmn. Like, yes you could answer "Why is KidAmn scum?" with "He is in the PoE", but that is never a satisfactory answer.
To quote the worst (who definitely deserves an ISO of them done later when I have more patience and less time):

it feels a little slimey

Well, later Dweelee justifies scum!KidAmn with something better that definitely does deserve more pushing. Good for Dweelee.
I disagree with #392, you did look passive aggressive there. I don't think it indicates alignment that well, so why would you care?
Also! It appears that this post is an attempt to throw some shade at the worst here, by indicating how you have failed to townread them despite your desire to.

So, #424. I want names. I do not get names. If you're at least sure enough to make this post, you should be able to at least name someone you think might be scum on the wagon.

#429 feels a little incongruous with #392, mainly because there isn't as much hesitance to call the worst town in the former (although, to his credit, he does label the worst as probably town, rather than just town)

I probably agree, with the caveat that threatening scum are present but not active in advancing the game. Dannflor is also the deepwolf but that's not super relevant right now.

I'm not sure what you mean by present but not active. Who is that?

100% the best question to ask here. I love it.
Overall, not sure what to think here. I'm not vibing well with Dweelee here, I guess.

[#465]
Not much to say here, a dead period came before and after it. Skip.

[#493 - #517]
Not really riveting what I'm seeing here. C-.

Overall, Dweelee is pinging scum to me, with some town pings thrown in there as well. I would throw them in light scumlean for now.

[Loftwing]

kidamn can you make a post please.

Or, in other words:

Make a kiDamn post already.

[Loftwing]

Yes ofc. I actually learned the right hand for lost woods on the piano which should help

LoZ Lost Woods?
Which one?

[Loftwing]

Saria's song, yea. Just an easy version cause I can't play piano (as evidenced by me not knowing the left hand cause I can't use both at once right now)

Clearly this is a conspiracy to hide the fact that you only have one hand!

[Loftwing]

Saria's song, yea. Just an easy version cause I can't play piano (as evidenced by me not knowing the left hand cause I can't use both at once right now)

Clearly this is a conspiracy to hide the fact that you only have one hand!

Spoiler: very stupid joke

No wonder you look so depressed in your pfp. You look so sad looking at your one hand

[Loftwing]

I sure do love to see people sheeping Pooky's cries of "partner!" when I townread someone and "OMGUS!" when I don't. FFS this game is so scum-led it hurts. Do you guys have any reads that aren't related to me?

I have at least 4 of them which are unrelated to you. They're in my semi-ketchup semi-ISO post.

[Loftwing]

Holy fuck I really need to change my profile picture

I could make you a pfp if you'd want.

I'm a little weary telling you to PM me what you want, I'd get that cleared through Da Mod™ first, or you could just tell me in-thread.

[Loftwing]

To be honest, we won't get anywhere fast if KidAmn does a noshow here and gets repped.

[Loftwing]

KrazyArt, would you like some emotional support?

I may not be able to help achieve your goals of the perfect Day 1, but I can hug you.

[Loftwing]

I don't get this SK nonsense. What? Why? I know that some people said earlier that Pooky was probably an SK (KrazyArt?) but I'm not sure where they would have gotten that idea from.

[Loftwing]

Haus! Hello!

Care to look at my analysis of your and 3 lucky other players' ISOs?

[Loftwing]

Who are you?

[Loftwing]

Probably not.

[Loftwing]

that sounds wise. if i made a list of players in this game to be paranoid of, i think pooky would be surprisingly close to the top.

my impressions are probably somewhere around here

Dannflor (he)
Navi (she)
Pookythemagicalbear (he)
Gorkington (he)
The Worst (he)
MegAzumarill (doesn't care)
Unwnd (he)
Murdercat (he)
Dwlee99 (they)
Kazyan (they)
House (he)
KidAmn (he)
loftwing (he)

pedit: hmm idk. i'd say you're polarised towards town, but you're also really good at being energetic and it's kind of easy to forget that you can roll scum sometimes, you know?

So are you most paranoid or least paranoid of me?

I want to clear this up because
#1: I think some of the other players here are mistaking this as a readlist and
#2: You don't label your Axes.

[Loftwing]

Ok so KidAmn's slot is basically unkillable today.

[Loftwing]

Two-thirds of the players are in shade of null

50 shades of Null

[Loftwing]

I find Gamma's Ketchup to be alright.

maybe im biased that i want to play with gamma in a game but eh

[Loftwing]

We cannot divine the intentions of any SK here, should one exist.

May I remind you that there is no public evidence that one exists.

[Loftwing]

Hey Pooky, are you still scumreading The Worst? If so, why?

[Loftwing]

Wait a second, you passed by all my hard work!

[Loftwing]

Helli Haus. How are you?

[Loftwing]

Ok so KidAmn's slot is basically unkillable today.

attempt at buddying failed

It was more of "Hey Gamma! Remember me?"

[Loftwing]

To be honest, we won't get anywhere fast if KidAmn does a noshow here and gets repped.

I don't get this SK nonsense. What? Why? I know that some people said earlier that Pooky was probably an SK (KrazyArt?) but I'm not sure where they would have gotten that idea from.

Ok so KidAmn's slot is basically unkillable today.

I.. don't know why you quoted these. I am having a hard time connecting them with anything else that was said before.

[Loftwing]

if kaz flips scum i'm willing to kill either of wake/unwnd next

Could you go into more detail about this?

[Loftwing]

if kaz flips scum i'm willing to kill either of wake/unwnd next

Could you go into more detail about this?

281 felt like soft defense of Kaz without explicitly defending him.

unwnd's comment about someone beating him to the punch voting Kaz who he suspected also felt off.


why are you bringing up posts from like 3 days ago?

Because the scumread on Wake came out of the blue left field located nowhere.

[Loftwing]

if kaz flips scum i'm willing to kill either of wake/unwnd next

Could you go into more detail about this?

Heyo where are your strongest reads at?

Not really feeling much right now. My mind hasn't changed much, my reads have pretty much been

Haus/Pooky Townlean

Gorkington/Dweelee Scumlean

I dunno if that's just because I haven't been paying attention, or maybe this game isn't engaging for me, but either way most players are null here.

[Loftwing]

Why am I scum? And with gork?

More of both of you are individually suspicious after thoroughly looking through your ISOs

[Loftwing]

after thoroughly looking through your ISOs

show your work?

Like really how did you miss this.

[Loftwing]

I don't really think either of your scumleans are likely to be wagoned today - how do you feel about people's voting lately?

I'll probably sheep Haus or Pooky or do another ISO on the top wagons right now.

[Loftwing]

Counterpoint though your reasons for suspecting me are bad

And you contradict yourself by saying things like "scum don't make this post" (or something idk it's been a couple days) and then scumreading me

Thank you for reminding me that I do indeed have a lack of circuitry connected directly to my brain / replacing my brain entirely, and that very fact forces me to be indecisive and/or overall compromising logical contradictions poorly.

[Loftwing]

after thoroughly looking through your ISOs

show your work?

I don't know how to respond to "I don't understand..". I don't know how to understand for you.

[Loftwing]

@Gorkington
I don't know how to respond to "I don't understand..". I don't know how to understand for you.

Oh wait, wrong person

Uhh Fixed

[Loftwing]

Honestly if you put my butt to the fire, all you'd get is me screaming in Non-AI pain.

[Loftwing]

Jake would be very happy to hammer you. His PR department disagrees, but then again he threw them out a window.

[Loftwing]

I think the main problem we have here is that no one has tied themselves to the back of any one wagon, which is worrying because it means that we haven't formed some sort of townblock.