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[Nancy Drew 39]

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[Nancy Drew 39]

I have only played one game with Imaginality where he was town in OMB but not sure why you sr him?

193 - says nothing
197 - seems forced
487 - says nothing
503 - could be either alignment
670 - could be shade on a townie (yes i know i have SK as scum) there's no follow through
671 - says nothing
717 - says nothing
843 - could be either alignment
846 - could be scum jumping on the wagon, could be town seeing a problem with gypyx sure. this post puts some doubt into my read.
847 - throws shade around, but mostly says nothing

mostly gut at this point tbh

Having read no Imaginality scumgames, he still doesn’t sound much different from OMB though. I have some concern about Gypyx wagon and I wonder if scum could be on it. If Brain is scum and Gypyx town, that VC will be interesting to look at later.

~I

[Nancy Drew 39]

Reminder to myself and to anyone rereading the game in like 3 game days that chowchow and TIL are never red together.

We are not buddies with anyone and I strongly doubt chowchow is either. What I don’t understand is why you’re even making this post. I thought you had them as strong town?

~I

I frequently leave little notes for myself for when I reread the thread and if I end up doing so on d3 or 4 if either of you is flipped I want to look back on this. Did you know that not every time someone mentions your name needs to be responded to? You can just ignore things sometimes.

Thanks for the advice but I make my own decisions wrt to that.

~I

[Nancy Drew 39]

Maybe their fakeclaim is a protective

Do you have anything better to do than take pot shots every time I post

Didn't you try to derail woolax yesterday lmao

What? When did i take a potshot on you before that?

And no I led the Woolax wagon

Whilst you probably helped I don’t think you can take sole credit for it

I’m the first vote on Woolax.

~I

[Nancy Drew 39]

Spoiler: this is kinmedai

Yum, I’m going to eat my dinner now.

[Nancy Drew 39]

can someone explain why TIL is town, because they havent receieved much pressure thus far and I wanna know what the deal is with that slot - i dont wanna hear meta arguments because nancy is good enough to break meta when needed.

just tinfoiling, but i wanna be thorough.

Sorry to disappoint you but
Meta

meta is too vague - something about the meta matters.

mind you i have not really read nancy's ISO, I just am wary that auro is dodging this game because i know he hates playing scum.

He’s not and no. Read CoD, he was barely present in that too.

Unless this is some wild gambit to protect us from the NK, you could choose to protect us or not but until you do your research and due diligence, I’m not going to continue to engage.

Do you agree on T3? Yay or neigh and why, is all I literally care about discussing.

[Nancy Drew 39]

This is a Fucking 1v1

Voting for anyone but me or wisdom is tantamount to hard claiming scum

Me today

His bitch ass tomorrow

I have a hard guilty on Dwelee, it would be gamethrowing to vote anywhere else.

~I

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well I tried to get some eyes there but some people decided they only want to flip Dwlee and not give the chance for people to look elsewhere, so

We could have run wisdom up and made him answer my easy question, but…

We have a guity on them, not on Wisdom.

~I

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Milo
Ultimately for me it all goes back to the fact that Pooky vigged a teammate when there's absolutely nothing to suggest that he would do this as scum
And the mods would have had to put in a scum vig role paired with town
And Milo's ISO before today was truly horrific
And I don't believe imaginality bussed his entire team
And the AtE from Milo all day today feels so wrong

PLEASE DON'T HURT ME

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nancy Drew 39]

Wisdom had a guilty when he was limmed though, oof

Notty, had you not hammered Wisdom, we would have won this. Never never lim someone before they claim.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well...
If notty didn’t quick hammer, the game never reaches this stage

+1

That hammer cost us the game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Sorry Notty. I have a feeling if it was just you, town would’ve won. In Elo since you were doing a much better job arguing for scum pooky.

-Bell

I can’t believe that people ignored Wheme’s mech guilty. *smdh*

[Nancy Drew 39]

my self hammer was the only way to get either math or cakez 5o even remotely consider pooky because by that point the pocket was extemely deep


There was no way to convince cakez this game milo and the ignored mech case is proof of it

Well, it obviously didn’t work, you neeed to stay in the game because people ignore dead townies.

[Nancy Drew 39]

cakez i dont want to beat u up cause i love u.
and im not going to say "ITS OBVIOUS"
but i don't think u took in the factor that:
1) u were confirmed town and alive to the end
2) mastina was killed instead of you
hard enough in ur assessment in order to actually do a reset for beginning of day.

It seemed like from my perspective in dead thread u were always going for milo here.

Anyways loved playing with u bud

+1

Mastina dying over Cakez should have sealed it for you because why does Milo kill Mastina > confitown?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Leave notty alone I guarantee someone else would have done it if he didn't

That entire wagon was bad and I had an inno on Wisdom but he would have already been flash wagoned by the time I even knew that day had even started, had I not died obviously.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Sure blame me I don’t care I shouldn’t have joined this game anyways

you and bell fought so damn hard I was having like nightmares about this game. <3 ya'all

Had I been in this game, you would have been hammered at daystart. No fucking way does Milo ever kill Mastina here > conftown Cakez. You were confiscum like FL was in the tm game for killing Ramicius.

[Nancy Drew 39]

STILL in this game

[Nancy Drew 39]

Sure blame me I don’t care I shouldn’t have joined this game anyways

you and bell fought so damn hard I was having like nightmares about this game. <3 ya'all

Had I been in this game, you would have been hammered at daystart. No fucking way does Milo ever kill Mastina here > conftown Cakez. You were confiscum like FL was in the tm game for killing Ramicius.

I am glad you were not alive at the end to get me :3

I remember you saying in our discord team pt: Why does Norwee put himself through such needless suffering by killing Ram when he could have an easy win by killing Akarin (the confitown in that game)?

Bell was painfully obvtown at elo. Scum!him would have been choking.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nah they can blame me if they want

I made one mistake. It happens. There’s more people who fucked up than me!

Honestly I think you figuring out the mech behind the N3 nightkill / Perish Song was a real stroke of genius.

Nobody in the dead PT figured his out until Imaginality basically outted it.

I was very surprised you could remember something from that far back and put it together like that.

Marashu did in our discord pt.

[Nancy Drew 39]

(Well, except for the Wisdom lim. There's no disappointment there, only rage.)

Btw some extra context that might help you understand why I was so infuriated with that:

I got the D5 start PM.

I was reading, and logged in to read while online.

The game thread was

open

when I logged in to read the game.

You may note I did not actually get to post on D5.

But I was around while the thread was open on D5.

You know why that happened?

Because I was reading the thread at the time the lock happened.

The thread was literally open, I saw a Wisdom vote, hit 'quote' on it to try and remind folks for why Wisdom was town...
...And got 'you cannot post in a locked thread'.
I wondered if the mods had locked the thread due to mod error, a need for a replacement, a ban, etc. Because why else would the thread be locked so soon after D5 began and when I haven't even gotten the chance to post?

...And then I kept reading.

And reading.

And saw the posts pile up doing the thing I attempted to press the quote button and write a post to stop.

I was literally

less than one hour

late to stopping the Wisdom mislim.

If I had gotten the chance to post, which I was

less than one hour too late to do

, you all would've gotten me to remind you of why Wisdom was town and should be the last possible player to eliminate.

Literally if people had waited so much as ~45 minutes, the Wisdom hammer doesn't go through.

And with the Wisdom hammer not going through, the game ends on D5 once he comes in and claims.

...You can understand, now, why my reaction was as strong as it was on D6, yes?

(I tend to take VERY poorly to eliminations being pushed through when I am not around. Especially when they are on town. ESPECIALLY when I am only a couple of hours away from being around. ESPECIALLY if I have strong reason to believe the slot is town.)

And I had a literal inno on Wisdom but even had I not died, i still would have been too late because I received the news of both our death and Wisdom’s simultaneously.

[Nancy Drew 39]

(Well, except for the Wisdom lim. There's no disappointment there, only rage.)

Btw some extra context that might help you understand why I was so infuriated with that:

I got the D5 start PM.

I was reading, and logged in to read while online.

The game thread was

open

when I logged in to read the game.

You may note I did not actually get to post on D5.

But I was around while the thread was open on D5.

You know why that happened?

Because I was reading the thread at the time the lock happened.

The thread was literally open, I saw a Wisdom vote, hit 'quote' on it to try and remind folks for why Wisdom was town...
...And got 'you cannot post in a locked thread'.
I wondered if the mods had locked the thread due to mod error, a need for a replacement, a ban, etc. Because why else would the thread be locked so soon after D5 began and when I haven't even gotten the chance to post?

...And then I kept reading.

And reading.

And saw the posts pile up doing the thing I attempted to press the quote button and write a post to stop.

I was literally

less than one hour

late to stopping the Wisdom mislim.

If I had gotten the chance to post, which I was

less than one hour too late to do

, you all would've gotten me to remind you of why Wisdom was town and should be the last possible player to eliminate.

Literally if people had waited so much as ~45 minutes, the Wisdom hammer doesn't go through.

And with the Wisdom hammer not going through, the game ends on D5 once he comes in and claims.

...You can understand, now, why my reaction was as strong as it was on D6, yes?

(I tend to take VERY poorly to eliminations being pushed through when I am not around. Especially when they are on town. ESPECIALLY when I am only a couple of hours away from being around. ESPECIALLY if I have strong reason to believe the slot is town.)

(for extra context, I had rushed straight home from work in order to come directly to the game to post. D5 started while I was at work, at 6 pm. I was busy with work, so I either couldn't check the thread or checked it and didn't see an issue because Wisdom votes hadn't happened yet. It wasn't until page 186 that the Wisdom votes started to pile on. This was the page I was reading when I tried to quote a post and found the thread locked. The hammer came through as I was finishing closing up and about to start my drive home, and I arrived home at about 8:30. When the hammer came in at 7:39. There was no Wisdom wagon until 6:30. Meaning that the wagon, basically start to finish, took one hour. One hour, that I was busy in.)

. Wow, just wow, one freaking hour. W I L D

[Nancy Drew 39]

VC 5.FINAL

Wisdom (7) HAMMER:

Malakittens, SirCakez, DkKoba, chowchow, MathBlade, Milobird, honorary-Gamma Emerald

Also, I just want to put it on the record--
NEVER FORGET.

Do more than just take it to heart:
Burn this game into your very souls.

For literally EVERY game you EVER play in the future.

NEVER. FORGET.

Always. ALWAYS. Remember this game, and remember the outcome of it. And remember one thing about it:

It ended in a scum win on D10.

When it would've ended on D5 in a town win, by allowing for the proper due process that you by default give in 99% of your games. And there's a reason you give that due process in 99% of your games. There's a reason that you allow for players to claim before you ramrod an elimination through on them.

And this game is why.

So NEVER FORGET.

Whenever you have a thought of "we don't need to wait". Remember what not waiting did to this game.
Whenever you have a thought of "we can end the game right now". Remember where that thought led this game.
Whenever you have a thought of "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS". Remember where that bloodlust got you this game.
Whenever you are tempted to lolhammer. Remember what lolhammering cost us in this game. (Literally everything.)
Whenever you have a thought of "we don't need to wait for a claim". Remember what waiting for a claim would've given you this game, and what not waiting cost you this game.

Whenever you see a player suggest any of the above. Point them to this game, and remember, remind them, of why due process exists.
Whenever you see a lack of caution, where caution is being thrown to the wind: intervene, remembering this game, and what throwing caution to the wind resulted in.

I do not fault players for having made this mistake for the first time in their mafiascum careers. It happens to everyone at least once at some point. They get arrogant, they get ahead of themselves, they think that they can just sweep the scum up and that they've got the game on wrap, so the normal rules need not apply.

So I do not fault the voters for having made the mistake in this game.

But make no mistake:
I WILL fault you for it in every. future. game. You and I ever play in.

And so should YOU.

You should not allow any of you seven to repeat the mistake made in this game.

Because, again:
NEVER. FORGET.

I'm dead serious: burn the outcome of this game, scum win on D10, into your soul. And remember. Always remember. Why that happened. It's not your fault. But it's a reminder that in the future if you repeat the mistake, it WILL be your fault. So never let it be your fault in the future, by never forgetting.

+1

I agree although I once correctly quickhammered scum because I was like 99.99999% sure and I was right but I never do that unless I know pretty much beyond a shadow of a doubt that I’m not wrong.

[Nancy Drew 39]

there's no way I'm going to get away with this

but Mastina's like never going to fall for any of my bullshit so what choice do I really have

<3 you Mastina <3

You seriously shouldn’t have.

[Nancy Drew 39]

wow so many redactions in that thread....

ALSO POOKY U ACTUALLY SAID U WANTED ME DEAD!!

1 minute: why we killing my homeboy fire
next minute: i actually want fb dead

U DIRTY SCUM BEAR

oops

i knew i forgot to redact something .... >.<

Yeah wtf’s up with all of those redactions?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I’m happy I jailed pooky.

Caught ya

I think anyone who understood the mech in this game, could have mech guiltied Pooky based off of this. That’s actually what happened in dead thread.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i mean it only happened in the dead thread because my scum partner told you all about it lol

My point being, anyone really good at mech could have probably figured this out from the flips.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i mean it only happened in the dead thread because my scum partner told you all about it lol

My point being, anyone really good at mech could have probably figured this out from the flips.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i mean also anyone who scumread pooky thought it was a roleblocked kill anyways lol

Well whenever you have a roleblocked no kill. 4 possibilities exist: A) scum no killed B) jk’d player was the saved NK target C) jk’d player was the blocked killer D) some other explanation such as kill target being protected

A) extremely unlikely in this particular context B) We know that is false because Wheme was also watcher and nobody visited Pooky C) the possibility that could have been proven by mech: perish song etc. D) astute mech analysis would have debunked this.

For me, Bell was bleeding obvtown in elo, Pooky majorly relied on AtE as oposed to actual casing - what town!him did in micro and of course the grand slam daddy: NK of unconfirmed town > confitown. And Occams razor: scum!Milo never kills Mastina > Cakez here. Scum doesn’t wifom like this in elo ever, it’s just unnecessary risk taking when there’s absolutely no logical reason to do this.