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[fua]

First.

[fua]

I for one welcome our new opossum overlords.

VOTE: HawaiianPizza

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VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Sure, I'll buy this and put some pressure here. I think trying to be quirky is weird too.

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VOTE: Osetr

You're not funny. Please don't play again.

[fua]

Also, no using the word 'lynch', please.

[fua]

I think Osetr is town.

fua is really obvious scum.

No, I'm not. You just haven't played with me before.

[fua]

Also, frankly rude to tell someone new not to play again.

Anyone, for that matter

New or not.

His content is disturbing and disrespectful towards basically everyone here who's actually trying to play the game. I wouldn't say it if he was intentionally going out of his way to break the rules.

[fua]

Wasn't.*

[fua]

DUHHH GAY!!!! DUHHH MAY!!???!!1 GAY!!!!! IS THAT ALL YOU SHITPOSTING FUCKS CAN SAY!!??? DURR GAY GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY HOMOSEXUAL I FEEL LIKE IM IN A FUCKING ASYLUM FULL OF DEMENTIA RIDDEN OLD PEOPLE THAT CAN DO NOTHING BUT REPEAT THE SAME FUCKING WORDS ON LOOP LIKE A FUCKING BROKEN RECORD GAY GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY ONIONS ONIONS ONIONS SNOYY ONIONS LOL ONIONS!!! HAY!!!1 BOOMER!! LE ZOOMER!!!! I AM BOOMER!!!! NO ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIES ZOOMER GOING ZOOMIES AHGHGH I FUCKING HATE THE INTERNET SO GODDAMN MUCH FUCKJK YOU SHITPOST I HONEST TO GOD HOPE YOUR MOTHER CHOKES ON HER OWN FECES IN HELL YOU COCKSUCKER VUT OHHH I KNOWM MY POST IS GAY ISNT IT?? GAY GAY GAT GAYU HOMOSEXUAL GAY HOMOSEXUAL REDDIT REDDIT GAY ZOOM GAY ONIONS REDDIT HOMOSEXUAL!!!!

@osetr

Like fua pointed out, mafiascum doesn't permit using l*nch anymore.
The default replacement had been "eliminate" so far

i dont care

[fua]

Also, frankly rude to tell someone new not to play again.

Anyone, for that matter

New or not.

His content is disturbing and disrespectful towards basically everyone here who's actually trying to play the game. I wouldn't say it if he was intentionally going out of his way to break the rules.

So are you voting him because he's disrespectful or because you think he's mafia?

Both!

[fua]

Somehow my instincts were correct. As they always are.

[fua]

I think Osetr is town.

fua is really obvious scum.

No, I'm not.

You just haven't played with me before.

uh... so what did you think jacket was scumreading you for when he shouldn't?

Oh, I was making fun of Osetr’s same comment. I too would like to know why Jacket is scumreading me.

[fua]

VOTE: redtea

E-1.

[fua]

VOTE: Jacket

Obvious scum here.

[fua]

I think House’s claim of the real vig being able to CC with a bullet will be proof enough when Day 2 comes. Keep in mind that there

is

a vigilante or someone who shoots people in this game one way or another.

[fua]

Whatever happens, we shouldn’t eliminate redtea. By nature of their actual role, unless they and the informed townie are scum together, then they’re essentially confirmed town unless they get shot by the real vigilante overnight, no? I feel like anyone trying to push for them to die because of their ‘lack of utility’ just wants to see a townie die to begin with, and strikes me as incredibly suspicious. Not to mention that redtea doesn’t even have to shoot until we’re sure we’ve bagged a mafia.

VOTE: Three

Your insistence on killing off someone who claimed a PR comes off as weird to me. Maybe the mafia has two power roles and you’re afraid of getting shot at night.

[fua]

If we don’t believe the claim, then let the real vigilante shoot redtea at night. If redtea is still alive, that means that they’re a confirmed townie or we just found two scum covering for each other.

[fua]

My gut says that Cool Cookie and redtea are both town, though. Dunno why two scum would out themselves immediately.

[fua]

If we don’t believe the claim, then let the real vigilante shoot redtea at night. If redtea is still alive, that means that they’re a confirmed townie or we just found two scum covering for each other.

Or... and I'm just spitballing here... there may be no vig...

If there’s no vigilante, why would the traitor be bulletproof? Wouldn’t that mean cool cookie and redtea are both lying about the claim?

Unless you’re saying that it’s so mafia can’t actually kill the traitor, in which case what you’re saying is possible. I still don’t think Three’s posts are from someone who’s town-aligned.

[fua]

Fua, do you really believe I'm the only player in this game who insisted we shoot redtea?

Following the claim? You’ve definitely been the most insistent on it.

[fua]

Ooooooh
Would 1 goon, 1 pr, and 1 traitor pr be balanced

That's my guess.

It would effectively make your role borderline negative utility.

This is where I'm at.

If people genuinely believe that we have a Vig that can only kill minimum zero/maximum one scum that otherwise only kills town PRs, why exactly is this slot still breathing if some people don't even believe the claim?

[fua]

I think that post comes off as really insistent on ending the day early and voting out someone who claimed a PR before they have the chance to actually prove themselves. Beyond that you’ve really just been posting one-liners and arguing semantics with House.

[fua]

Ooooooh
Would 1 goon, 1 pr, and 1 traitor pr be balanced

That's my guess.

It would effectively make your role borderline negative utility.

This is where I'm at.

If people genuinely believe that we have a Vig that can only kill minimum zero/maximum one scum that otherwise only kills town PRs, why exactly is this slot still breathing if some people don't even believe the claim?

Questioning why a slot isn't dead =/= I want the slot.

Yes it does.

[fua]

Fua, do you really believe I'm the only player in this game who insisted we shoot redtea?

I feel like Three’s own claim that he didn’t want redtea to die is a walkback from this post after I said that he was the one pushing for redtea to die the most.

[fua]

don't tell him that was actually a pretty terrible take on osetr.

As it isn't true, I won't tell him that.

I feel like voting for someone on Day 1 because we won’t be able to rely on them at the end of the game

is

really flimsy reasoning, to be honest. I definitely agree that he deserved to be limmed if he wasn’t replaced because I don’t tolerate that behavior on this site, but that post from Three feels like he’s trying to justify his vote a little bit too much.

[fua]

I kind of want to let Dwlee prove himself? Osetr’s posts aren’t alignment indicative in hindsight because 90% of his posts were just trolling.

[fua]

My vote on Three is staying, sorry.

[fua]

Although if you’re going to actually vote me out, you should at least let me claim before the hammer.

[fua]

But apparently a random vote on someone seven hours into the game with flimsy justification makes me obvscum, so do what you will with that.

[fua]

So... rereading cookie, and I have concerns.

I'm going to claim. I'm an Informed Townie. I know there is a Bulletproof Mafia Traitor in the game. I think the quotes below are Redtea signalling to the rest of the mafia that they are said traitor, partly given it was a really weird out-on-a-limb connection to make in the context of the discussion to that point, and partly because there are very few reasons to make such an effort to hint that you are mafia-aligned, other than being the mafia traitor.

(Translator's Note: gay means mafia-aligned)

im gay

VOTE: redtea

I could be wrong, but there's nothing really lost by me claiming anyway as that's my only power.

1) Why would the mod give info not only about the existence of a traitor, but the fact they're bulletproof? What town utility comes from outing the fact the traitor is bulletproof?

cookie could have left the bulletproof bit out of his claim and let mafia sweat hitting their traitor at night, or think they're traitor was being protected if they did shoot them.

Mentioning the bulletproof bit could have easily been a message from traitor!cookie to his team.

i got some reads but will see if i am alive tomorrow to share them

Why would town hold off on posting reads after leading a wagon on what they felt was a solid chance at flipping red, knowing that it's probably their only chance to do so if scum flips?

Vc coming, redtea is currently e-1

I don't think cookie was worried about dying at all overnight.

VOTE: cool cookie

So you think Cookie is a bulletproof traitor trying to signal to his team, and that redtea is one of the other two scum fakeclaiming to get the heat off of him since such a thing would align with his own role? I can’t imagine one being scum and not the other.

[fua]

Actually. @Three I’m seriously suspicious of you, but I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here if you’re willing to do the same with me. It’s in both of our best interests to work on a compromise for today— in case you are town, then scum is obviously going to look to keep our wagons as the main focuses so that the spotlight isn’t turned on them. Both of us

do

give out a lot of content that could be useful to find each other later, so why don’t we let each other keep talking and try to reach a conclusion on something else?

TL;DR: You trust me and take your vote off me, I’ll trust you and take my vote off you.

[fua]

That makes sense. I’ll look over cookie’s ISO to see what I think.

[fua]

I don't really buy it. The mention of bulletproof would only be a signal if scum knew that the traitor was bulletproof, and normally traitor roles aren't known unless the scum team was informed of something like that. In FIA WRC the scum killed their traitor (t3 lol) because they didn't know what he had there, and I think it's safe to assume that they wouldn't know that information here either

No, I don’t think the first part is necessary for scum to find their traitor? House is right that the reveal that there’s a bulletproof traitor doesn’t have that much town utility to begin with, since it means that mafia hitting their traitor allows them to figure out that the traitor is in their party in the first place, and lets them know not to push them as opposed to not knowing how their target survived giving way to uncertainty.

[fua]

Informed townie actually isn’t that rare of a role here.

[fua]

don't tell him that was actually a pretty terrible take on osetr.

As it isn't true, I won't tell him that.

I feel like voting for someone on Day 1 because we won’t be able to rely on them at the end of the game

is

really flimsy reasoning, to be honest. I definitely agree that he deserved to be limmed if he wasn’t replaced because I don’t tolerate that behavior on this site, but that post from Three feels like he’s trying to justify his vote a little bit too much.

I mean that's just what policy limming is.

My vote on Three is staying, sorry.

Do you have anything to say about your points against Three I refuted?

I accept that I was wrong, but I still have my reservations regarding his status— although I’m not tunneled at all and am willing to turn my focus onto other people if he is as well. I know I’m town, so it’s up to him to move and I’ll follow suit.

[fua]

I don't really buy it. The mention of bulletproof would only be a signal if scum knew that the traitor was bulletproof, and normally traitor roles aren't known unless the scum team was informed of something like that. In FIA WRC the scum killed their traitor (t3 lol) because they didn't know what he had there, and I think it's safe to assume that they wouldn't know that information here either

No, I don’t think the first part is necessary for scum to find their traitor? House is right that the reveal that there’s a bulletproof traitor doesn’t have that much town utility to begin with, since it means that mafia hitting their traitor allows them to figure out that the traitor is in their party in the first place, and lets them know not to push them as opposed to not knowing how their target survived giving way to uncertainty.

I thought House was saying that bulletproof was a nod to scum which I don't understand how

My thought is that making the information that the traitor is bulletproof public helps mafia more than it helps town.

[fua]

Predicting the scum kill is a lot easier said than done.

[fua]

okay. I don't like fua's tone in recent posts, but I haven't had the chance to really sit down yet so I won't hop on the wagon for now.

You never like my tone…

[fua]

What.

[fua]

WHAT IS THIS BUG

Have you tried not pressing submit twenty times?

[fua]

That’s what someone who pressed it twenty times would say…

[fua]

I've ruled out that Fua is a koba alt cause koba would have locktowned me already

Who would you want to vote if I hypothetically switched off of Three? Are they the only person who pings you as scum?

[fua]

Although if you’re going to actually vote me out, you should at least let me claim before the hammer.

i-......
Wow this is scum.

No, just a misguided town.

[fua]

Although if you’re going to actually vote me out, you should at least let me claim before the hammer.

i-......
Wow this is scum.

Why?

Pointing out the EXTREMELY obvious as a means to fake content
I think.

I’ve been hammered before I can claim before! There may be lolhammerers about— you never know for sure. Be wary of putting me to E-1 if I’m not here, or at least give intent to do so so I can respond.

[fua]

T3 thinks I'm town for some reason tho so good luck with that

That was kinda the point.

Don't need luck to make a point.

You sure say a lot of things

He was trying to say that T3 is reading me as scum for that statement despite reading a person who makes similar neutral statements as town is hypocritical.

[fua]

I kind of want to let Dwlee prove himself? Osetr’s posts aren’t alignment indicative in hindsight because 90% of his posts were just trolling.

You said you legitimately thought Osetr was scum though.

I don’t think that anymore after context of him being banned from another site and a cursory reread.

[fua]

Also, part of my scumread was justification for my vote on him due to an inherent dislike of his conduct. The other part is me being biased in liking Dwlee and not wanting to scumread him.

[fua]

I kind of want to let Dwlee prove himself? Osetr’s posts aren’t alignment indicative in hindsight because 90% of his posts were just trolling.

You said you legitimately thought Osetr was scum though.

I don’t think that anymore after context of him being banned from another site and a cursory reread.

That doesn't make sense.

People like N_M can troll as scum. It’s part of their lifestyle. People said he was flailing because he was caught, I just followed the wave.

[fua]

fua, quit while you're ahead.

Understood. Will do, chief.

[fua]

Gonna wait for Three’s input on what I said, but otherwise I would be okay with a cookie wagon.

[fua]

UNVOTE:

[fua]

It’s true. This is like the treaty of Paris that ended the Revolutionary War, but at least 50% cuter.

[fua]

What if it’s just 2 PRs and the traitor? No goons abound.

[fua]

VOTE: Three
I think Jacket's opinions seem unsafe if he is scum

Remind me your reasoning for SRing Three again?

[fua]

What do the asterisks next to George and Zen’s names mean?

[fua]

Imo, readtea should shootsomeone n1 then tell us who he shot after deadline for n1 actions has passed. That way we can confirm his claim and also get rid of a potential scum.

You mean on D2? This is post is confusing.

[fua]

Also, please don’t use the word ‘lynch’. It’s not allowed here.

[fua]

Imo, readtea should shootsomeone n1 then tell us who he shot after deadline for n1 actions has passed. That way we can confirm his claim and also get rid of a potential scum.

You mean on D2? This is post is confusing.

I meant in the last 30 min before d2 begins, where night actions can't be changed by anyone. If he does that we can know who he shot and who scum shot. Basically a way for us to confirm he is a vig.

You can’t talk at night.

[fua]

Reading through your post it feels like the main reason you’re scumreading him is because he’s townreading you despite your meta? I don’t know your meta, so I’m not really able to see things the same way you are.

[fua]

Reading through your post it feels like the main reason you’re scumreading him is because he’s townreading you despite your meta? I don’t know your meta, so I’m not really able to see things the same way you are.

Otherwise, the things you mentioned alone don’t really make for a 100% compelling scum case yet when isolated, which is why I personally am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[fua]

Reading through your post it feels like the main reason you’re scumreading him is because he’s townreading you despite your meta? I don’t know your meta, so I’m not really able to see things the same way you are.

No, the main thing is the beginning of his ISO. I don't do meta, my point is that the townread on me for thinking I look scummy doesn't make much sense unless he is familiar with my playstyle

Is he familiar with your playstyle though?

[fua]

Imo, readtea should shootsomeone n1 then tell us who he shot after deadline for n1 actions has passed. That way we can confirm his claim and also get rid of a potential scum.

You mean on D2? This is post is confusing.

I meant in the last 30 min before d2 begins, where night actions can't be changed by anyone. If he does that we can know who he shot and who scum shot. Basically a way for us to confirm he is a vig.

You can’t talk at night.

Oh... Did not know this, usually play with Nighttalk allowed.

You’re fine, it comes with being new to the site.

I’m liking Zen for town currently, based on his posting thus far.

[fua]

Reading through your post it feels like the main reason you’re scumreading him is because he’s townreading you despite your meta? I don’t know your meta, so I’m not really able to see things the same way you are.

No, the main thing is the beginning of his ISO. I don't do meta, my point is that the townread on me for thinking I look scummy doesn't make much sense unless he is familiar with my playstyle

Is he familiar with your playstyle though?

I have never heard of three so... no

Oh yeah, then that makes more sense. I don’t think I can personally determine whether it’s just WIFOM or not, though. I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt and focus on more than just Three today so we can get info.

How is he associated with Jacket, by the way? I must have missed that.

[fua]

VOTE: Three
I think Jacket's opinions seem unsafe if he is scum

[fua]

Oh, so I just misunderstood, then. I thought you were referring to Three when you said ‘if he is scum’.

[fua]

STD IS TOWN

Ya think? Enlighten me

Meta

What parts of his meta explain his alignment here? Does scum StD not act this way?

[fua]

I feel like Dwlee’s vote was for meta reasons rather than just inactivity alone.

[fua]

If it's red, it's dead.

This. Yeah, we can endgame the traitor if we find the two scum, but why leave a mafia alive in the first place?

[fua]

Who are you neighbors with?

Why do you want to know?

I thought the answer was relatively obvious to begin with based on the context given.

[fua]

(Regarding who A50’s neighbor is, not why Dwlee wanted to know.)

[fua]

@Almost50 would you like me to post my reads list? It

may

contain a thing I think you wouldn't want scum to know (Hint, hint) as well as a "meta" read, as unreliable as those are.

[fua]

Also, most of my list is just regurgitating other reads.

[fua]

@Almost50 would you like me to post my reads list? It

may

contain a thing I think you wouldn't want scum to know (Hint, hint) as well as a "meta" read, as unreliable as those are.

If you think scum could benefit from it then don't.

Fair enough. Although it would help significantly narrow the PoE either way.

[fua]

The question is just whether the benefit to town would outweigh the benefit to scum. But if you really are bulletproof, you should be fine?

[fua]

Although all of this could be moot if scum already picked up on it.

[fua]

@Dwlee was it really necessary to ask who his partner was as far as setup speculation goes?

[fua]

If A50 doesn't mind, I'll post my reads as soon as Dwlee answers, since I think scum already gathered the information that I have anyways.

[fua]

Okay. Here's my thing right now. I feel like A50's post was actually pretty good as far as the actual list of people goes, all things considered. It contains a lot of things that I agree with as well as a few things that I can read deeper into to extrapolate some stuff (which I'll go into a bit of detail about here). I'll post my reads list with reasoning first.

Town:
Almost50 - TBA
T3 - TBA
redtea - Town until proven otherwise, whether it's a night shot or whatever we decide to do. He'll either be outed or confirmed depending on what happens there.
Zen - I think his post about people calling out their actions before D2 is actually very town-indicative? It could be different based on his other site's meta, but I feel like he's actively trying to solve the game here.

Townlean:
House - No reason to think otherwise. Solid progression behind his reads and looks from angles that other people hadn't considered yet. I feel comfortable with trusting him for now.
HawaiianPizza - I kind of like his posting? He could easily be moved into neutral if he continues playing on the passive end of things, but he's fine right now even if I don't really know his meta.

Neutral:
StD - Strikes me as really passive. Not sure how to follow up on this beyond prodding him for responses to certain lines of questioning in the future.
GeorgeBailey - I don't know his playstyle and I'm willing to give him some leeway here, I guess?

Scumlean:
Dwlee - Him trying to figure out who A50's partner is by asking directly who it is kind of sounds like rolefishing, especially since A50 claimed bulletproof? His 'kick' to A50 sounds kind of flimsy based on what A50 said as well (and how he just replaced in), but it's not enough for me to really fully scumread him. I don't think he should be limmed today unless we can't compromise, but still.
Three - I think that he has scummy behavior as far as his posting patterns go? He and Dwlee don't have much chance of being a team together at the very least, so if one of them is scum then the other is probably aligned with the town.

Scum:
Coolcookie - I see the points that House and A50 brought up against him and I'm inclined to agree here. It's weird that he conveniently 'forgot' to post certain tidbits of information when he directly claimed informed townie. Who claims informed townie without giving out everything they've been told? It's really off to me and I don't like it. He's probably either a mafia informed of traitor or the traitor himself.
Jacket - Just because he's unhelpful and doesn't explain things doesn't mean that I'm obligated to townread him.

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Anyway, I think that A50 is neighbors with T3. He's got little progression on him and hasn't really posted any actual reads on his behavior like he did with the others on the top of his list, yet he puts him in the top town section anyways despite their lack of interaction. If I'm reading the room correctly, A50 isn't the biggest fan of giving away associates as scum (and thus is likely not scum here through his association with T3), but this feels like a slip that scum would pick up on and take advantage of so I'm bringing it to light. I feel like both T3 and A50 are locktown at the moment and definitely shouldn't be elimmed unless we have some sort of investigative role check them out down the line.

VOTE: Coolcookie

Not a fan of their content, for reasons I stated earlier. If they are scum then redtea is also locktown for me.

[fua]

Ack. Sorry for mixing up the pronouns, Cookie. I'll try to keep them in mind in the future, I just forgot in the moment.

[fua]

The case for Three being scum based only on his start of the game seems pretty flimsy if there's no evidence past that beyond meta knowledge, so if there's nothing after then I don't think he should be today's lim.

[fua]

Dwlee - [Them] trying to figure out who A50's partner is by asking directly who it is kind of sounds like rolefishing, especially since A50 claimed bulletproof? [Their] 'kick' to A50 sounds kind of flimsy based on what A50 said as well (and how he just replaced in), but it's not enough for me to really fully scumread [them]. I don't think [they] should be limmed today unless we can't compromise, but still.

But yea I like to give inactive slots a kick by voting them, a50 started thread spewing and even if it wasn't directly in reaction to my vote sometimes getting votes does get people to start giving out content

You literally gave him a kick for being inactive five hours after he replaced in.

[fua]

Beginning of ISO: doesn't say much. Doesn't interact much. First time involved in actual conversation happens to be when the mech convo with the traitor stuff comes up. Since then, not much to impress me except maybe the truce thing from y'all but I feel like I shouldn't put a ton of stock into it. The townread on me kinda feels like he knows it's true which is why he believes it cause Occam's is just scummy -> scum and I don't think he has played with me to know my playstyle just kinda is this. I think people new to my playstyle tend to scumread me naturally so it's kind of weird for him to actually townread me for thinking I look scummy

Pretty sure this is Dwlee99 who posted this.

Read what I wrote and read what you wrote again?

What are the differences between what you two wrote, then?

[fua]

Dearest felicitations!

[fua]

T3 is almost certainly clear. Why do you group redtea with cookie?

[fua]

If you think A50 is town then T3 should be town too.

[fua]

I wish Koba was here cause they could tell me if I should step back from this push

I think you should look at the bigger picture here.

Who do you think Three is scum with?

[fua]

I wish Koba was here cause they could tell me if I should step back from this push

I think you should look at the bigger picture here.

Who do you think Three is scum with?

I haven't seen anything that strikes me as partnery so I'm not sure right now. I could do an ISO later and see if anything strikes me as SvS though

Are there any other people that could be pinned as associated with one another at the moment? Who are your top three scumreads besides him and why?

[fua]

Also, what's your read on HawaiianPizza?

[fua]

Can someone explain the case on Zenman?

[fua]

Almost50
TheZenMan
Three
GeorgeBailey
fua
Jacket

@fua

Bonus points if you guess the two people I crossed off only cause it felt right

Updated:
TheZenMan
Three
GeorgeBailey
fua?
Jacket
redtea? (potentially self-resolving so not a D1 lim but back in the Poe)

I feel good with this list. I don't feel strongly on scum vibes from any of these but just think the people outside this list are town

Pedit: I got town pings but don't remember why

It’s weird how you said the kick was to get A50 to be active and yet he was your top scumread two hours into the game before he could realistically even read all of what happened. I know we went over this already anyways, but it feels like the top list was just inactives plus Three and Jacket.

[fua]

VOTE: Dwlee99

I’m fine with changing my vote to this. (I also don’t know how many votes Cookie has and don’t really want to risk a surprise hammer.)

Anyways, I feel like you haven’t really been actively scumhunting so much as poking and prodding things without really engaging beyond an argument with Three about why you scumread him. You haven’t introduced any real new concepts or thoughts into the game itself and are mostly going after the easy targets instead of trying to pin down associatives and a potential team. It feels like you’re a scum who’s trying to look like they’re contributing without actually doing so.

[fua]

Scumhunting is asking questions to try and solve the game, which your interjections don’t feel like they’ve been doing at all. There’s a difference between Scum hunting and scumhunting.

[fua]

I don’t know how you play the game.

[fua]

Hark.

[fua]

PoE:
A50/T3
Redtea
House (He should probably be checked tonight by an investigative.)
Three (If Dwlee is scum.)
Pizza
Zenman/StD
Cookie/George
Jacket
Three (If Dwlee isn’t mafia.)
Dwlee

[fua]

Best case scenario is if Dwlee is scum and House is town. Game is solved from there.

[fua]

Bottom 7 are the PoE then. I’m not going to scumread House and Pizza right now and A50/T3/Redtea are all locktown at the moment as far as I’m concerned.

[fua]

maybe it is a POE can't argue that it doesn't have all the scum in it

So you townread me?

[fua]

Yes, because I think they're neighbors.

[fua]

[fua]

Alright. If we can’t settle on a vote, I guess I’m down for a consensus GeorgeBailey lim.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Stop lurking and start contributing or get out of the limpool.

[fua]

Such as…?

[fua]

Such as…?

T3 and Hawaiian. I don't understand why so many people are townreading Hawaiian and it feels like I'm missing something here.

What’s your list without him?

[fua]

T3 is almost certainly clear. Why do you group redtea with cookie?

If you think A50 is town then T3 should be town too.

What, because you assume they're in a neighborhood together and Almost50 trusts T3? That's absolutely not clearing.

Yes it is.

[fua]

What is clearing if not making random justifications in the hopes that you come off as looking like you’re getting something done?

[fua]

oops... look, i get it, there are "better" options on the menu

fine

i bet most of you haven't even tasted me tho

People are really complaining about Hawaiian Pizza when there are people out there who don’t put any toppings or cheese on their pizza, while some even put

goat cheese

on theirs.

Pineapple is literally just a fruit. It’s fine on pizza. People should stop making a big deal about it and I will die on this hill.

[fua]

pineapple on pizza ruins the texture

[fua]

Big brain idea. Zenman and Three partners.

[fua]

(george stuff)

Vote Count 1.02

redtea (6):

HawaiianPizza, cool cookie, House, redtea, Three, fua

(E-1)

So just one scumread and the other are all null/town? No one sees anything suspicious about this? The guy he goes for is also someone already scumreading him, so he loses nothing by putting me at the bottom there. I feel George is trying to stay on as many peoples good sides as possible.

I do have my vote there, STD did as well but he unvoted. I doubt it's happening at this point.

I don't know what that puts me at, but I assume we're wagoning me despite there being no legitimate case at this point. Real fun wasting my week on this game just to get miseliminated but whatever.

I'm VT.

alas that's often the way in mafia - the games where you put most effort in are the ones you get limmed early. that said, maybe a slightly premature claim at like 4 votes with emotional appeal to boot.

Yeah yeah AtE whatever, getting annoyed at getting eliminated Day 1 when you effort is NAI either way. I genuinely thought I was closer than E-3 though since last I checked I had three votes and I thought I saw three more come my way.

I would offer to just get shot by redtea to prove I'm VT, but I understand it could just mean I'm the BP Traitor, and even though I think redtea is telling the truth I understand that not everyone believes them either.

I think you are getting a bit too emotionally invested in the game. Remember it's just a game at the end of the day.

I looked for a bit but still didn't see a case made on you. Your reaction however for me reads as town.

Partners?

[fua]

wait i don't think i tr Almost50

VOTE: almost50

Why not?

[fua]

Everyone here has spent a week on the game (Except George), so it’s not even that good of AtE.

[fua]

I'm having a hard time finding how to piece this together in a way that makes sense to other people but I think [t3, dwlee, fua] is a solid poe
maybe through dragons if there if one Really wants

Literally none of this PoE is scum.

[fua]

man. I don't know about the fact that t3 stayed so long on fua. But it's also weird that

t3 has mentioned and talked to fua way more than fua has mentioned/talked to t3

, which reminds me of how hesitant i was last scum game (and maybe before then too) about talking with my scumbuddies, especially n the beginning of the game. Some other things about fua were reminding me about my own scumplay too, the other day.

…Excuse me? What?

[fua]

This game has had way too few votecounts. I want to vote Zenman because his last posts seem incredibly scummy but I have no idea what he’s at.

[fua]

read the rest sweetie

I’ve literally been defending T3 since A50 claimed because I think he’s A50’s partner. The statement I bolded doesn’t make sense to me at all because it’s not true.

[fua]

i l i t e r a l l y ctrl-f'd and then reviewed the posts with no quotes to check the context/who they were directed at if anyone

Then how in the world did you come to the conclusion you did?

[fua]

How am I averse to mentioning T3 when I’m white knighting for him every time someone scumreads him?

[fua]

which reminds me of how hesitant i was last scum game (and maybe before then too) about talking with my scumbuddies,

especially n the beginning of the game

just because you have been posting more about him recently doesn't mean that, overall, there is much posting of him in your iso, despite the amount he has talked to and about you.

You’re tunneled. I’m not going to argue this.

[fua]

We have 24 hours until the deadline.

I think Zenman’s reaction to the suspicion placed upon him is really shady on top of trying to pin the blame on an easy target like George (who is a mostly passive and easy ‘lim’ anyways). I feel like if he flips scum then that’ll be telling regarding the alignments of multiple people— specifically George, Three, and Cookie.

VOTE: Zenman

[fua]

Also, I feel like scum George wouldn’t think to fake struggling on where to place people. That could just be me, though.

[fua]

Oh, that makes sense. UNVOTE:

[fua]

I'm a 2-shot even night braindead organ donor jetsetting angry creditor with 3 wishes

Your organs are

mine

. Hand them over.

Anyway, intent to put T3 to E-1 if he doesn’t fully claim.

[fua]

I'm a 2-shot even night braindead organ donor jetsetting angry creditor with 3 wishes

Your organs are

mine

. Hand them over.

Anyway, intent to put T3 to E-1 if he doesn’t fully claim.

Will do this in about 2 hours since deadline is in 16.

[fua]

VOTE: George

Worst comes to worst we remove a place for scum to hide and don’t have to deal with him being mislimmed later.

[fua]

I think you should give me a chance to prove myself by flipping someone else. I don't want to claim unless I absolutely have to.

[fua]

I don't know why we're voting for one of the biggest content posters in the game instead of someone who barely interacts with people. Why not investigate someone who actually plays?

[fua]

I would literally rather be miselimmed than for us to not eliminate anyone. We need to get together on

someone

.

[fua]

George this really did happen to you twice in a row

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[fua]

Good work. Props to scum for pulling this off!

Note to self: Never speculate about game setups.

[fua]

What does JOAT mean?